I’ve been seeing some mocks where he has been dropping. Heading into the season, he was generating a lot of buzz as a top 5 pick. It seems now there is an emphasis on the QB’s with the possibility of Wilson, Fields & Lance all going in the top 10 after Lawrence. In addition, the top WR’s, Pitts & defensive players could go ahead of Sewell.
I highly doubt he is available and probably doesn’t get past the Bengals, but the thought of having young, bookend tackles is exciting. It could really speed up the rebuild and help on offense despite the lack of playmakers other than Barkley.
That’s disappointing. This OL still needs work and it’s more important than any WR. Didn’t we just live this with Beckham?
Exactly. Sewell would be overspending on the OL. They can probably still get an OL starter in the 2nd either at G or RT.
I wish you were wrong but I think you're right. And I don't care fro that approach, nor am I sold on either of those WRs. Both are risky, Waddle more so because of the ankle.
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if they Giants picked Sewell or even Slater. They're probably hellbent on adding a WR, if Smith or Waddle are available.
That’s disappointing. This OL still needs work and it’s more important than any WR. Didn’t we just live this with Beckham?
They're not going to relive 2020 if they can avoid it.
Originally, I thought Sewell looked so good in 2019 because he was playing next to Lemieux but after watching Lemieux in 2020, I decided Sewell did most of the good work on his own.
I’d be more than happy if Sewell dropped and the Giants took him. The OL would be set for years.
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if they Giants picked Sewell or even Slater. They're probably hellbent on adding a WR, if Smith or Waddle are available.
That’s disappointing. This OL still needs work and it’s more important than any WR. Didn’t we just live this with Beckham?
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Shepard, Slayton, and Tate weren't the reason they averaged 17.5 PPG. And a rookie receiver isn't going to come in and fix the scheme or the quarterback.
Looking at four years in a row of picking am offensive player high in the first round and still having a bad offense. Incredible.
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if they Giants picked Sewell or even Slater. They're probably hellbent on adding a WR, if Smith or Waddle are available.
That’s disappointing. This OL still needs work and it’s more important than any WR. Didn’t we just live this with Beckham?
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Shepard, Slayton, and Tate weren't the reason they averaged 17.5 PPG. And a rookie receiver isn't going to come in and fix the scheme or the quarterback.
Looking at four years in a row of picking am offensive player high in the first round and still having a bad offense. Incredible.
calling it a bad offense is too kind
Bobby Hart should be able to hold the fort for them next year. lol
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if they Giants picked Sewell or even Slater. They're probably hellbent on adding a WR, if Smith or Waddle are available.
That’s disappointing. This OL still needs work and it’s more important than any WR. Didn’t we just live this with Beckham?
If the offensive line still needs another top pick invested to fix it, than the person who was charged with correcting the oline should not be making this pick.
You really think so?
I've had the impression the current regime doesn't put the same value on WR as they used to.
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if they Giants picked Sewell or even Slater. They're probably hellbent on adding a WR, if Smith or Waddle are available.
You really think so?
I've had the impression the current regime doesn't put the same value on WR as they used to.
I think they're going to (over)react to the poor passing attack, in order to give Jones weapons.
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if they Giants picked Sewell or even Slater. They're probably hellbent on adding a WR, if Smith or Waddle are available.
You really think so?
I've had the impression the current regime doesn't put the same value on WR as they used to.
I think they're going to (over)react to the poor passing attack, in order to give Jones weapons.
Adding to your statement we’ve found that Gettleman tends to “hide in plain sight” and at some point in the offseason he usually tells us what he’s going to do. When he said we’re adding weapons I’m assuming that unless we sign some guys in FA pick 11 will be a “weapon” either WR or Pitts.
There are all kinds of outcomes, all over the place, but Sewell almost never falls to 11. Lawrence and Wilson never fall that far, and Sewell almost never. Farley, same. Chase falls to the Giants much more often than Sewell.
Lawrence and Wilson, fuggedabout it.
Sewell, not impossible, but highly unlikely. Something like 1% of sims.
Farley: Rarely falls to 11, I'm guessing maybe 3-5% of sims.
Lance: Similar to Farley.
Chase: Not likely but certainly possible, falls to Giants in something like 7-10% of sims.
Smith: More often than Chase, something like 15-20%.
Waddle: More often than Smith, about 25%. Presumably that's because they're factoring concerns about his size and injury.
Pitts: About 50-50
Surtain, Paye, Parsons, Owusu-Koramoah -- available at 11 more often than not, but not always.
Rousseau and Horn pretty much always available at 11. Rousseau is ranked something like #13 on PFN but often falls beyond that in their sims. One sim last night had Rousseau fall all the way to the Giants' 2nd-round pick. That's even rarer than Sewell falling to 11.
Jonah Williams finally played a full season last year, after missing his rookie year, and looked pretty good. So he may be their solution at LT.
I wouldn't bet against Sewell or Slater being the pick if they are still on the Board. If they can run the ball effectively - passing game will automatically get better. In fact, I would bet if the OT and WR are there that they like - they take OL. Tackles are too hard to find, you pretty much have to draft them.,
You could also call it flapdoodle, jobberwocky, or simply pure misdirection BS.
I wouldn't bet against Sewell or Slater being the pick if they are still on the Board. If they can run the ball effectively - passing game will automatically get better. In fact, I would bet if the OT and WR are there that they like - they take OL. Tackles are too hard to find, you pretty much have to draft them.,
There are going to be some very, very good receiver prospects available rounds 2-5. Not every guy will be a scheme fit for every team, but there are going to be lots of options. Can't get Davonta Smith? Maybe take Tylan Wallace or Dyami Brown. Don't want to spend an early pick on Rashod Bateman or Terrace Marshall? There will be big "X" types Nico Collins, Seth Williams, Sage Surratt and Tamorrian Terry. Missed out on Kadarius Toney for slot? Try Tutu Atwell, Rondale Moore, Elijah Moore, Amari Rodgers or one of a dozen other short, fast guys.
I believe in attacking the biggest problem right away, and taking a WR in the first if you think one is worth your pick. (I think the Giants might put Bateman or Marshall higher on their board than Waddle — but high enough to take at 11?) But if you are willing to go by need, not BPA, in the later rounds, you could get 2-3 receivers, or 2 receivers and a TE.
You could also call it flapdoodle, jobberwocky, or simply pure misdirection BS.
I don't think Sewell is dropping based his play. It seems the skill players on rising based on need and that's just naturally pushing Sewell down...
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if they Giants picked Sewell or even Slater. They're probably hellbent on adding a WR, if Smith or Waddle are available.
That’s disappointing. This OL still needs work and it’s more important than any WR. Didn’t we just live this with Beckham?
They're not going to relive 2020 if they can avoid it.
If they’re pot committed to a WR at 11 then they’re simply continuing to make the same mistakes that’s led to them picking in the top 10 year in year out.
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Rumors that he is "dropping"are just that - rumors.
You could also call it flapdoodle, jobberwocky, or simply pure misdirection BS.
I don't think Sewell is dropping based his play. It seems the skill players on rising based on need and that's just naturally pushing Sewell down...
How so? Do the math! There are 4-5 teams in the top 10 draft slots who might be looking at QBs: Jags, Jets, Eagles, Lions and Panthers, and the Eagles have Hurts, the Jets have Darnold, and we're not sure either of those two really want to reload at QB just yet, since neither one is getting Lawrence.
There are 4 potential receivers among the top 10, but Waddle has had injuries and both he and Smith are on the small size for the NFL.
Who else is "moving up the boards" and displacing Sewell down? CBs Surtain and Farley? Farley didn't play all year and Surtain has ??? about his speed and agility really being elite NFL level.
Not to mention CB is NOT a premium pick to the extent that OLT is. Not remotely close.
Nobody is even that sure if either of Surtain or Farley are much better prospects than Horn, whereas Sewell is in a class of his own considering his play, youth, and athletic measureables.
Skills players "moving up" and displacing Sewell down is a pipe dream of your own vivid imagination. Looking at the "top" 20 pundits' mocks, how many have Sewell lasting past 5, let alone out of the top 10!