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Giants' trade proposal for Deshaun Watson by ESPN

Stan in LA : 1/27/2021 1:36 pm
From ESPN (along with 16 other trade proposals)
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17 Deshaun Watson trade proposals, ranked from least likely to most likely to happen in the 2021 NFL offseason

#12) New York Giants

Giants send: 11th overall pick in 2021, 2022 first-round pick, 2023 first-round pick, QB Daniel Jones
Texans send: 2023 fourth-round pick, QB Deshaun Watson

Jones showed virtually no growth in his second season, as his numbers stagnated or declined across the board. He missed two-plus games with injuries and led the league in fumbles for the second consecutive season. The best arguments that he's an NFL-caliber starting quarterback consist of his frame and the fact that at least one team thought he was worth the sixth overall pick in the 2019 draft. I'm not sure anybody is higher on Jones than the guy who would be trading him away, Giants general manager Dave Gettleman.

Jones is still young enough to improve, but he hasn't been good enough for the Texans to plan their future around him, which leaves the Giants in a bind. Would they be willing to send three first-rounders and Jones to get a deal done? And after seeing one former Pats coach sink his franchise, would Watson want to go play for another Bill Belichick disciple in Joe Judge?

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RE: RE: RE: RE: Dan Orlovsky just said  
bw in dc : 1/29/2021 2:36 pm : link
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I don't think it's about Jones sucking, I think it's more about HOU wanting to increase their chances of getting a franchise QB. It would be enormously risky to assume that Jones is going to be that guy. Now, outside of Lawrence, anyone they draft is going to be a question mark as well, but I think they would have a hard time selling Jones to their fans as Watson's replacement.

I still think Watson stays in HOU, and I would guess that their HC hire was one step to mend fences.


What may help mending the fence, actually, is the hiring of Pep Hamilton as the QB coach for the Texans. On the heels of the development of Herbert, and being a minority, may at least give Watson a reason to have a conversation with the new staff...
RE: RE: RE: RE: Dan Orlovsky just said  
dpinzow : 1/29/2021 2:39 pm : link
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In comment 15137901 UConn4523 said:


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For sure. I know why people want to discount Jones, I completely understand. But I don’t subscribe to everyone outside of the organization thinking he sucks, I just don’t. Too many questionable QBs have gone on to success elsewhere or netted a decent or even very good haul in trades. Maybe just maybe the situation here isn’t conducive to nurturing a QB with holes in his game. Maybe just maybe there’s better fits for him.



I don't think it's about Jones sucking, I think it's more about HOU wanting to increase their chances of getting a franchise QB. It would be enormously risky to assume that Jones is going to be that guy. Now, outside of Lawrence, anyone they draft is going to be a question mark as well, but I think they would have a hard time selling Jones to their fans as Watson's replacement.

I still think Watson stays in HOU, and I would guess that their HC hire was one step to mend fences.


I think ESPN is also driving a lot of the conversation here regarding Watson asking for a trade and giving Watson more power than he has. Watson is under contract until 2025 and the Texans can dare him to sit out a season if they so choose. If Watson goes through with the threat to sit out the 2021 season then they will have to trade him, but Houston still has cards to play for at least another year. It's not like Watson is out of contract. They just signed him to a deal last year.
I'm betting  
bc4life : 1/31/2021 10:07 am : link
Watson stays put
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bw in dc : 1/31/2021 10:35 am : link
In comment 15139536 bc4life said:
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Watson stays put


It's going to be a fascinating situation. An argument can be made his market value went up even higher with the Stafford deal.

Watson is in complete shut down mode with the Texans. I don't think the relationship is reparable and I expect things to get even messier...
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