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NFT: Covid Vaccine - 2nd dose. Oh man

GMAN4LIFE : 2/18/2021 8:56 am
Man is this second dose kicking my ass. Got the shot yesterday.

Was fine up until bed time. Couldnt sleep right, woke up with body aches and a mild fever. My wife felt the same way but my parents however feel perfectly fine. Another friend of mine ,around the same age, also feels the same. Almost exactly the same.

Any reasoning to older people feeling fine after the second shot but the semi younger crowd feeling like shit?
Which vaccine did you take?  
Grey Pilgrim : 2/18/2021 8:58 am : link
Just wondering...
Oh and i took the moderna shot  
GMAN4LIFE : 2/18/2021 9:01 am : link
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My colleague at work, a senior, said the 2nd shot was tough  
BillT : 2/18/2021 9:02 am : link
So I’m not sure that’s true.
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Danny Kanell : 2/18/2021 9:03 am : link
My buddy works for Northwell and he said the 2nd Moderna shot kicked his ass too. Similar to what you're experiencing.

I'm getting my first shot next Thursday at Stony Brook. I believe it's the Pfizer one. So I'll definitely be following this thread.

Feel better!
mixed reviews  
jestersdead : 2/18/2021 9:04 am : link
Ive read mixed results on the second shot. There is an article in the athletic that discusses it as being a rude awakening. My mom, 70 had her 2nd shot last week and didn't mention any of the symptoms. My dad goes for his 2nd shot next week, it will be interesting to see if he has any symptoms others have reported
Interesting.  
Ryan in Albany : 2/18/2021 9:08 am : link
My Nurse practitioner sister received the Moderna vaccine. The first one is what kicked her ass. Second was no problem for her. My other sister also received the Moderna. First shot, no problem...has yet to receive the second.
i think its something like 70% feel...  
Italianju : 2/18/2021 9:09 am : link
like crap after the second shot. My parents are late sixties and just got it last week, my dad felt perfectly fine but my mom had the flu like symptoms and all that. Im not sure age really has much to do with it, had a couple friends late thirties get it and again one felt perfectly fine, the other felt pretty crappy.
Definitely a mixed  
section125 : 2/18/2021 9:09 am : link
bag of results from the people I know.

My 2nd Shingles shot kicked my butt. Woke up a bit feverish took a couple aspirin and in 30 minutes all was well.

Have their been any warnings on using aspirin/Tylenol etc after the covid shots? (I think MDs say use Tylenol for relief from vaccines, but not sure).
By any chance were you positive for antibodies?  
regulator : 2/18/2021 9:11 am : link
Several people I know who were positive (earlier Covid case, either diagnosed, or asymptomatic) reported the 2nd round of the Pfizer really kicked their ass. Anecdotal, but it makes sense considering even a mRNA vaccine will elicit an immune response. Don’t know anyone who fit that same bill on the Moderna vax, but no reason to believe it was any different.

In fact, an acquaintance who was hospitalized in the spring actually declined to take the 2nd Pfizer shot because the first one really hit him hard, and has legitimate concerns about the follow-up dose.
I was able to  
Semipro Lineman : 2/18/2021 9:12 am : link
schedule a vaccine appointment through the VA and will get it in a few weeks. Sad to said, having a vaccine shot kick from the military kick my ass would be a familiar feeling
RE: Definitely a mixed  
GMAN4LIFE : 2/18/2021 9:12 am : link
In comment 15156008 section125 said:
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bag of results from the people I know.

My 2nd Shingles shot kicked my butt. Woke up a bit feverish took a couple aspirin and in 30 minutes all was well.

Have their been any warnings on using aspirin/Tylenol etc after the covid shots? (I think MDs say use Tylenol for relief from vaccines, but not sure).


MD's told me to take tyelonol only if i had the symptoms. so i took it, because i had the symptoms hahaha
I got lucky as hell  
Bear vs Shark : 2/18/2021 9:15 am : link
Didn't really have any symptoms after the 2nd Moderna.
had my first Moderna shot - no side effects whatsoever -  
Del Shofner : 2/18/2021 9:16 am : link
second shot coming up on March 10, and I've set that day and the next aside in case I have that second shot reaction. Sounds like a real possibility.
I got  
Pete in MD : 2/18/2021 9:18 am : link
my 2nd yesterday (Moderna). Woke up in the middle of the night feeling like crap and had to vomit. I feel better this morning.
My wife got Moderna and was knocked on her butt for a day  
Heisenberg : 2/18/2021 9:19 am : link
My dad (75) got Pfizer and had zero side effects.

Your mileage may vary.
RE: RE: Definitely a mixed  
section125 : 2/18/2021 9:21 am : link
In comment 15156012 GMAN4LIFE said:
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In comment 15156008 section125 said:


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bag of results from the people I know.

My 2nd Shingles shot kicked my butt. Woke up a bit feverish took a couple aspirin and in 30 minutes all was well.

Have their been any warnings on using aspirin/Tylenol etc after the covid shots? (I think MDs say use Tylenol for relief from vaccines, but not sure).



MD's told me to take tyelonol only if i had the symptoms. so i took it, because i had the symptoms hahaha


TY
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2021 9:22 am : link
Got second Moderna shot a week ago ago. I was terrified based on the reactions some colleagues had...fever, chills, headache, nausea, etc.

I had none of them, except extreme fatigue in the legs the following morning. I felt like I had run 5 marathons in 5 consecutive days. By around 5 PM Friday, it was gone.

Thankful I got the shots.
Got the 2nd  
TommyWiseau : 2/18/2021 9:38 am : link
shot and was knocked on my ass. Had to go to work and could not even function
There's a lot of variabilty between individuals  
Bill L : 2/18/2021 9:38 am : link
Clinical trials for both Pfizer and Moderna showed that about 60% of people had some sort of side effect (the top 3, I believe) were headaches, myalgia, fatigue.

*But* if you broke the data down into >=55 years old versus <55 years old, the older age group had many fewer side effects. That sounds like what people here are saying, comparing themselves to their parents).

The reasons aren't clear, but older people do have decreased ability to make immune responses and it may be that they are prone to less inflammation from the vaccine stimulus. Or, as we joke about it here (but perhaps there is some truth to it) old people always have headaches, muscles aches and are tired so they don't know they're having a vaccine side effect. It is worth pointing out that Shringrix seems to kick everybody's ass, so old people are not always without side effects.

FWIW, if you look at the COVID vaccine clinical data, the placebo group had almost as much frequency of the same side effects, so it might just be the other stuff, including the physical part of injection itself, that goes along with the mRNA that is causing many of the side effects.

And, my workplace still has not allowed us to get vaccinated, so I am extremely jealous of all of you.
My parents took the second dose  
Essex : 2/18/2021 9:40 am : link
my mom got sick from it but my dad was totally fine. My mom was sick for a few hours with chills and aches, but it did subside pretty quickly. Overall, though, a few hours of discomfort is better than having symptoms or worse from Covid.
Keep in mind, the side effects  
DC Gmen Fan : 2/18/2021 9:42 am : link
are most likely a result of an immune response. Generally, younger, healthier people will probably have a stronger immune response.
Getting my first dose in a couple of hours  
Anakim : 2/18/2021 9:44 am : link
A bit nervous about it. Sounds like the side-effects can be acute.
I got my 2nd dose  
MookGiants : 2/18/2021 9:45 am : link
of Moderna yesterday as well.

First one I didn't feel any different whatsoever.

This one knocked me on my ass when I got up this morning. I'm achy everywhere
RE: Getting my first dose in a couple of hours  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2021 9:46 am : link
In comment 15156050 Anakim said:
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A bit nervous about it. Sounds like the side-effects can be acute.


I know few people who had any problem with first shot other than a sore arm that subsides in a day. Good luck.
As with the virus itself, it seems to vary greatly person to person  
Matt M. : 2/18/2021 9:47 am : link
regardless of age, prior infection, etc. My 102 year old grandmother, my aunt, and uncle all got their 2nd dose this week and were perfectly fine outside a little soreness in the arm. Same for my 70+ boss and her husband. Same for me. The first dose hade a larger effect on me, but still not terrible.
RE: Getting my first dose in a couple of hours  
MookGiants : 2/18/2021 9:47 am : link
In comment 15156050 Anakim said:
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A bit nervous about it. Sounds like the side-effects can be acute.


There's nothing to be nervous about. Even if you do get knocked on your ass for a day, it's plenty worth it.
May not  
KDavies : 2/18/2021 9:47 am : link
Even need 2nd dose of Pfizer
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RE: May not  
KDavies : 2/18/2021 9:49 am : link
In comment 15156060 KDavies said:
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Even need 2nd dose of Pfizer Link - ( New Window )


For a while. Cut off for some reason
my understanding re: the 2nd dose  
Rick Morehouse : 2/18/2021 9:53 am : link
is that younger people, due to their more robust immune systems, show a stronger reaction to the second shot. I could be way off, though and am no expert.

I am 39, and had my first shot yesterday (Pfizer). Was a little tired last night and my arm is sore near the injection site, but otherwise I feel normal.

Best of luck to the OP!

My wife is 54 and the second shot was horrible for her..  
rnargi : 2/18/2021 9:55 am : link
spiked a fever of 102.6 and was down for 36 hours. It was horrible.
2nd dose Maderna yesterday  
hammock man : 2/18/2021 9:55 am : link
luckily no reaction to either shot---yet.
2nd Pfizer Shot Day Before Yesterday  
Samiam : 2/18/2021 10:03 am : link
Wrong side of 70 years old. No reaction to the 1st shot 3 weeks ago and slight shoulder pain at injection spot. Took that shot early morning. Took the 2nd shot on Tuesday late in the afternoon. Only reaction on Tuesday was fatigue but that’s how I usually feel at night. Woke up Wednesday feeling like I had been in a fight with Mike Tyson. That lasted until lunch and I began to feel better little by little. Woke up today, Thursday, feeling fine.
could it  
totowa_gman : 2/18/2021 10:05 am : link
possibly be due to the fact that this is an experimental treatment and that it was tested for 3 months? Currently, you are the experiment for others so please report your symptoms.
Had second dose of pfizer  
Big Al : 2/18/2021 10:22 am : link
two days ago. Nothing. Not even a sore shoulder that I had overnight after first dose.
As a pharmacist  
Dave on the UWS : 2/18/2021 10:23 am : link
( who had the same reaction you guys are having )remember
1. You’re NOT sick it’s a reaction
2. Symptoms subside within 36 hours usually.
Small price to pay to get us back to “normal”
Bravo to all for getting your shots. Not a given in our society
it's really heartening  
LG in NYC : 2/18/2021 10:31 am : link
to hear all of you getting the vaccine... I presume i am months away from being eligible but between BBI and my personal network, lots of vaccine stories going around which is good!
What Bill L and Rick Morehouse said.  
River Mike : 2/18/2021 10:31 am : link
First, the response is very individual. But be aware that many of the symptoms you have from any viral infection are due less from the virus itself than from the body's immune response to it, fever, inflammation, etc. So, while reactions are individual, when considering groups, older people tend to have a weaker immune response, so on the whole that may be manifested in fewer symptoms. And while the vaccine is not itself a virus, it does stimulate an immune response perhaps against the mrna and certainly the resultant protein

The weaker immune response is why us old guys get a higher dose of seasonal flu vaccine. One of the major reasons for death with Covid is a very robust cascade in the immune response that proceeds out of control. But once again, understand that even people in any group are individuals each with their own immune response.
the younger you are the more reaction you get from your stronger  
gtt350 : 2/18/2021 10:33 am : link
immune system. older adults have milder reactions, basically a sore arm for a day or two. Be thankful you got those reactions it means the vaccine is working as is your body.
Got my 1st Shot Monday.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 2/18/2021 10:42 am : link
Arm soreness is subsiding this morning. Actually more tender than sore now. Had the Moderna vaccine. As for the 2nd dose, if I get knocked on my ass for a day or 2, bring it on. Small price to pay for the overall benefit. Statistics are showing that Moderna has about double the percentage of side effects than Pfizer but still only single digit percentages (excluding the relatively minor aches, headaches, low grade fever). May be due to the fact that Moderna vaccine is triple the dosage of Pfizer and they are both RNA vaccines. It will be interesting to see if Moderna lowers dosage in the future as they are already testing lower dosages to see how it affects efficacy.
2nd dose yesterday  
emcca005 : 2/18/2021 10:42 am : link
as well, no side effects other than the sore shoulder. My MIL was basically in bed for 24 plus hours straight after hers, we both got Moderna.
2nd dose  
NJBlueTuna : 2/18/2021 10:49 am : link
For younger people, especially, often has symptoms of chills fever fatigue and aches for 24-36 hours as you are exhibiting a strong immune response as your body was now conditioned/trained to identify the spike protein (unique to Covid) via the 1st dose. After the second dose, your body is now ready to unleash a full antibody and T and B “killer”(that’s a good thing) Arsenal against the foreign invader your body now recognizes. This is a GOOD thing and a sign of a healthy strong immune system which is stronger in younger people. Ie, you get fever as your body is literally raising its temp to burn out the virus. You get aches and fatigue bc a strong immune system ramp up is exhausting on the body.

First Moderna shot gave me a 101 degree fever  
NYerInMA : 2/18/2021 10:56 am : link
chills, and soreness for a couple days. I'm 39 so I expected to have a reaction. Getting my second shot a week from tomorrow so we'll see how it goes.
Second Moderna vaccine dose scheduled for next Friday  
Rick in Dallas : 2/18/2021 10:58 am : link
no reaction at all to my first vaccine dose.
Just grateful to be receiving the vaccine shots.
Good luck all.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2021 11:03 am : link
Second shot seems to have different reactions for all but it sure beats COVID.
Hello from observation!  
Anakim : 2/18/2021 11:19 am : link
Just got my first shot. Moderna
Can  
Pete in MD : 2/18/2021 11:26 am : link
everyone feel the government mind control kicking in? lol
RE: Hello from observation!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2021 11:28 am : link
In comment 15156171 Anakim said:
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Just got my first shot. Moderna


Congrats!
RE: Oh and i took the moderna shot  
EricJ : 2/18/2021 11:31 am : link
In comment 15156002 GMAN4LIFE said:
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how did you get it so soon? Are you a real old guy? lol
Hahaha. 'The observation'.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2021 11:32 am : link
I remember, after first shot, a nurse saying 'Now wait over there for 15 minutes. We need to observe you.' I was completely taken aback & responded 'Observe me for what?' She replied 'To see if you have any adverse reactions'.

Now, being an anxious fellow to begin with, that was a long 15 minutes, Haha.
RE: Hahaha. 'The observation'.  
Anakim : 2/18/2021 11:37 am : link
In comment 15156187 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I remember, after first shot, a nurse saying 'Now wait over there for 15 minutes. We need to observe you.' I was completely taken aback & responded 'Observe me for what?' She replied 'To see if you have any adverse reactions'.

Now, being an anxious fellow to begin with, that was a long 15 minutes, Haha.


I’m a hypochondriac to begin with so I’m bound to get somatic symptoms.

“Are you feeling dizzy or lightheaded?”

“Actually, now that you mention it...”
Received my second vaccination on Monday.  
Giant John : 2/18/2021 11:46 am : link
Pfizer. First shot had chills in the evening. Woke up fine. Second shot was fine with no reaction that I could feel. Good luck with this to all.
Got my Moderna Yesterday  
BobA : 2/18/2021 11:50 am : link
Signed up for the VA. Went to Castle Pt. VA Hospital. They had a Walk-in for those enrolled. Got the Shot in 10 mins waited 15 and walked out. Just soreness so far.

Now the seconded shot, we shall see. I am OLD so that might help. I'd rather be younger and have the reaction.
Got my second Moderna Shot  
NDMedics : 2/18/2021 12:17 pm : link
on the 2nd, made me a little sore at the injection site and a little groggy later that evening. Well worth it if you can get it.
Neither bothered me much  
Alan W : 2/18/2021 12:27 pm : link
and I'm 86.
I don't know yet  
Carson53 : 2/18/2021 12:41 pm : link
I'll found out in a few weeks on the 2nd shot.
Then I can give you as answer...Mine was the Moderna.
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GMAN4LIFE : 2/18/2021 12:45 pm : link
In comment 15156184 EricJ said:
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how did you get it so soon? Are you a real old guy? lol


no but my father is in the middle of a battle with lymphoma and i guess they decided to give it to me in the car while i was there. lucky i guess
Wife got both shots of Moderna, she’s 37 and works in a mental hospita  
PetesHereNow : 2/18/2021 1:11 pm : link
1st shot, she had some arm tenderness the day of and the day after.

2nd shot, she felt a little fatigue day of. Came home, and was very tired with a headache the day after. She slept a bunch and woke up the next day fine.

As for me, I’m 41 with a couple of the high risk conditions (meds for high blood pressure and a bit overweight). However, since my bank job is not client facing and we are working remotely until April at least, I’m not eligible for the vaccine.

But for me, as soon as I am eligible, I would like the vaccine. Just being able to take the wife to a movie without the fear of this virus would be worth it.
If your body is generating an immune response  
BH28 : 2/18/2021 1:19 pm : link
that means the vaccine is working and you are creating antibodies against covid.
Just take up smoking  
LG in NYC : 2/18/2021 1:20 pm : link
in NJ you'll get bumped to the front of the line!
(what a joke)
RE: Just take up smoking  
PetesHereNow : 2/18/2021 1:56 pm : link
In comment 15156374 LG in NYC said:
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in NJ you'll get bumped to the front of the line!
(what a joke)


Agreed. I totally agree with the idea of medical professionals and older people going first. They are most at risk. I get that. But some of the other criteria is difficult to comprehend and the info isn’t clear on why the criteria is that way.

I did register on my area’s health district web site for more updates when my lane will become open, so we’ll see.
I'm phase 2  
Matt in SGS : 2/18/2021 2:08 pm : link
which means I'll get my shot sometime in 2025, though it's kind of a free for all in NJ. My wife got Moderna a few weeks back and her 2nd shot is on Monday. She had a headache and was tired for an evening but that was it.

What we were told by one of the nurses who gave her the shot, anecdotally there was talk that if you had Covid before (or if you had it and never knew it) they've seen those people have a stronger reaction to the shots. Something to keep in mind.

As soon as I can get it, I'll be there. And as I recounted on BBI last year, I was sick as a dog in March for 2 weeks, knocked my ass with low fever and headache/tired. I got the Covid test (which was near impossible to get at the time) and the jackass lost it so I never got confirmation if I had it or not (flu test was negative) but tested negative for antibodies a few months later. I get the flu shot every year with almost no reaction other than a sore arm. I'm curious if the vaccine will knock me down a bit and if so, and that nurse is right, maybe I'll get my confirmation it was Covid a year later.

Got my first moderna today  
Payasdaddy : 2/18/2021 2:18 pm : link
Nothing yet but it only been two hours
57 in April
RE: Had second dose of pfizer  
bw in dc : 2/18/2021 2:49 pm : link
In comment 15156094 Big Al said:
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two days ago. Nothing. Not even a sore shoulder that I had overnight after first dose.


I read today that the Pfizer first shot/dose is considered 92%+ effective WITHOUT the second shot/dose.
Got my first shot-Moderna,on Monday  
TheMick7 : 2/18/2021 3:38 pm : link
Sore shoulder for 48 hours,otherwise okay. Get my second in March(I'm 67)!
Wife got second Pfizer shot Tuesday  
torrey : 2/18/2021 3:44 pm : link
Since she had a delayed reaction after the first shot, her doctor prescribed that she take Benadryl and Tylenol every 4 hours after the second shot. It really helped in reducing side effects. They also observed her for a half hour after the shot.
I got the 2nd Phizer shot last Friday  
Jints in Carolina : 2/18/2021 4:35 pm : link
and had no side effects except a sore arm for a day.
I still feel fine  
fivehead : 2/18/2021 5:12 pm : link
but I haven't had either shot yet. When should I start feeling the side effects?
RE: I got the 2nd Phizer shot last Friday  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2021 5:24 pm : link
In comment 15156599 Jints in Carolina said:
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and had no side effects except a sore arm for a day.


So you did want that needle stuck into your veins? Haha. :-)
got the moderna #1 dose on monday  
CGiants07 : 2/18/2021 5:25 pm : link
late afternoon. By about 7pm started to notice my arm hurting. By bed time it was hard to move my arm without pain and couldnt reach over my head. It felt like i had just pitched a complete game ( i pitched in high school) woke up the next day after not sleeping well because of how i see at night, arm was a little sore but better than the night before. Over the course of the day the arm felt better and by wednesday felt normal
Had the shot at 11:15 AM today  
Anakim : 2/18/2021 6:06 pm : link
So far I feel okay. Arm is a little sore, but definitely manageable
Just got the 2nd Moderna jab yesterday.  
Giantgator : 2/18/2021 6:20 pm : link
The wife and I had chills and aches last night and all day today. Hope we're better tomorrow. We're mid-fifties.
My wife is a Infection Control Administrator  
SuperRonJohnson : 2/18/2021 6:29 pm : link
here in Florida. She got the second Moderna shot and was quite sick the next day. If you are sick, it's a good sign that the immune process is succeeding.
And my wife and I both 61  
SuperRonJohnson : 2/18/2021 6:30 pm : link
and in decent health
And my wife and I both 61  
SuperRonJohnson : 2/18/2021 6:30 pm : link
and in decent health
RE: Just got the 2nd Moderna jab yesterday.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2021 6:52 pm : link
In comment 15156697 Giantgator said:
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The wife and I had chills and aches last night and all day today. Hope we're better tomorrow. We're mid-fifties.


You should be. All those I know who had side-effects said they dissipated in approximately 24-36 hours.
Just curious about how all the sub-65ers are getting vacciNted  
Bill L : 2/18/2021 7:19 pm : link
And some on the second dose already. Non-Nyers?
Bill L.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2021 7:26 pm : link
I was deemed 'essential', as I work for law enforcement.

I had qualms for sure, considering I think it's absurd that I got shots before my folks, but they wanted us to get it so...what can one do?
RE: Bill L.  
Bill L : 2/18/2021 7:29 pm : link
In comment 15156736 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I was deemed 'essential', as I work for law enforcement.

I had qualms for sure, considering I think it's absurd that I got shots before my folks, but they wanted us to get it so...what can one do?

I don’t begrudge anyone. Just being curious (or nosy).
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Bill L : 2/18/2021 7:31 pm : link
In comment 15156737 Bill L said:
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In comment 15156736 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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I was deemed 'essential', as I work for law enforcement.

I had qualms for sure, considering I think it's absurd that I got shots before my folks, but they wanted us to get it so...what can one do?


I don’t begrudge anyone. Just being curious (or nosy).

Although I did say before, that I was jealous.

My own situation is weird. It’s looking more and more like our exclusion from being eligible is coming from pretty close to the Executive Office. I’m not sure the rationale. Would it be bad optics if state employees got vaccinated before phase 2?
Bill, based on what you do,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2021 7:34 pm : link
I'd think you'd have already been vaccinated, but I can't speak for NY.
RE: Just curious about how all the sub-65ers are getting vacciNted  
MookGiants : 2/18/2021 7:38 pm : link
In comment 15156731 Bill L said:
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And some on the second dose already. Non-Nyers?


I work for a company that handles medical oxygen cylinders and puts them in hospitals, nursing homes, ambulance companies every day so we were in phase 1a for PA. We didn't know we were even in 1A as my company is based in NY and we're the only location in PA so we didn't look into it as much as we should have at first but the VA Hospital told our driver the one day that we should get it immediately
pfizer  
floridafan : 2/18/2021 7:41 pm : link
I had both shots.
No reaction to either one.
My sister also no reaction.
Getting mine next week and hoping for the best.  
Marty in Albany : 2/18/2021 7:58 pm : link
There is a good reason why some people get hit hard and others do not. Unfortunately scientists have not had time to figure out that reason. When 400,000 people die from a disease in less than a year, finding the reason becomes secondary to giving everyone vaccinations.

I'm sure that by this time next year, we will know the reason why.
Getting shot under 65  
Payasdaddy : 2/18/2021 8:13 pm : link
Well I do some education/tutoring in acct for people. In California I suppose that counts He’ll I could sell weed and that counts in CALI
It’s not like I would say “ I overheard a Kaiser permanente conference call
And the bigwig said they aren’t following up on who is essential and who is not”
2nd Phizer shot on Monday - lets get this going!  
PatersonPlank : 2/18/2021 8:22 pm : link
1st shot gave me zero issues
NY. sounds pretty stringent  
Payasdaddy : 2/18/2021 8:28 pm : link
California is starting to get a good amount of vaccines
RE: 2nd Phizer shot on Monday - lets get this going!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2021 8:34 pm : link
In comment 15156777 PatersonPlank said:
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1st shot gave me zero issues


Good luck! Let us know how you feel.
Ha, I kind of laugh in that  
section125 : 2/18/2021 8:38 pm : link
I won't be 65 for a couple months, basically perfect health so extremely lucky there, but still not eligible for a while. So close...

By the time I am eligible it should be available to all, hopefully.

Those that are eligible, get it, make no excuses or feel bad that you are not "older" yet. You would not be eligible to receive it if you weren't in a situation where you could get the virus more easily or pass it on to those you are helping or work with.

Besides we need some more guinea pigs for testing!
Got my first COVID dose (Moderna)  
dpinzow : 2/18/2021 10:31 pm : link
last Friday. I felt a little blah with soreness in the arm but nothing all that bad
I'm 65  
Bubba : 2/19/2021 6:36 am : link
and still on waiting list in NJ. I know several people <65 with no health issues and not in eligible employment etc. who have received both shots already. NJ is a joke, not just for this.
Interesting, there is an article  
section125 : 2/19/2021 7:08 am : link
in the Post about both Pfizer and Moderna are 92% effective in two weeks with only a single dose. The second only adds about 2% to about 94%.
Thought process is to maybe just get everyone a single dose and then once all are inoculated then get the 2nd dose out.. Studies are out of Canada and Israel and back up FDA research. Only question is actual length of effectiveness on the single dose.

92% - that is highly effective

What do you think BillL
Single dose effectiveness - ( New Window )
RE: Just curious about how all the sub-65ers are getting vacciNted  
RC in MD : 2/19/2021 7:10 am : link
In comment 15156731 Bill L said:
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And some on the second dose already. Non-Nyers?


I had my first Moderna shot earlier this month. Had a sore arm and some fatigue and chills that lasted about a day. Going back for my second in early March.

As far as getting the vaccine already, Ft. Meade is offering it to military and civilian employees working at the agency because the DoD deemed them mission essential workers. Very efficient process from what I saw.
Anyone know which vaccine is best?  
Grey Pilgrim : 2/19/2021 7:12 am : link
My Mother is 90 years old and I'd like to know which vaccine has the fewest side effects.

TIA
Read that story in the Post  
redwhiteandbigblue : 2/19/2021 7:23 am : link
and several other publications. For my money, I go with the facts from the actual trials that call for 2 shots. Don't want to tempt fate with yhis virus.

As for which vaccine has more or less side effects, the studies show that as far as moderate to more severe side effects, Moderna had something like 2 1/2% vs Pfizer 1.50%. That does not include arm pain, headache and chills. Bottom line, both have relatively minor side effects. Oh, and you generally do not get to choose which you get.
RE: Read that story in the Post  
Grey Pilgrim : 2/19/2021 7:26 am : link
In comment 15156921 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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and several other publications. For my money, I go with the facts from the actual trials that call for 2 shots. Don't want to tempt fate with yhis virus.

As for which vaccine has more or less side effects, the studies show that as far as moderate to more severe side effects, Moderna had something like 2 1/2% vs Pfizer 1.50%. That does not include arm pain, headache and chills. Bottom line, both have relatively minor side effects. Oh, and you generally do not get to choose which you get.

Thanks Red! Good info here.
RE: Read that story in the Post  
section125 : 2/19/2021 7:52 am : link
In comment 15156921 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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and several other publications. For my money, I go with the facts from the actual trials that call for 2 shots. Don't want to tempt fate with yhis virus.

As for which vaccine has more or less side effects, the studies show that as far as moderate to more severe side effects, Moderna had something like 2 1/2% vs Pfizer 1.50%. That does not include arm pain, headache and chills. Bottom line, both have relatively minor side effects. Oh, and you generally do not get to choose which you get.


While I trust the trials, 92% vs 94%, but getting more vaccines out more quickly would be far more effective in that more people would be immune in 1/2 the time thereby effectively doubling "herd immunity." If you cut the transmission rates that quickly chances are the virus is effectively muted. More studies would be needed to confirm how long the single dose is effective...

I have no doubt that people will need to get these annually much in the same way flu vaccines are required annually. I am wondering if the covid vaccine is able to be included in the flu vaccine so that only a single vaccine is needed(most flu vaccines have anti-virals to 3 or 4 strains in each dose).
Update: And i am back to normal today  
GMAN4LIFE : 2/19/2021 8:01 am : link
Fever is gone and feel like my old self.

as i said before, 1 day of feeling like shit is better than 2 months in the hospital(my moms cousin has covid and has been in the hospital since December)
just learned my 79 yo Aunt  
LG in NYC : 2/19/2021 8:31 am : link
with UL conditions (cancer) has not been able to get vaccinated in NJ. Simply can't get an appt.

sorry, stuff like this shouldn't be that hard.
My arm is very sore and I'm pretty achy in my legs  
Anakim : 2/19/2021 8:48 am : link
But nothing too bad. All manageable.
Section 125  
redwhiteandbigblue : 2/19/2021 9:32 am : link
Cannot disagree with your logic. From a purely selfish perspective I want the 2 doses, but I agree with your overall opinion
RE: Section 125  
section125 : 2/19/2021 9:41 am : link
In comment 15157023 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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Cannot disagree with your logic. From a purely selfish perspective I want the 2 doses, but I agree with your overall opinion


Cannot fault you....People smarter than me will figure it out
RE: just learned my 79 yo Aunt  
Big Al : 2/19/2021 11:47 am : link
In comment 15156950 LG in NYC said:
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with UL conditions (cancer) has not been able to get vaccinated in NJ. Simply can't get an appt.

sorry, stuff like this shouldn't be that hard.
i got my appointment here. You might give it a try.
Link - ( New Window )
thanks Al  
LG in NYC : 2/19/2021 11:54 am : link
I just registered her.

she is registered at like 8-10 places and with the county and can't get a damn appt.
RE: just learned my 79 yo Aunt  
BlueHurricane : 2/19/2021 12:07 pm : link
In comment 15156950 LG in NYC said:
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with UL conditions (cancer) has not been able to get vaccinated in NJ. Simply can't get an appt.

sorry, stuff like this shouldn't be that hard.


Welcome to Murphyville. This state sucks on so many levels.
I'm trying to get my 90 year old mother the vaccine on Long Island  
Grey Pilgrim : 2/19/2021 1:31 pm : link
Anyone have suggestions? It's been a real struggle getting her one.

TIA
RE: I'm trying to get my 90 year old mother the vaccine on Long Island  
Danny Kanell : 2/19/2021 1:58 pm : link
In comment 15157272 Grey Pilgrim said:
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Anyone have suggestions? It's been a real struggle getting her one.

TIA


I've been following a Long Island vaccination Facebook page since I got my appointment (Really just to hear people's experiences, etc).

People keep posting that if you keep calling the hotline, eventually appointments pop up. 833-697-4829. They just say to call relentlessly if need be, but eventually you'll get lucky.
RE: RE: I'm trying to get my 90 year old mother the vaccine on Long Island  
Grey Pilgrim : 2/19/2021 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15157296 Danny Kanell said:
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In comment 15157272 Grey Pilgrim said:


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Anyone have suggestions? It's been a real struggle getting her one.

TIA



I've been following a Long Island vaccination Facebook page since I got my appointment (Really just to hear people's experiences, etc).

People keep posting that if you keep calling the hotline, eventually appointments pop up. 833-697-4829. They just say to call relentlessly if need be, but eventually you'll get lucky.


Thanks Danny!

Anyone else have a suggestion?

TIA
We got our 1st shot about a week and half ago  
VTChuck : 2/19/2021 4:47 pm : link
Pfizer for both of us. We are 69 and in NH.

Both of us had soreness at the injection site. My wife got some swelling and itching.

We have shot #2 in 2 1/2 weeks.

Process was very smooth in spite of a snowy day. National Guard administered the shots at an armory a few miles from home. Never left the car and we were back home in less than an hour.

I am somewhat concerned about the implanted transmitters in the vaccine, but I'm sure my tin foil hat will block the signals.
RE: We got our 1st shot about a week and half ago  
Pete in MD : 2/19/2021 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15157398 VTChuck said:
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Pfizer for both of us. We are 69 and in NH.

Both of us had soreness at the injection site. My wife got some swelling and itching.

We have shot #2 in 2 1/2 weeks.

Process was very smooth in spite of a snowy day. National Guard administered the shots at an armory a few miles from home. Never left the car and we were back home in less than an hour.

I am somewhat concerned about the implanted transmitters in the vaccine, but I'm sure my tin foil hat will block the signals.

Tin foil won't work. You need one of these:
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/19/2021 6:13 pm : link
Love these posts of people getting shots into their arms. The sooner, the better. I think I speak for all when I want to go back to a somewhat normal life ASAP.
RE: ...  
Anakim : 2/19/2021 6:19 pm : link
In comment 15157442 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Love these posts of people getting shots into their arms. The sooner, the better. I think I speak for all when I want to go back to a somewhat normal life ASAP.


Wait, they were supposed to be in the arms?







Uh oh...
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Route 9 : 2/19/2021 11:25 pm : link
Got both.

My uncle got one and he said he feels worse than he did before. He is 70 years old. Same with my aunt on my father's side is even worse condition. Hope it's all it's cracked up to be and things get set right.
Early report from Israel is that the Pfizer vaccine  
bubba0825 : 2/21/2021 10:53 am : link
Is 90% effective at stopping transmission, great news. Here’s to drinking a beer at a sold out giants game
RE: Early report from Israel is that the Pfizer vaccine  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/21/2021 10:56 am : link
In comment 15158110 bubba0825 said:
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Is 90% effective at stopping transmission, great news. Here’s to drinking a beer at a sold out giants game


Fantastic news!
Got first Pfizer-BioNTech shot yesterday  
DC Gmen Fan : 2/21/2021 1:54 pm : link
Arm is a little sore today but nothing else. #2 scheduled in 3 weeks.
RE: Early report from Israel is that the Pfizer vaccine  
Danny Kanell : 2/21/2021 4:49 pm : link
In comment 15158110 bubba0825 said:
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Is 90% effective at stopping transmission, great news. Here’s to drinking a beer at a sold out giants game


That is great news.
Moderna second dose  
haper : 2/21/2021 5:53 pm : link
I'm 56, had soreness at the injection site and slightly achy later that night. Woke up tired and achy but fine after an hr. My brother-in-law (58) is also doing fine. But my sisters (57 and 58) had a different experience, one said it's like having a 'stay in bed' flu for 24 hrs and the other said it was the worse hangover she ever had.
On  
mitch300 : 2/22/2021 11:51 am : link
The news the their day, they had a report about having a lot of no shows for that vaccine. This is in California. They think one of the reasons is that people schedule multiple sites and never cancel. You might have a chance of waiting to almost the end of the day and go to injection site and see if they have any.
Got 2nd Pfizer shot 8 hrs ago - no effects at all yet  
PatersonPlank : 2/22/2021 7:15 pm : link
All good
RE: Got 2nd Pfizer shot 8 hrs ago - no effects at all yet  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/22/2021 7:20 pm : link
In comment 15159013 PatersonPlank said:
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All good


PP, good luck. From what I've heard, Pfizer second dose doesn't have the same punch as the second Moderna second dose. But it varies from person to person. Good luck. Hope you have no bad side effects.
Wife and I getting 1st Pfizer dose  
Bubba : 2/25/2021 6:56 am : link
today. Bought Pedialyte and Pepto just in case.
I just got my first dose a couple of hours ago. I want to say that  
Ira : 2/25/2021 2:21 pm : link
I'm very grateful to all of the health workers and volunteers who have been serving this country since this pandemic started. God bless them all.
Paterson...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/25/2021 3:07 pm : link
Update on how you're feeling?
Got the first Pfizer today at 5pm  
Danny Kanell : 2/25/2021 8:14 pm : link
So far so good. Got it at Stony Brook. Amazingly organized.
Got my first shot yesterday  
Dave in Hoboken : 2/25/2021 8:18 pm : link
and have felt some arm pain since a few hours after the shot. But it's not as bad as it was yesterday. Just some soreness, but no other symptoms and it feels alot better today.
RE: Got the first Pfizer today at 5pm  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/25/2021 8:27 pm : link
In comment 15161851 Danny Kanell said:
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So far so good. Got it at Stony Brook. Amazingly organized.


Awesome!
RE: Got my first shot yesterday  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/25/2021 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15161855 Dave in Hoboken said:
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and have felt some arm pain since a few hours after the shot. But it's not as bad as it was yesterday. Just some soreness, but no other symptoms and it feels alot better today.


Awesome! Get those shots into people's arms!
Finally got my first Pfizer shot today  
Bill L : 2/25/2021 8:53 pm : link
Unsanctioned but got it anyway. Not feeling guilty.
RE: Finally got my first Pfizer shot today  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/25/2021 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15161909 Bill L said:
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Unsanctioned but got it anyway. Not feeling guilty.


Bill. You deserve it!
RE: RE: Finally got my first Pfizer shot today  
Bill L : 2/25/2021 9:18 pm : link
In comment 15161915 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15161909 Bill L said:


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Unsanctioned but got it anyway. Not feeling guilty.



Bill. You deserve it!


Thanks. I actually could qualify to get an appointment now anyway outside of the work umbrella.

In fact I got an email from my health system portal. It was general but to me and it had terrifically horrible wording.

Basically it said, ‘as you know NYS is now allowing vaccination for all these nasty comorbidities that will kill you soon anyway....GOOD NEWS!!! (It literally said that). You qualify!!!!’

Lucky guy with the asthma, obesity, hypertension, etc, etc, etc...you get to have a vaccine now.

RE: Paterson...  
PatersonPlank : 2/26/2021 1:05 am : link
In comment 15161599 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Update on how you're feeling?


No issues at all, "right as rain" as they say.
Got my second dose of Pfizer last night around 6pm.  
Britt in VA : 2/26/2021 9:52 am : link
feeling okay as of this morning.
Glad you got a vaccine, Bill.  
Britt in VA : 2/26/2021 9:52 am : link
Thanks for keeping us updated throughout.
RE: Got my second dose of Pfizer last night around 6pm.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/26/2021 10:00 am : link
In comment 15162166 Britt in VA said:
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feeling okay as of this morning.


Good to hear!
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Danny Kanell : 2/26/2021 10:04 am : link
Pretty good bout of chills and headache this morning. Literally just came on about 9am. (16 hours after the shot). Of course I get a reaction to the first dose lol.
RE: .  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/26/2021 10:26 am : link
In comment 15162186 Danny Kanell said:
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Pretty good bout of chills and headache this morning. Literally just came on about 9am. (16 hours after the shot). Of course I get a reaction to the first dose lol.


Better than getting COVID. Feel better!
RE: RE: .  
Danny Kanell : 2/26/2021 10:32 am : link
In comment 15162232 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15162186 Danny Kanell said:


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Pretty good bout of chills and headache this morning. Literally just came on about 9am. (16 hours after the shot). Of course I get a reaction to the first dose lol.



Better than getting COVID. Feel better!


Yes sir. It's fine, I'm still working from home so I plan on doing the absolute bare minimum today and relaxing it away.
It’s cause  
Carl in CT : 2/26/2021 10:56 am : link
Older people have a weak immune system. You feel it cause your body is attacking the injection. That means you have a good immune system (not bad). Older people are not fighting the injection.
Mrs. and I got our second Moderna shots today  
NYerInMA : 2/26/2021 9:19 pm : link
Not expecting this weekend to be pleasant based on how we reacted to the first shot, but we'll see how it goes.
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Danny Kanell : 2/26/2021 10:35 pm : link
It was pretty weird. Couldn’t get warm all day and had a brutal headache. Then it just went away around 8pm. Hoping it stays this way.

I wonder how bad the 2nd shot will be now lol
Got the first shot on Wednesday at 11 AM.  
Dave in Hoboken : 2/26/2021 10:52 pm : link
About 3-4 hours after the shot, my arm started feeling quite sore. For the rest of the day, my arm got more and more as the day went on. Woke up the next day (yesterday), and it was still alittle sore, but nowhere near as sore as the previous day. As yesterday went on, the arm became less and less sore. Woke up today (Friday), and the arm is back to normal.

That is the only side-effect I suffered, thankfully. No headache or fever or anything like that.

I get my second shot exactly one month after I got my first shot; 3/24.
Got my second shot (Pfizer) Thursday at 6pm.  
Britt in VA : 2/27/2021 7:38 am : link
Yesterday morning, it was okay when I posted, but just felt a little off. Throughout the day yesterday, just different things at different times. A little achy here and there, occassional slight chills, so slight I couldn't tell if they were chills or it was just cold in my house (never felt inclined to layer up or anything), later in the evening achy legs and lymph nodes in my neck, etc... Just... off.

Hard to describe. Very strange. Went to bed at 8 just because I was tired of feeling off and slept to 6:30 this morning when my kids woke me up. Felt like a million bucks this morning. Made me realize that I felt pretty lousy yesterday but functional. But it didn't knock me on my ass or anything. Good luck everybody.
If I could describe the experience more simply...  
Britt in VA : 2/27/2021 7:49 am : link
it was like being sick without actually being sick. So imagine you have the sort of sickness that keeps you home from work. Sore throat, sniffles sneezes and coughs, aches and pains. Run of the mill "I'm calling in sick" sick.

But remove the sort throat, sniffles, sneezes and coughs, and just leave the aches and pains.

That's the best I can describe it.
Britt.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/27/2021 9:16 am : link
Glad you're feeling better! Yeah, second shot reactions vary.
RE: If I could describe the experience more simply...  
PatersonPlank : 2/27/2021 3:17 pm : link
In comment 15162811 Britt in VA said:
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it was like being sick without actually being sick. So imagine you have the sort of sickness that keeps you home from work. Sore throat, sniffles sneezes and coughs, aches and pains. Run of the mill "I'm calling in sick" sick.

But remove the sort throat, sniffles, sneezes and coughs, and just leave the aches and pains.

That's the best I can describe it.


Its funny. I posted on here that I felt fine after my 2nd Pfizer shot, but I was achy also. Especially in my legs and arms. I just chaulked it up to something else, but now thinking about it maybe it was the shot. It was minor so I just assumed it was nothing
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Danny Kanell : 2/27/2021 5:06 pm : link
I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.
Britt  
Danny Kanell : 2/27/2021 5:07 pm : link
That’s a good way to explain how I felt yesterday. Chills, headache, achy etc without the actual typical sick stuff.
RE: Britt  
Matt M. : 2/27/2021 5:16 pm : link
In comment 15163076 Danny Kanell said:
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That’s a good way to explain how I felt yesterday. Chills, headache, achy etc without the actual typical sick stuff.
This was me after the 1st dose, but a temp only around 99.5 and all for about 36 hours.

2nd dose was nothing more than very slight soreness in the arm for about 24 hours.

I had COVID in March 2020, so it fits with your friend's theory.
RE: .  
Bill L : 2/27/2021 7:09 pm : link
In comment 15163075 Danny Kanell said:
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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.


How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/27/2021 7:11 pm : link
First shot, no side effects. Second shot...legs felt like I had run from the East Coast to the West Coast nonstop ala Forrest Gump, Haha. But that subsided the afternoon after the shot...considering the reactions colleagues had/reading some here, I consider myself lucky.
RE: RE: .  
Bill L : 2/27/2021 7:15 pm : link
In comment 15163111 Bill L said:
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In comment 15163075 Danny Kanell said:


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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.



How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?


Also, the symptoms people have are the same as in the trials and everyone in the trial was known to have no prior COVID.
Had my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday  
jlukes : 2/27/2021 7:46 pm : link
Very tired today a little achey. Chalking it up to having and auto immune disease so my body over reacts to everything
RE: Had my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/27/2021 7:52 pm : link
In comment 15163129 jlukes said:
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Very tired today a little achey. Chalking it up to having and auto immune disease so my body over reacts to everything


Feel better!
Had Pfizer 2nd shot yesterday  
US1 Giants : 2/27/2021 7:54 pm : link
Had a little soreness in my arm
but a bad night's sleep. Had a bad night's sleep for a couple of nights after the first shot. First shot gave me a hot spot (painful if touched or slept on) on my arm for a couple of days.
Same reaction from 2nd shot as 1st so far  
NYerInMA : 2/27/2021 10:20 pm : link
Fever, chills, headache, muscle aches, and fatigue. Slept most of the day today and probably will again tomorrow.
RE: RE: .  
Danny Kanell : 2/27/2021 11:32 pm : link
In comment 15163111 Bill L said:
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In comment 15163075 Danny Kanell said:


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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.



How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?


No idea
RE: How do you explain the placebo group in the trials  
JohnF : 2/28/2021 11:51 am : link
In comment 15163111 Bill L said:
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In comment 15163075 Danny Kanell said:


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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.



How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?


Did the study take into account which subjects had allergies and which did not? There are some discussions about having allergies might mean you have a more active immune system, which would be a good thing. Breaking down the type of allergy might also be useful.

Do Allergies Protect Us? - ( New Window )
Here's an interesting article from the US National Library of Medicine  
JohnF : 2/28/2021 12:04 pm : link
Allergy and Aging: An Old/New Emerging Health Issue

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The aging process impacts on body functions at the molecular, cellular and systemic levels, leading to loss of homeostasis, decreased ability to respond to extrinsic and intrinsic challenges, and increased susceptibility to chronic inflammatory diseases, resulting in senescence...

In particular, the immune system is deeply remodeled during aging. Several mechanisms of both innate and adaptive immunity undergo age-related changes, configuring the so-called immunosenescence. Many aspects of immune function decline with aging, while others become more active....

This immune dysregulation provides the background for the development of the increased susceptibility to infections and autoimmune diseases, neoplasias, metabolic diseases, osteoporosis, neurological disorders, as well as to allergic inflammation.


There is a whole section on respiratory tract modifications which is interesting as well. The changes from ageing might be a factor in why Covid is so deadly to populations 70 and older (though I suspect damage caused by smoking and air quality is likely a major factor here).
Second Moderna vaccine this morning  
Rick in Dallas : 3/4/2021 12:40 pm : link
Feeling well. So thankful to have both shots done before Texas opens up 100% next week.
Rick.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 3:58 pm : link
Awesome. Just an FYI though...the side effects usually come on 10ish or so hours after the second shot. Hopefully you have none.
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