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BBV: 5 ‘discount’ WRs the Giants could pursue

Big Blue '56 : 2/19/2021 8:15 am
Write-ups on each when you click on lonk.

1-Marvin Jones, Jr., Lions

2-Keelan Cole, Jaguars

3-Breshad Perriman, Jets

4-Josh Reynolds, Rams

5-David Moore, Seahawks
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You guys  
Sy'56 : 2/19/2021 3:20 pm : link
don't respect Marvin Jones enough
I like Jones Jr  
JonC : 2/19/2021 3:58 pm : link
but he'll be 31, so now we're looking at stop gap rather than an ascending player who's in his prime when the roster is ready to contend.
RE: I like Jones Jr  
GManinDC : 2/19/2021 5:05 pm : link
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but he'll be 31, so now we're looking at stop gap rather than an ascending player who's in his prime when the roster is ready to contend.


+1

Didn't SY just vent a week ago about plugging holes instead of building a pipeline???
RE: RE: RE: Can we cut SHEP, add Marvin and Samuel...Draft a WR?  
Rafflee : 2/19/2021 5:14 pm : link
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I like Marvin, Samuel, Draft Pick , Slayton...plus "cast" better than avoiding a nice player to keep Shep. Shep is a No Impact Receiver.



There you go. Cut the one dependable receiver..Better they cut everyone not named Sterling Shepard.



Shepard is our best WR at the moment. He’s a perfect slot receiver. We just need to add two true outside receivers. Slayton may be one of them, but you need at least 4 viable WR’s to compete in this league.


Shep is far from a Perfect Slot. No Speed...no ability as a Runner or after catch. Lack of availability week-week. He's a decent THREE at this point.

Samuel has big upside and versatility.... Jones would provide a tough professional Wideout. Draft some talent. Bring the rest of the cast Back and let them fight for a spot---Pettis, Slayton, Etc. You add talent and production and WAY Upside.

RE: RE: I like Jones Jr  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/19/2021 5:33 pm : link
In comment 15157415 GManinDC said:
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but he'll be 31, so now we're looking at stop gap rather than an ascending player who's in his prime when the roster is ready to contend.



+1

Didn't SY just vent a week ago about plugging holes instead of building a pipeline???

This is an excellent point.

We should focus on signing ERFAs that will never hit the market.
RE: And according to another site  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/19/2021 5:36 pm : link
In comment 15157318 GManinDC said:
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he is a RFA this year. Even better..

But he's not, he's an ERFA. It's probably the same site that told you BJ Hill was a FA - and I'm guessing that site is probably including this calendar year's season when they discuss 2021 FAs (meaning they're talking about players who will achieve their respective FA status AFTER this upcoming season), which would explain both of your errors.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Can we cut SHEP, add Marvin and Samuel...Draft a WR?  
eric2425ny : 2/19/2021 6:10 pm : link
In comment 15157418 Rafflee said:
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I like Marvin, Samuel, Draft Pick , Slayton...plus "cast" better than avoiding a nice player to keep Shep. Shep is a No Impact Receiver.



There you go. Cut the one dependable receiver..Better they cut everyone not named Sterling Shepard.



Shepard is our best WR at the moment. He’s a perfect slot receiver. We just need to add two true outside receivers. Slayton may be one of them, but you need at least 4 viable WR’s to compete in this league.



Shep is far from a Perfect Slot. No Speed...no ability as a Runner or after catch. Lack of availability week-week. He's a decent THREE at this point.

Samuel has big upside and versatility.... Jones would provide a tough professional Wideout. Draft some talent. Bring the rest of the cast Back and let them fight for a spot---Pettis, Slayton, Etc. You add talent and production and WAY Upside.


No speed? Have you seen him run reverses? He’s not Tyreek Hill but he’s not slow. Slot receivers don’t have to be super fast, they need to run clean routes and catch the ball which Shepard is very good at.
Shep is trash  
TommyWiseau : 2/19/2021 7:44 pm : link
He is getting 10 mil a year and plays like a 4 mil a year WR. Hes a JAG
RE: We need a more impactful player  
Kev in Cali : 2/20/2021 12:25 am : link
In comment 15156941 bigbluehoya said:
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but I wouldn't hate to see them add a guy like Jones Jr.

He has a nose for the end zone, and his skill sets seem complementary to Shepard.

In theory, among Slayton + Shephard + Jones you would have a balanced group of skill sets (if still missing the twitchy athletic type).


Meh....we can do better than Marvin Jones....would be two too many Detroit leftovers in the locker room...
RE: Go get Cam simms from WFT  
Milton : 2/20/2021 2:29 am : link
In comment 15157123 GManinDC said:
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ERFA. Guy is 6'5, good hands.
What do you mean by "Go get" if he's an ERFA? You want them to trade for him?
RE: RE: And according to another site  
GManinDC : 2/20/2021 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15157424 Gatorade Dunk said:
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he is a RFA this year. Even better..


But he's not, he's an ERFA. It's probably the same site that told you BJ Hill was a FA - and I'm guessing that site is probably including this calendar year's season when they discuss 2021 FAs (meaning they're talking about players who will achieve their respective FA status AFTER this upcoming season), which would explain both of your errors.


Well, that clears up the confusion with the years. I retract those statements about getting Simms and Hill.

They still should have explored him last year when he sat on PS all year..
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 2/20/2021 3:48 pm : link
1) Of these guys, the one who interests me is Jones, but not a while lot. I like him, but at his age and not a true #1, what is the point really?

2) We don't need to bring in more of the same #2/#3 guys. Why stockpile a bunch of the same? It still leaves the same problem of not having a single guy that a D worries about.

3) Maybe with Tate cut, one of these guys becomes a better version. But, again, it's still not a #1 guy that loosens up a D.

4) Shepard is the guy that makes me go back and forth. I really like him and think he is better than some give him credit for. He is excellent in the slot, but is still good outside. He just needs someone opposite him it make him more effective. Slayton is the same way. Some were down on him by the end of the year, but he is a good #2 WR. We just don't have anyone better to take the heat off him.
RE: RE: RE: And according to another site  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/20/2021 6:55 pm : link
In comment 15157752 GManinDC said:
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he is a RFA this year. Even better..


But he's not, he's an ERFA. It's probably the same site that told you BJ Hill was a FA - and I'm guessing that site is probably including this calendar year's season when they discuss 2021 FAs (meaning they're talking about players who will achieve their respective FA status AFTER this upcoming season), which would explain both of your errors.



Well, that clears up the confusion with the years. I retract those statements about getting Simms and Hill.

They still should have explored him last year when he sat on PS all year..

And I retract my snarkiness. Please accept my apologies.
RE: RE: RE: Go get Cam simms from WFT  
Jay on the Island : 2/20/2021 10:39 pm : link
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ERFA. Guy is 6'5, good hands.



Why would they let him go?



They got a bunch of guys coming up on contract and still need a QB. Make the contract where WFT can't/won't match

If he is an exclusive rights FA then the Giants can’t make him an offer.
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GManinDC : 2/21/2021 12:14 am : link
In comment 15157904 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15157424 Gatorade Dunk said:


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In comment 15157318 GManinDC said:


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he is a RFA this year. Even better..


But he's not, he's an ERFA. It's probably the same site that told you BJ Hill was a FA - and I'm guessing that site is probably including this calendar year's season when they discuss 2021 FAs (meaning they're talking about players who will achieve their respective FA status AFTER this upcoming season), which would explain both of your errors.



Well, that clears up the confusion with the years. I retract those statements about getting Simms and Hill.

They still should have explored him last year when he sat on PS all year..


And I retract my snarkiness. Please accept my apologies. [/quit

All good.
For some reason  
GManinDC : 2/21/2021 12:25 am : link
He's #4 or 5 on their depth chart. Health issues. But when healthy, produces. I think they are going to go get another WR to go with McClaurin. And I think they are gonna rescind that tag.

They also have a Steve Simms, exciting KR/PR with pretty good WR skills. Nice young guys who can stretch an offense. I think they'll keep just one of the 2..
I’d sign Reynolds and Moore  
KWALL2 : 2/21/2021 2:57 pm : link
Both are better then what we have now. Both are 25-26 yrs old too.

Moore is a Curtis Samuel type at a much lower price. Good runner.

Reynolds played with a QB who couldn’t get the ball down the field. He may be one of the best FA values this year, I think he can be a solid starter for several years. Big guy. Can get deep.

Not a fan of Jones for this team. I’d go with the younger guys,
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