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Finally Found It: 1970 Giants Robbed by Crazy End Zone Call

M.S. : 2/21/2021 7:45 am

Have talked about this play several times on BBI and have now finally found it.

1970 was a winning year for the Giants (9-5) and they would have made the playoffs had they won their final game at home against the L.A. Rams. Alas, they were slaughtered 31-3.

But maybe they would have already clinched a playoff spot had it not been for the third game of the 1970 season down in New Orleans. At 2:27 you can see Fran Tarkenton throw what should have been a winning touchdown to Aaron Thomas. But the ref signaled incomplete.

I'm pretty sure the ref was confused by the end zone green border that served as a perimeter around a golden rectangle. I suspect he thought the green was out of bounds. In any event, my recollection is that the ref was fired after the game. What is certain is that the Giants had to claw their way back from an 0-3 start. They went 9-1 in their next ten games, but then landed with a thud against the Rams when it really counted.

From 1964 - 1980, the 1970 season was the closest (by far) the Giants ever came to making the playoffs. And maybe they would have if not for the end zone color design down in New Orleans!

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And then the Rams came in to Yankee Stadium  
Big Blue '56 : 2/21/2021 7:47 am : link
and we needed a win to finally make the playoffs. Before we knew it, we were down 24-3 at the half (lost 31-3)..It was a long ride home
You posted this for us in October 2018  
shyster : 2/21/2021 7:54 am : link
I remembered because I posted about going to the home Eagles game and because I hadn't seen the Saints play before.


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Thanks for posting  
Giant John : 2/21/2021 8:00 am : link
Nice hear Frank Gifford narrating too.
Pretty sure  
winoguy : 2/21/2021 8:02 am : link
we went up 3-0 in that game, then got slaughtered....
Fran tarkenton wrote a book that included  
truebluelarry : 2/21/2021 8:23 am : link
a game-by-game review of the 1970 season. He wrote quite a bit about this game and that play and how during the fim review the team was incdredulous over the call and how htey beleived they had won the game, but also about how as a player you have to let it go and move on to the next game.
RE: And then the Rams came in to Yankee Stadium  
M.S. : 2/21/2021 8:50 am : link
In comment 15158024 Big Blue '56 said:
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and we needed a win to finally make the playoffs. Before we knew it, we were down 24-3 at the half (lost 31-3)..It was a long ride home

Ugh. I was at that game. My recollection is we had a nice opening game drive, but it stalled and we had to settle for a FG, which felt like a bad omen at the time. And I vividly recall looking through my binoculars at Jerry Shay writhing on the ground with a leg injury. They had his helmet off and his face was beet red. Awful.
RE: Pretty sure  
M.S. : 2/21/2021 8:51 am : link
In comment 15158029 winoguy said:
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we went up 3-0 in that game, then got slaughtered....

That's my recollection as well.
RE: You posted this for us in October 2018  
M.S. : 2/21/2021 9:02 am : link
In comment 15158027 shyster said:
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I remembered because I posted about going to the home Eagles game and because I hadn't seen the Saints play before.
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Shyster -- thanks. I totally forgot that post. Oh, well, maybe my memory isn't as good as I think it is!
I was  
noro9 : 2/21/2021 9:08 am : link
At the Ram game. Yes, we went up 3-0 then got our asses kicked. Our QB was Norm Snead
RE: I was  
Jim in Tampa : 2/21/2021 9:33 am : link
In comment 15158045 noro9 said:
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At the Ram game. Yes, we went up 3-0 then got our asses kicked. Our QB was Norm Snead

No, Tark was the Giants QB in 1970. Snead didn't play for the Giants until '72.
Remember that play well  
US1 Giants : 2/21/2021 9:35 am : link
Was very young but knew the Giants were robbed by that stupid ref.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/21/2021 9:39 am : link
That was an egregious call. I'm assuming some of the end zone was painted gold because of the Saints team color?
whatever. I'm not going to blame a bad call. Fact is that Tarkenton  
Victor in CT : 2/21/2021 9:59 am : link
shit the bed like he did in most playoff games. I remember my dad being really agitated about that game. He was a classic compiler. He couldn't move a team from the pocket with the money on the table.
1970 was the 2016  
arniefez : 2/21/2021 10:01 am : link
of the Wellington years. It was the only good year from 1965 to 1980. Similar to 2016 it was smoke and mirrors nothing sustainable. I wonder how long the John and Chris years are going to last.
Best Game was vs Washington  
Bruner4329 : 2/21/2021 10:54 am : link
By far the best game that year was at home vs Washington. Team was down big in 4th quarter and pulled game out. I believe they scored 3 TDs in final 8 minutes. Remember listening to that game on radio as home games were blacked out. HOF broadcaster Marty Glickman memorable line on last drive was telling listeners to pull over if you are driving as Giants were mounting final winning drive.
RE: 1970 was the 2016  
Bruner4329 : 2/21/2021 10:56 am : link
In comment 15158074 arniefez said:
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of the Wellington years. It was the only good year from 1965 to 1980. Similar to 2016 it was smoke and mirrors nothing sustainable. I wonder how long the John and Chris years are going to last.


Actually I believe team went 8-6 in 1972. Decent year but couldn't compete with Washington and Dallas teams.
I went to the Super Bowl that year...  
Mike in St. Louis : 2/21/2021 11:22 am : link
Cowboys vs. Colts...awful game...

as my Dad and I were leaving the old Orange Bowl, we ran into Alex Webster...my father took a picture of us which is in my boxes of pictures somewhere in my basement...I was wearing my Giants shirt and told him we were going to the playoffs the next year...

the Giants then went on to select Rocky Thompson in that spring's draft, a pick before Jack Tatum went to the Raiders...I should have told Webster not to do it (had I known :-)...the Giants then proceeded to go 4-10 and Webster was fired a couple of years later...

guess I jinxed him and the Giants...
RE: ...  
M.S. : 2/21/2021 11:49 am : link
In comment 15158063 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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That was an egregious call. I'm assuming some of the end zone was painted gold because of the Saints team color?

Yep, I think that's right.
It was chalk  
RetroJint : 2/21/2021 11:59 am : link
and it had “Saints” written in a weird, little diagonal in the corner . The refs were thrown off by the chalking . What I loved about that season (East Coast Offense , according to Fran ) were the 2 blow outs over the Cardinals .

The Rams Front Four simply overpowered what was a finesse offensive line . Quite similar to the what the Ravens did in the 2000 Super Bowl . Fran never had a chance .
I remember watching that game...  
GA5 : 2/21/2021 12:03 pm : link
It was indeed the gold paint in the endzone that the official mistook for the out of bounds line. For us, back then, 1970 was considered a "good" year. We had Tarkenton and had just traded for Ron Johnson. The offense seemed pretty solid. One of the problems with those losing years was that the offense and defense never seemed good at the same time. Later, we had a very good defense, but guys like Craig Morton (who resorted to hypnosis to help with his concentration problems)and "stars" like Rocky Thompson made up a very weak offense. Ah...great days!
that Rams game  
bluepepper : 2/21/2021 1:33 pm : link
is the earliest memory I retain of a Giants game. Listening on the radio with great anticipation. I remember being very confused as to how they could lose so badly. My dad came home in a rage. As if he had been swindled or robbed...lol. In a few years I would understand.
I really loved watching the Giants in  
bluesince56 : 2/21/2021 1:57 pm : link
Yankees Stadium. Fond memories sitting with my Dad in the late fifties early sixties. I still smell the hot dogs and cigar smoke in the stands.
Its really interesting how the local papers covered the game.  
truebluelarry : 2/21/2021 2:20 pm : link
The NY Daily News goes into detail on the controversial non-catch ruling:
https://i.imgur.com/bNdPTth.jpg

While the Shreverport, (LA) Times makes no mention of it whatsoever.
https://i.imgur.com/Zg9AR32.jpg

Looking at the box scores, the Giants dominated the Saints statistically (22 first downs to 10, 151 rushing yards to 92 and 210 passing yards to 92) but killed themselves with mistakes. Tarkenton threw three INTs, Gogolak missed three FGs and a blocked punt resulted in the Saints go-ahead TD in the fourth quarter. It probably never should have come down to that late drive for the come-from-behind TD, the Giants could have been just running out the clock.
RE: Its really interesting how the local papers covered the game.  
M.S. : 2/21/2021 3:02 pm : link
In comment 15158215 truebluelarry said:
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The NY Daily News goes into detail on the controversial non-catch ruling:
https://i.imgur.com/bNdPTth.jpg

While the Shreverport, (LA) Times makes no mention of it whatsoever.
https://i.imgur.com/Zg9AR32.jpg

Looking at the box scores, the Giants dominated the Saints statistically (22 first downs to 10, 151 rushing yards to 92 and 210 passing yards to 92) but killed themselves with mistakes. Tarkenton threw three INTs, Gogolak missed three FGs and a blocked punt resulted in the Saints go-ahead TD in the fourth quarter. It probably never should have come down to that late drive for the come-from-behind TD, the Giants could have been just running out the clock.

Thanks for these!
RE: Best Game was vs Washington  
Big Blue '56 : 2/21/2021 3:05 pm : link
In comment 15158111 Bruner4329 said:
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By far the best game that year was at home vs Washington. Team was down big in 4th quarter and pulled game out. I believe they scored 3 TDs in final 8 minutes. Remember listening to that game on radio as home games were blacked out. HOF broadcaster Marty Glickman memorable line on last drive was telling listeners to pull over if you are driving as Giants were mounting final winning drive.


I was there. Yup 33-14 Skins in the 4th. What an unexpectedly great ride home
RE: RE: Best Game was vs Washington  
M.S. : 2/21/2021 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15158233 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 15158111 Bruner4329 said:


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By far the best game that year was at home vs Washington. Team was down big in 4th quarter and pulled game out. I believe they scored 3 TDs in final 8 minutes. Remember listening to that game on radio as home games were blacked out. HOF broadcaster Marty Glickman memorable line on last drive was telling listeners to pull over if you are driving as Giants were mounting final winning drive.



I was there. Yup 33-14 Skins in the 4th. What an unexpectedly great ride home

Was there, too! Recollect an on-sides kick recovery.
That Redskin game was a good one.  
truebluelarry : 2/21/2021 3:59 pm : link
The Giants wouldn't have another come from behind effort like that until 1986 (where they had a couple of them).

NY Daily News
https://i.imgur.com/H9yDwxd.jpg

NY Times
https://i.imgur.com/cyFu7Dd.png

Washington Post part 1
https://i.imgur.com/fADHXy4.png

Washington Post part 2
https://i.imgur.com/hm8bQMD.png
Missed a page  
truebluelarry : 2/21/2021 4:29 pm : link
Daily News part 2
https://i.imgur.com/ZSS94Zu.jpg
51 years  
steve in maryland : 2/21/2021 5:09 pm : link
and that call still makes me crazy. I remember that call and cursed for an hour.
I was 12 and remember that bad call.  
Ike#88 : 2/21/2021 10:33 pm : link
The whole game was a struggle and being young I could not believe such a bad call would stand. The comeback at Yankee Stadium against Washington was one of my best Giants memories. Ron Johnson running it in to pandemonium. And then the Rams game. A total faceplant. I did not know then there was a decade of misery coming.
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