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Jay on the Island : 2/15/2021 12:20 pm
The Devils finally return to action tomorrow against the Rangers. The Devils once had over 20 players on the COVID list but they are currently down to just 5 (Nathan Bastian, Nikita Gusev, Nico Hischier, Dmitry Kulikov, Travis Zajac) Bastian was at practice so he is expected to be taken off the list today.

For the first time all season the Devils have all of their goaltenders available. Blackwood, Dell, Wedgewood, and Comrie are all practicing. Dell was sent to Binghamton for a rehab game which he played Friday.

As for Binghamton, there have been some very good news regarding the prospects. Michael Vukojevic has started the season with a goal and 3 assists in the first 3 games. Vukojevic was a 2019 3rd round pick better known for his defensive skills than offense. If he can keep this up he might find his way into NJ at some point next year.

Also fellow 2019 pick Nikita Okhotiuk is off to a strong start as are LW Nolan Foote and RD Reilly Walsh. Another 2019 pick RW Graeme Clarke is expected to be cleared soon. I look forward to seeing how he progresses because he is known as a great shooter. If he can improve his skating he might have a future as a middle six RW in the NHL. His brother Brandt Clarke is a potential top 5 pick in this years draft also.
Great to have some real Devs hockey to talk about Jay!  
Stu11 : 2/15/2021 12:32 pm : link
Yea sounds like Reilly Walsh has really impressed so far. Really nice to have Dmen in the pipeline. One disturbing thing developing though is Nico. They are being very tight lipped but apparently he broke his foot training in Dec. so it wasn't some "minor" injury the Devs made it out to be. He seemed to be inching back closer to playing 2 weeks ago but there's been radio silence since the Covid thing hit and now he's still on the list which is bizarre since he wasn't even around the team.
RE: Great to have some real Devs hockey to talk about Jay!  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2021 12:41 pm : link
In comment 15153255 Stu11 said:
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Yea sounds like Reilly Walsh has really impressed so far. Really nice to have Dmen in the pipeline. One disturbing thing developing though is Nico. They are being very tight lipped but apparently he broke his foot training in Dec. so it wasn't some "minor" injury the Devs made it out to be. He seemed to be inching back closer to playing 2 weeks ago but there's been radio silence since the Covid thing hit and now he's still on the list which is bizarre since he wasn't even around the team.

He had reportedly just begun skating right before the shutdown. I believe he broke his fibula which is the smaller leg bone. The tibia, shin bone, is the front bigger bone. I broke my tibia is high school and the recovery time was 6-8 weeks. It will be interesting to see what happens with Hischier once he comes off the COVID list. I will admit that I am becoming concerned not just because the offense desperately needs him but because he should be back by now.

Let's hope that this isn't worse than reported.
MTL  
pjcas18 : 2/15/2021 12:55 pm : link
put Paul Byron on waivers.

Given the current COVID conditions the Devils (and many teams) should consider claiming him.

If it makes sense even look at a Byron for Butcher swap (if Butcher is still persona non grata in NJ).

Byron is super fast, plays LW or RW, plays PK, relentless forechecker, solid 3rd line winger.
RE: MTL  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2021 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15153278 pjcas18 said:
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put Paul Byron on waivers.

Given the current COVID conditions the Devils (and many teams) should consider claiming him.

If it makes sense even look at a Byron for Butcher swap (if Butcher is still persona non grata in NJ).

Byron is super fast, plays LW or RW, plays PK, relentless forechecker, solid 3rd line winger.

Byron would be a solid fit in the Devils system. My concern is that he has two seasons left after this at $3.4 million each. The Devils are in good cap space now but they will need to extend Hughes soon plus Gusev, Palmieri, and Kulikov are FA at season's end.
Yeah  
pjcas18 : 2/15/2021 1:04 pm : link
depends on cap situation, especially since who knows how the cap will be next year, etc. with few fans in attendance and revenue declining.

I thought overall the contract was a plus, but it obviously depends as you point out.
RE: Yeah  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2021 1:07 pm : link
In comment 15153290 pjcas18 said:
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depends on cap situation, especially since who knows how the cap will be next year, etc. with few fans in attendance and revenue declining.

I thought overall the contract was a plus, but it obviously depends as you point out.

Normally that's a very fair cap hit for a player of his caliber but if the cap shrinks it is going to make things difficult for many teams.
Byron would be interesting but doubt he's claimed  
Stu11 : 2/15/2021 1:43 pm : link
Sounds like every Devil besides Zajac will be off the list by the end of the day as 4 of the 5 still on it practiced today. Zajac and Palms evidently had Covid, symptoms and all.
RE: Byron would be interesting but doubt he's claimed  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2021 1:56 pm : link
In comment 15153324 Stu11 said:
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Sounds like every Devil besides Zajac will be off the list by the end of the day as 4 of the 5 still on it practiced today. Zajac and Palms evidently had Covid, symptoms and all.

Zajac has been surprisingly good so far this season so he is actually a pretty big loss especially with Hischier out. I wonder if the Devils will give McLeod time as the 2nd line center. He has been one of the biggest surprises IMO and he is playing with far more confidence.
RE: RE: Byron would be interesting but doubt he's claimed  
Stu11 : 2/15/2021 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15153340 Jay on the Island said:
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Sounds like every Devil besides Zajac will be off the list by the end of the day as 4 of the 5 still on it practiced today. Zajac and Palms evidently had Covid, symptoms and all.


Zajac has been surprisingly good so far this season so he is actually a pretty big loss especially with Hischier out. I wonder if the Devils will give McLeod time as the 2nd line center. He has been one of the biggest surprises IMO and he is playing with far more confidence.

Agreed they will miss him. Seems like he's the last one on the list. Vatanen skated at practice today. Will be interesting to see if he makes his debut tomorrow. Its gonna be a tough haul from here on out with a really condensed schedule. They're gonna really need Dell or Wedgewood if they're gonna make noise at all.
May not be a popular take  
Sammo85 : 2/15/2021 2:09 pm : link
but I think Devs need to NOT give Palmieri a longer term extension. He's struggled so far and looks like he wants to win and I don't see him fitting in as the Devils retool. Weird pandemic season but I'd move him even if just for a decent prospect and a 2nd rounder.

Maple Leafs have been sniffing for another winger to go into playoffs, I'd look for their 1st given it will be a late rounder for sure.



RE: May not be a popular take  
Stu11 : 2/15/2021 2:17 pm : link
In comment 15153358 Sammo85 said:
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but I think Devs need to NOT give Palmieri a longer term extension. He's struggled so far and looks like he wants to win and I don't see him fitting in as the Devils retool. Weird pandemic season but I'd move him even if just for a decent prospect and a 2nd rounder.

Maple Leafs have been sniffing for another winger to go into playoffs, I'd look for their 1st given it will be a late rounder for sure.



Don't think this is such a bad take. Small sample size, but Palms has not looked good this year. You do need some vets to play with all the youth they have however it will be a tough call in Palms and a long term deal.
Also think there's more than a decent chance  
Stu11 : 2/15/2021 2:20 pm : link
That Gusev is moved at the deadline as well. If there's not a good chance to re-sign the UFAs you have to move them.
RE: RE: May not be a popular take  
Sammo85 : 2/15/2021 2:24 pm : link
In comment 15153372 Stu11 said:
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but I think Devs need to NOT give Palmieri a longer term extension. He's struggled so far and looks like he wants to win and I don't see him fitting in as the Devils retool. Weird pandemic season but I'd move him even if just for a decent prospect and a 2nd rounder.

Maple Leafs have been sniffing for another winger to go into playoffs, I'd look for their 1st given it will be a late rounder for sure.





Don't think this is such a bad take. Small sample size, but Palms has not looked good this year. You do need some vets to play with all the youth they have however it will be a tough call in Palms and a long term deal.


I think he may also want a chance to try a run at a Cup. He's turned 30 this season and I'm not sure he's getting a real long-term (ie 5 yr deal in this economic climate) and because it seems the Devils want to try and maximize flexibility in next two years once Subban's deal also comes off and they need to extend Hughes and so they can try and make some competitive additions.

Devils have guys like Foote/Mercer/Holtz knocking on the door next year or two along with other guys coming up now like McLeod who may not be such a forgotten man anymore.
RE: Also think there's more than a decent chance  
Sammo85 : 2/15/2021 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15153377 Stu11 said:
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That Gusev is moved at the deadline as well. If there's not a good chance to re-sign the UFAs you have to move them.


Not a Gusev fan. Made some steps last season but not enough and he's also a bit iffy on his skates.
RE: May not be a popular take  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2021 2:53 pm : link
In comment 15153358 Sammo85 said:
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but I think Devs need to NOT give Palmieri a longer term extension. He's struggled so far and looks like he wants to win and I don't see him fitting in as the Devils retool. Weird pandemic season but I'd move him even if just for a decent prospect and a 2nd rounder.

Maple Leafs have been sniffing for another winger to go into playoffs, I'd look for their 1st given it will be a late rounder for sure.



I actually agree with you depending on how Palmieri finishes. I would add Gusev to the list also. Both have struggled thus far and unless they finish strong like they did last season I would look to trade both by the deadline. I would like to see Nolan Foote promoted to play alongside Hughes.
Palmieri really struggled when playing with Hughes which is very surprising to me. Hopefully Palmieri will return to form once Hischier returns and they are linemates once again. Palmieri plays much better alongside Hischier.

Once the team is fully healthy I would like to see Ruff reform the Gusev Zacha Bratt line from last year. All three took off last season when they were lined up together.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/15/2021 4:12 pm : link
Not a big NHL dude, but just Wiki'ed the Devils & see they haven't played since January. Are they going to make up the games they missed or just say 'Screw it' & move along?
RE: ...  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2021 4:31 pm : link
In comment 15153483 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Not a big NHL dude, but just Wiki'ed the Devils & see they haven't played since January. Are they going to make up the games they missed or just say 'Screw it' & move along?

They are going to make it up. Imagine the fan reaction if the Devils missed the playoffs by 2 points but had 5 games canceled. They are going to have quite a lot of back to back games over the remainder of the season.
Jay.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/15/2021 4:49 pm : link
Thanks. And yes, the fans would be irate, and rightfully so.
If the Devils are going to have any chance of winning a playoff spot  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2021 4:59 pm : link
They will need Hischier back soon and they need Aaron Dell to play well. Blackwood is back and establishing himself as one of the better goaltenders in the NHL but the Devils are going to have a large number of back to back games coming up due to the postponements. Dell will be playing more frequently than planned and they need him to perform.
Well Ruff gave a Nico update today  
Stu11 : 2/15/2021 5:10 pm : link
says he'd be ready to play if he wasn't on the covid list.
RE: Jay.  
EricJ : 2/15/2021 5:16 pm : link
In comment 15153507 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Thanks. And yes, the fans would be irate, and rightfully so.


They would have to delay the playoffs to get the games in. The opposing teams would also be missing games and potentially a playoff spot too.

Imagine missing out on an NFL wildcard spot because your team only played 15 instead of 16 games? Holy shit..
RE: Well Ruff gave a Nico update today  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2021 5:52 pm : link
In comment 15153534 Stu11 said:
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says he'd be ready to play if he wasn't on the covid list.

That's great news. Hischier was placed on the Covid list on Feb. 8th so he should be cleared by the weekend.
Guys talking now about who had it  
Stu11 : 2/15/2021 8:56 pm : link
Blackwood said it hit him hard in his chest, took his breath away. That's worrisome in terms of his conditioning and ability to play a lot in the condensed schedule.
RE: Guys talking now about who had it  
Jay on the Island : 2/16/2021 9:01 am : link
In comment 15153733 Stu11 said:
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Blackwood said it hit him hard in his chest, took his breath away. That's worrisome in terms of his conditioning and ability to play a lot in the condensed schedule.

That’s the most disappointing news. I was expecting Blackwood to start tonight but now it sounds like the Devils will hold him out a few more days. Also Dell isn’t expected to start tonight either so we will likely see Comrie or Wedgewood. Kulikov and Gusev skated yesterday so hopefully they are cleared for the next game and we will no longer see Tennyson on the ice.
RE: RE: Guys talking now about who had it  
Stu11 : 2/16/2021 1:43 pm : link
In comment 15153997 Jay on the Island said:
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Blackwood said it hit him hard in his chest, took his breath away. That's worrisome in terms of his conditioning and ability to play a lot in the condensed schedule.


That’s the most disappointing news. I was expecting Blackwood to start tonight but now it sounds like the Devils will hold him out a few more days. Also Dell isn’t expected to start tonight either so we will likely see Comrie or Wedgewood. Kulikov and Gusev skated yesterday so hopefully they are cleared for the next game and we will no longer see Tennyson on the ice.

He did also say he's feeling much better and ready to go. A shame if he doesn't play tonight. We do catch a break with no Panarin tonight for the Rangers. Also some other guys talking about having Covid- Hughes and Severson definately had it. Both said they are fine now and have been symtom free for a week. This clearly was not a case of 1 or 2 having it and the rest being deemed close contacts. Clearly a bunch tested positive. Man did the NHL botch this that weekend in Buffalo. However the Sabres blaming the Devils is pathetic.
Great win  
HeftyLefty : 2/16/2021 9:45 pm : link
Great win tonight!!! Layoff....no problem!
Yep great to see Blackwood so sharp having not played in a month  
Stu11 : 2/16/2021 9:51 pm : link
Huge 2 points. The checkers came up big tonight. Merkely and Koukanin coming up big. Nice to see Butcher score and play well in his first game in 11 months. Blackwood is just so huge. Nice to know we have a franchise guy back there. Its skin huge when you're building a team to have the goaltending set.
Hell yea  
Jay on the Island : 2/16/2021 9:53 pm : link
That was a great win. Blackwood continues his strong play. Hopefully we don’t see Carrick and Tennyson in the lineup anymore. After tonight I am still wondering why Butcher hasn’t played over Tennyson once this season.

Kuokkanen struggled in his first two games this season but he has been significantly better since with 6 points in his last 5 games. Let’s hope that he can keep up his strong play.

This season has been a lot of fun watching these young kids contribute.
A week from now  
Jay on the Island : 2/16/2021 10:06 pm : link
The Devils should be at full strength. Hischier, Gusev, Kulikov, Murray, and Vatanen will be back.
RE: A week from now  
Stu11 : 2/16/2021 10:21 pm : link
In comment 15154955 Jay on the Island said:
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The Devils should be at full strength. Hischier, Gusev, Kulikov, Murray, and Vatanen will be back.

Yep just in time too. Boston Thursday then the Caps twice in less than a week.thats why these 2 points were so big. I agree on Butcher. I know Tennyson has a strong +/- but the advanced stats are not kind to him.
RE: RE: A week from now  
Jay on the Island : 2/16/2021 10:28 pm : link
In comment 15154962 Stu11 said:
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The Devils should be at full strength. Hischier, Gusev, Kulikov, Murray, and Vatanen will be back.


Yep just in time too. Boston Thursday then the Caps twice in less than a week.thats why these 2 points were so big. I agree on Butcher. I know Tennyson has a strong +/- but the advanced stats are not kind to him.

The Devils were struggling to score with Hischier out plus not having Bratt early on. The Devils needed offense from wherever they could get it and that’s where Butcher provides value. If Tennyson was at least great defensively then I could live with him but he really is an AHL player not someone who should be playing every night.
I just checked the Corsi ratings  
Jay on the Island : 2/17/2021 10:13 am : link
and Tennyson was just as bad as I expected. Once again he was the worst ranked defender on the team. This guy should be in Binghamton not NJ.
The Devils have sent  
Jay on the Island : 2/17/2021 5:08 pm : link
Maltsev and Merkley to the taxi squad. Making room for Gusev and Hischier?

I am disappointed that they removed Merkley from the active roster as the Kuokkanen Zacha and Merkley line played very well last night.
RE: The Devils have sent  
Stu11 : 2/18/2021 12:33 am : link
In comment 15155629 Jay on the Island said:
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Maltsev and Merkley to the taxi squad. Making room for Gusev and Hischier?

I am disappointed that they removed Merkley from the active roster as the Kuokkanen Zacha and Merkley line played very well last night.

Yeah surprising move there, but with Gusev and Nico back soon I guess they won't have a spot. Yeah as I said with Tennyson the advanced stats don't treat him well. Hopefully with Vats hopefully in the lineup Thursday his time comes to an end. Shero and now Fitzgerald deserve a lot of credit they really have filled the orginization with a real hungry hard working army of bottom 6 fwds some of which have sneaky good skills and a franchise goalie. Now our top 6 talent and lack of an elite Dman will likely keep us out of the playoffs in what is the toughest division in hockey this year but hopefully the future is bright.
Stu  
Jay on the Island : 2/18/2021 10:03 am : link
I hope that the Devils make the playoffs obviously but if they land another top 10 pick it would probably be better for the future. As of now the top 10 is loaded with defenseman including the brothers of two Devils Jack’s brother Luke Hughes and Brandt Clarke who is the brother of Devils 2019 3rd round pick Graeme Clarke who just made his AHL debut last night.

I actually like the Devils D prospects as Ty Smith looks like a future top pairing defenseman, he played there against the Rangers, plus Kevin Bahl, Shakir Mukhamadullin, Nikita Okhotiuk, Reilly Walsh, and Michael Vukojevic but I seriously doubt any of them develop into a great #1 defensemen. Btw I don’t know if you saw Reilly Walsh’s coast to coast goal versus Ilya Samsonov last night but you should check it out.
Great news for the Devils tonight  
Jay on the Island : 2/18/2021 10:07 am : link
Blackwood is expected to start tonight versus Boston and every Devil except for Hischier is off the Covid list. The defense should be the best it’s been tonight with Murray, Kulikov, and Vats back. Here is the projected lineup:
Johnsson - Hughes - Bratt
Kuokkanen - Zacha - Palmieri
Sharangovitch - Zajac - Gusev
Wood - McLeod - Bastian

Murray - Subban
Smith - Severson
Kulikov - Vatanen

Blackwood
RE: Great news for the Devils tonight  
Stu11 : 2/18/2021 11:49 am : link
In comment 15156080 Jay on the Island said:
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Blackwood is expected to start tonight versus Boston and every Devil except for Hischier is off the Covid list. The defense should be the best it’s been tonight with Murray, Kulikov, and Vats back. Here is the projected lineup:
Johnsson - Hughes - Bratt
Kuokkanen - Zacha - Palmieri
Sharangovitch - Zajac - Gusev
Wood - McLeod - Bastian

Murray - Subban
Smith - Severson
Kulikov - Vatanen

Blackwood

Yep saw yesterday that Nico is the only one left on the list. Hopefully he'll be off it this weekend. Yea seems like Walsh exploded at Binghamton. He's piling up the highlight reel goals. He and Smith have 1st pairing upside with puck moving skills that should be a good compliment to Bahl's size and physicality.
I don’t think Walsh has 1st pairing upside  
Jay on the Island : 2/18/2021 12:19 pm : link
Due to his play in his own zone. He can still be a good 2nd or 3rd pairing defender and be an asset on the power play though. He seems like an ideal fit to play next to a Bahl, Mukhamadullin, Okhotiuk type. I have been impressed by Okhotiuk’s skating ability. From his scouting report I didn’t expect him to be that fluid as a skater and stick handler. I understand why the Devils used a 2nd round pick on him. I think Okhotiuk could be a good 2nd-3rd pairing type and top penalty killer. Hopefully the offensive game will improve for him.
Another update  
Jay on the Island : 2/18/2021 3:24 pm : link
Maltsev and Merkley were elevated off the taxi squad as Zajac won’t play tonight and speculation is that Gusev will be out also. Unfortunately Ryan Murray is out tonight but hopefully Butcher plays again instead of Tennyson. Carrick was demoted to the taxi squad instead of Tennyson which I don’t understand but hopefully Tennyson has played his last game as a devil.

I don’t know if this is true or not but I heard a rumor that Hischier will be back Tuesday vs Buffalo. When the team is completely healthy I hope the lineup is:
Johnsson Hischier Palmieri
Sharangovich Hughes Bratt
Kuokkanen Zacha Gusev
Wood McLeod Bastian

Murray Subban
Smith Severson
Kulikov Vatanen

Blackwood
Dell

I would love to see Kuokkanen with Hughes and Bratt but I don’t want to break up kuokkanen and Zacha who have played better together plus Gusev played his best last season when paired with Zacha.

I am not buying in yet but Zacha looks much better this season. Let’s hope that this continues and this isn’t just another 12-15 game tease. He’s not going to be the top line center the Devils hoped but he could still be a very good 3rd line center.
Good pass from Hughes  
Jay on the Island : 2/18/2021 8:10 pm : link
Followed by a great shot by Palmieri.
Great 2 periods so far  
Stu11 : 2/18/2021 9:01 pm : link
Good to see Palms get on the score sheet. We've been devastating off the rush lately. Jay I agree totally in Zacha. He gets killed by the Devil sources I follow on twitter like Devils army blog and Pucks and Putchforks but he's been good this year and has settled into a nice 3rd line C type roll. Sure at 6th overall we expected more scoring, but he's a solid 2 way C who can flash the kind of skill he did on the 3rd goal
RE: Great 2 periods so far  
Jay on the Island : 2/18/2021 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15156795 Stu11 said:
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Good to see Palms get on the score sheet. We've been devastating off the rush lately. Jay I agree totally in Zacha. He gets killed by the Devil sources I follow on twitter like Devils army blog and Pucks and Putchforks but he's been good this year and has settled into a nice 3rd line C type roll. Sure at 6th overall we expected more scoring, but he's a solid 2 way C who can flash the kind of skill he did on the 3rd goal

Huge win and Blackwood must be surprised that he only faced 27 shots against the best team in the division. Hopefully this gets Palmieri going.
Nobody breaks the video down better than Bryce Salvador  
Stu11 : 2/18/2021 10:07 pm : link
He just broke down the 3rd goal, what a great play from beginning to end. Butcher has already contributed more than Tennyson has all season...in 2 games. Sounds like Zajac and Murray should be back this weekend. The scary thing is that as well as they've played, they haven't been close to full strength for any game all season.
Stu  
Jay on the Island : 2/18/2021 10:52 pm : link
Salvador is great at what he does. The 3rd goal was a great play by Zacha. He is playing with confidence but again I am not going to get too excited until he does this for a long period. If he keeps playing this way the Devils could have the best center group in the NHL. I thought that McLeod played well tonight also.

Johnsson should have had a goal tonight as Hughes set him up perfectly but Johnsson just missed.

Finally I don’t think there is a goalie in the league right now that is playing better than Blackwood. The first goal was not his fault as it was a terrible turnover by Palmieri in his own zone.

It’s only been two games but Butcher looks much better than he did last season. Who knows maybe the benching this season was the wake up call he needed.

The one negative  
Jay on the Island : 2/18/2021 11:03 pm : link
Tonight was Merkley. He had a rough game and Zacha looked better with Kuokkanen and Johnsson than he did with Merkley. I’m excited to see when Gusev returns and plays with Kuokkanen and Zacha. IMO Kuokkanen deserves to stay in NJ when Hischier, Gusev, and Zajac return.
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