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NFT: Covid Vaccine - 2nd dose. Oh man

GMAN4LIFE : 2/18/2021 8:56 am
Man is this second dose kicking my ass. Got the shot yesterday.

Was fine up until bed time. Couldnt sleep right, woke up with body aches and a mild fever. My wife felt the same way but my parents however feel perfectly fine. Another friend of mine ,around the same age, also feels the same. Almost exactly the same.

Any reasoning to older people feeling fine after the second shot but the semi younger crowd feeling like shit?
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Bill L : 2/27/2021 7:15 pm : link
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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.



How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?


Also, the symptoms people have are the same as in the trials and everyone in the trial was known to have no prior COVID.
Had my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday  
jlukes : 2/27/2021 7:46 pm : link
Very tired today a little achey. Chalking it up to having and auto immune disease so my body over reacts to everything
RE: Had my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/27/2021 7:52 pm : link
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Very tired today a little achey. Chalking it up to having and auto immune disease so my body over reacts to everything


Feel better!
Had Pfizer 2nd shot yesterday  
US1 Giants : 2/27/2021 7:54 pm : link
Had a little soreness in my arm
but a bad night's sleep. Had a bad night's sleep for a couple of nights after the first shot. First shot gave me a hot spot (painful if touched or slept on) on my arm for a couple of days.
Same reaction from 2nd shot as 1st so far  
NYerInMA : 2/27/2021 10:20 pm : link
Fever, chills, headache, muscle aches, and fatigue. Slept most of the day today and probably will again tomorrow.
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Danny Kanell : 2/27/2021 11:32 pm : link
In comment 15163111 Bill L said:
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In comment 15163075 Danny Kanell said:


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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.



How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?


No idea
RE: How do you explain the placebo group in the trials  
JohnF : 2/28/2021 11:51 am : link
In comment 15163111 Bill L said:
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In comment 15163075 Danny Kanell said:


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I was texting with my buddy who works for Northwell today. He was saying there’s a lot of evidence now that is suggesting people who are having reactions after the first shot likely had covid already. It’s because their bodies are already recognizing the proteins in the vaccine. Seems to make some sense.



How do you explain the placebo group in the trials where the same side effects in slightly lesser percentage occurred?


Did the study take into account which subjects had allergies and which did not? There are some discussions about having allergies might mean you have a more active immune system, which would be a good thing. Breaking down the type of allergy might also be useful.

Do Allergies Protect Us? - ( New Window )
Here's an interesting article from the US National Library of Medicine  
JohnF : 2/28/2021 12:04 pm : link
Allergy and Aging: An Old/New Emerging Health Issue

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The aging process impacts on body functions at the molecular, cellular and systemic levels, leading to loss of homeostasis, decreased ability to respond to extrinsic and intrinsic challenges, and increased susceptibility to chronic inflammatory diseases, resulting in senescence...

In particular, the immune system is deeply remodeled during aging. Several mechanisms of both innate and adaptive immunity undergo age-related changes, configuring the so-called immunosenescence. Many aspects of immune function decline with aging, while others become more active....

This immune dysregulation provides the background for the development of the increased susceptibility to infections and autoimmune diseases, neoplasias, metabolic diseases, osteoporosis, neurological disorders, as well as to allergic inflammation.


There is a whole section on respiratory tract modifications which is interesting as well. The changes from ageing might be a factor in why Covid is so deadly to populations 70 and older (though I suspect damage caused by smoking and air quality is likely a major factor here).
Second Moderna vaccine this morning  
Rick in Dallas : 3/4/2021 12:40 pm : link
Feeling well. So thankful to have both shots done before Texas opens up 100% next week.
Rick.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 3:58 pm : link
Awesome. Just an FYI though...the side effects usually come on 10ish or so hours after the second shot. Hopefully you have none.
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