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Wilson wants out of Seattle- Jets, Mia, NO and LA named

Judge_and_Jury : 2/25/2021 11:39 am
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Russell Wilson's camp has approached the Seattle Seahawks for a potential trade, per @MikeDugar, @SandoNFL and @JaysonJenks

Potential destinations include: Dolphins, Jets, Saints, and Raiders.

Wow...just wow.
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The psychological impact  
JB_in_DC : 2/25/2021 11:44 am : link
of losing at home to Colt McCoy is immense. Will shape the future of the league.
Good  
Thegratefulhead : 2/25/2021 11:45 am : link
If he goes to the Raiders the AFC west will get REALLY interesting. Vegas would go nuts.

FWIW Yes, I think the Giants should kick the tires and offer Jones and whatever they want. Also, I know it will not happen. I would try though.
RE: The psychological impact  
Eli Wilson : 2/25/2021 11:46 am : link
In comment 15161319 JB_in_DC said:
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of losing at home to Colt McCoy is immense. Will shape the future of the league.


Awesome - best laugh I've had so far today.
hope its AFC  
UConn4523 : 2/25/2021 11:46 am : link
the Saints would be infuriating
Miami makes a lot of sense...  
bw in dc : 2/25/2021 11:49 am : link
with his celebrity wife and all of the assets they have...
That's...  
bw in dc : 2/25/2021 11:50 am : link
assets Miami has in picks.
I think this is a really  
Jon in NYC : 2/25/2021 11:51 am : link
dumb move. Who has a better duo of receivers than Metcalf and Lockett? Get him some OL help, he'll be fine.
RE: I think this is a really  
UConn4523 : 2/25/2021 11:52 am : link
In comment 15161337 Jon in NYC said:
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dumb move. Who has a better duo of receivers than Metcalf and Lockett? Get him some OL help, he'll be fine.


Its beyond weapons, has to be. The relationship seems fractured.
Wilson vs. Carroll...  
sb from NYT Forum : 2/25/2021 11:52 am : link


RE: The psychological impact  
chick310 : 2/25/2021 11:54 am : link
In comment 15161319 JB_in_DC said:
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of losing at home to Colt McCoy is immense. Will shape the future of the league.


Well done here.
pretty crazy  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 2/25/2021 12:01 pm : link
that's it going down like this.

I know Seahawks fans have been pissed at Carroll's offense for a long time, sounds like Wilson feels the same way.
Big Dead Cap hit for them  
Eli Wilson : 2/25/2021 12:01 pm : link
$58MM if he's traded this off-season.
RE: I think this is a really  
GoDeep13 : 2/25/2021 12:05 pm : link
In comment 15161337 Jon in NYC said:
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dumb move. Who has a better duo of receivers than Metcalf and Lockett? Get him some OL help, he'll be fine.
Didnt he promise DK he’d make him a Hall of Famer or something along those lines?
The saints have no cap space  
Chip : 2/25/2021 12:07 pm : link
scratch that one off the list
65 million signing bonus  
Chip : 2/25/2021 12:11 pm : link
I wonder if he is willing to send some of that back. Probably not. Sounds like he is being quite selfish.
Going to NO doesn't seem fiscally possible.  
Tom in NY : 2/25/2021 12:13 pm : link
NO has to dump something like $80MM in cap dollars just to get to max...how would Wilson's salary fit into that mess?
RE: Miami makes a lot of sense...  
Tom in NY : 2/25/2021 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15161333 bw in dc said:
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with his celebrity wife and all of the assets they have...


I believe Miami has it's eyes on Watson....younger and probably a better fit for what they are trying to build.
RE: Big Dead Cap hit for them  
giants#1 : 2/25/2021 12:15 pm : link
In comment 15161349 Eli Wilson said:
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$58MM if he's traded this off-season.


Not quite that bad. *Only* $39M dead money if he's traded since his $19M base is picked up by the acquiring team. It would cost an additional $7M in 2021 cap space for Seattle though, so no clue why they would do it.
If I had to guess  
BigBlueShock : 2/25/2021 12:17 pm : link
Seattle would fire Carroll before trading Wilson. Carroll has probably exceeded his expiration date in Seattle anyways. If this is a relationship issue, Carroll is the one to go, IMO.
If Miami goes after him or Watson  
NoPeanutz : 2/25/2021 12:23 pm : link
that means that they will have spent a 1 (#5 overall) a 2 and a 5 on starting QBs that don't play. And that's all on one coach. Yikes.
RE: pretty crazy  
Toth029 : 2/25/2021 12:29 pm : link
In comment 15161348 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
[quote] that's it going down like this.

I know Seahawks fans have been pissed at Carroll's offense for a long time, sounds like Wilson feels the same way. [/quote
He literally IUST re-signed there. He had his choice of OC. He loved Schottenheimer.

Wilson didn't play well in the playoffs and when his cap figure is so high, it is harder to build around the rest of the team. Superstar QB's raise the level of the team. Don't they? Seattle hasn't been the same since LOB departed and Lynch left.
i don't think he goes anywhere this year  
GiantsFan84 : 2/25/2021 12:35 pm : link
i have a hard time evaluating wilson. he's terrific don't get me wrong but most of his plays come on scrambles and he isn't a rhythm drop back passer. i don't think he'd have a better situation than he currently has either w Metcalf and Lockett

and that team is not far off. i'd be very wary of trading for russ
What is going on  
90.Cal : 2/25/2021 12:37 pm : link
Two top 5 QB's are demanding trades... then there is that embarrassment in Green Bay with those clowns spending a first round pick on a QB, trying to push out the guy who just goes on to win the league MVP... that could be the next big name QB wanting out soon... crazy times...
RE: RE: pretty crazy  
UConn4523 : 2/25/2021 12:37 pm : link
In comment 15161392 Toth029 said:
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In comment 15161348 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
[quote] that's it going down like this.

I know Seahawks fans have been pissed at Carroll's offense for a long time, sounds like Wilson feels the same way. [/quote
He literally IUST re-signed there. He had his choice of OC. He loved Schottenheimer.

Wilson didn't play well in the playoffs and when his cap figure is so high, it is harder to build around the rest of the team. Superstar QB's raise the level of the team. Don't they? Seattle hasn't been the same since LOB departed and Lynch left.


Yes but its also drafting. The LOB was all (I believe) drafted by the Seahawks. That just nailed it and rode it all the way to a title (should have been 2).
I'd take Watson over  
HoodieGelo : 2/25/2021 12:45 pm : link
Wilson any day of the week. Deshaun is 7 years younger. Wilson chokes.
Wilson  
Sammo85 : 2/25/2021 12:46 pm : link
after a hot start had three games where he pretty much single-handedly lost them this year.

He's talented, but he's become a diva/headcase too. Doesn't take accountability for bad play and blames the "system".

Yes, his OL has been shaky too, but he's become a boom or bust QB in games.

I think the Seahawks are willing to move on and are getting annoyed with him at this point. If they can get a 1st rounder I could see them trying to get Wilson or Lance.
RE: The psychological impact  
Victor in CT : 2/25/2021 12:46 pm : link
In comment 15161319 JB_in_DC said:
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of losing at home to Colt McCoy is immense. Will shape the future of the league.


LOL.

How about the psychological impact of your HC not overriding the all time dumbest call in the history of sports costing him a 2nd SB win? Or living with the fact that he didn't have the balls to call an audible and just hand it to Lynch to win the game? They haven't had a whiff since and he's getting older.
Some reasons why Wilson wants out  
Des51 : 2/25/2021 12:54 pm : link
are in this article.
Report: Russell Wilson - ( New Window )
RE: RE: pretty crazy  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 2/25/2021 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15161392 Toth029 said:
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In comment 15161348 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
[quote] that's it going down like this.

I know Seahawks fans have been pissed at Carroll's offense for a long time, sounds like Wilson feels the same way. [/quote
He literally IUST re-signed there. He had his choice of OC. He loved Schottenheimer.

Wilson didn't play well in the playoffs and when his cap figure is so high, it is harder to build around the rest of the team. Superstar QB's raise the level of the team. Don't they? Seattle hasn't been the same since LOB departed and Lynch left.


Wilson definitely deserves some of the blame. His backyard style of playmaking needs to be toned down. But at the same time, the Seahawks' conservative and boring playcalling is something that has been very noticeable over the last couple of years.
And it's true  
Toth029 : 2/25/2021 1:11 pm : link
"Imagine being paid $35 million a year to storm out of meetings and go home to a pop star wife to vent. He has a difficult life."

He's got a big ego and feels he's better than he is.
Is there a difference  
Dnew15 : 2/25/2021 1:13 pm : link
between NFL QBs and NBA superstars anymore?
Welcome to the NBA  
HomerJones45 : 2/25/2021 1:24 pm : link
Wilson wants to run the team. They let him have his way at the beginning of the season until he turned the ball over 7 times in two games. And gee, the HC, who I guess thought he was in charge, had his own ideas and didn't take Russell's ideas to fix the offense. Russell did not take kindly to that. What no doubt made it worse was that Seattle won 6 of the next 7 games without taking Russell's suggestions so now Pete thinks he is even more in charge.

I'm guessing Seattle will demand a king's ransom and between that and Russell's contract there will be no trade (if Russell thinks he's going to tell the HC's in NO and LA how to run things, he's mistaken), and Pete and Russell will kiss and make up.
There seems to be a belief that next year is a weak QB draft class  
UberAlias : 2/25/2021 1:36 pm : link
Between the big named veterans out there and this rookie class, it sort of feels like musical chairs. Someone's going to miss out.
RE: I think this is a really  
FStubbs : 2/25/2021 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15161337 Jon in NYC said:
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dumb move. Who has a better duo of receivers than Metcalf and Lockett? Get him some OL help, he'll be fine.


It's not the weapons, it's the offensive line.
IIRC his wife loved NY and wanted  
Simms11 : 2/25/2021 2:09 pm : link
to come back. I would certainly check and see what they would want. It’s probably going to cost more then we’d be willing to pony up however and that would be both draft picks and potentially players.
RE: If Miami goes after him or Watson  
aGiantGuy : 2/25/2021 2:26 pm : link
In comment 15161384 NoPeanutz said:
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that means that they will have spent a 1 (#5 overall) a 2 and a 5 on starting QBs that don't play. And that's all on one coach. Yikes.


I don’t get this critique.
Flores, to me, is beyond reproach, he went from worse roster in the NFL to the playoffs in one year. Is being economical with draft capital somehow more important than winning?

If he gets any of these 2 QB’s, it’s game over for the AFC East, regardless of cost.
Wilson's beef is legit  
Go Terps : 2/25/2021 2:30 pm : link
Carroll does some good things as coach, but he's an albatross on the offense.
RE: RE: I think this is a really  
Toth029 : 2/25/2021 2:33 pm : link
In comment 15161483 FStubbs said:
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In comment 15161337 Jon in NYC said:


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dumb move. Who has a better duo of receivers than Metcalf and Lockett? Get him some OL help, he'll be fine.



It's not the weapons, it's the offensive line.


It's also the QB.

Sacks aren't only an OL stat.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/25/2021 2:33 pm : link
I hope he ends up in the AFC.
If he wants Chicago  
jvm52106 : 2/25/2021 2:43 pm : link
the Bears should serious look into it.
There are about 25 teams that should be calling Seattle  
Go Terps : 2/25/2021 2:45 pm : link
Wilson's an elite player.
RE: RE: If Miami goes after him or Watson  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/25/2021 2:50 pm : link
In comment 15161541 aGiantGuy said:
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In comment 15161384 NoPeanutz said:


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that means that they will have spent a 1 (#5 overall) a 2 and a 5 on starting QBs that don't play. And that's all on one coach. Yikes.



I don’t get this critique.
Flores, to me, is beyond reproach, he went from worse roster in the NFL to the playoffs in one year. Is being economical with draft capital somehow more important than winning?

If he gets any of these 2 QB’s, it’s game over for the AFC East, regardless of cost.


Buffalo may have a lot to say about that!
RE: RE: If Miami goes after him or Watson  
NoPeanutz : 2/25/2021 2:57 pm : link
In comment 15161541 aGiantGuy said:
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In comment 15161384 NoPeanutz said:


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that means that they will have spent a 1 (#5 overall) a 2 and a 5 on starting QBs that don't play. And that's all on one coach. Yikes.



I don’t get this critique.
Flores, to me, is beyond reproach, he went from worse roster in the NFL to the playoffs in one year. Is being economical with draft capital somehow more important than winning?

If he gets any of these 2 QB’s, it’s game over for the AFC East, regardless of cost.


It's a possible refutation about the dogma that a franchise QB is necessary to win, or it means that chickens are on their way home to roost bc Miami is on the verge of blowing so many picks.
RE: I'd take Watson over  
Section331 : 2/25/2021 2:58 pm : link
In comment 15161420 HoodieGelo said:
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Wilson any day of the week. Deshaun is 7 years younger. Wilson chokes.


I get the age thing, but Wilson has been to 2 SB's, winning one. Watson has a single playoff win.
Carrol versus Wilson  
Lines of Scrimmage : 2/25/2021 3:00 pm : link
PC has been around 10 years and 70 at season's start. His best teams were when he had a great defense and RW's contract puts enormous pressure on drafting well. I could see him willing to trade him and go back to the model that worked for him. Really depends on who is really in charge imo.

Interestingly Brady and the two Manning's are the only QB's to win a SB on second and third contracts. The money the QB's are getting nowadays makes it really hard. Something I think franchises will look more at.
What is it with all these high profile QB's...  
D HOS : 2/25/2021 3:03 pm : link
...wanting to move themselves around the league? I do not believe I have noticed this kind of a situation before. Have I just missed or forgotten about something? Or is this new? What's going on?
RE: If he wants Chicago  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/25/2021 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15161561 jvm52106 said:
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the Bears should serious look into it.


He'd be the Bears best QB in like 80 years. No joke either. That organization never strikes it big on a QB.
Agent says Wilson wants to stay in Seattle but  
shyster : 2/25/2021 3:05 pm : link
in the event of a trade he does have preferences. Will only consider Dallas, NO, Bears, Raiders.

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Russell Wilson has told the Seahawks he wants to play in Seattle but, if a trade were considered, the only teams he would go to are the Cowboys, Saints, Raiders and Bears, his agent Mark Rodgers said to ESPN.
2:28 PM · Feb 25, 2021


link - ( New Window )
Wilson's grievances...  
Jimmy Googs : 2/25/2021 3:29 pm : link
Sources have told ESPN that Wilson's frustrations with the organization go beyond pass protection and his perceived lack of say in personnel decisions relative to other top quarterbacks -- the two issues he recently cited in public interviews. Wilson also wants more of Seattle's offense to go through him, as reported in The Athletic.


Who are the other QBs that he is speaking about? Probably Tom Brady I guess, but who else...
LOL - Not Jets...  
scotepsu22 : 2/25/2021 3:58 pm : link
He mentioned Cowboys, which would make way more sense if they don't sign Dak to a long term deal.
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