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1984 Week 13 Chiefs at Giants: Full game

Jints in Carolina : 2/23/2021 11:12 am
Giants come back from 13 down in the 4th quarter

Don Criqui and Bob Trumpy on the call.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXxMQuwQao8 - ( New Window )
Big game  
Thegratefulhead : 2/23/2021 11:44 am : link
This is the moment I thought this team would win a Superbowl someday.
Before there was Mark Bavaro  
Poktown Pete : 2/23/2021 12:42 pm : link
for a brief but shiny time, we had Zeke Mowatt!

God, there are so many Giants to love from this era.
RE: Big game  
JonC : 2/23/2021 12:50 pm : link
In comment 15159465 Thegratefulhead said:
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This is the moment I thought this team would win a Superbowl someday.


Same, something about the team began to feel like it was emerging.
RE: RE: Big game  
Thegratefulhead : 2/23/2021 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15159566 JonC said:
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In comment 15159465 Thegratefulhead said:


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This is the moment I thought this team would win a Superbowl someday.



Same, something about the team began to feel like it was emerging.
We didn't win games like that before, I would see that stuff when Cowboys or 49er's played. It felt different. The bus ride to school felt different. I lived in northern Ocean County, more Eagle and Jet fans around me, that game me shit for years, for rooting for the Giants. I finally felt like it was going to be my turn. Loved the way it played it out.
sad seeing Kevin Belcher out there at C just becoming a force  
Victor in CT : 2/23/2021 1:39 pm : link
then he had that terrible car accident in the off season and his career was over. He would have been C for a long time.

RE: sad seeing Kevin Belcher out there at C just becoming a force  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2021 2:06 pm : link
In comment 15159607 Victor in CT said:
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then he had that terrible car accident in the off season and his career was over. He would have been C for a long time.


It's an interesting question to ponder - would they have been better with Belcher than Bart Oates? Oates certainly was no slouch himself, but he was more of a technician, kind of like O'Hara (but better than O'Hara IMO). Belcher was more of a power player.
RE: RE: sad seeing Kevin Belcher out there at C just becoming a force  
Victor in CT : 2/23/2021 2:33 pm : link
In comment 15159638 Greg from LI said:
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then he had that terrible car accident in the off season and his career was over. He would have been C for a long time.




It's an interesting question to ponder - would they have been better with Belcher than Bart Oates? Oates certainly was no slouch himself, but he was more of a technician, kind of like O'Hara (but better than O'Hara IMO). Belcher was more of a power player.


Sure is. I agree that Oates and O'Hara were similar in style and also that Oates was better (not by too much though). I think Belcher would ultimately have been better than Oates because he was more powerful and athletic, and by the end of '84 he had learned the technical aspect. I always had that "what if?" in my mind whenever they played the Eagles back then. Loved Oates and they were fortunate to get him, but he couldn't handle that Philly line.
RE: RE: RE: sad seeing Kevin Belcher out there at C just becoming a force  
Thegratefulhead : 2/23/2021 2:37 pm : link
In comment 15159674 Victor in CT said:
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then he had that terrible car accident in the off season and his career was over. He would have been C for a long time.




It's an interesting question to ponder - would they have been better with Belcher than Bart Oates? Oates certainly was no slouch himself, but he was more of a technician, kind of like O'Hara (but better than O'Hara IMO). Belcher was more of a power player.



Sure is. I agree that Oates and O'Hara were similar in style and also that Oates was better (not by too much though). I think Belcher would ultimately have been better than Oates because he was more powerful and athletic, and by the end of '84 he had learned the technical aspect. I always had that "what if?" in my mind whenever they played the Eagles back then. Loved Oates and they were fortunate to get him, but he couldn't handle that Philly line.
Was there any one person that could handle Jerome Brown and Reggie White?
RE: RE: RE: RE: sad seeing Kevin Belcher out there at C just becoming a force  
Victor in CT : 2/23/2021 2:44 pm : link
In comment 15159677 Thegratefulhead said:
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then he had that terrible car accident in the off season and his career was over. He would have been C for a long time.




It's an interesting question to ponder - would they have been better with Belcher than Bart Oates? Oates certainly was no slouch himself, but he was more of a technician, kind of like O'Hara (but better than O'Hara IMO). Belcher was more of a power player.



Sure is. I agree that Oates and O'Hara were similar in style and also that Oates was better (not by too much though). I think Belcher would ultimately have been better than Oates because he was more powerful and athletic, and by the end of '84 he had learned the technical aspect. I always had that "what if?" in my mind whenever they played the Eagles back then. Loved Oates and they were fortunate to get him, but he couldn't handle that Philly line.

Was there any one person that could handle Jerome Brown and Reggie White?


One weak link is all it takes, especially if its the C. They never had a pocket nor could could they run between the tackles against Philly.
I was working at Navy Broadcasting  
rebel yell : 2/23/2021 8:28 pm : link
in Guantanamao Bay, Cuba at the time. We had the same character generator for on-screen graphics. I forgot how God-awful that was.
RE: Big game  
short lease : 2/24/2021 7:19 pm : link
In comment 15159465 Thegratefulhead said:
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This is the moment I thought this team would win a Superbowl someday.


I forgot what game it was but, we were playing Dallas and I am pretty sure it was at home (but we were wearing the WHITE uniforms) _ maybe it was Parcell's "mind games" against Dallas?

Someone (Taylor?) forced a fumble and Andy Headon ran it back for a touchdown. We ended up beating Dallas something like 28 - 7? The LB crew we had back then was un-BELIEVABLE.

That was the game where I remember thinking

"This is not my Father's Giants anymore"
Did he say "Billy Ard" ....?  
short lease : 2/24/2021 7:25 pm : link


"Memories ... like the corners of my mind ...."
That was week 2  
Greg from LI : 2/24/2021 10:12 pm : link
That game used to be on YouTube, as I watched it before, but now only the highlights are. Yes, that was in the era when Parcells would wear white at home to force the Cowboys to wear their "bad luck" navy jerseys. Also interesting - Pat Summerall was announcing the US Open so it was Jack Buck on the call with Madden.
Criqui and Trumpy failed to mention Mowatt's tremendous game  
GeofromNJ : 2/26/2021 12:35 am : link
when recounting Giant heroes as the clock wound down. Pretty pathetic, I thought.
RE: That was week 2  
short lease : 3/2/2021 6:23 pm : link
In comment 15160969 Greg from LI said:
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That game used to be on YouTube, as I watched it before, but now only the highlights are. Yes, that was in the era when Parcells would wear white at home to force the Cowboys to wear their "bad luck" navy jerseys. Also interesting - Pat Summerall was announcing the US Open so it was Jack Buck on the call with Madden.


+1 ..


I think you were replying to me Greg?

That was my game Greg ... where it all seem to change for me. The "aha" light went on ....
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