Which of these type of LBs would you prefer? Watching Collins highlights the only con I can even see is that he played weaker competition. He's big (could probably even shed a few), fast, instinctive, and a great tackler.
Parsons is a freak athlete, great pass rusher but has some character concerns and didnt play last year.
Collins can probably be had later in the 1st round, while Parsons will likely go around where the Giants pick, but I wouldnt even be upset if we picked Collins at 11.
Either way, you saw the impact a guy like Devin White had on the TB defense, and while LB isnt our #1 need these 2 guys can completely change our defense.
Given it appears they're building this defense from the inside out, and Parson has the higher talent level and pedigree while performing against top competition, figure he would have a leg up over Collins. The character stuff needs to be fleshed out, of course.
They've got bigger fish to fry than Tomlinson. That said, this might not be the offseason they find the right ugprade at WR. It's going to be interesting to see what their plan is next month.
Given it appears they're building this defense from the inside out, and Parson has the higher talent level and pedigree while performing against top competition, figure he would have a leg up over Collins. The character stuff needs to be fleshed out, of course.
Other than DL, what position is NOT a position of need. Running back? Safety maybe. Any others? Some would say QB I suppose.
Other than that, I think they are all needs.
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that's how you wind up less talented than you could be, more often than not.
Given it appears they're building this defense from the inside out, and Parson has the higher talent level and pedigree while performing against top competition, figure he would have a leg up over Collins. The character stuff needs to be fleshed out, of course.
Other than DL, what position is NOT a position of need. Running back? Safety maybe. Any others? Some would say QB I suppose.
Other than that, I think they are all needs.
They have key needs at premium positions that need to get settled, otherwise seasons will look a lot like 2020. WR is a big need, they need a boundary corner, their Edge talent is below average, and you could easily make an argument the OL still could need three new starters.
I keep seeing a ton of talent late in 1st.... would love a couple of picks
For Collins and Bateman
That is a great way of putting it, which means they have the luxury of taking the highest rated player on their board, or even trading back because most players are at a position of need.
Agreed, although I'd still go BPA in round two even if it's not WR.
I don't disagree, my point was to not focus too heavily on need in the draft. But, it sure seems the current front office is ok with being reactive in the draft. And, I think many here are too focused on filling holes with bodies rather than assembling talent that fits the blueprint.
Maybe a player like Justin Hilliard
In this defense,I think a pass rusher would be more valuable,or even a 2nd corner.
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that's how you wind up less talented than you could be, more often than not.
Given it appears they're building this defense from the inside out, and Parson has the higher talent level and pedigree while performing against top competition, figure he would have a leg up over Collins. The character stuff needs to be fleshed out, of course.
Other than DL, what position is NOT a position of need. Running back? Safety maybe. Any others? Some would say QB I suppose.
Other than that, I think they are all needs.
Center, Kicker, our long snapper last year looked good (no idea if he's a FA)
That said, all the more reason to draft the most talented player available who will also (basically by default) also fill a big need.
Isn't it wonderful to suck at so many things? ;)
Came in to say this exactly. If the coaching staff (Spencer) signs off on the "character" things with Parson's and he's there at 11 he'll likely be the BPA and you take him.
With Collins he'd only come into play with a trade down scenario or else he'd be a reach. For the record with only 6 picks and a lot of holes I'd love to see Gettleman trade back for the first time in his GM career.
Collins is lacking speed? He looks damn quick to me.
I must admit I am OK with most the picks projected to us this year. I have doubts about the Bama receivers because of size but they are both playmakers that we need so I will get behind it, if that is what we do.
No surprises please.
That is a pipedream. I don't see Collins getting anywhere near our second round pick.
The Patriots seem to like those kind of guys, don't they? I'm not a fan of this style of thinking but hey, I'm not the coach. I'd like to see us get a guy who can tackle well and be a threat to rush the passer on a consistent basis, but that's not what the Patriots like.
Edge
CB
OL
WR
TE
The top 4 receivers, Sewell and Parsons are the only "no brainers" at 11 for the Gmen IMO. 50/50 chance at best one of them is on the board, and most likely it would be one of the receivers. Not sold any CB is worthy of pick 11 vs a decent haul in a trade back.
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True thumper in the middle and use Parsons to rush a bit. Martinez Collins Parsons and we have linebackers like we have not seen in more than a decade?
That is a pipedream. I don't see Collins getting anywhere near our second round pick.