Dude choked out his girlfriend because she allegedly wouldn't bow to him. After he choked her out, she woke up and he said to her, "You're still alive?" while he sipped on his smoothie.
This dude is batshit nuts.
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Mental health condition? Maybe Wheeler is just a thug.
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its your responsibility to follow your med regimen. To do otherwise is reckless and irresponsible. IMO bipolar d/o is over-diagnosed, but legit true-blue bipolar can be a scary thing.
Mental health condition? Maybe Wheeler is just a thug.
Helps to read the story before opining, makes one sound less foolish:
“The Seahawks lineman had been taking medication for bipolar disorder, but recently stopped taking it, the police report shows.“
The man thought he murdered his girlfriend and went back to finish his dinner. That's not a simple, oh well he was off his medicine. There are deeper issues at work with him.
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In comment 15136433 j_rud said:
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its your responsibility to follow your med regimen. To do otherwise is reckless and irresponsible. IMO bipolar d/o is over-diagnosed, but legit true-blue bipolar can be a scary thing.
Mental health condition? Maybe Wheeler is just a thug.
Helps to read the story before opining, makes one sound less foolish:
“The Seahawks lineman had been taking medication for bipolar disorder, but recently stopped taking it, the police report shows.“
Pretty stupid of you to think going off meds is a legitimate excuse for this. Plenty of people stop taking these medications and don't commit attempted murder.
The man thought he murdered his girlfriend and went back to finish his dinner. That's not a simple, oh well he was off his medicine. There are deeper issues at work with him.
No offense but this is such an ignorant comment. Do you know people who are bipolar? If you understood the disorder and how it works then you'd understand what is possible. If you are trying to be rational with trying to understand the disorder then you'll never understand it.
I have had multiple experiences with people who are bipolar. One used to smoke weed all the time. The THC blocks the medication from working or at least that is what I was told in the 90s. This kid beat the shit out of his sister for hiding her money so he wouldn't steal it. When I confronted him he came after me with an ice pick. I wanted to beat the livinh shit out of him for what he did but all I did was take him down and get the ice pick from him.
This same person not too long later was told to mow the lawn. He didn't want to so he went out back and poured gasoline on himself. He screamed for his dad so his dad could watch. His dad was yelling at him to take a shower right away to get the gas off his body. The kid took out a lighter and lit himself on fire.
This is a very scary disorder. That is just one person I knew like that.
CTE is a real thing. From the kids to the pros. People forget that.
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That these people can't be helped without their medicine. Well that's not true. There are many people who go off their bipolar medication (or any other mental health medication) and they don't respond by strangling their wife or girlfriend unconscious to the point where they think she is dead. This is being used as a rationalization for his actions when it shouldn't be.
The man thought he murdered his girlfriend and went back to finish his dinner. That's not a simple, oh well he was off his medicine. There are deeper issues at work with him.
No offense but this is such an ignorant comment. Do you know people who are bipolar? If you understood the disorder and how it works then you'd understand what is possible. If you are trying to be rational with trying to understand the disorder then you'll never understand it.
I have had multiple experiences with people who are bipolar. One used to smoke weed all the time. The THC blocks the medication from working or at least that is what I was told in the 90s. This kid beat the shit out of his sister for hiding her money so he wouldn't steal it. When I confronted him he came after me with an ice pick. I wanted to beat the livinh shit out of him for what he did but all I did was take him down and get the ice pick from him.
This same person not too long later was told to mow the lawn. He didn't want to so he went out back and poured gasoline on himself. He screamed for his dad so his dad could watch. His dad was yelling at him to take a shower right away to get the gas off his body. The kid took out a lighter and lit himself on fire.
This is a very scary disorder. That is just one person I knew like that.
I have bipolar disorder. You think I'm a scary person too?
CTE is a real thing. From the kids to the pros. People forget that.
CTE?? The guy admittedly has bi-polar disorder. What the fuck does CTE have to do with this??
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In comment 15136601 moespree said:
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That these people can't be helped without their medicine. Well that's not true. There are many people who go off their bipolar medication (or any other mental health medication) and they don't respond by strangling their wife or girlfriend unconscious to the point where they think she is dead. This is being used as a rationalization for his actions when it shouldn't be.
The man thought he murdered his girlfriend and went back to finish his dinner. That's not a simple, oh well he was off his medicine. There are deeper issues at work with him.
No offense but this is such an ignorant comment. Do you know people who are bipolar? If you understood the disorder and how it works then you'd understand what is possible. If you are trying to be rational with trying to understand the disorder then you'll never understand it.
I have had multiple experiences with people who are bipolar. One used to smoke weed all the time. The THC blocks the medication from working or at least that is what I was told in the 90s. This kid beat the shit out of his sister for hiding her money so he wouldn't steal it. When I confronted him he came after me with an ice pick. I wanted to beat the livinh shit out of him for what he did but all I did was take him down and get the ice pick from him.
This same person not too long later was told to mow the lawn. He didn't want to so he went out back and poured gasoline on himself. He screamed for his dad so his dad could watch. His dad was yelling at him to take a shower right away to get the gas off his body. The kid took out a lighter and lit himself on fire.
This is a very scary disorder. That is just one person I knew like that.
I have bipolar disorder. You think I'm a scary person too?
Did I say that? No. I said the disorder is scary. I have people I know in my life who have the disorder.
Bipolar disorder is closer to schizophrenia than psychopathy. But you're the expert...
Bipolar disorder is closer to schizophrenia than psychopathy. But you're the expert...
Adam, not sure why you are taking offense. I never said all people with bipolar are scary or however you want to take it. Violence to others or him/herself is not uncommon if left untreated for a prolonged period of time. Does this mean everyone has the same types of reactions? Of course not. It is just more likely if left untreated.
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That these people can't be helped without their medicine. Well that's not true. There are many people who go off their bipolar medication (or any other mental health medication) and they don't respond by strangling their wife or girlfriend unconscious to the point where they think she is dead. This is being used as a rationalization for his actions when it shouldn't be.
The man thought he murdered his girlfriend and went back to finish his dinner. That's not a simple, oh well he was off his medicine. There are deeper issues at work with him.
No offense but this is such an ignorant comment. Do you know people who are bipolar? If you understood the disorder and how it works then you'd understand what is possible. If you are trying to be rational with trying to understand the disorder then you'll never understand it.
I have had multiple experiences with people who are bipolar. One used to smoke weed all the time. The THC blocks the medication from working or at least that is what I was told in the 90s. This kid beat the shit out of his sister for hiding her money so he wouldn't steal it. When I confronted him he came after me with an ice pick. I wanted to beat the livinh shit out of him for what he did but all I did was take him down and get the ice pick from him.
This same person not too long later was told to mow the lawn. He didn't want to so he went out back and poured gasoline on himself. He screamed for his dad so his dad could watch. His dad was yelling at him to take a shower right away to get the gas off his body. The kid took out a lighter and lit himself on fire.
This is a very scary disorder. That is just one person I knew like that.
That is way more than Bi-polar.
As I have stated. I am not saying every person falls into the same category. I've seen these things first hand. It happens. Is bipolar disorder the only issue? No. Life is never that simple. As this study shows, trauma and bipolar disorder can lead to more violent outbursts. And, again, this doesn't mean every person with bipolar disorder falls into this category. All I am saying is it isn't uncommon. And in Wheeler's case this played into the action. Does that mean he is absolved of what he did? Hell no. But throwing him in jail will most likely not do him the service he needs. It needs to be treates.
Bipolar disorder is associated with a high prevalence of childhood trauma as well as with the possibility of aggressive and potentially violent behavior. It is important for clinicians to assess a patient’s potential for violence as accurately as possible to minimize risk. Taking clinical and historical information into account, such as mood symptoms and history of violence, substance abuse, childhood trauma, and impulsivity, can help clinicians make an accurate assessment.
There are other studies too. I'm not trying to argue with you. And I agree with you if you feel I am talking down about all bipolar people. I'm not. I'm just pointing out that we can't just not discuss the fact that he has this disorder and it had no connection to what happened.
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In comment 15136601 moespree said:
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That these people can't be helped without their medicine. Well that's not true. There are many people who go off their bipolar medication (or any other mental health medication) and they don't respond by strangling their wife or girlfriend unconscious to the point where they think she is dead. This is being used as a rationalization for his actions when it shouldn't be.
The man thought he murdered his girlfriend and went back to finish his dinner. That's not a simple, oh well he was off his medicine. There are deeper issues at work with him.
No offense but this is such an ignorant comment. Do you know people who are bipolar? If you understood the disorder and how it works then you'd understand what is possible. If you are trying to be rational with trying to understand the disorder then you'll never understand it.
I have had multiple experiences with people who are bipolar. One used to smoke weed all the time. The THC blocks the medication from working or at least that is what I was told in the 90s. This kid beat the shit out of his sister for hiding her money so he wouldn't steal it. When I confronted him he came after me with an ice pick. I wanted to beat the livinh shit out of him for what he did but all I did was take him down and get the ice pick from him.
This same person not too long later was told to mow the lawn. He didn't want to so he went out back and poured gasoline on himself. He screamed for his dad so his dad could watch. His dad was yelling at him to take a shower right away to get the gas off his body. The kid took out a lighter and lit himself on fire.
This is a very scary disorder. That is just one person I knew like that.
That is way more than Bi-polar.
Again, I agree that there is more to this than bipolar disorder but we can't just dismiss the fact that he is bipolar either.
No offense but this is such an ignorant comment. Do you know people who are bipolar? If you understood the disorder and how it works then you'd understand what is possible. If you are trying to be rational with trying to understand the disorder then you'll never understand it.
I have had multiple experiences with people who are bipolar. One used to smoke weed all the time. The THC blocks the medication from working or at least that is what I was told in the 90s. This kid beat the shit out of his sister for hiding her money so he wouldn't steal it. When I confronted him he came after me with an ice pick. I wanted to beat the livinh shit out of him for what he did but all I did was take him down and get the ice pick from him.
This same person not too long later was told to mow the lawn. He didn't want to so he went out back and poured gasoline on himself. He screamed for his dad so his dad could watch. His dad was yelling at him to take a shower right away to get the gas off his body. The kid took out a lighter and lit himself on fire.
This is a very scary disorder. That is just one person I knew like that.
Not all bipolar conditions are the same. My cousin was adopted, has bipolar disorder, started dating a heroin addict, became addicted herself, and had 6 children, ALL of whom suffer from some form of BPD. All of them have gone off meds at various points, and struggled greatly because of it, but none were ever violent.
Feeding the myth that all non-medicated BPD patients are violent is one of the major drivers of mental health misinformation. I can empathize with Wheeler's condition, but he and he alone is responsible for what he did.
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No offense but this is such an ignorant comment. Do you know people who are bipolar? If you understood the disorder and how it works then you'd understand what is possible. If you are trying to be rational with trying to understand the disorder then you'll never understand it.
I have had multiple experiences with people who are bipolar. One used to smoke weed all the time. The THC blocks the medication from working or at least that is what I was told in the 90s. This kid beat the shit out of his sister for hiding her money so he wouldn't steal it. When I confronted him he came after me with an ice pick. I wanted to beat the livinh shit out of him for what he did but all I did was take him down and get the ice pick from him.
This same person not too long later was told to mow the lawn. He didn't want to so he went out back and poured gasoline on himself. He screamed for his dad so his dad could watch. His dad was yelling at him to take a shower right away to get the gas off his body. The kid took out a lighter and lit himself on fire.
This is a very scary disorder. That is just one person I knew like that.
Not all bipolar conditions are the same. My cousin was adopted, has bipolar disorder, started dating a heroin addict, became addicted herself, and had 6 children, ALL of whom suffer from some form of BPD. All of them have gone off meds at various points, and struggled greatly because of it, but none were ever violent.
Feeding the myth that all non-medicated BPD patients are violent is one of the major drivers of mental health misinformation. I can empathize with Wheeler's condition, but he and he alone is responsible for what he did.
I agree. And as I have stated numerous times no not all people are violent. No argument there from me. All I am saying is that we can't say Wheeler being bipolar played no part in this. That is all. And, yes, he needs to be held responsible for his actions regardless.
Nothing to see here. Unless you really want to see it that is. All you need to do is look and read.
One of my wife's best friends after some issues got put into a hospital becauss of her disorder. She refused to take her meds. My wife came home and I couldn't describe the look on her face. She was upset, scared (again, not afraid but worried for her), etc. Her husband went every day and she treated him like shit. He cried every day but stood by her through it. Once she got back on the meds she was back to taking control of her life so to speak. So, the word scary was used more to see how families and friends have suffered along with these people through those episodes.
I am not talking badly about any of these people. What I am doing is just talking about the disorder. And, obviously, what you have encountered in your life seems much different. I respect that.
He and his girlfriend are both lucky she's alive. I don't know how he can ever make amends to her for that but he's got a tall mountain to climb to be able to have any kind of normal life again — never mind playing football.
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In comment 15136601 moespree said:
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That these people can't be helped without their medicine. Well that's not true. There are many people who go off their bipolar medication (or any other mental health medication) and they don't respond by strangling their wife or girlfriend unconscious to the point where they think she is dead. This is being used as a rationalization for his actions when it shouldn't be.
The man thought he murdered his girlfriend and went back to finish his dinner. That's not a simple, oh well he was off his medicine. There are deeper issues at work with him.
No offense but this is such an ignorant comment. Do you know people who are bipolar? If you understood the disorder and how it works then you'd understand what is possible. If you are trying to be rational with trying to understand the disorder then you'll never understand it.
I have had multiple experiences with people who are bipolar. One used to smoke weed all the time. The THC blocks the medication from working or at least that is what I was told in the 90s. This kid beat the shit out of his sister for hiding her money so he wouldn't steal it. When I confronted him he came after me with an ice pick. I wanted to beat the livinh shit out of him for what he did but all I did was take him down and get the ice pick from him.
This same person not too long later was told to mow the lawn. He didn't want to so he went out back and poured gasoline on himself. He screamed for his dad so his dad could watch. His dad was yelling at him to take a shower right away to get the gas off his body. The kid took out a lighter and lit himself on fire.
This is a very scary disorder. That is just one person I knew like that.
That is way more than Bi-polar.
Again, I agree that there is more to this than bipolar disorder but we can't just dismiss the fact that he is bipolar either.