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#BREAKING Agency at scene say @TigerWoods was injured in crash in Ranchos Palos Verdes at Hawthorne Blvd near Blackhorse Rd. Fire crews had to use jaws of life to get him out of vehicle. @KFIAM640 @FOXSports @AM570LASports @espn @TMZ_Sports
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Wow...praying for a speedy recovery for Tiger.
Tiger Woods was involved in a serious car accident Tuesday morning near Los Angeles and transported to a local hospital, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.
The one-car rollover crash occurred at 7:12 a.m. local time as Woods' vehicle was traveling north on Hawthorne Blvd. near Blackhorse Rd. on the border of Rancho Palos Verdes and Rolling Hills Estates.
According to the LASD, the jaws of life were needed to extract Woods from the vehicle.
Woods, 45, was in Los Angeles for the PGA Tour's Genesis Invitational, which his foundation runs. Woods, who is still recovering from a Dec. 23 back surgery, did not play in the tournament at Riviera, but he was on hand Sunday to join CBS' Jim Nantz in the booth and take part in the trophy presentation.
He then stayed in the LA area to do a two-day shoot with Golf Digest/Golf TV at Rolling Hills Country Club, according to Golf Digest, who added that Woods joined Dwayne Wade and David Spade for Monday's portion before not showing up Tuesday.
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My thing is if you’re a multi millionaire like him, why not have a regular driver?
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Seems to always be getting trouble in his car.
My thing is if you’re a multi millionaire like him, why not have a regular driver?
Maybe someone hit him? And can't "regular" drivers get in accidents too?
There's a picture of his car Schefter just posted, yikes.
Looks like he ended up quite a distance from the road.
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Seems to always be getting trouble in his car.
My thing is if you’re a multi millionaire like him, why not have a regular driver?
Ask Tracy Morgan how the 'regular driver' worked out. It is not the solution. Accidents happen.
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Seems to always be getting trouble in his car.
My thing is if you’re a multi millionaire like him, why not have a regular driver?
Maybe someone hit him? And can't "regular" drivers get in accidents too?
There's a picture of his car Schefter just posted, yikes.
Tiger’s got a history of DUI. Even if pills/booze were not a factor, the guy travels a shit ton. Why drive jet lagged if you don’t have to? And yes a
regular chauffeur could get into an accident but, the chances would be reduced.
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In comment 15159696 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Seems to always be getting trouble in his car.
My thing is if you’re a multi millionaire like him, why not have a regular driver?
Ask Tracy Morgan how the 'regular driver' worked out. It is not the solution. Accidents happen.
Tracy Morgan’s chauffeur wasn’t at fault. A Walmart truck driver drove 800 miles on no sleep and caused that.
And yes accidents happen. But considering Tiger’s previous history with DUIs and the fact that the dude must travel by plane everywhere, his risk could be reduced by having a professional driver for himself.
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In comment 15159696 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Seems to always be getting trouble in his car.
My thing is if you’re a multi millionaire like him, why not have a regular driver?
Maybe someone hit him? And can't "regular" drivers get in accidents too?
There's a picture of his car Schefter just posted, yikes.
Tiger’s got a history of DUI. Even if pills/booze were not a factor, the guy travels a shit ton. Why drive jet lagged if you don’t have to? And yes a
regular chauffeur could get into an accident but, the chances would be reduced.
He was already in CA; hosted a tournament last weekend and obviously hung out for a day at least after it ended.
This happened around 7:30 a.m. local time; you can see his bags stacked outside the SUV.
He's been in the middle of more back surgeries. Was he medicated today? Don't know.
In the interview I saw (part of) on Sunday, he looked a bit tired, unless I'm just not used to how he looks on camera now (!). He wouldn't express confidence in being able to get into even one prep tournament before the Masters in April.
If he has serious leg injuries (suggested above somewhere?), who knows how long it will be, if ever, before we see that again.
That happened to Ben Hogan. There's a 1951 film, "Follow the Sun," about, starring Glenn Ford.
What are you? 9 years old?
Dude. WTF?
Wouldn't surprise me if they are already speculating his golf career may be over. Seems like that would be jumping the gun unless it was VERY serioius.
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In comment 15159696 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Seems to always be getting trouble in his car.
My thing is if you’re a multi millionaire like him, why not have a regular driver?
Ask Tracy Morgan how the 'regular driver' worked out. It is not the solution. Accidents happen.
People also like to drive and/or get carsick when not driving. I can't stand being a passenger in a car, especially the back seat.
Hoping for a speedy recovery, and also hope it wasn't due to intoxication.
Well, at least you show consistency with bad football and now bad non-football posts. What a chucklehead...
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not sure he can make the green from there
Well, at least you show consistency with bad football and now bad non-football posts. What a chucklehead...
Seriously. What an awful post.
Best of luck to Tiger.
I’m on record as disliking Tiger, but I hope this wasn’t a drug or alcohol incident. He’s going to have enough on his plate with his physical recovery.
That makes me think that they are hearing he was badly hurt, even if his life isn't in danger. Certainly hearing he's in surgery for multiple leg injuries suggests that this was a bad accident. And we Giants fans remember Chad Jones, who nearly lost a leg in a single-car accident.
I’m on record as disliking Tiger, but I hope this wasn’t a drug or alcohol incident. He’s going to have enough on his plate with his physical recovery.
Trust me, there's a reason Florida car insurance is sky high. It's entirely possible it wasn't even his fault. Plus the time and day of the accident makes it seem like he was getting his day started.
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That’s going to lead to some questions. I’m sure they did toxicology on him.
I’m on record as disliking Tiger, but I hope this wasn’t a drug or alcohol incident. He’s going to have enough on his plate with his physical recovery.
Trust me, there's a reason Florida car insurance is sky high. It's entirely possible it wasn't even his fault. Plus the time and day of the accident makes it seem like he was getting his day started.
It didn't happen in Florida.
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That’s going to lead to some questions. I’m sure they did toxicology on him.
I’m on record as disliking Tiger, but I hope this wasn’t a drug or alcohol incident. He’s going to have enough on his plate with his physical recovery.
Trust me, there's a reason Florida car insurance is sky high. It's entirely possible it wasn't even his fault. Plus the time and day of the accident makes it seem like he was getting his day started.
It didn't happen in Florida.
lol, right. Or is Tiger the reason for high car insurance in FL?
Hope he’s ok.
1. His (recent) history with driving under the influence of pain meds, etc.
2. His recent back surgery which obviously comes with post op pain
3. He really appeared off in the interview with Nantz at Riviera Sunday.
4. Single vehicle accident at 7am.
I'm no investigator but it isn't a far stretch to think this could be self inflicted. I obviously hope I'm wrong and if I'm right, I truly hope he gets through this and gets the help he needs. I love Tiger.
Hope he’s ok.
Very familiar with that road while driving it to play some the the golf courses there. Not a place where you want to be speeding for sure.
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Is an accident trap. Downhill, steep, short approach to stop. Someone is posting on twitter that lives there and says accidents are a regular occurrence there, including herself, the poster.
Hope he’s ok.
Very familiar with that road while driving it to play some the the golf courses there. Not a place where you want to be speeding for sure.
Stan, isn't PV high school right there?
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Is an accident trap. Downhill, steep, short approach to stop. Someone is posting on twitter that lives there and says accidents are a regular occurrence there, including herself, the poster.
Hope he’s ok.
Very familiar with that road while driving it to play some the the golf courses there. Not a place where you want to be speeding for sure.
Stan, isn't PV high school right there?
Yeah. Right across the street.
Very familiar with that road while driving it to play some the the golf courses there. Not a place where you want to be speeding for sure.
The poor guy that killed himself a few years ago wadding up his Ferrari with Bill Haas in the passenger seat; same area?
Hope the surgeries go well.
And yes he looked "sleepy" in his interview with Dan Hicks on Sunday.
Hope the surgeries go well.
And yes he looked "sleepy" in his interview with Dan Hicks on Sunday.
He looked sleepy yesterday with Dwayne Wade as well.
He was on his way to commitment for Discovery. Spent yesterday and was suppose to be doing something for Discovery today
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Seems to always be getting trouble in his car.
My thing is if you’re a multi millionaire like him, why not have a regular driver?
Kobe had a regular pilot. Didn't end well.
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Very familiar with that road while driving it to play some the the golf courses there. Not a place where you want to be speeding for sure.
The poor guy that killed himself a few years ago wadding up his Ferrari with Bill Haas in the passenger seat; same area?
Don't recall that incident.
Yeah he had his fifth back surgery fairly recently.
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In comment 15159696 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Seems to always be getting trouble in his car.
My thing is if you’re a multi millionaire like him, why not have a regular driver?
Kobe had a regular pilot. Didn't end well.
Accidents and tragedies can happen to anyone. But when you consider that Tiger has a history of DUI and he’s coming off back surgery, a driver would not have been a bad idea. Maybe he was overtired because his back has been bothering him and he couldn’t sleep.
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In comment 15159710 Saquads26 said:
In the interview I saw (part of) on Sunday, he looked a bit tired, unless I'm just not used to how he looks on camera now (!). He wouldn't express confidence in being able to get into even one prep tournament before the Masters in April.
If he has serious leg injuries (suggested above somewhere?), who knows how long it will be, if ever, before we see that again.
That happened to Ben Hogan. There's a 1951 film, "Follow the Sun," about, starring Glenn Ford.
Don't want to speculate, but just saw that picture. From my personal experience, that 99% looks like a dude that's on drugs that hasn't slept or slept for little just trying to bulldog through the day. There's being on no sleep sober and no sleep on drugs. Certainly looked more the latter. Just imo.
The poor guy that killed himself a few years ago wadding up his Ferrari with Bill Haas in the passenger seat; same area?
Don't recall that incident.
2018 during Genesis open. Link below.
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Agreed - but Tiger is one of the few stars on the planet who have a larger than life status in the sports world; maybe others in the US are Jordan, Jeter, LeBron, Brady and a few others. While he's no longer in his prime he's still capable of winning a major, which is a little different than if Jordan was in a similar situation.
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In comment 15159805 Racer said:
The poor guy that killed himself a few years ago wadding up his Ferrari with Bill Haas in the passenger seat; same area?
Don't recall that incident.
2018 during Genesis open. Link below.
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Completely different area 30 miles apart, but Chautauqua is a winding, steep steep road where you have to be careful. Especially downhill.
Agreed - but Tiger is one of the few stars on the planet who have a larger than life status in the sports world; maybe others in the US are Jordan, Jeter, LeBron, Brady and a few others. While he's no longer in his prime he's still capable of winning a major, which is a little different than if Jordan was in a similar situation.
Perhaps he was still capable, but his chances were extremely remote. Beyond his health issues, his age alone would make a major victory highly, highly unlikey. Out of over 450 majors held, 3 have been won by someone older than Tiger. The last over 30 years ago before golfers typically did serious physical conditioning.
Don't want to speculate, but just saw that picture. From my personal experience, that 99% looks like a dude that's on drugs that hasn't slept or slept for little just trying to bulldog through the day. There's being on no sleep sober and no sleep on drugs. Certainly looked more the latter. Just imo.
You got all that from a picture of a wrecked car? Give me a fucking break. But you don’t want to speculate.
It’s a windy road, he could have taken a curve at too high a speed and lost control. Or an animal could have run in front of him. But I don’t want to speculate.
Any weird way to force this shit into any current situation ir conversation, lol. The guy I work with won't STFU about this either.
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Don't want to speculate, but just saw that picture. From my personal experience, that 99% looks like a dude that's on drugs that hasn't slept or slept for little just trying to bulldog through the day. There's being on no sleep sober and no sleep on drugs. Certainly looked more the latter. Just imo.
You got all that from a picture of a wrecked car? Give me a fucking break. But you don’t want to speculate.
It’s a windy road, he could have taken a curve at too high a speed and lost control. Or an animal could have run in front of him. But I don’t want to speculate.
I guess I wasn't completely clear, but I was responding to his comment from the interview. Saw a picture from that.
When I got prescribed Ambien it's a very interesting drug. I was straight out for like 7 hours, would occasional sleep eat, and your tolerance certainly goes up. You'd wake up like you slept, but not well rested. Also some cognitive issues as far as learning goes on a daily basis which I guess 90 percent of the people that take it have no idea is a side effect. Probably why so many idiots walking around just prescription drugged up to the gills living in blissful ignorance.
Totally disagree. I think in a weird way with everything he’s gone though, then winning the Masters, he’s as popular as ever.
I saw him at the Tour Championship in Atlanta on a Saturday in 2018. The crowd definitely followed him, but not at the level they did when I was at the '06 PGA Championship the Saturday of that tournament.
Far more.
Jack has always been and will always be the GOAT.
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I don't think Woods is on the MJ/LeBron level in 2021. 2008? Sure, but his star has fallen quite a bit.
Totally disagree. I think in a weird way with everything he’s gone though, then winning the Masters, he’s as popular as ever.
I was pretty indifferent on Tiger, but that documentary that just came out made me like him a lot.
Prayers for a full recovery so he can enjoy his children.
Yeah just losers like Arnold Palmer, Gary player, Lee Trevino, Tom Watson...Tiger in fact had a distinct lack of competition especially early in his career.
Hope it wasn't his femur, but since it the ankle I'd guess Tibia or fibula(lower leg).
From the look of that wreck, yes it could have been a lot worse.
Not sure how he's not at the Jordan, Gretzky, LeBron level of star (in 2021), IMO he definitely is.
Not just casual interest either, playing and watching.
Hope he fully recovers.
Comminuted open fractures affecting both the upper and lower portions of the tibia and fibula bones were stabilized by inserting a rod into the tibia. Additional injuries to the bones of the foot and ankle were stabilized with a combination of screws and pins," Mahajan added. "Trauma to the muscle and soft-tissue of the leg required surgical release of the covering of the muscles to relieve pressure due to swelling."
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Side note i'm sure the leg trauma treatment came first but i'm wondering if he did any additional damage to his back. Really hope not.
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what competition did he have? Tiger is the GOAT.
Yeah just losers like Arnold Palmer, Gary player, Lee Trevino, Tom Watson...Tiger in fact had a distinct lack of competition especially early in his career.
Exactly. They were always trying to find someone to make his rival, the sports media anyway. They tried with David Duval, then it was Sergio Garcia, and then Mickelson. Mickelson was probably the closest thing to a real competitor, but not really.
I’m not minimizing Tiger at all, but Nicklaus definitely faced tougher competition and you also have to keep in mind the technology differences between Nicklaus’ era and Tiger’s. Try hitting some blades irons from the 60’s or 70’s vs. the equipment of the late 90’s and beyond.
Seems very fortunate to be alive or not hurt much worse.
I also think some of his top end competition has been short changed - Phil, Ernie, Singh and to an extent McIlroy have all been good competition. But the explosion of talent has really kept it from being as top heavy as it was 25+ years ago.
There's also been a massive and frequent change to courses and equipment, something that's also leveled the playing field.
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what competition did he have? Tiger is the GOAT.
Yeah just losers like Arnold Palmer, Gary player, Lee Trevino, Tom Watson...Tiger in fact had a distinct lack of competition especially early in his career.
Exactly. They were always trying to find someone to make his rival, the sports media anyway. They tried with David Duval, then it was Sergio Garcia, and then Mickelson. Mickelson was probably the closest thing to a real competitor, but not really.
I’m not minimizing Tiger at all, but Nicklaus definitely faced tougher competition and you also have to keep in mind the technology differences between Nicklaus’ era and Tiger’s. Try hitting some blades irons from the 60’s or 70’s vs. the equipment of the late 90’s and beyond.
How did Ncklaus face tougher competition? There were and and are more golfers playing today than there were 40 years ago. And the tech advances go both ways. Tiger certainly reaps the rewards of that tech but so does the competition.
More golfers means more comp. Tiger also had to clear many more hurdles than Jack did. Not to mention his wack job father and the pressures that brought with it.
Prayers to Tiger for a full recovery. Quite honestly we all should be thankful that Tiger is alive.
I also think some of his top end competition has been short changed - Phil, Ernie, Singh and to an extent McIlroy have all been good competition. But the explosion of talent has really kept it from being as top heavy as it was 25+ years ago.
There's also been a massive and frequent change to courses and equipment, something that's also leveled the playing field.
Yeh that’s the thing. The level of talent in golf once Tiger hit his 30s was at an all time high ironically all because of him.
holy shit, I'm no doctor but seems like he's lucky he didn't lose that leg.
How did Ncklaus face tougher competition? There were and and are more golfers playing today than there were 40 years ago. And the tech advances go both ways. Tiger certainly reaps the rewards of that tech but so does the competition.
The money available in modern golf is a double edge sword. Yes - it’s made the overall level of competition higher, as more players can afford to stay on tour. But perversely it’s meant that fewer players reach the truly elite level.
Over 100 tour players now earn over $1 million a year. That’s less than it seems since golfers have high expenses they have to pay - their caddy, travel, hotels, etc. But even after that you make a pretty comfortable living.
And that’s the problem - players can make a nice living without making family sacrificies. Players who could be great and win handfuls of majors don’t reach that level. Michelson for example had the talent to win 5-6 more majors. But he didn’t make the sacrifices until later in his career when his kids were older.
In Jack’s day that wasn’t an option. If you didn’t win, you weren’t going to be able to stay out on tour very long. As a result, many talented golfers left the tour before they made it. But on the other hand, it drove more golfers to reach to reach the truly elite level: Palmer. Player, Watson, Trevino, Ballesteros. Tiger didn’t face that level of elite.
Prayers for a full recovery so he can enjoy his children.
If they went head to head at their peak of their primes, I would bet my house Tiger would beat Jack.
I wouldn't count out Tiger either. He can definitely come back from this. I do worry more about his back long term than the leg injuries...
Where did you see this?
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Where did you see this?
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Anish Mahajan, chief medical officer at Harbor-UCLA hospital where Woods is being treated, revealed he has suffered 'comminuted open fractures affecting both the upper and lower portions of the tibia and fibula bones.'
That means the bones - more commonly known as the shinbone and calf bone - have splintered into more than two pieces, and have come through the skin.
Woods also suffered 'additional injuries to the bones of the foot and ankle', Mahajan said, without elaborating further.
In order to treat the injuries, Mahajan said a metal rod was inserted into Woods' tibia which is being stabilized with rods and pins.
Additional screws and pins have been inserted into his foot and ankle, Mahajan added.
Membranes covering Woods' leg muscles were also cut to relieve pressure in the leg from swelling, he said.
He described the injuries as 'serious', and could not give a prognosis or say whether Woods will be able to play golf again.
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A report today said he was traveling at a high rate of speed and hit the curb which sent him into the other lane. At that point, there wouldn't have been much he could have done to brake or stop the car as it started to roll.
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What an accomplishment by Nicklaus who is the GOAT.. Woods a close second. All the golf pros can thank Woods for the prize money increases over the past 25 years.
Prayers for a full recovery so he can enjoy his children.
If they went head to head at their peak of their primes, I would bet my house Tiger would beat Jack.
Of all the things you would bet your house on, this is it?
Jack was the goods too so hopefully you can find a safer bet...
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What an accomplishment by Nicklaus who is the GOAT.. Woods a close second. All the golf pros can thank Woods for the prize money increases over the past 25 years.
Prayers for a full recovery so he can enjoy his children.
If they went head to head at their peak of their primes, I would bet my house Tiger would beat Jack.
I wouldn't count out Tiger either. He can definitely come back from this. I do worry more about his back long term than the leg injuries...
Eli is 2 for 2 vs Brady. Who's the GOAT?
Certainly there's more to being good at golf than just being able to hit the ball a mile, but that would give anyone an advantage. And is there any specific aspect of the game where one could say Jack would've had a clear advantage?
People seem to forget (maybe they never saw Jack play ) as to how far he outhit his competition. Just sayin!!!
Certainly there's more to being good at golf than just being able to hit the ball a mile, but that would give anyone an advantage. And is there any specific aspect of the game where one could say Jack would've had a clear advantage?
Yes, driving accuracy, which was always the weakest area, in Tigers game. No pun intended.
People seem to forget (maybe they never saw Jack play ) as to how far he outhit his competition. Just sayin!!!
Not to discredit Woods' accolades, but technology in golf ball/club engineering was in a "boom" in the early-mid 2000's and in a time where most tour folks eval'd their game just by merely hitting balls on range with the coach behind them to see how "it" flew. Nike invested a ton in technology for Woods' game and they got into the ball/club game and did fairly well with his name brand.....it surely helped him beat a lot of the competition early on. Being 20 years old and likely a true pioneer to promote technology in golf shafts/balls helped him greatly in a field of aging country clubbers.
Jack and Tiger had every shot in the bag, played a set of blades at the time, and putters were clutch....that's one thing technology doesn't necessarily enhance...even today. I think it was more of an opportune time for Tigers success with the 'tech" boom. He's still a great and sadly won't play for a while, if ever again professionally.
People seem to forget (maybe they never saw Jack play ) as to how far he outhit his competition. Just sayin!!!
Persimmon and a balata ball 275 yds...I'd imagine his game today would be just as elite if not more today. The balata balls i've hit back in the day spun a ton and wouldn't last more than 9 holes without wedge tear.
And is there any specific aspect of the game where one could say Jack would've had a clear advantage?
Tiger may have juiced a little also when he sized up....purely speculative, but wouldn't be surprised. Jack only juiced up with drinks after a win.
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Can you imagine what distance Nicklaus would get in his prime with current driver and ball technology. I am sure he would be one of the longest hitters on the tour.
People seem to forget (maybe they never saw Jack play ) as to how far he outhit his competition. Just sayin!!!
Not to discredit Woods' accolades, but technology in golf ball/club engineering was in a "boom" in the early-mid 2000's and in a time where most tour folks eval'd their game just by merely hitting balls on range with the coach behind them to see how "it" flew. Nike invested a ton in technology for Woods' game and they got into the ball/club game and did fairly well with his name brand.....it surely helped him beat a lot of the competition early on. Being 20 years old and likely a true pioneer to promote technology in golf shafts/balls helped him greatly in a field of aging country clubbers.
Jack and Tiger had every shot in the bag, played a set of blades at the time, and putters were clutch....that's one thing technology doesn't necessarily enhance...even today. I think it was more of an opportune time for Tigers success with the 'tech" boom. He's still a great and sadly won't play for a while, if ever again professionally.
Disagree. Nike clubs were hot garbage. They sold because of tiger. Now tiger wasn't playing the crap nike was selling.
Tiger and Jack both played blades. The club heads in blades haven't changed much over the years. The difference in the shafts. Advantage tiger.
Driver is a different animal. As a decent player, about a 10 handicap from the time I was 18 until now (54), the fact that I hit it further now than I did playing persimmon wood at 18 I think Jack would hit it just as far as the guys do today.
It's not about equipment or who they played against. Jack just had a better career.
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Can you imagine what distance Nicklaus would get in his prime with current driver and ball technology. I am sure he would be one of the longest hitters on the tour.
People seem to forget (maybe they never saw Jack play ) as to how far he outhit his competition. Just sayin!!!
Not to discredit Woods' accolades, but technology in golf ball/club engineering was in a "boom" in the early-mid 2000's and in a time where most tour folks eval'd their game just by merely hitting balls on range with the coach behind them to see how "it" flew. Nike invested a ton in technology for Woods' game and they got into the ball/club game and did fairly well with his name brand.....it surely helped him beat a lot of the competition early on. Being 20 years old and likely a true pioneer to promote technology in golf shafts/balls helped him greatly in a field of aging country clubbers.
Jack and Tiger had every shot in the bag, played a set of blades at the time, and putters were clutch....that's one thing technology doesn't necessarily enhance...even today. I think it was more of an opportune time for Tigers success with the 'tech" boom. He's still a great and sadly won't play for a while, if ever again professionally.
Disagree. Nike clubs were hot garbage. They sold because of tiger. Now tiger wasn't playing the crap nike was selling.
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Bro ya should agree, Never said the clubs were good and never played em either. Yes, they sold because of Tiger's name brand, and yes he didn't play off-the-shelf stuff.
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