Hard to say after just one season, but I "think" the Giants had a pretty good 2020 Draft. But none of our players show up on Ourlads' 1st or 2nd All-Rookie Team. And here is a list of Offensive Linemen -- no Andrew Thomas (ouch):
First Team
OL Tristan Wirfs Tampa Bay
OL Michael Onwenu New England
OL Jedrick Wills Jr. Cleveland
OL Mekhi Becton New York Jets
OL Lloyd Cushenberry Denver
Second Team
OL Kevin Dotson Pittsburgh
OL Damien Lewis Seattle
OL Jonah Jackson Detroit
OL Solomon Kindley Miami
OL Cesar Ruiz New Orleans
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Question: Are we still in inefficient scouting quagmire that's been going on for years? And if so, why?
Allpro? Idk. Think we should have a solid long range OLT
No, he doesn't look like a bad first rounder unless you don't know what you're looking at.
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Gets Thomas playing up to his peers. If not, looks like another bad first rounder from Dave...
No, he doesn't look like a bad first rounder unless you don't know what you're looking at.
Thank you.
Wirfs played RT with Tom Brady as QB. Having someone like Brady makes OL look better than they are. Thomas is the only other rookie OT besides Becton who played significant snaps at LT. He made a lot of progress as the season progressed. He probably would have had better "stats" with a healthy Will Hernandez next to him all year. Shane helped the running game, but he was way more destructive in pass protection versus Will.
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Gets Thomas playing up to his peers. If not, looks like another bad first rounder from Dave...
No, he doesn't look like a bad first rounder unless you don't know what you're looking at.
When you’re picking 4th overall and you have the pick of the litter at OT, the guy had better develop into a top 5-7 player at his position. Obviously Thomas has time on his side to develop, but maybe I’m nuts but when you pick 2, 6, and 4 overall in a draft, is it unreasonable to expect an all pro caliber player? Or have expectations/standards among this fan base sunk to a point where if a guy is serviceable, the GM has done well here?
In other words, with more experience under his belt and a better coach than Colombo he'll be much better in 2021.
In other words, with more experience under his belt and a better coach than Colombo he'll be much better in 2021.
Not to mention a healthy wheel.
I give the guy huge credit for never once mentioning his injury or coming close to using it as an excuse at any time during the year.
When he had any poor play he just said he had to keep working and get better. Guy to me looks like what we want in a NYG player.,
Wirfs played RT with Tom Brady as QB. Having someone like Brady makes OL look better than they are. Thomas is the only other rookie OT besides Becton who played significant snaps at LT. He made a lot of progress as the season progressed. He probably would have had better "stats" with a healthy Will Hernandez next to him all year. Shane helped the running game, but he was way more destructive in pass protection versus Will.
You've got it backwards. Thomas pass blocked horribly with Hernandez next to him, then started playing better with Lemieux. In fact, every LT that has played next to Hernandez has looked bad.
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But he couldn't stay healthy.
Wirfs played RT with Tom Brady as QB. Having someone like Brady makes OL look better than they are. Thomas is the only other rookie OT besides Becton who played significant snaps at LT. He made a lot of progress as the season progressed. He probably would have had better "stats" with a healthy Will Hernandez next to him all year. Shane helped the running game, but he was way more destructive in pass protection versus Will.
You've got it backwards. Thomas pass blocked horribly with Hernandez next to him, then started playing better with Lemieux. In fact, every LT that has played next to Hernandez has looked bad.
Agreed that both Solder and Thomas have struggled next to Hernandez, but their struggles are predominately their own and should be held accountable for them.
Thomas played pretty well in second half of the year and hopefully he can build on that.
Will Hernandez needs to worry about his own job as he is trending himself to the bench and possibly off of this team in the near future...
Thomas is already better than Wirfs and Wills. Seriously.
Not sure who Andrews is...
Odell..?
Funny, I dont recall any of the top 4 OT's as being "sure things". In fact, the way I recall the situation was it seemed most scouts were all over the place with their rankings, meaning you could have a 1,2,3 or 4 ranking for each guy depending on who you listened to. And regarding Wirfs, I agree he was great this past year....BUT....he was a RT. Thomas played LT. Huge difference there...different positions. There is a reason that the blindside protectors get paid the $$$$ that they do.
He can clearly play at a high level but the injuries are slightly concerning already.
I did not see the other two, but I am fine with Thomas.
LG and RT are still needed....at least further development from the rookies
So you think last year was year 1 for Jones?
That's a new low.
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But he couldn't stay healthy.
Wirfs played RT with Tom Brady as QB. Having someone like Brady makes OL look better than they are. Thomas is the only other rookie OT besides Becton who played significant snaps at LT. He made a lot of progress as the season progressed. He probably would have had better "stats" with a healthy Will Hernandez next to him all year. Shane helped the running game, but he was way more destructive in pass protection versus Will.
You've got it backwards. Thomas pass blocked horribly with Hernandez next to him, then started playing better with Lemieux. In fact, every LT that has played next to Hernandez has looked bad.
I don't even HALF Like hernandez, but unless you can tell me what he was doing to sink his Left Tackles, you're just talking
They won the Super Bowl, and he still considered it a lost year of development. Let’s keep that in mind as we grade rookies.
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