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NFT: Game Stop

Kevin999 : 1/27/2021 9:09 pm
How crazy is the current stock price of Game Stop. Along with AMC and Blackberry there appears to be some serious short squeezes going on right now. I am by no means a stock expert, curious to what more knowledgeable posters feel about this. FYI, I do not own nor plan to buy any of the above stocks.
I was just starting to read about this  
rasbutant : 1/27/2021 9:22 pm : link
totally confused as well.

What's the end game for these people, i don't get it. But don't fully understand it either.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like a forum group got together an artificial inflated the stock price. I'd imagine the only way to do this is by buying the stock? What happens to all these people once people start selling? Why wouldn't game stop themselves just sell a ton of its stock and say thanks internet.

I don't get it?
Here is my take.  
robbieballs2003 : 1/27/2021 9:37 pm : link
Game Stop is basically blockbuster but the Robinhooders have turned Game Stop into Orange Juice from Trading Places. I can't wait until a movie is made of this so Margot Robbie can explain it to us in a bubble bath.
It  
thomasa510 : 1/27/2021 9:39 pm : link
It’s a short squeeze. One day soon the stock will crash pretty pathetically. But when exactly who knows

GameStop should issue shares and pay off debt etc.

Meanwhile some hedge fund folks learned a lesson.
from what I read  
Kevin999 : 1/27/2021 9:46 pm : link
The outstanding shorts ( at one point not sure if still true ) was greater than the total number of real stocks. The reddit crew was telling everyone NOT to sell so the price would skyrocket as the shorts tried to close their positions. But at some point you need to sell to get your money and I would think the whole thing tumbles to the ground. Someone whill get caught holding the bag.
robbie, thomas and kevin just summed it up.  
Del Shofner : 1/27/2021 9:54 pm : link
Back in the day I used to litigate this stuff - but it's all greatly magnified by the hedge funds and now the day traders on the interwebs. This has gone on forever on Wall St, but it used to be more manageable.
The question now, I think, is how much pain WSB wants to inflict  
ThreePoints : 1/27/2021 9:55 pm : link
The hedge funds are between a rock and a hard place. Friday is a big day when contracts come due (correct me if I'm wrong).

Imagine you're WSB. You get in early. By Friday, hedge funds want out and the price goes to the moon - $1,000. Do you sell? Or do you wait until it hits $1,100, $1,500, $2,000? You've already made your money, now it how much you want to screw the hedge funds.
Hedge fund guy I know is a real scum bag  
DC Gmen Fan : 1/27/2021 10:00 pm : link
like pure human filth. Laughs at destroying others' lives. I know all hedgies aren't like that but it does give me some inner zen to know he might be crapping his pants a little this week.
Many funds  
pjcas18 : 1/27/2021 10:18 pm : link
already closed their short positions (including Melvin Capital and Citron).

And the billionaires who rode the wave, like Chamath Palihapitiya, already closed their positions too.

the people who bought on the way up are the ones who are going to likely lose because this will come back down since it is artificially inflated.

Once the majority of shorts are closed, all you have is an inflated price.



RE: Many funds  
ThreePoints : 1/27/2021 10:26 pm : link
In comment 15136547 pjcas18 said:
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already closed their short positions (including Melvin Capital and Citron).

And the billionaires who rode the wave, like Chamath Palihapitiya, already closed their positions too.

the people who bought on the way up are the ones who are going to likely lose because this will come back down since it is artificially inflated.

Once the majority of shorts are closed, all you have is an inflated price.




The rumor is Melvin Capital didn't close all their positions.
Can’t people short the new price  
rasbutant : 1/27/2021 10:29 pm : link
And make a boat load of money when the stock falls back down?
RE: RE: Many funds  
pjcas18 : 1/27/2021 10:34 pm : link
In comment 15136551 ThreePoints said:
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In comment 15136547 pjcas18 said:


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already closed their short positions (including Melvin Capital and Citron).

And the billionaires who rode the wave, like Chamath Palihapitiya, already closed their positions too.

the people who bought on the way up are the ones who are going to likely lose because this will come back down since it is artificially inflated.

Once the majority of shorts are closed, all you have is an inflated price.






The rumor is Melvin Capital didn't close all their positions.


are short positions required to be made public?

They say they closed it - and Steve Cohen (Point72) helped bail them out.

It is possible (as another poster pointed out) I guess that they shorted it again at this price.

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Melvin Capital, hedge fund targeted by Reddit board, closes out of GameStop short position

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RE: RE: RE: Many funds  
JayBinQueens : 1/27/2021 10:40 pm : link
In comment 15136559 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15136551 ThreePoints said:


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In comment 15136547 pjcas18 said:


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already closed their short positions (including Melvin Capital and Citron).

And the billionaires who rode the wave, like Chamath Palihapitiya, already closed their positions too.

the people who bought on the way up are the ones who are going to likely lose because this will come back down since it is artificially inflated.

Once the majority of shorts are closed, all you have is an inflated price.






The rumor is Melvin Capital didn't close all their positions.



are short positions required to be made public?

They say they closed it - and Steve Cohen (Point72) helped bail them out.

It is possible (as another poster pointed out) I guess that they shorted it again at this price.



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Melvin Capital, hedge fund targeted by Reddit board, closes out of GameStop short position

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Melvin was quoted in a bloomberg article (I believe yesterday) saying they won't comment on what positions they have only to less than a day later say they got out. Reddit found this very fishy, and someone claims the amount traded wasn't significant enough to have gotten them out.

I know nothing about the market but that's why the reddit ppl think it was Melvin lying to try to get the price down if they were in fact lying, tomorrow and Friday will be crazy
Steve Cohen  
pjcas18 : 1/27/2021 10:50 pm : link
acknowledged he bailed out Melvin so they could close their position (started by a former employee) and has to answer fans bullshit comparisons to Madoff.

Of course it could be BS from Cohen and Melvin.

Or perhaps his $2.7B supplied to Melvin could be to purchase shares, add to the pump, and average their cost enough to lessen the loss.

Or they could have closed the position.


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RE: Steve Cohen  
JayBinQueens : 1/27/2021 11:05 pm : link
In comment 15136571 pjcas18 said:
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acknowledged he bailed out Melvin so they could close their position (started by a former employee) and has to answer fans bullshit comparisons to Madoff.

Of course it could be BS from Cohen and Melvin.

Or perhaps his $2.7B supplied to Melvin could be to purchase shares, add to the pump, and average their cost enough to lessen the loss.

Or they could have closed the position.
link - ( New Window )


Ya... Obviously I don't know for sure. It's very possible they did.
I don't think I'd be surprised either way
Friday is d day  
mattlawson : 1/27/2021 11:30 pm : link
No one is getting out until atleast Friday afternoon.
Melvin Capital still has to cover their positions  
ZGiants98 : 1/27/2021 11:49 pm : link
whether they got out or not. The squeeze hasn't happened. Once Melvin Capital and other hedge funds start covering their positions (They have 6.5 days) the price will go higher. A bunch of ITM calls haven't expired yet either.
RE: I was just starting to read about this  
Kev in Cali : 1/27/2021 11:51 pm : link
In comment 15136498 rasbutant said:
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totally confused as well.

What's the end game for these people, i don't get it......

I don't get it?


All the folks that shorted heavily in the $3-10 strikes, and short range (2-6 months), will get hammered. If they don't have capital to back it up....well....thats a pretty large dent in someone's portfolio.

Don't sell naked. That's all I got.
RE: Friday is d day  
Kev in Cali : 1/28/2021 12:05 am : link
In comment 15136591 mattlawson said:
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No one is getting out until atleast Friday afternoon.


Witching days(?) can get crazy....this game stop sounds like one to follow leading up to it. I'll be tuned in, but I'll pass on the ride.
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