Man is this second dose kicking my ass. Got the shot yesterday.
Was fine up until bed time. Couldnt sleep right, woke up with body aches and a mild fever. My wife felt the same way but my parents however feel perfectly fine. Another friend of mine ,around the same age, also feels the same. Almost exactly the same.
Any reasoning to older people feeling fine after the second shot but the semi younger crowd feeling like shit?
I'm getting my first shot next Thursday at Stony Brook. I believe it's the Pfizer one. So I'll definitely be following this thread.
Feel better!
My 2nd Shingles shot kicked my butt. Woke up a bit feverish took a couple aspirin and in 30 minutes all was well.
Have their been any warnings on using aspirin/Tylenol etc after the covid shots? (I think MDs say use Tylenol for relief from vaccines, but not sure).
In fact, an acquaintance who was hospitalized in the spring actually declined to take the 2nd Pfizer shot because the first one really hit him hard, and has legitimate concerns about the follow-up dose.
My 2nd Shingles shot kicked my butt. Woke up a bit feverish took a couple aspirin and in 30 minutes all was well.
Have their been any warnings on using aspirin/Tylenol etc after the covid shots? (I think MDs say use Tylenol for relief from vaccines, but not sure).
MD's told me to take tyelonol only if i had the symptoms. so i took it, because i had the symptoms hahaha
Your mileage may vary.
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bag of results from the people I know.
My 2nd Shingles shot kicked my butt. Woke up a bit feverish took a couple aspirin and in 30 minutes all was well.
Have their been any warnings on using aspirin/Tylenol etc after the covid shots? (I think MDs say use Tylenol for relief from vaccines, but not sure).
MD's told me to take tyelonol only if i had the symptoms. so i took it, because i had the symptoms hahaha
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I had none of them, except extreme fatigue in the legs the following morning. I felt like I had run 5 marathons in 5 consecutive days. By around 5 PM Friday, it was gone.
Thankful I got the shots.
*But* if you broke the data down into >=55 years old versus <55 years old, the older age group had many fewer side effects. That sounds like what people here are saying, comparing themselves to their parents).
The reasons aren't clear, but older people do have decreased ability to make immune responses and it may be that they are prone to less inflammation from the vaccine stimulus. Or, as we joke about it here (but perhaps there is some truth to it) old people always have headaches, muscles aches and are tired so they don't know they're having a vaccine side effect. It is worth pointing out that Shringrix seems to kick everybody's ass, so old people are not always without side effects.
FWIW, if you look at the COVID vaccine clinical data, the placebo group had almost as much frequency of the same side effects, so it might just be the other stuff, including the physical part of injection itself, that goes along with the mRNA that is causing many of the side effects.
And, my workplace still has not allowed us to get vaccinated, so I am extremely jealous of all of you.
First one I didn't feel any different whatsoever.
This one knocked me on my ass when I got up this morning. I'm achy everywhere
I know few people who had any problem with first shot other than a sore arm that subsides in a day. Good luck.
There's nothing to be nervous about. Even if you do get knocked on your ass for a day, it's plenty worth it.
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For a while. Cut off for some reason
I am 39, and had my first shot yesterday (Pfizer). Was a little tired last night and my arm is sore near the injection site, but otherwise I feel normal.
Best of luck to the OP!
1. You’re NOT sick it’s a reaction
2. Symptoms subside within 36 hours usually.
Small price to pay to get us back to “normal”
Bravo to all for getting your shots. Not a given in our society
The weaker immune response is why us old guys get a higher dose of seasonal flu vaccine. One of the major reasons for death with Covid is a very robust cascade in the immune response that proceeds out of control. But once again, understand that even people in any group are individuals each with their own immune response.
Just grateful to be receiving the vaccine shots.
Congrats!
how did you get it so soon? Are you a real old guy? lol
Now, being an anxious fellow to begin with, that was a long 15 minutes, Haha.
Now, being an anxious fellow to begin with, that was a long 15 minutes, Haha.
I’m a hypochondriac to begin with so I’m bound to get somatic symptoms.
“Are you feeling dizzy or lightheaded?”
“Actually, now that you mention it...”
Now the seconded shot, we shall see. I am OLD so that might help. I'd rather be younger and have the reaction.
Then I can give you as answer...Mine was the Moderna.
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how did you get it so soon? Are you a real old guy? lol
no but my father is in the middle of a battle with lymphoma and i guess they decided to give it to me in the car while i was there. lucky i guess
2nd shot, she felt a little fatigue day of. Came home, and was very tired with a headache the day after. She slept a bunch and woke up the next day fine.
As for me, I’m 41 with a couple of the high risk conditions (meds for high blood pressure and a bit overweight). However, since my bank job is not client facing and we are working remotely until April at least, I’m not eligible for the vaccine.
But for me, as soon as I am eligible, I would like the vaccine. Just being able to take the wife to a movie without the fear of this virus would be worth it.
(what a joke)
(what a joke)
Agreed. I totally agree with the idea of medical professionals and older people going first. They are most at risk. I get that. But some of the other criteria is difficult to comprehend and the info isn’t clear on why the criteria is that way.
I did register on my area’s health district web site for more updates when my lane will become open, so we’ll see.
What we were told by one of the nurses who gave her the shot, anecdotally there was talk that if you had Covid before (or if you had it and never knew it) they've seen those people have a stronger reaction to the shots. Something to keep in mind.
As soon as I can get it, I'll be there. And as I recounted on BBI last year, I was sick as a dog in March for 2 weeks, knocked my ass with low fever and headache/tired. I got the Covid test (which was near impossible to get at the time) and the jackass lost it so I never got confirmation if I had it or not (flu test was negative) but tested negative for antibodies a few months later. I get the flu shot every year with almost no reaction other than a sore arm. I'm curious if the vaccine will knock me down a bit and if so, and that nurse is right, maybe I'll get my confirmation it was Covid a year later.
57 in April
I read today that the Pfizer first shot/dose is considered 92%+ effective WITHOUT the second shot/dose.
So you did want that needle stuck into your veins? Haha. :-)
You should be. All those I know who had side-effects said they dissipated in approximately 24-36 hours.
I had qualms for sure, considering I think it's absurd that I got shots before my folks, but they wanted us to get it so...what can one do?
I had qualms for sure, considering I think it's absurd that I got shots before my folks, but they wanted us to get it so...what can one do?
I don’t begrudge anyone. Just being curious (or nosy).
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I was deemed 'essential', as I work for law enforcement.
I had qualms for sure, considering I think it's absurd that I got shots before my folks, but they wanted us to get it so...what can one do?
I don’t begrudge anyone. Just being curious (or nosy).
Although I did say before, that I was jealous.
My own situation is weird. It’s looking more and more like our exclusion from being eligible is coming from pretty close to the Executive Office. I’m not sure the rationale. Would it be bad optics if state employees got vaccinated before phase 2?
I work for a company that handles medical oxygen cylinders and puts them in hospitals, nursing homes, ambulance companies every day so we were in phase 1a for PA. We didn't know we were even in 1A as my company is based in NY and we're the only location in PA so we didn't look into it as much as we should have at first but the VA Hospital told our driver the one day that we should get it immediately
No reaction to either one.
My sister also no reaction.
I'm sure that by this time next year, we will know the reason why.
It’s not like I would say “ I overheard a Kaiser permanente conference call
And the bigwig said they aren’t following up on who is essential and who is not”
Good luck! Let us know how you feel.
By the time I am eligible it should be available to all, hopefully.
Those that are eligible, get it, make no excuses or feel bad that you are not "older" yet. You would not be eligible to receive it if you weren't in a situation where you could get the virus more easily or pass it on to those you are helping or work with.
Besides we need some more guinea pigs for testing!
Thought process is to maybe just get everyone a single dose and then once all are inoculated then get the 2nd dose out.. Studies are out of Canada and Israel and back up FDA research. Only question is actual length of effectiveness on the single dose.
92% - that is highly effective
What do you think BillL
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I had my first Moderna shot earlier this month. Had a sore arm and some fatigue and chills that lasted about a day. Going back for my second in early March.
As far as getting the vaccine already, Ft. Meade is offering it to military and civilian employees working at the agency because the DoD deemed them mission essential workers. Very efficient process from what I saw.
TIA
As for which vaccine has more or less side effects, the studies show that as far as moderate to more severe side effects, Moderna had something like 2 1/2% vs Pfizer 1.50%. That does not include arm pain, headache and chills. Bottom line, both have relatively minor side effects. Oh, and you generally do not get to choose which you get.
As for which vaccine has more or less side effects, the studies show that as far as moderate to more severe side effects, Moderna had something like 2 1/2% vs Pfizer 1.50%. That does not include arm pain, headache and chills. Bottom line, both have relatively minor side effects. Oh, and you generally do not get to choose which you get.
Thanks Red! Good info here.
As for which vaccine has more or less side effects, the studies show that as far as moderate to more severe side effects, Moderna had something like 2 1/2% vs Pfizer 1.50%. That does not include arm pain, headache and chills. Bottom line, both have relatively minor side effects. Oh, and you generally do not get to choose which you get.
While I trust the trials, 92% vs 94%, but getting more vaccines out more quickly would be far more effective in that more people would be immune in 1/2 the time thereby effectively doubling "herd immunity." If you cut the transmission rates that quickly chances are the virus is effectively muted. More studies would be needed to confirm how long the single dose is effective...
I have no doubt that people will need to get these annually much in the same way flu vaccines are required annually. I am wondering if the covid vaccine is able to be included in the flu vaccine so that only a single vaccine is needed(most flu vaccines have anti-virals to 3 or 4 strains in each dose).
as i said before, 1 day of feeling like shit is better than 2 months in the hospital(my moms cousin has covid and has been in the hospital since December)
sorry, stuff like this shouldn't be that hard.
Cannot fault you....People smarter than me will figure it out
sorry, stuff like this shouldn't be that hard.
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she is registered at like 8-10 places and with the county and can't get a damn appt.
sorry, stuff like this shouldn't be that hard.
Welcome to Murphyville. This state sucks on so many levels.
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I've been following a Long Island vaccination Facebook page since I got my appointment (Really just to hear people's experiences, etc).
People keep posting that if you keep calling the hotline, eventually appointments pop up. 833-697-4829. They just say to call relentlessly if need be, but eventually you'll get lucky.
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Anyone have suggestions? It's been a real struggle getting her one.
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I've been following a Long Island vaccination Facebook page since I got my appointment (Really just to hear people's experiences, etc).
People keep posting that if you keep calling the hotline, eventually appointments pop up. 833-697-4829. They just say to call relentlessly if need be, but eventually you'll get lucky.
Thanks Danny!
Anyone else have a suggestion?
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Both of us had soreness at the injection site. My wife got some swelling and itching.
We have shot #2 in 2 1/2 weeks.
Process was very smooth in spite of a snowy day. National Guard administered the shots at an armory a few miles from home. Never left the car and we were back home in less than an hour.
I am somewhat concerned about the implanted transmitters in the vaccine, but I'm sure my tin foil hat will block the signals.
Both of us had soreness at the injection site. My wife got some swelling and itching.
We have shot #2 in 2 1/2 weeks.
Process was very smooth in spite of a snowy day. National Guard administered the shots at an armory a few miles from home. Never left the car and we were back home in less than an hour.
I am somewhat concerned about the implanted transmitters in the vaccine, but I'm sure my tin foil hat will block the signals.
Tin foil won't work. You need one of these:
Wait, they were supposed to be in the arms?
Uh oh...
My uncle got one and he said he feels worse than he did before. He is 70 years old. Same with my aunt on my father's side is even worse condition. Hope it's all it's cracked up to be and things get set right.
Fantastic news!
That is great news.
PP, good luck. From what I've heard, Pfizer second dose doesn't have the same punch as the second Moderna second dose. But it varies from person to person. Good luck. Hope you have no bad side effects.
Awesome!
Awesome! Get those shots into people's arms!
Bill. You deserve it!
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Unsanctioned but got it anyway. Not feeling guilty.
Bill. You deserve it!
Thanks. I actually could qualify to get an appointment now anyway outside of the work umbrella.
In fact I got an email from my health system portal. It was general but to me and it had terrifically horrible wording.
Basically it said, ‘as you know NYS is now allowing vaccination for all these nasty comorbidities that will kill you soon anyway....GOOD NEWS!!! (It literally said that). You qualify!!!!’
Lucky guy with the asthma, obesity, hypertension, etc, etc, etc...you get to have a vaccine now.
No issues at all, "right as rain" as they say.
Good to hear!
Better than getting COVID. Feel better!
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Pretty good bout of chills and headache this morning. Literally just came on about 9am. (16 hours after the shot). Of course I get a reaction to the first dose lol.
Better than getting COVID. Feel better!
Yes sir. It's fine, I'm still working from home so I plan on doing the absolute bare minimum today and relaxing it away.
I wonder how bad the 2nd shot will be now lol
That is the only side-effect I suffered, thankfully. No headache or fever or anything like that.
I get my second shot exactly one month after I got my first shot; 3/24.
Hard to describe. Very strange. Went to bed at 8 just because I was tired of feeling off and slept to 6:30 this morning when my kids woke me up. Felt like a million bucks this morning. Made me realize that I felt pretty lousy yesterday but functional. But it didn't knock me on my ass or anything. Good luck everybody.
But remove the sort throat, sniffles, sneezes and coughs, and just leave the aches and pains.
That's the best I can describe it.
But remove the sort throat, sniffles, sneezes and coughs, and just leave the aches and pains.
That's the best I can describe it.
Its funny. I posted on here that I felt fine after my 2nd Pfizer shot, but I was achy also. Especially in my legs and arms. I just chaulked it up to something else, but now thinking about it maybe it was the shot. It was minor so I just assumed it was nothing
2nd dose was nothing more than very slight soreness in the arm for about 24 hours.
I had COVID in March 2020, so it fits with your friend's theory.
How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?
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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.
How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?
Also, the symptoms people have are the same as in the trials and everyone in the trial was known to have no prior COVID.
Feel better!
but a bad night's sleep. Had a bad night's sleep for a couple of nights after the first shot. First shot gave me a hot spot (painful if touched or slept on) on my arm for a couple of days.
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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.
How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?
No idea
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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.
How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?
Did the study take into account which subjects had allergies and which did not? There are some discussions about having allergies might mean you have a more active immune system, which would be a good thing. Breaking down the type of allergy might also be useful.
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In particular, the immune system is deeply remodeled during aging. Several mechanisms of both innate and adaptive immunity undergo age-related changes, configuring the so-called immunosenescence. Many aspects of immune function decline with aging, while others become more active....
This immune dysregulation provides the background for the development of the increased susceptibility to infections and autoimmune diseases, neoplasias, metabolic diseases, osteoporosis, neurological disorders, as well as to allergic inflammation.
There is a whole section on respiratory tract modifications which is interesting as well. The changes from ageing might be a factor in why Covid is so deadly to populations 70 and older (though I suspect damage caused by smoking and air quality is likely a major factor here).