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DL Christian Barmore at 11

adamg : 2/22/2021 9:47 pm
Remote throw or nah?
He looked great in the  
section125 : 2/22/2021 9:50 pm : link
CFB Champ game. But I think 11 is too high for him. Would need to be Aaron Donald level.
TV control device into the air.  
Red Dog : 2/22/2021 10:06 pm : link
my next BBI handle  
Del Shofner : 2/22/2021 10:08 pm : link
Earl D. Remote
Sure, if you think he is a better choice than ALL of these guys:  
81_Great_Dane : 2/22/2021 10:18 pm : link
Penei Sewell
Ja'Marr Chase
Davonta Smith
Jaylen Waddle
Kyle Pitts
Micah Parsons
Caleb Farley
Patrick Surtain II
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
Rashawn Slater
Gregory Rousseau
Jaycee Horn

That's 11 guys. One of them would be on the board for the Giants even if not a single QB goes in the top 10. Lawrence is going, so that means two. Zach Wilson makes three. If Trey Lance goes, that's four.

I guess the Giants' worst case scenario is that only Lawrence goes top-10 and only two of the players above are available, and it's someone they don't want, like maybe Paye or Horn. Unlikely but possible.

So take your "worst" picks from that list. (Mine would be Paye, Horn and maybe Slater. There's nothing wrong with Slater. I just don't want another first-round pick sunk into OT.) If you would rather have Barmore than any of your "worst" guys, yes, absolutely.

You might very well be right to want him, by the way. If they trade down, and if Tomlinson leaves, it's a strong possibility. Though I'd rather see either an impact receiver or an impact pass rusher in round 1.
bw in dc : 2/22/2021 10:19 pm : link
let's draft another DT after we fork over a gargantuan contract to LW for one great year.

This wouldn't be a remote thrower. This would be a remote smasher.
Vin_Cuccs : 2/22/2021 10:20 pm : link
If they re-sign Tomlinson, Williams, both, or neither. If both are back, not sure if that is a wise use of assets. Especially considering other holes on the roster.

He’d be a great target in a small trade down.
If They Lose Tomlinson,  
OntheRoad : 2/23/2021 12:07 am : link

Another DT would not necessarily be bad. Playing three huge linemen seemed to work well for the Giants last year. But only if BPA.
Looks like he can be a great player  
Breeze_94 : 2/23/2021 12:13 am : link
And not sure Tomlinson will be back.

While I wouldn’t love it, I wouldn’t hate it assuming WR is addressed in FA/R2, and CB/EDGE are also addressed with early picks/FA
Imagine a front 3 of  
Breeze_94 : 2/23/2021 12:18 am : link
Barmore- Lawrence- Williams

Barmore probably a step up from DT in terms of pass rushing ability

Then, if they add an EDGE guy like Lawson in FA or Roche in R3, that front 7 looks good on paper.

Would need a WR in the mix. Maybe sign Corey Davis and draft a guy in R4 (I really like Dazz Newsome) or draft Marshall/Collins in R2
drop a vet and add a redundancy ....  
Grizz99 : 2/23/2021 3:22 am : link
And AT BEST you're at even (though with a better cap situation..agreed)
I doubt he'd be better than Tomlinson - who is pretty much a given, consistent, a team leader and somewhat injury proof-
and he might be a lot worse.
But most importantly, you haven't improved.
If there's a replacement for Tomlinson it's BJ Hill, who would permit Lawrence to go to the nose. In that event, Tomlinson becomes expendable. Otherwise sign Tomlinson and use that precious draft pick at another position. Like most generalizations I'd add a qualifier: Unless Barmore is overwhelmingly the BPA.
Sure, why bother fielding an offense at all  
BillT : 2/23/2021 6:53 am : link
We could cut Shepard for the cap savings and while we’re at it trade Thomas for a good CB or EDGE guy. I’m sure trading Barkley could bring us whatever position we didn’t get in the Thomas trade. And we’d still have Engram for Jones to throw to. That would be enough, right.
Of all the names  
Straw Hat : 2/23/2021 7:34 am : link
Being talked about at 11, id want him over rosseau, or paye, but thats it. If we take rosseau or paye im going to projectile vomit across the room..
I want Barmore in the 2nd round  
JoeyBigBlue : 2/23/2021 7:36 am : link
But I doubt he’s there. He’ll go at the end of round 1.
well DG loves to control the A gaps  
Giantsfan79 : 2/23/2021 7:47 am : link
too bad the many teams in the NFL like stretch plays and no longer run between the guards.
That would be an Eli Apple level remote throw  
aGiantGuy : 2/23/2021 8:04 am : link
Watching the 49ers and Cardinals dismantle our defense with simple outside zone concepts should lead us to realize that the 3-4 is designed to let linebackers roam free and make plays.

If we have no playmaking is the point
Would be awful  
Tuckrule : 2/23/2021 8:32 am : link
We can’t invest more picks on the D line. We just can’t afford to do that

I agree with the poster above about Rousseau or paye. 2 terrible prospects in my mind not worthy of the 11th pick. Rousseau to me isn’t an edge player. He’s clearly a 4-3 DE. He will not stand up in the nfl and will not play in space. He isn’t even a scheme fit. Paye will be a victim of a lack of combine. If there was a combine he would be a standout. His film to me doesn’t look great. He isn’t explosive. I don’t see the freak tabs that he’s been labeled with.

I’ve been steady with my thought process. We need skill guys and offensive line help or a CB2 to compete with yiadom and love. That should be the focal point of this draft with the 11th pick and beyond. Realistically, at 11, the guys who can potentially be there who we may target, and some I don’t want, are:


Remote throw  
Biteymax22 : 2/23/2021 8:35 am : link
I can say with a lot of confidence he won't be BPA at 11. If something happens and he falls to us in the 2nd I'd be happy with him there.
He's a really good player,  
Section331 : 2/23/2021 8:37 am : link
but fuck no at 11. He's projected as, at best, a late 1st rounder, why would we overdraft at one of the few positions we are strong in?
Retaining Tomlinson in free agancy  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 2/23/2021 8:43 am : link
would be cheaper than getting a top end CB or WR. Do that in the draft.
Too early  
JonC : 2/23/2021 8:44 am : link
throw the remote.
Love the player  
Dankbeerman : 2/23/2021 9:12 am : link
but you cant take him at 11.
Throw the remote?  
JohnF : 2/23/2021 9:22 am : link
Not when I've just bought a $1,000 plus TV. However, I'd be up to Toilet Papering Met Life if they do that...though that might be an improvement.
ryanmkeane : 2/23/2021 9:25 am : link
that would be awful
Barmore at 11...  
BelieveJJ : 2/23/2021 10:34 am : link
Is like the last milf at the bar at 2...
would bet a big chunk of change  
bc4life : 2/23/2021 4:16 pm : link
he won't be the pick. value and need say edge or wr
Put me in remote throw category.  
Giant John : 2/23/2021 6:54 pm : link
Pay the guys we have.
He isn’t a front of the first round guy.  
Giant John : 2/23/2021 6:57 pm : link
Too much talent in front of him.
lugnut : 2/24/2021 9:03 am : link
BTW, Giants should not discount his most important "ability" -- availability. I don't think he's missed a game w/ us(?) That alone adds a LOT of value to him, can't just replace that w/ another draft pick or FA. I'd pay him.

And this is probably academic, but... If we back up the Brinks truck for LW and DT "has" to leave, then drafting DT actually makes a ton of sense as we'd get him for 4-5 years on a rookie cheap-o contract, no?
Spending a high draft pick on DL  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/24/2021 9:09 am : link
when this team needs so much at so many positions is bizarre.

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