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Giantsfan79 : 2/22/2021 6:42 pm
if he does how long before they become the Washington Prime?
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He should make Mara and offer  
gtt350 : 2/22/2021 7:18 pm : link
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RE: Lord,  
DonQuixote : 2/22/2021 7:18 pm : link
In comment 15158984 section125 said:
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he'd be worse than Snyder.


What reality are you in? It's not like he's muffed the other aspects of his career?
RE: You Don't Want Bezos as the Owner  
81_Great_Dane : 2/22/2021 7:30 pm : link
In comment 15158994 blright said:
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If this happens, you're trading Snyder, who flies by the seat of his pants, consistently makes stupid, short-sighted decisions, for Bezos, who is an an unemotional, analytical genius, and the creator of what may be one of the best logistical organizations ever created.

That's a bad trade for the Giants.
If I thought the Giants were a well-run organization, I'd welcome the competition, because good competition pushes any person or organization to improve.

However, I don't think the Giants are particularly well-run. Both owners inherited their shares; neither one built the organization or even built the bulk of their fortune, they just won the sperm lottery. Tisch at least has had a successful career in entertainment; the Maras have their seats because of their father and grandfather. It's a family business, and that shows. If the Giants have to compete with Amazon-level ferocity and thinking, we fans are kind of fucked.

You can see it already in MetLife vs. the Cowboys' edifice. Mediocrity vs. relentless drive to excel. The Giants reek of the former.
My gut tells me another team owner will be more willing  
Ben in Tampa : 2/22/2021 7:33 pm : link
than Snyder to cash out with Bezos. I just don’t see a snake like Dan Snyder going silently into the night.
Listen...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/22/2021 7:37 pm : link
I'm as frustrated with ownership as the next person, but this organization has won 2 Super Bowls in the past 15 years. The Cowboys haven't even been to a Super Bowl in 25 years. Let's hold off on anointing Stephen Jones as some football savant.
RE: This would be very bad news  
JohnB : 2/22/2021 7:41 pm : link
In comment 15159005 Jay on the Island said:
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Dan Snyder is the gift that keeps on giving if your a fan of the Giants, Eagles, or Cowboys. Since he bought the team the Redskins have been one of the worst run organizations in the NFL.


They were also this year's NFC East Champs. Just saying....

Wouldn’t there be a conflict of interest?  
Jolly Blue Giant : 2/22/2021 7:43 pm : link
I believe Amazon Video is getting some NFL broadcasting rights.
RE: Listen...  
81_Great_Dane : 2/22/2021 7:46 pm : link
In comment 15159021 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I'm as frustrated with ownership as the next person, but this organization has won 2 Super Bowls in the past 15 years. The Cowboys haven't even been to a Super Bowl in 25 years. Let's hold off on anointing Stephen Jones as some football savant.
I assume that was meant for me. I didn't mention Stephen Jones and yes, Dallas is perpetually overrated. Stephen Jones also won the sperm lottery, he's another guy who didn't win anything. But his father is still around. Wellington Mara is long gone and the Giants have been mostly mediocre and getting worse. And believe me, as someone who remembers what a clusterfuck the Giants were in the 70s, when Wellington took over for his brother and father, I have no particular nostalgia for him. Another guy who inherited his seat in the executive suite, rather than earning it.
_________  
I am Ninja : 2/22/2021 7:52 pm : link
Youd be a fool to celebrate this.
RE: RE: Listen...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/22/2021 7:53 pm : link
In comment 15159032 81_Great_Dane said:
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I'm as frustrated with ownership as the next person, but this organization has won 2 Super Bowls in the past 15 years. The Cowboys haven't even been to a Super Bowl in 25 years. Let's hold off on anointing Stephen Jones as some football savant.

I assume that was meant for me. I didn't mention Stephen Jones and yes, Dallas is perpetually overrated. Stephen Jones also won the sperm lottery, he's another guy who didn't win anything. But his father is still around. Wellington Mara is long gone and the Giants have been mostly mediocre and getting worse. And believe me, as someone who remembers what a clusterfuck the Giants were in the 70s, when Wellington took over for his brother and father, I have no particular nostalgia for him. Another guy who inherited his seat in the executive suite, rather than earning it.


It was meant for you & I don't necessarily disagree with anything you wrote. The Giants need an outside voice with no ties to the organization unlike DG, but I'm been banging that drum forever. If it wasn't for Rozelle...Lord knows what the last 42 years would look like.
The Washington Post... men?  
sb from NYT Forum : 2/22/2021 7:55 pm : link

Can he buy the Knicks too  
PhilSimms15 : 2/22/2021 8:09 pm : link
Please!
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christian : 2/22/2021 8:20 pm : link
Snyder and Bezos are both self-made guys who built their wealth.

One guy became the richest man in the world for a time and orchestrated two of the most dominant industry changing products the world has ever seen, the other is wildly rich but kind of plateaued and is a professional agitator now.

I know who’d I’d rather be running a rival team.
RE: RE: RE: Listen...  
Rory : 2/22/2021 8:33 pm : link
In comment 15159037 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I'm as frustrated with ownership as the next person, but this organization has won 2 Super Bowls in the past 15 years. The Cowboys haven't even been to a Super Bowl in 25 years. Let's hold off on anointing Stephen Jones as some football savant.

I assume that was meant for me. I didn't mention Stephen Jones and yes, Dallas is perpetually overrated. Stephen Jones also won the sperm lottery, he's another guy who didn't win anything. But his father is still around. Wellington Mara is long gone and the Giants have been mostly mediocre and getting worse. And believe me, as someone who remembers what a clusterfuck the Giants were in the 70s, when Wellington took over for his brother and father, I have no particular nostalgia for him. Another guy who inherited his seat in the executive suite, rather than earning it.



It was meant for you & I don't necessarily disagree with anything you wrote. The Giants need an outside voice with no ties to the organization unlike DG, but I'm been banging that drum forever. If it wasn't for Rozelle...Lord knows what the last 42 years would look like.


Being a Mets fan all my life I think I can speak to a certain degree of knowing what the fuck I'm talking about

The Giants and the Mara family are one of the last teams in sports that needs new ownership, its not even close.

You have no idea how good we have it as Giants fans.
RE: RE: Lord,  
joe48 : 2/22/2021 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15158985 Big Blue '56 said:
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he'd be worse than Snyder.










Not possible. :)
I hope so. He may to buy the league along with Gates, Zuckerberg and Cook.

They would be better off  
NJ_GIANTS : 2/22/2021 9:24 pm : link
I had an interview with Washington to come in and develop an IT strategy focused on data and analytics... they are a complete mess.. I’m not going to repeat the stories... but I can tell you the giants are years ahead of them. They are in the Stone Age as far as IT.. I was shocked..

I could imagine how good they could be if they actually had the right leadership and processes.
RE: They would be better off  
FStubbs : 2/22/2021 9:51 pm : link
In comment 15159073 NJ_GIANTS said:
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I had an interview with Washington to come in and develop an IT strategy focused on data and analytics... they are a complete mess.. I’m not going to repeat the stories... but I can tell you the giants are years ahead of them. They are in the Stone Age as far as IT.. I was shocked..

I could imagine how good they could be if they actually had the right leadership and processes.


I mean they have 3 GMs right now.
Bezos has completely destroyed the WaPo  
Vanzetti : 2/22/2021 10:13 pm : link
Turned it from a venerable objective newspaper into the equivalent of a social justice blog

Fired all the senior reporters and hired 25 year old freelancers (I.e. trust fund kids). He has young people with creative writing degrees from Oberlin reporting on the “science” behind covid.

So I would not be particularly worried about his becoming an NFL owner. You have to work with other owners to have influence. Bezos is a guy who will rub the other owners the wrong way, much like Jerrah.

Amazon also has a bad reputation with Gen Z so I don’t see young guys flicking to his standard
RE: They would be better off  
Zeke's Alibi : 2/22/2021 10:18 pm : link
In comment 15159073 NJ_GIANTS said:
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I had an interview with Washington to come in and develop an IT strategy focused on data and analytics... they are a complete mess.. I’m not going to repeat the stories... but I can tell you the giants are years ahead of them. They are in the Stone Age as far as IT.. I was shocked..

I could imagine how good they could be if they actually had the right leadership and processes.


When was this? I heard an interview with their new business side of the house GM and it seems like they updated all that in the past year.
The Washington Dick Pics  
widmerseyebrow : 2/22/2021 11:07 pm : link
has a nice ring to it.
RE: Bezos has completely destroyed the WaPo  
christian : 2/22/2021 11:33 pm : link
In comment 15159101 Vanzetti said:
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Turned it from a venerable objective newspaper into the equivalent of a social justice blog


In the time Bezos has owned the Post they’ve become profitable, expanded their newsroom to ~1000 staff, opened a number of international bureaus, and increased digital readership to 3 million.

I suspect you’re confusing how your politics are reported on and “destroyed” — as by all objective measures the Post is doing great under Bezos.
Let him name it the  
Bill in UT : 2/22/2021 11:49 pm : link
Washington Amazons, and make it an all-female team. He'll probably get extra draft picks for that. Rita Wilson can be the coach.
RE: Bezos has completely destroyed the WaPo  
montanagiant : 2/23/2021 12:34 am : link
In comment 15159101 Vanzetti said:
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Turned it from a venerable objective newspaper into the equivalent of a social justice blog

Fired all the senior reporters and hired 25 year old freelancers (I.e. trust fund kids). He has young people with creative writing degrees from Oberlin reporting on the “science” behind covid.

So I would not be particularly worried about his becoming an NFL owner. You have to work with other owners to have influence. Bezos is a guy who will rub the other owners the wrong way, much like Jerrah.

Amazon also has a bad reputation with Gen Z so I don’t see young guys flicking to his standard

WaPo won over 22 different awards in 2020 including AdWeek naming them the hottest in news and social media. They are the leader in digital aspects out of all the Newspapers in the country. I actually stopped counting at 22 awards as evident in the link below because I think the point was made
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RE: RE: RE: Listen...  
81_Great_Dane : 2/23/2021 12:46 am : link
In comment 15159037 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I'm as frustrated with ownership as the next person, but this organization has won 2 Super Bowls in the past 15 years. The Cowboys haven't even been to a Super Bowl in 25 years. Let's hold off on anointing Stephen Jones as some football savant.

I assume that was meant for me. I didn't mention Stephen Jones and yes, Dallas is perpetually overrated. Stephen Jones also won the sperm lottery, he's another guy who didn't win anything. But his father is still around. Wellington Mara is long gone and the Giants have been mostly mediocre and getting worse. And believe me, as someone who remembers what a clusterfuck the Giants were in the 70s, when Wellington took over for his brother and father, I have no particular nostalgia for him. Another guy who inherited his seat in the executive suite, rather than earning it.



It was meant for you & I don't necessarily disagree with anything you wrote. The Giants need an outside voice with no ties to the organization unlike DG, but I'm been banging that drum forever. If it wasn't for Rozelle...Lord knows what the last 42 years would look like.
You and I are pretty much on the same page. No disagreement on either side. Sheesh, these plutocrat owners.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Listen...  
81_Great_Dane : 2/23/2021 12:51 am : link
In comment 15159052 Rory said:
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In comment 15159032 81_Great_Dane said:


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I'm as frustrated with ownership as the next person, but this organization has won 2 Super Bowls in the past 15 years. The Cowboys haven't even been to a Super Bowl in 25 years. Let's hold off on anointing Stephen Jones as some football savant.

I assume that was meant for me. I didn't mention Stephen Jones and yes, Dallas is perpetually overrated. Stephen Jones also won the sperm lottery, he's another guy who didn't win anything. But his father is still around. Wellington Mara is long gone and the Giants have been mostly mediocre and getting worse. And believe me, as someone who remembers what a clusterfuck the Giants were in the 70s, when Wellington took over for his brother and father, I have no particular nostalgia for him. Another guy who inherited his seat in the executive suite, rather than earning it.



It was meant for you & I don't necessarily disagree with anything you wrote. The Giants need an outside voice with no ties to the organization unlike DG, but I'm been banging that drum forever. If it wasn't for Rozelle...Lord knows what the last 42 years would look like.



Being a Mets fan all my life I think I can speak to a certain degree of knowing what the fuck I'm talking about

The Giants and the Mara family are one of the last teams in sports that needs new ownership, its not even close.

You have no idea how good we have it as Giants fans.
Oh, having been a Mets and Giants fan since 1969, I have a pretty good idea how good we do and don't have it.

Excited about Steve Cohen. Meh about the Maras. They're better than the Wilpons, much better than James Dolan (another guy who inherited his money and never did a damned thing on his own). They're not cheap, they mean well, they want to win. They're just in jobs that no one would hire them for except themselves, and it shows.
RE: The Washington Post... men?  
Gman11 : 2/23/2021 6:46 am : link
In comment 15159039 sb from NYT Forum said:
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No, no, no. You make it a play on his name.

The Washington BOZOS
RE: Bezos has completely destroyed the WaPo  
Sec 103 : 2/23/2021 7:14 am : link
In comment 15159101 Vanzetti said:
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Turned it from a venerable objective newspaper into the equivalent of a social justice blog

Fired all the senior reporters and hired 25 year old freelancers (I.e. trust fund kids). He has young people with creative writing degrees from Oberlin reporting on the “science” behind covid.

So I would not be particularly worried about his becoming an NFL owner. You have to work with other owners to have influence. Bezos is a guy who will rub the other owners the wrong way, much like Jerrah.

Amazon also has a bad reputation with Gen Z so I don’t see young guys flicking to his standard

Very well put sir
you never wanted Lil Danny to sell.  
Victor in CT : 2/23/2021 7:15 am : link
he's the gift that keeps on giving.
NFL is set up for parity  
Lines of Scrimmage : 2/23/2021 8:36 am : link
Amazon has been a dominant company. Unfortunately they have crushed a lot of small businesses with their tactics along the way. The same tactics won't work in the NFL.
RE: Lord,  
Section331 : 2/23/2021 8:38 am : link
In comment 15158984 section125 said:
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he'd be worse than Snyder.


I disagree, he'd be our worst nightmare.
RE: They would be better off  
Bogey : 2/23/2021 8:45 am : link
In comment 15159073 NJ_GIANTS said:
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I had an interview with Washington to come in and develop an IT strategy focused on data and analytics... they are a complete mess.. I’m not going to repeat the stories... but I can tell you the giants are years ahead of them. They are in the Stone Age as far as IT.. I was shocked..

I could imagine how good they could be if they actually had the right leadership and processes.


This is funny considering they practice in the data center capital of the world.
I hope this doesn't happen  
Bear vs Shark : 2/23/2021 8:48 am : link
Bezos is competent and much more of a machiavellian, take over the world, win at all cost evil billionaire, as opposed to Snyders incompetent, so-egotistical-he-meddles-in-everything-and-knows-best billionaire.

He'd probably run a football team much better than Snyder.
It also should be noted, Amazon isn't where the money is,  
Section331 : 2/23/2021 8:48 am : link
AWS is. AWS controls over 50% of the web hosting universe.
Snyder is the worst owner in sports.  
NoPeanutz : 2/23/2021 8:51 am : link
Always doing just enough to hamstring his product and make the entire planet hate him and his team.

Bezos taking over would make them an instant threat, and would be a disaster to the division.
No way Snyder sells  
DC Gmen Fan : 2/23/2021 8:59 am : link
it's not about the money. His ego and pride won't let him give up on his fantasy football project because he hasn't accomplished anything yet.
RE: This would be very bad news  
Bramton1 : 2/23/2021 9:18 am : link
In comment 15159005 Jay on the Island said:
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Dan Snyder is the gift that keeps on giving if your a fan of the Giants, Eagles, or Cowboys. Since he bought the team the Redskins have been one of the worst run organizations in the NFL.


We talk about how badly the WFT is run, but they have 3 division titles since the last last time we won the East.

So really, who is the gift that keeps on giving? Snyder? Or Mara?
RE: RE: This would be very bad news  
John formerly in CharlotteNC : 2/23/2021 11:44 am : link
In comment 15159261 Bramton1 said:
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Dan Snyder is the gift that keeps on giving if your a fan of the Giants, Eagles, or Cowboys. Since he bought the team the Redskins have been one of the worst run organizations in the NFL.



We talk about how badly the WFT is run, but they have 3 division titles since the last last time we won the East.

So really, who is the gift that keeps on giving? Snyder? Or Mara?

You're kidding right? How many Super Bowls has Snyder won exactly? Comparing Mara and Snyder is not even close. Good lord some people just want to find a way to bash this team/owner
iirc those three playoff appearances  
NoPeanutz : 2/23/2021 11:46 am : link
are the ONLY DC playoff appearances in the last 30 years, since they won the title. That is NOT good. Mara's teams have been in the playoffs 93(11 wins), 97(10 wins), 00(12 wins), 05 (11 wins), 06, 07$(10 wins), 08(12 wins), 11$, 16(11 wins).

Snyder is terrible. His teams have never won more than 10 games, and they've only done that twice.

You can make the case that Mara is a bad owner- as if 2 titles since 2007 makes this a reasonable proposition. But I think that comparing Snyder favorably with him is making an error in judgment.
You doubt he sells  
90.Cal : 2/23/2021 11:55 am : link
Until the richest man in the world makes his offer.....
RE: It also should be noted, Amazon isn't where the money is,  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2021 12:40 pm : link
In comment 15159222 Section331 said:
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AWS is. AWS controls over 50% of the web hosting universe.


This is true. One of the group projects in a business management class I'm taking was on Amazon and I was shocked at how much of its revenues come from AWS rather than e-commerce.
RE: You doubt he sells  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2021 12:42 pm : link
In comment 15159483 90.Cal said:
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Until the richest man in the world makes his offer.....


Snyder may not be as wealthy as Bezos, but he is a billionaire. His personal valuation of the franchise likely far exceeds what anyone else would be willing to pay for it.
Buy the Giants?  
Thegratefulhead : 2/23/2021 12:55 pm : link
No really, it is a far better team to buy. Offer Mara and Tisch an offer they cannot refuse instead.
If he's looking to rescue a badly run enterprise  
TJ : 2/23/2021 6:43 pm : link
I wish he'd buy the knicks. I'm enjoying this season but I can't believe Dolan will keep his hands off long enough for the team to be consistently good again.
RE: RE: You doubt he sells  
spike : 2/23/2021 9:15 pm : link
In comment 15159560 Greg from LI said:
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Until the richest man in the world makes his offer.....



Snyder may not be as wealthy as Bezos, but he is a billionaire. His personal valuation of the franchise likely far exceeds what anyone else would be willing to pay for it.


no way he sells. It will pass onto his heirs
Can we get Bezos to make an offer  
.McL. : 2/23/2021 10:36 pm : link
to the Maras and Tischs they cannot refuse?

I agree with 81 Great Dane. The Maras (and Tischs) are wonderful people, they are not cheap, they want to win, but the league has evolved in ways that has left them in over their heads.

Bezos knows how to run an efficient organization. Amazon has been wildly successful in multiple arenas (failed in some, but so does every massive company). E-commerce, package logistics and delivery, web services & cloud technology, voice assistant and smart home devices, video streaming, audio streaming, grocery (Whole Foods), commercial AI & machine learning tools, publishing, and more... Anybody who can build an organization like that would be scary as an opposing owner... Much rather have him as my team's owner.
RE: RE: Bezos has completely destroyed the WaPo  
Route 9 : 2/26/2021 3:43 pm : link
In comment 15159130 christian said:
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In comment 15159101 Vanzetti said:


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Turned it from a venerable objective newspaper into the equivalent of a social justice blog



In the time Bezos has owned the Post they’ve become profitable, expanded their newsroom to ~1000 staff, opened a number of international bureaus, and increased digital readership to 3 million.

I suspect you’re confusing how your politics are reported on and “destroyed” — as by all objective measures the Post is doing great under Bezos.


He's not wrong about the writers at the WaPo. You think you're getting this seasoned mind - yet, young babysitters who have vocal fry and their articles are laden with typos, and they are the ones telling you how to think?

Stop and take a look at who writes these articles and you'll get a good laugh. Unless, that's your cup of tea.

Lol @ awards. Isn't Washington DC who is literally notorious for doing the beltway strategy?

In few words - we use each other (same 5 or 6 people) as sources so nothing contradicts our "unbiased" information. Lol.
RE: RE: RE: Bezos has completely destroyed the WaPo  
christian : 2/26/2021 4:45 pm : link
In comment 15162547 Route 9 said:
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In the time Bezos has owned the Post they’ve become profitable, expanded their newsroom to ~1000 staff, opened a number of international bureaus, and increased digital readership to 3 million.

I suspect you’re confusing how your politics are reported on and “destroyed” — as by all objective measures the Post is doing great under Bezos.



He's not wrong about the writers at the WaPo. You think you're getting this seasoned mind - yet, young babysitters who have vocal fry and their articles are laden with typos, and they are the ones telling you how to think?

Stop and take a look at who writes these articles and you'll get a good laugh. Unless, that's your cup of tea.

Lol @ awards. Isn't Washington DC who is literally notorious for doing the beltway strategy?

In few words - we use each other (same 5 or 6 people) as sources so nothing contradicts our "unbiased" information. Lol.


That's truly one of the most unintelligible responses I've read on BBI in 20 years. The irony that it comes on an exchange criticizing the work of journalists is biting and entertaining.

I've read the last two sentences of your post a dozen times, and have no idea what point you are making or to which you are responding.
The guy above me was right.  
Route 9 : 2/26/2021 7:13 pm : link
You read (and defend) crap journalists who use their own friends and use the same few writers (who only coincide with their own beliefs) as their only sources.

Always comical to when these "journalists" have to retract their articles and statements and then they get pissy when caught in the act.

Your heroes, not mine.
I subscribe to the Post.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/26/2021 7:19 pm : link
Good paper. I find it much better than the NYT.
RE: I subscribe to the Post.  
Route 9 : 2/26/2021 7:22 pm : link
In comment 15162657 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Good paper. I find it much better than the NYT.


Yeah. Agree with this. Then again, that isn't a very high set bar. Hate the Times. Hate them all. Haha.
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