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NFT: Yankees Chat - Sign Justin Wilson, Chirinos

adamg : 2/16/2021 4:16 am
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Sweeny Murti
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Yankees deal with Justin Wilson is done. Rejoins Yankees, pitched for them in 2015.
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Free-agent catcher Robinson Chirinos in agreement with Yankees on minor-league deal, sources tell
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Wilson was a pretty  
section125 : 2/16/2021 6:03 am : link
good pitcher when he was traded. I guess the budget only allows for these signings. I don't expect much.

As far as Chirinos, the need a backup in case of injury and spring training reps, I suppose.
Wilson’s had a good couple years in Flushing  
wigs in nyc : 2/16/2021 8:47 am : link
I think the right way to look at this is as a Kahnle replacement. Very glad there’s another proven arm on board.

As for Chirinos, well, they needed a third catcher, as mentioned. A backup’s backup.
Fun fact (ok, maybe just to me)  
rich in DC : 2/16/2021 10:12 am : link
Remember that after the 2015 season, the Yanks traded Wilson to the Tigers for . . . Luis Cessa and Chad Green. Green alone made the trade a win, but now that he is back for just money (albeit, 4 years later), that just makes it more interesting.

The Yanks now have a deep pen again. Chapman, Britton, Green, O’Day, Wilson, Cessa, Loiasiga as the 40 man guys.

Don’t forget they have a bunch of vets signed to minor league deals- Tyler Lyons, Nestor Cortes (who can be a long man or spot starter), old friend Adam Warren (who is now recovered from TJ surgery) and longer shot Reggie McClain, who they picked up from the Phillies.
Rich  
bigbluehoya : 2/16/2021 10:14 am : link
any sense for what they plan on doing with Nick Nelson?

Are they going to try to stretch him out? Or keep him in the bullpen at AAA and have him as one of the first call-ups for bullpen contingencies?
Chirinos serves the purpose of the 3rd veteran catcher,  
TheMick7 : 2/16/2021 11:41 am : link
If Sanchez or Higgy gets injured. As for Wilson,he hasn't changed since the last time we had him.His velocity is the same & his propensity for walking batters is the same. After Ottavino last year,his walk ratio can't be worse & he gives us another LHP in the BP!
RE: Rich  
rich in DC : 2/16/2021 1:02 pm : link
In comment 15154078 bigbluehoya said:
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any sense for what they plan on doing with Nick Nelson?

Are they going to try to stretch him out? Or keep him in the bullpen at AAA and have him as one of the first call-ups for bullpen contingencies?


No idea at all.

IMO, it looks like the front office is trying to stack up a bunch of vets to allow the Yanks to send the young guys to the minors and get regular reps. Then, if the vets fail, they bring up the young guys.

Otherwise, when the season ends, you let the vets go and work in the young guys who have had a full season of regular reps in the minors.
Another thing to watch for  
rich in DC : 2/16/2021 1:08 pm : link
The Yanks have a significant group of younger players who are “out of options.” This means that they cannot be sent back to the minors without clearing waivers (which, if they player is a pitcher, catcher or any good, won’t happen as another club will claim them).

Just a quick list- Abreu, Cessa, German, Tauchman, Loiasiga, Higashioka and Estrada.

I hadn’t realized that Tauchman was out of options, which may explain the Bruce signing. If Tauchman comes to camp and performs like 2020 instead of 2019, they might have to cut bait and would need a second option. They could also just turn to Allen, but he hasn’t proven anything in the majors yet.

This also could explain the run on vet bullpen arms. If Cessa is wildly inconsistent or German runs into usage issues, they can’t send them to the minors. They might have to hide them in the pen or trade them.
Was the roster size ever decided by MLB ?  
Ron from Ninerland : 2/16/2021 1:46 pm : link
Is it 26 or 28 ? This is kinda important.
liked Wilson when we traded him  
RasputinPrime : 2/16/2021 5:12 pm : link
and for the money, not a bad signing. That said, hard to get excited when the Dodgers are blowing the budget to get ready to repeat while we are focused on remaining competitive.
Doesn't or wasn't camp  
section125 : 2/16/2021 5:31 pm : link
supposed to start like today?
RE: Was the roster size ever decided by MLB ?  
shyster : 2/16/2021 7:25 pm : link
In comment 15154370 Ron from Ninerland said:
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Is it 26 or 28 ? This is kinda important.


Yes, 26 for opening day, max of 13 pitchers.

Expands to 28 on September 1.
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RE: Doesn't or wasn't camp  
adamg : 2/16/2021 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15154664 section125 said:
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supposed to start like today?


Good call. Looks like they report tomorrow.
Some news from Olney  
wigs in nyc : 2/16/2021 10:52 pm : link
that the Wilson contract structure is likely to be similar to O’Day’s with multiple and varying options designed to provide protection to the player while also lowering AAV- final cap number should come in between $2-3m
RE: RE: Doesn't or wasn't camp  
section125 : 2/17/2021 10:15 am : link
In comment 15154788 adamg said:
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supposed to start like today?



Good call. Looks like they report tomorrow.


Has to be the quietest Pitchers and Catchers in my 64 years!

But my MLBTV Extra Innings renewed and with the rebate from the shortened season my payment is only like $50 for the season...
Boone says Frazier is the starting LF  
shyster : 2/17/2021 3:10 pm : link
Cashman chimes in to say Clint had a hell of a year last season and should be very proud of it.

Kind of funny given that he was benched for the last three games of the ALDS with the Yanks' season on the line. And was even passed over in favor of Mike Ford for a critical pinch hit opportunity in Game 5.

Whatever. My perception has been that Boone has been in Frazier's corner and the jerking around has come from above.

May he make the most of the opportunity.


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RE: Boone says Frazier is the starting LF  
adamg : 2/18/2021 1:50 am : link
In comment 15155505 shyster said:
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Cashman chimes in to say Clint had a hell of a year last season and should be very proud of it.

Kind of funny given that he was benched for the last three games of the ALDS with the Yanks' season on the line. And was even passed over in favor of Mike Ford for a critical pinch hit opportunity in Game 5.

Whatever. My perception has been that Boone has been in Frazier's corner and the jerking around has come from above.

May he make the most of the opportunity.
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It's about time. Only a year or two late.
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section125 : 2/18/2021 6:15 am : link
In comment 15155924 adamg said:
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Cashman chimes in to say Clint had a hell of a year last season and should be very proud of it.

Kind of funny given that he was benched for the last three games of the ALDS with the Yanks' season on the line. And was even passed over in favor of Mike Ford for a critical pinch hit opportunity in Game 5.

Whatever. My perception has been that Boone has been in Frazier's corner and the jerking around has come from above.

May he make the most of the opportunity.
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It's about time. Only a year or two late.


No not really. He had the concussion which kept him out the previous season and when he did play his fielding was below little league quality(which I believe was caused by effects of the concussion).
I'm surprised Gardy hasn't been signed  
mfsd : 2/18/2021 7:46 am : link
He still seems a perfect fit as a 4th OF, still plays above average defense in LF and CF, he can still run, and he still offers necessary injury protection behind Hicks, Judge, Stanton, Frazier.

Add to that his vet leadership, seems like a no-brainer. Maybe he's holding out for more money, maybe he wants a chance to start somewhere.

Frazier can and should be the starting LF now, but should still be plenty of ABs for Gardy over the season
RE: I'm surprised Gardy hasn't been signed  
section125 : 2/18/2021 7:50 am : link
In comment 15155952 mfsd said:
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He still seems a perfect fit as a 4th OF, still plays above average defense in LF and CF, he can still run, and he still offers necessary injury protection behind Hicks, Judge, Stanton, Frazier.

Add to that his vet leadership, seems like a no-brainer. Maybe he's holding out for more money, maybe he wants a chance to start somewhere.

Frazier can and should be the starting LF now, but should still be plenty of ABs for Gardy over the season


I am too, but maybe Cashman has decided to move on. They have Tauchman and a couple other younger players for much cheaper contracts.

Yankees are just weird when they move on. Like with Tanaka, just crickets. No mention that they are moving on.
Yup, there were reports they haven’t even talked  
mfsd : 2/18/2021 7:52 am : link
to Gardner. Maybe they’re ready to move on without him, but seems odd.
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adamg : 2/18/2021 6:12 pm : link
In comment 15155932 section125 said:
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Cashman chimes in to say Clint had a hell of a year last season and should be very proud of it.

Kind of funny given that he was benched for the last three games of the ALDS with the Yanks' season on the line. And was even passed over in favor of Mike Ford for a critical pinch hit opportunity in Game 5.

Whatever. My perception has been that Boone has been in Frazier's corner and the jerking around has come from above.

May he make the most of the opportunity.
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It's about time. Only a year or two late.



No not really. He had the concussion which kept him out the previous season and when he did play his fielding was below little league quality(which I believe was caused by effects of the concussion).


True. His fielding looked a lot better last year.
Britton trashed German a bit  
adamg : 2/18/2021 6:14 pm : link
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“That’s tough question,” Britton said in a Zoom interview. “I don’t think he owes anything to me. I think it’s off the field stuff that he needs to take care of. Sometimes you don’t get to control who your teammates are, and that’s the situation. I don’t agree with what he did. I don’t think it has any place in the game or off the field at all.”

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Yeah Davidoff had an article  
section125 : 2/18/2021 6:54 pm : link
blasting German, too.

IDK, seems like piling on. He is a strange ranger, but despite what Davidoff says, he is a solid pitcher. It would be nice to see how ST plays out before the get rid of him.
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