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NFT: Covid Vaccine - 2nd dose. Oh man

GMAN4LIFE : 2/18/2021 8:56 am
Man is this second dose kicking my ass. Got the shot yesterday.

Was fine up until bed time. Couldnt sleep right, woke up with body aches and a mild fever. My wife felt the same way but my parents however feel perfectly fine. Another friend of mine ,around the same age, also feels the same. Almost exactly the same.

Any reasoning to older people feeling fine after the second shot but the semi younger crowd feeling like shit?
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RE: We got our 1st shot about a week and half ago  
Pete in MD : 2/19/2021 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15157398 VTChuck said:
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Pfizer for both of us. We are 69 and in NH.

Both of us had soreness at the injection site. My wife got some swelling and itching.

We have shot #2 in 2 1/2 weeks.

Process was very smooth in spite of a snowy day. National Guard administered the shots at an armory a few miles from home. Never left the car and we were back home in less than an hour.

I am somewhat concerned about the implanted transmitters in the vaccine, but I'm sure my tin foil hat will block the signals.

Tin foil won't work. You need one of these:
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/19/2021 6:13 pm : link
Love these posts of people getting shots into their arms. The sooner, the better. I think I speak for all when I want to go back to a somewhat normal life ASAP.
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Anakim : 2/19/2021 6:19 pm : link
In comment 15157442 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Love these posts of people getting shots into their arms. The sooner, the better. I think I speak for all when I want to go back to a somewhat normal life ASAP.


Wait, they were supposed to be in the arms?







Uh oh...
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Route 9 : 2/19/2021 11:25 pm : link
Got both.

My uncle got one and he said he feels worse than he did before. He is 70 years old. Same with my aunt on my father's side is even worse condition. Hope it's all it's cracked up to be and things get set right.
Early report from Israel is that the Pfizer vaccine  
bubba0825 : 2/21/2021 10:53 am : link
Is 90% effective at stopping transmission, great news. Here’s to drinking a beer at a sold out giants game
RE: Early report from Israel is that the Pfizer vaccine  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/21/2021 10:56 am : link
In comment 15158110 bubba0825 said:
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Is 90% effective at stopping transmission, great news. Here’s to drinking a beer at a sold out giants game


Fantastic news!
Got first Pfizer-BioNTech shot yesterday  
DC Gmen Fan : 2/21/2021 1:54 pm : link
Arm is a little sore today but nothing else. #2 scheduled in 3 weeks.
RE: Early report from Israel is that the Pfizer vaccine  
Danny Kanell : 2/21/2021 4:49 pm : link
In comment 15158110 bubba0825 said:
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Is 90% effective at stopping transmission, great news. Here’s to drinking a beer at a sold out giants game


That is great news.
Moderna second dose  
haper : 2/21/2021 5:53 pm : link
I'm 56, had soreness at the injection site and slightly achy later that night. Woke up tired and achy but fine after an hr. My brother-in-law (58) is also doing fine. But my sisters (57 and 58) had a different experience, one said it's like having a 'stay in bed' flu for 24 hrs and the other said it was the worse hangover she ever had.
On  
mitch300 : 2/22/2021 11:51 am : link
The news the their day, they had a report about having a lot of no shows for that vaccine. This is in California. They think one of the reasons is that people schedule multiple sites and never cancel. You might have a chance of waiting to almost the end of the day and go to injection site and see if they have any.
Got 2nd Pfizer shot 8 hrs ago - no effects at all yet  
PatersonPlank : 2/22/2021 7:15 pm : link
All good
RE: Got 2nd Pfizer shot 8 hrs ago - no effects at all yet  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/22/2021 7:20 pm : link
In comment 15159013 PatersonPlank said:
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All good


PP, good luck. From what I've heard, Pfizer second dose doesn't have the same punch as the second Moderna second dose. But it varies from person to person. Good luck. Hope you have no bad side effects.
Wife and I getting 1st Pfizer dose  
Bubba : 2/25/2021 6:56 am : link
today. Bought Pedialyte and Pepto just in case.
I just got my first dose a couple of hours ago. I want to say that  
Ira : 2/25/2021 2:21 pm : link
I'm very grateful to all of the health workers and volunteers who have been serving this country since this pandemic started. God bless them all.
Paterson...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/25/2021 3:07 pm : link
Update on how you're feeling?
Got the first Pfizer today at 5pm  
Danny Kanell : 2/25/2021 8:14 pm : link
So far so good. Got it at Stony Brook. Amazingly organized.
Got my first shot yesterday  
Dave in Hoboken : 2/25/2021 8:18 pm : link
and have felt some arm pain since a few hours after the shot. But it's not as bad as it was yesterday. Just some soreness, but no other symptoms and it feels alot better today.
RE: Got the first Pfizer today at 5pm  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/25/2021 8:27 pm : link
In comment 15161851 Danny Kanell said:
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So far so good. Got it at Stony Brook. Amazingly organized.


Awesome!
RE: Got my first shot yesterday  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/25/2021 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15161855 Dave in Hoboken said:
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and have felt some arm pain since a few hours after the shot. But it's not as bad as it was yesterday. Just some soreness, but no other symptoms and it feels alot better today.


Awesome! Get those shots into people's arms!
Finally got my first Pfizer shot today  
Bill L : 2/25/2021 8:53 pm : link
Unsanctioned but got it anyway. Not feeling guilty.
RE: Finally got my first Pfizer shot today  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/25/2021 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15161909 Bill L said:
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Unsanctioned but got it anyway. Not feeling guilty.


Bill. You deserve it!
RE: RE: Finally got my first Pfizer shot today  
Bill L : 2/25/2021 9:18 pm : link
In comment 15161915 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15161909 Bill L said:


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Unsanctioned but got it anyway. Not feeling guilty.



Bill. You deserve it!


Thanks. I actually could qualify to get an appointment now anyway outside of the work umbrella.

In fact I got an email from my health system portal. It was general but to me and it had terrifically horrible wording.

Basically it said, ‘as you know NYS is now allowing vaccination for all these nasty comorbidities that will kill you soon anyway....GOOD NEWS!!! (It literally said that). You qualify!!!!’

Lucky guy with the asthma, obesity, hypertension, etc, etc, etc...you get to have a vaccine now.

RE: Paterson...  
PatersonPlank : 2/26/2021 1:05 am : link
In comment 15161599 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Update on how you're feeling?


No issues at all, "right as rain" as they say.
Got my second dose of Pfizer last night around 6pm.  
Britt in VA : 2/26/2021 9:52 am : link
feeling okay as of this morning.
Glad you got a vaccine, Bill.  
Britt in VA : 2/26/2021 9:52 am : link
Thanks for keeping us updated throughout.
RE: Got my second dose of Pfizer last night around 6pm.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/26/2021 10:00 am : link
In comment 15162166 Britt in VA said:
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feeling okay as of this morning.


Good to hear!
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Danny Kanell : 2/26/2021 10:04 am : link
Pretty good bout of chills and headache this morning. Literally just came on about 9am. (16 hours after the shot). Of course I get a reaction to the first dose lol.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/26/2021 10:26 am : link
In comment 15162186 Danny Kanell said:
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Pretty good bout of chills and headache this morning. Literally just came on about 9am. (16 hours after the shot). Of course I get a reaction to the first dose lol.


Better than getting COVID. Feel better!
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Danny Kanell : 2/26/2021 10:32 am : link
In comment 15162232 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15162186 Danny Kanell said:


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Pretty good bout of chills and headache this morning. Literally just came on about 9am. (16 hours after the shot). Of course I get a reaction to the first dose lol.



Better than getting COVID. Feel better!


Yes sir. It's fine, I'm still working from home so I plan on doing the absolute bare minimum today and relaxing it away.
It’s cause  
Carl in CT : 2/26/2021 10:56 am : link
Older people have a weak immune system. You feel it cause your body is attacking the injection. That means you have a good immune system (not bad). Older people are not fighting the injection.
Mrs. and I got our second Moderna shots today  
NYerInMA : 2/26/2021 9:19 pm : link
Not expecting this weekend to be pleasant based on how we reacted to the first shot, but we'll see how it goes.
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Danny Kanell : 2/26/2021 10:35 pm : link
It was pretty weird. Couldn’t get warm all day and had a brutal headache. Then it just went away around 8pm. Hoping it stays this way.

I wonder how bad the 2nd shot will be now lol
Got the first shot on Wednesday at 11 AM.  
Dave in Hoboken : 2/26/2021 10:52 pm : link
About 3-4 hours after the shot, my arm started feeling quite sore. For the rest of the day, my arm got more and more as the day went on. Woke up the next day (yesterday), and it was still alittle sore, but nowhere near as sore as the previous day. As yesterday went on, the arm became less and less sore. Woke up today (Friday), and the arm is back to normal.

That is the only side-effect I suffered, thankfully. No headache or fever or anything like that.

I get my second shot exactly one month after I got my first shot; 3/24.
Got my second shot (Pfizer) Thursday at 6pm.  
Britt in VA : 2/27/2021 7:38 am : link
Yesterday morning, it was okay when I posted, but just felt a little off. Throughout the day yesterday, just different things at different times. A little achy here and there, occassional slight chills, so slight I couldn't tell if they were chills or it was just cold in my house (never felt inclined to layer up or anything), later in the evening achy legs and lymph nodes in my neck, etc... Just... off.

Hard to describe. Very strange. Went to bed at 8 just because I was tired of feeling off and slept to 6:30 this morning when my kids woke me up. Felt like a million bucks this morning. Made me realize that I felt pretty lousy yesterday but functional. But it didn't knock me on my ass or anything. Good luck everybody.
If I could describe the experience more simply...  
Britt in VA : 2/27/2021 7:49 am : link
it was like being sick without actually being sick. So imagine you have the sort of sickness that keeps you home from work. Sore throat, sniffles sneezes and coughs, aches and pains. Run of the mill "I'm calling in sick" sick.

But remove the sort throat, sniffles, sneezes and coughs, and just leave the aches and pains.

That's the best I can describe it.
Britt.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/27/2021 9:16 am : link
Glad you're feeling better! Yeah, second shot reactions vary.
RE: If I could describe the experience more simply...  
PatersonPlank : 2/27/2021 3:17 pm : link
In comment 15162811 Britt in VA said:
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it was like being sick without actually being sick. So imagine you have the sort of sickness that keeps you home from work. Sore throat, sniffles sneezes and coughs, aches and pains. Run of the mill "I'm calling in sick" sick.

But remove the sort throat, sniffles, sneezes and coughs, and just leave the aches and pains.

That's the best I can describe it.


Its funny. I posted on here that I felt fine after my 2nd Pfizer shot, but I was achy also. Especially in my legs and arms. I just chaulked it up to something else, but now thinking about it maybe it was the shot. It was minor so I just assumed it was nothing
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Danny Kanell : 2/27/2021 5:06 pm : link
I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.
Britt  
Danny Kanell : 2/27/2021 5:07 pm : link
That’s a good way to explain how I felt yesterday. Chills, headache, achy etc without the actual typical sick stuff.
RE: Britt  
Matt M. : 2/27/2021 5:16 pm : link
In comment 15163076 Danny Kanell said:
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That’s a good way to explain how I felt yesterday. Chills, headache, achy etc without the actual typical sick stuff.
This was me after the 1st dose, but a temp only around 99.5 and all for about 36 hours.

2nd dose was nothing more than very slight soreness in the arm for about 24 hours.

I had COVID in March 2020, so it fits with your friend's theory.
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Bill L : 2/27/2021 7:09 pm : link
In comment 15163075 Danny Kanell said:
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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.


How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/27/2021 7:11 pm : link
First shot, no side effects. Second shot...legs felt like I had run from the East Coast to the West Coast nonstop ala Forrest Gump, Haha. But that subsided the afternoon after the shot...considering the reactions colleagues had/reading some here, I consider myself lucky.
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Bill L : 2/27/2021 7:15 pm : link
In comment 15163111 Bill L said:
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In comment 15163075 Danny Kanell said:


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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.



How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?


Also, the symptoms people have are the same as in the trials and everyone in the trial was known to have no prior COVID.
Had my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday  
jlukes : 2/27/2021 7:46 pm : link
Very tired today a little achey. Chalking it up to having and auto immune disease so my body over reacts to everything
RE: Had my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/27/2021 7:52 pm : link
In comment 15163129 jlukes said:
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Very tired today a little achey. Chalking it up to having and auto immune disease so my body over reacts to everything


Feel better!
Had Pfizer 2nd shot yesterday  
US1 Giants : 2/27/2021 7:54 pm : link
Had a little soreness in my arm
but a bad night's sleep. Had a bad night's sleep for a couple of nights after the first shot. First shot gave me a hot spot (painful if touched or slept on) on my arm for a couple of days.
Same reaction from 2nd shot as 1st so far  
NYerInMA : 2/27/2021 10:20 pm : link
Fever, chills, headache, muscle aches, and fatigue. Slept most of the day today and probably will again tomorrow.
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Danny Kanell : 2/27/2021 11:32 pm : link
In comment 15163111 Bill L said:
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In comment 15163075 Danny Kanell said:


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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.



How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?


No idea
RE: How do you explain the placebo group in the trials  
JohnF : 2/28/2021 11:51 am : link
In comment 15163111 Bill L said:
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In comment 15163075 Danny Kanell said:


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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.



How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?


Did the study take into account which subjects had allergies and which did not? There are some discussions about having allergies might mean you have a more active immune system, which would be a good thing. Breaking down the type of allergy might also be useful.

Do Allergies Protect Us? - ( New Window )
Here's an interesting article from the US National Library of Medicine  
JohnF : 2/28/2021 12:04 pm : link
Allergy and Aging: An Old/New Emerging Health Issue

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The aging process impacts on body functions at the molecular, cellular and systemic levels, leading to loss of homeostasis, decreased ability to respond to extrinsic and intrinsic challenges, and increased susceptibility to chronic inflammatory diseases, resulting in senescence...

In particular, the immune system is deeply remodeled during aging. Several mechanisms of both innate and adaptive immunity undergo age-related changes, configuring the so-called immunosenescence. Many aspects of immune function decline with aging, while others become more active....

This immune dysregulation provides the background for the development of the increased susceptibility to infections and autoimmune diseases, neoplasias, metabolic diseases, osteoporosis, neurological disorders, as well as to allergic inflammation.


There is a whole section on respiratory tract modifications which is interesting as well. The changes from ageing might be a factor in why Covid is so deadly to populations 70 and older (though I suspect damage caused by smoking and air quality is likely a major factor here).
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