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Del Shofner : 2/21/2021 6:47 pm
Just watched the end of Celts - Pelicans - biggest comeback in Pels' history - they were down 24 and ended up winning in OT.

Anyway - LGK!
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Ugly wins count too  
mfsd : 2/21/2021 9:34 pm : link
Knicks with some good defense in the last 2 minutes
that was closer  
Del Shofner : 2/21/2021 9:34 pm : link
than it should have been
Burks with stones of Saturn.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/21/2021 9:34 pm : link
Knicks hold on.
Horrible fourth but we survived.  
bceagle05 : 2/21/2021 9:35 pm : link
Fans back on Tuesday, another chance to get to .500.
Randle 25-14-4  
Del Shofner : 2/21/2021 9:36 pm : link
Burks is a good FT shooter.
KAT takes too many “Fuck it threes”.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/21/2021 9:37 pm : link
Like I’m shooting this now no matter what.
Bench needs to wake up  
nygiants16 : 2/21/2021 9:37 pm : link
Rose and Iq both off the past 2 games, for this team to win games on most nightd they need the bench
RE: Bench needs to wake up  
Stu11 : 2/21/2021 9:41 pm : link
In comment 15158397 nygiants16 said:
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Rose and Iq both off the past 2 games, for this team to win games on most nightd they need the bench

Agreed. The bench was awful the last 2. Thank god we survived this.
Wow  
Jon in NYC : 2/21/2021 9:44 pm : link
Way too close at the end. How does Towns not ask out soon? That supporting cast is absolute garbage. Even with Russell.
Give Bullock credit  
nygiants16 : 2/21/2021 9:46 pm : link
his defense on Beasley was very good
RJ with 21 but more impressively for me  
Del Shofner : 2/21/2021 9:48 pm : link
+20 in that suckfest - easily the best on the Knicks.

Derrick Rose  
Enzo : 2/21/2021 10:06 pm : link
has made 5 shots over his last 3 games, going 5-27. He was supposed to help what was a bottom 5 offense...but he's doing the opposite.
Rose and Iq arent taking bad shots  
nygiants16 : 2/21/2021 10:19 pm : link
just not falling, Rose missed a couple of wide open layups and IQ's floater has been off for a few games
We missed Mitch tonight  
larryflower37 : 2/21/2021 10:23 pm : link
Hate to say it but we need a center that can force opposing Center to play defense.
But a win is a win.
RJ played a good game and plays well in ugly games.
Bench was a mess tonight outside of Burks.
Rose, Quickley and Toppin 3 for 16 combined.
Watching Nets-Clippers what a horrific call at the end  
Stu11 : 2/21/2021 10:34 pm : link
I have no dog in the fight but noway in he'll is that an offensive foul on Kawhi. Harden is such a flopping bitch.
Not crazy about that fourth quarter, but I'll take the W  
Anakim : 2/21/2021 10:46 pm : link
It amazes how bad Noel's hands are. Mitchell Robinson has the same thing. I remember hearing a C (maybe Shaq) explaining that he missed so many free throws because it's like throwing a marble into a basket. But I digress. Whenever a pass goes to Robinson and Noel, they almost always bobble it.
Wolves just fired their coach, Woj reports.  
bceagle05 : 2/21/2021 11:07 pm : link
A few more top three picks and maybe they’ll be mediocre.
RE: Wolves just fired their coach, Woj reports.  
nygiants16 : 2/21/2021 11:11 pm : link
In comment 15158419 bceagle05 said:
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A few more top three picks and maybe they’ll be mediocre.


Hiring Raptors assistant to a multi year deal,this must of been in the works
RE: RE: Wolves just fired their coach, Woj reports.  
Anakim : 2/21/2021 11:16 pm : link
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A few more top three picks and maybe they’ll be mediocre.



Hiring Raptors assistant to a multi year deal,this must of been in the works


I didn't know you were allowed to hire an assistant from another team midseason
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bceagle05 : 2/21/2021 11:16 pm : link
RE: RE: RE: Wolves just fired their coach, Woj reports.  
nygiants16 : 2/21/2021 11:18 pm : link
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A few more top three picks and maybe they’ll be mediocre.



Hiring Raptors assistant to a multi year deal,this must of been in the works



I didn't know you were allowed to hire an assistant from another team midseason


they got permission from Toronto, doesnt happen very often
Curious to see if Woj takes any shots at Minny for this move.  
bceagle05 : 2/21/2021 11:35 pm : link
How bout Carlisle? Kerr? Pop? Let’s hear from the Fiz Fan Club.
Woj says Beal is unlikely to be traded before deadline  
shyster : 2/22/2021 4:09 am : link
On last night's NBA Countdown.

This article expands on that and speculates about destinations for Beal (Warriors, Pelicans) if he were to be traded, perhaps in the off-season.

As for CJ McCollum, certainly an excellent player when he's on the court. But two years older than Beal and currently out with his third career foot fracture.
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I find Noel maddening  
Heisenberg : 2/22/2021 8:08 am : link
He's really good defender but his hands are 2021 Evan Engram esque. Combine that with his slight frame and that makes him a terrible rebounder for his position. And he has absolutely zero feel for what he's doing on the offensive end. I'm half convinced that one of the bad RJ floaters was supposed to be a lob to him. Noel has value and can help a team but he really is a limited player. Mitch is already a lot better, IMO.

Taj was a bit of a better matchup for Towns and definitely a better fit down the stretch.

RJ was good most of the night although I'd say that there was one drive where he got swatted by KAT that had me thinking that we really need to focus on going through Randle in a close game like that. Finally they did after that swat and it paid off with Randle getting to the line.

Randle is a stud. I was so sick of him last year but the dude is playing well and brings it every night.

I'm not sure he'll every be worth what he's gonna get paid but you can see how having another scorer like Lavine would change a tight game like that. RJ is a good scorer but he's not a shot creator. Having a guy that can stretch the floor and create his own shot would make it so much harder for the opponent. Instead, because Randle is the only one who can get his own shot, it leaves the Knicks playing a little uphill most nights. Luckily, The Wolves only had one guy too and it didn't cost them. But that wont hold in the playoffs.

I'm on board with adding Oladipo on the cheap for this reason. Definitely on board with Lavine at the right price too. Would love Beal but don't want a Carmelo situation where they empty the cupboard and Beal is riding solo with a bunch of castoffs.

also, saw this quote from Kobe about the young Randle. "He's Lamar Odom in Zach Randolph's body". That's been the tease and we're finally seeing it night after night. I love the guy. Can't believe I'm saying it.
I am not  
TommyWiseau : 2/22/2021 8:11 am : link
Trading for Oladipo. We need shooters and he is not it. If he came here in free agency, fine. But not giving up assets for him
RE: Curious to see if Woj takes any shots at Minny for this move.  
Stu11 : 2/22/2021 8:36 am : link
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How bout Carlisle? Kerr? Pop? Let’s hear from the Fiz Fan Club.

This x1000. Knicks caught a lot of heat from those guys.
RE: Curious to see if Woj takes any shots at Minny for this move.  
nygiants16 : 2/22/2021 8:38 am : link
In comment 15158427 bceagle05 said:
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How bout Carlisle? Kerr? Pop? Let’s hear from the Fiz Fan Club.


Remember that tweet woj had about how fiz was left with a rudderless roster and took the hit? well he deleted it because it was being retweeted after knicks beat the hawks
These bad shooting nights get tiresome FAST man.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/22/2021 8:48 am : link
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Center is a problem...  
Italianju : 2/22/2021 8:48 am : link
taj cant be relied on to play big minute every game. Noel is a better player when he is playing 20 minutes a game then 30. Its one of the reasons we are what his 4th team in 7 years or whatever. I like Noel a lot as a backup. And i like Taj as a 3rd string center. We need to hope that Mitch is on that early side of the timetable and def cant have any setbacks.

And man that wolves roster sucks. Obviously too early to tell what Edwards will be, but the rest, yeesh. Rubio is what he is a solid PG, Beasley is solid, but after that im not sure anyone on the roster could even crack the knick rotation. I get they are missing Russel, but still.
RE: RE: Curious to see if Woj takes any shots at Minny for this move.  
Stu11 : 2/22/2021 8:48 am : link
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How bout Carlisle? Kerr? Pop? Let’s hear from the Fiz Fan Club.



Remember that tweet woj had about how fiz was left with a rudderless roster and took the hit? well he deleted it because it was being retweeted after knicks beat the hawks

I mean we here on these threads are not shy about criticizing the Knicks, but the heat those guys gave the Knicks for firing a guy with a .200 winning % bordered on comical.
RE: RE: Curious to see if Woj takes any shots at Minny for this move.  
Enzo : 2/22/2021 9:23 am : link
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How bout Carlisle? Kerr? Pop? Let’s hear from the Fiz Fan Club.



Remember that tweet woj had about how fiz was left with a rudderless roster and took the hit? well he deleted it because it was being retweeted after knicks beat the hawks

Most of the time Woj just states the news...but when he injects his opinion you realize he really is the worst. Just a petty little bitch.
RE: Center is a problem...  
Enzo : 2/22/2021 9:25 am : link
In comment 15158460 Italianju said:
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taj cant be relied on to play big minute every game. Noel is a better player when he is playing 20 minutes a game then 30. Its one of the reasons we are what his 4th team in 7 years or whatever. I like Noel a lot as a backup. And i like Taj as a 3rd string center. We need to hope that Mitch is on that early side of the timetable and def cant have any setbacks.

it really wouldn't kill them to go with Randle at center for short stretches. Who knows, maybe Thibs will stumble onto an offense combination that can actually score a little bit.
RE: RE: Center is a problem...  
nygiants16 : 2/22/2021 9:30 am : link
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taj cant be relied on to play big minute every game. Noel is a better player when he is playing 20 minutes a game then 30. Its one of the reasons we are what his 4th team in 7 years or whatever. I like Noel a lot as a backup. And i like Taj as a 3rd string center. We need to hope that Mitch is on that early side of the timetable and def cant have any setbacks.


it really wouldn't kill them to go with Randle at center for short stretches. Who knows, maybe Thibs will stumble onto an offense combination that can actually score a little bit.


The game tomorrow would be the game to go small, Warriors have no bigs
Knicks need to be patient with C  
GMEN46 : 2/22/2021 9:47 am : link
There is no need to panic and trade for Drummond. Mitch will be back soon enough and he really anchors the defense and his hands are like Jerry Rice when compared to Nerlens Noel.
^^^^^  
Del Shofner : 2/22/2021 9:50 am : link
not sure I understand why they just let C Justin Patton go for nothing to the Rockets - OK, he signed a two-way so that's a professional courtesy but I don't think you're required to let a guy go if he's offered a two-way.

C Shittu is playing well offensively down there but I can't assess his D based on limited viewing time. There's also C Labissiere. But they don't seem interested in bringing up a third C while Mitch is out. Personally I think it would be a good idea - last night shows why - but what do I know.
RE: ^^^^^  
nygiants16 : 2/22/2021 9:54 am : link
In comment 15158489 Del Shofner said:
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not sure I understand why they just let C Justin Patton go for nothing to the Rockets - OK, he signed a two-way so that's a professional courtesy but I don't think you're required to let a guy go if he's offered a two-way.

C Shittu is playing well offensively down there but I can't assess his D based on limited viewing time. There's also C Labissiere. But they don't seem interested in bringing up a third C while Mitch is out. Personally I think it would be a good idea - last night shows why - but what do I know.


Knixks have no rights to the players on their g league team except for harper and iggy..

If Kbicks want to bring someone up  
nygiants16 : 2/22/2021 9:55 am : link
they will need to release a player
This was an impressive finish by RJ  
Heisenberg : 2/22/2021 10:08 am : link
To catch that and finish it was pretty slick. And RJ's defense on Edwards was really good I thought.
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Could Skal Labissiere help while Mitch is recovering  
Ira : 2/22/2021 10:17 am : link
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RE: Could Skal Labissiere help while Mitch is recovering  
nygiants16 : 2/22/2021 10:25 am : link
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who you cutting?
Spoke  
DanMetroMan : 2/22/2021 10:33 am : link
to a writer I know this weekend. Nothing cooking but the Knicks have let teams know that nobody is untouchable. They are looking to add to what they have but won't be shy moving 1 or more of the core if it "makes sense". They won't blow it up in the way they did for Melo. The expectation is they look to add ala Rose more than trade anybody off.
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Del Shofner : 2/22/2021 10:38 am : link
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who you cutting?


Harper or Pinson. What are the odds they ever see playing time with the big team?
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nygiants16 : 2/22/2021 10:39 am : link
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who you cutting?



Harper or Pinson. What are the odds they ever see playing time with the big team?


I think Pinson is a good locker room guy, id rather keep him..

for me it wouls be iggy
Bring in Mamadi Diakite!  
Greg from LI : 2/22/2021 10:51 am : link
Looking damned good in the G League so far - averaging 16.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg, and 2 blocks. Not a prolific outside shooter but he can knock down an open 3 (3-7 in 7 games). Good one on one defender, but a GREAT help defender.
i actually think last night  
ryanmkeane : 2/22/2021 11:02 am : link
shows the difference between this team and the Knicks of the last 7 years. They probably lose that game last night by 12. Instead, they held them off with good defense when they couldn't buy a bucket and still won by 4. The Wolves aren't good but there's been a few games this year where it was clear the Knicks of old would have lost easily. I know I'm searching for a positive but nights like that add up throughout a whole season.
RE: i actually think last night  
nygiants16 : 2/22/2021 11:04 am : link
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shows the difference between this team and the Knicks of the last 7 years. They probably lose that game last night by 12. Instead, they held them off with good defense when they couldn't buy a bucket and still won by 4. The Wolves aren't good but there's been a few games this year where it was clear the Knicks of old would have lost easily. I know I'm searching for a positive but nights like that add up throughout a whole season.


Last night was the opposite if what has usually been the case for the Knicks..

Usually its the Knicks making a 20 point comeback against a better team and coming up short
RE: You can tell why Thibs and Towns didnt get along  
djm : 2/22/2021 11:34 am : link
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softest big in the league


What bothers me about Towns is Butler and Thibs couldn't get the fuck out of Minny fast enough. I trust Butler and Thibs more than Towns, as talented and productive as he might be. I would be bothered by this chain of events if I was a Twolves fan.

Ugly win last night, but i'll take that over an even uglier loss.
It's encouraging that they stuck this out  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/22/2021 11:37 am : link
but file this less as a learning experience and more as a "holy fuck we should have lost this game."
Towns is soft.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/22/2021 11:46 am : link
But that dude has had a brutal year so I feel awful for him.
Tough week for the Mavs:  
bceagle05 : 2/22/2021 2:21 pm : link
Memphis, Boston, @Philly, @Brooklyn

Hopefully they drop three of four - Brooklyn better play two of their big three.
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