Cannabis is now legal in NJ, it seems. It happened today, under the radar.
Look for the end of 2021 to start being able to buy it recreationally in stores, optimistically. The commission has six months now to figure this stuff out, but when do committees like this ever deliver on time?
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Good for NJ.
Good for NJ.
Why?
Campaign slogan will be "Pot in every Bong !!"
Details on the Cannabis Tax and a fully Balanced New Jersey Budget to follow shortly after the Election.
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at this point, should be recalled/voted out/resign due to their overwhelming stupidity.
Good for NJ.
Why?
Why should weed be illegal to begin with is a better question. Personally, I think the fact drugs are illegal to begin with is pretty antithetical to American values (the whole goverment staying out of people's personal lives bit), but at least I can understand the thought process of having the harder stuff illegal. Marijuana is certainly more benign than Alcohol on that scale.
People are going to do drugs, they are fun, and you may want to try them some time. Making them illegal creates black market violence and the risk of shitty product which is much more dangerous for the end user. Treatments for people with issues (because it's taboo these are the people you tend to associate with drugs) is far more cost effective than what we currently do.
All this propaganda against drugs is nonsense. Most the people I know that do them are professional tax paying citizens with no issues. What I really don't understand is alcohol is probably the most dangerous drug when abused, both to your body and mental health, and yet I can go buy it probably 1000 places within 1 square mile of my apartment.
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In comment 15158757 Ben in Tampa said:
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at this point, should be recalled/voted out/resign due to their overwhelming stupidity.
Good for NJ.
Why?
Why should weed be illegal to begin with is a better question. Personally, I think the fact drugs are illegal to begin with is pretty antithetical to American values (the whole goverment staying out of people's personal lives bit), but at least I can understand the thought process of having the harder stuff illegal. Marijuana is certainly more benign than Alcohol on that scale.
People are going to do drugs, they are fun, and you may want to try them some time. Making them illegal creates black market violence and the risk of shitty product which is much more dangerous for the end user. Treatments for people with issues (because it's taboo these are the people you tend to associate with drugs) is far more cost effective than what we currently do.
All this propaganda against drugs is nonsense. Most the people I know that do them are professional tax paying citizens with no issues. What I really don't understand is alcohol is probably the most dangerous drug when abused, both to your body and mental health, and yet I can go buy it probably 1000 places within 1 square mile of my apartment.
Couldnt agree with you more....and I have no interest whatsoever in marijuana. Its been legal here in CO for so long now that it amuses me when I see people from other states discussing the legality issue. I dont even think about it anymore. Agree with your feeling on alcohol as well...thats the one I had issues with way back when, Luckily, I was able to realize that it had become an issue and I backed off, but yeah, never understood why mind altering substance (a) is legal while (b) isnt. And really, you can throw nicotine in to the mix as well as that substance continues to claim more lives year after year.
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How is CO suffering?
I have a lot of ambivalence. Although in my mind clearly safer than alcohol or tobacco, that doesn't mean safe, and actual research has been limited for decades based on arcane federal rules. I think legalization is good for racial equity, but I am not sure the government should be sanctioning it, but it makes it pretty easy to acquire, which is a good thing in my mind, and it is revenue for the state. But it really has taken a long time up here.
Without drawing too many parallels to Cannabis prohibition as it exists in most of the country, it does provide food for thought about life in this country would look like if we regulated cannabis like alcohol.
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In comment 15158763 DC Gmen Fan said:
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In comment 15158757 Ben in Tampa said:
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Couldnt agree with you more....and I have no interest whatsoever in marijuana. Its been legal here in CO for so long now that it amuses me when I see people from other states discussing the legality issue. I dont even think about it anymore. Agree with your feeling on alcohol as well...thats the one I had issues with way back when, Luckily, I was able to realize that it had become an issue and I backed off, but yeah, never understood why mind altering substance (a) is legal while (b) isnt. And really, you can throw nicotine in to the mix as well as that substance continues to claim more lives year after year.
I actually disagree with the nicotine thing. Nicotine isn't really the problem. It's the vehicles that are the issue, just full of garbage. Almost all of the studies done on nicotine have been around smoking and not just nicotine. I smoked for about a decade plus and am a serious health and fitness nut. Switched over to vaping and have no plans to quit. My inflammation is way down and I feel great all the time. Probably one of the bigger life changes I"ve made as far as cause and effect. Obviously it's not perfect, but as far as drugs go it's very benign as long as you are doing the right things (eating healthy, exercising) and I find the benefits to far outweigh the risk.
Yeah I'd love to hear how Colorado is "struggling". Place is a boom state. The only people I see take issue are the "won't somebody think of the children" pearl clutchers.
I have a lot of ambivalence. Although in my mind clearly safer than alcohol or tobacco, that doesn't mean safe, and actual research has been limited for decades based on arcane federal rules. I think legalization is good for racial equity, but I am not sure the government should be sanctioning it, but it makes it pretty easy to acquire, which is a good thing in my mind, and it is revenue for the state. But it really has taken a long time up here.
When we are talking about safety issues we need to be looking towards the crap people are eating in this country that is readily available, and mostly with the blessing of government subsidies. This has a much more impactful on society's well being as a whole. Shit we have a generation of seniors that are immobile because of the deterioration of their physical condition due to food and lack of activity and they sit around watching cable news all day riling them up. The care for these people is also a very expensive cost on society as well because we can keep people alive well past what is really natural now.
Lived in an over 55 building on the beach here in Florida for a few years and the amount of care and well being that those that took care of themselves, and the ones that didn't, is night and day.
I have pretty bad pain issues and get muscle relaxers and the occasional hydrocodone when the VA was still giving those out. Came across something called Kratom that works similarly to baclofen, opiates, and NSAIDS, but BETTER. Well not opiates, but they pretty much just shut off your brain and are addictive so there's that. It's a very interesting drug that comes from Asia with it's own history (banned in Thailand because it was cutting into Opium profits).
They have bars here in Florida that sell it and Kava and other non alcoholic things because it's been proven as a tremendous resource to get people off opiates (works for alcholics as well) as it works on the same receptors except for the high. The first time you take it, it just gives you this great sense of well being and makes you a bit chatty. Your body and brain builds up a tolerance fast other than the pain killing aspect. What's great is its self limiting, you can't overdoes on it because you will get very sick as soon as you take too much.
So what happens? Millions of veterans, addicts, and those suffering from long term pain issues take this, but than the lobbyists start busting in. You see this coordinated addict in the media and using politicians to scare people that it's a deadly addictive drug.
The DEA tried to make it illegal and was set until there was a massive outpouring of petitions saving how this product saved their lives. The issue is that it's fairly cheap and you can't really profit off it unless you make it illegal and than harness it into a pill and run a bunch of trials on it. This is exactly what they wanted to do. Problem is we are in the middle of an opiod crisis and millions of people suffering from pain (many veterans) and it really became non politically feasible to pass it. I don't know what I would have done if they passed it.
How long will it be before big Pharma companies get in on making marijuana products? The profit motive is there.
I have always been for legalized weed. My thought was to build warehouses in Mexico to grow the stuff and keep the people employed down there vs having them jump the border for work. This would be US gov't owned and guarded (from cartels) grow facilities. They earn tax dollars selling it to pharmacies where you can buy over the counter. Then, there is sales tax collected again at purchase.
The problem is you just cannot trust politicians. There is always the issue of what these assholes will do next. Suggest NOT trusting Murphy at all.
The government is not and has never been our friend.
Something like marijuana legalization just isn't going to happen until the government, big tobacco, and big pharma are ready to make the transition. It just is.
I have always been for legalized weed. My thought was to build warehouses in Mexico to grow the stuff and keep the people employed down there vs having them jump the border for work. This would be US gov't owned and guarded (from cartels) grow facilities. They earn tax dollars selling it to pharmacies where you can buy over the counter. Then, there is sales tax collected again at purchase.
The problem is you just cannot trust politicians. There is always the issue of what these assholes will do next. Suggest NOT trusting Murphy at all.
Growing it in Mexico is certainly not the answer. Plus Mexican weed is shit compared to what they are growing in Humboldt county. Why would we want to lose that revenue? If your worried about illegals hopping border for work, go after business owners that employ them.
Supply isn’t the issue anyway, there’s already too much weed grown. Distribution is the issue most places and how many regulations there are. And every state has its own wildly different set of rules. Work in the industry now so pretty familiar with this stuff.
But seriously, tbh, haven’t partaken in the wacky tobacco since the Giants were a decent NFL team. So like at least a decade. But I’m happy for my many THC friends.