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SuperRonJohnson : 2/28/2021 9:46 am
I don't have anything newsworthy to share. But we have not had an active thread for a few days. So anyone got anything to talk Mets?
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RE: RE: Lindor  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 10:30 am : link
In comment 15164667 pjcas18 said:
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is already viewed as a leader in the clubhouse, has been talking to the kids, as well as working with Davis on positioning. When fans act as if simply replacing stats X with stats Y it's not as simple as that. Lindor is a special guy.


I don't view it as stats for stats, but i do view it as the Mets gave up a decent amount to get him, so I feel it's important that he's re-signed. The leadership stuff is gravy to me. Important and underappreciated perhaps but mostly he's one of the best SS's in the game.


Quite frankly, his "cost" was known. Everybody knows Lindor is going to get 8-10 years at nearly 300 million. So while it's not my money, if you make that trade (barring suddenly his ask being well beyond what everyone, including what Lindor asked the Indians for) then the trade suddenly becomes a dumb one.

One year of Lindor at the cost they gave up to then sign someone else makes very little sense. It's not as if a Baez/Correa/Story are going to be substantially cheaper (if they have good seasons), and you don't particularly want them if they do not.
INTL Sign  
GF1080 : 3/2/2021 10:31 am : link
Jacob Resnick
@Jacob_Resnick
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4m
The #Mets are expected to sign OF Simon Juan for "close to $2 million" when the 2021-22 international signing period opens, per Baseball America.

Juan trains with Rafael Furcal. BA writes that he "has a chance to be a power/speed threat in the middle of the diamond."
RE: INTL Sign  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 10:33 am : link
In comment 15164681 GF1080 said:
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Jacob Resnick
@Jacob_Resnick
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4m
The #Mets are expected to sign OF Simon Juan for "close to $2 million" when the 2021-22 international signing period opens, per Baseball America.

Juan trains with Rafael Furcal. BA writes that he "has a chance to be a power/speed threat in the middle of the diamond."


This wouldn't happen until next January. BA ranks him the #13 IFA. 2 million isn't a ton anymore(even to the Mets under Fred). They signed Alex Ramirez just last year for 2.05.
Looks  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 10:37 am : link
like both the Indians and Mets were aware Callaway was a trash human. How is he still employed by the Angels? lol
.  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 10:37 am : link
John Flanigan
@jflan816
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36m
On the Coming to America jacket Lindor said, “that’s the beauty of being in New York, you get whatever you want, I guess.”
RE: RE: RE: Lindor  
pjcas18 : 3/2/2021 10:45 am : link
In comment 15164676 DanMetroMan said:
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is already viewed as a leader in the clubhouse, has been talking to the kids, as well as working with Davis on positioning. When fans act as if simply replacing stats X with stats Y it's not as simple as that. Lindor is a special guy.


I don't view it as stats for stats, but i do view it as the Mets gave up a decent amount to get him, so I feel it's important that he's re-signed. The leadership stuff is gravy to me. Important and underappreciated perhaps but mostly he's one of the best SS's in the game.



Quite frankly, his "cost" was known. Everybody knows Lindor is going to get 8-10 years at nearly 300 million. So while it's not my money, if you make that trade (barring suddenly his ask being well beyond what everyone, including what Lindor asked the Indians for) then the trade suddenly becomes a dumb one.

One year of Lindor at the cost they gave up to then sign someone else makes very little sense. It's not as if a Baez/Correa/Story are going to be substantially cheaper (if they have good seasons), and you don't particularly want them if they do not.


Right, but until it's done IMO there is a risk it doesn't get done.

I think the Mets know pretty close to the framework of what Lindor and Conforto will take.

Not quite as sure on Syndergaard, he's got something to prove, but probably have a good idea on him too.
Conforto  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 11:00 am : link
(who I 1000% hope they keep) is more of a wildcard to me. Boras and a truly horrendous OF market coming up. If Conforto puts up a season that looks like his 2020 he's looking at more money than Springer pretty easily.
Out of options  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 11:02 am : link
Mets

Miguel Castro, P
Jacob Barnes, P
Tomas Nido, C
Nick Francona  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 12:27 pm : link
Dick Pick Mick  
jlukes : 3/2/2021 1:04 pm : link
hahaha
.  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 1:15 pm : link
Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
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Stroman 1-2-3 first inning.
Game is on  
JayBinQueens : 3/2/2021 1:20 pm : link
SNY if anyone is working from home
Stroman  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 1:34 pm : link
2 perfect, velocity not in mid-season form yet. 91-92, looked like he was experimenting with different delayed releases
McNeil HR  
KDavies : 3/2/2021 1:38 pm : link
first run of the spring.
.  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 1:52 pm : link
Tim Britton
@TimBritton
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1m
James McCann cuts down the first attempted basestealer of the season. That's another point of emphasis for the Mets this spring.
RE: Nick Francona  
JB_in_DC : 3/2/2021 1:55 pm : link
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lol this guy LOVES attention.
I  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 2:03 pm : link
don't care how he gets outs but this is something a P says when their velocity is down, never when it's not.

Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
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41s
Stroman: “Velocity will never dictate if I am good or not. My stuff is nasty.”
Yep, lol  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/2/2021 2:04 pm : link
.
McCann's  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 2:05 pm : link
throw
Link - ( New Window )
Lindor  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 2:14 pm : link
prefers being called Francisco vs. Frankie
Almora w a bomb  
JayBinQueens : 3/2/2021 2:43 pm : link
2-0
Almora with a HR  
KDavies : 3/2/2021 2:45 pm : link
nice to finally have a catcher who can throw some runners out. McCann is 3rd in that department since 2015 (of catchers with at least 200 attempts against them)
Good  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 2:48 pm : link
to see Almora homer, but this is where ST can be misleading. The kid he homered off of (LaRue) had a 6 era in AA/AAA in 2019.
.  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 2:48 pm : link
Tim Britton
@TimBritton
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1m
Brandon Nimmo mentioned taking a lot of offseason BP against lefties, which he read Todd Helton used to do: "I wish I could talk to Todd Helton. If you have that in, that would be great."
.  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 2:56 pm : link
Mathew Brownstein
@MBrownstein89
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Drew Smith with a 1-2-3 sixth.

Sat 94 with his 4-seamer and hit 96.

#Mets #LGM
RE: .  
pjcas18 : 3/2/2021 3:02 pm : link
In comment 15164991 DanMetroMan said:
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Tim Britton
@TimBritton
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1m
Brandon Nimmo mentioned taking a lot of offseason BP against lefties, which he read Todd Helton used to do: "I wish I could talk to Todd Helton. If you have that in, that would be great."


Why can't he talk to Todd Helton? Just because he doesn't know him?
RE: RE: .  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 3:06 pm : link
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Tim Britton
@TimBritton
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1m
Brandon Nimmo mentioned taking a lot of offseason BP against lefties, which he read Todd Helton used to do: "I wish I could talk to Todd Helton. If you have that in, that would be great."



Why can't he talk to Todd Helton? Just because he doesn't know him?


Based on other tweets he's basically asking for someone to introduce him or give him his contact info.
I'm  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 3:08 pm : link
sure if he really wanted to, he could get in touch with him but Cuddyer is very close with Wright and played with Helton so you'd think at bare minimum there would be a connection there.
RE: Looks  
Mad Mike : 3/2/2021 3:26 pm : link
In comment 15164686 DanMetroMan said:
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like both the Indians and Mets were aware Callaway was a trash human. How is he still employed by the Angels? lol

Nick Francona, who was in the Mets' front office at the time they hired Callaway, has a scathing post on social media about his dad Terry (Cle's manager) and other members of the Cleveland front office not saying anything to the Mets about Callaway's history back then, and then lying to him when the story first broke, insisting they never knew anything.
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The  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 3:29 pm : link
Mets also knew he was a creep.

Before and after the team dismissed the Arizona matter as “bad choice” on Callaway’s part, he aggressively pursued multiple women in sports media, as detailed in The Athletic’s earlier account.

“He was on his phone all the time,” recalled one male Mets employee. “(I was like), ‘Two hours before a game, buddy? Aren’t you having a meeting?’ You could tell it had nothing to do with the game. It’s 5:15, who are you texting?”

According to one former Mets employee, Callaway earned a nickname among several people within the organization:

“Dick Pic Mick.”
Potential  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 3:31 pm : link
plus glove in CF but quite the crowded back to his uniform lol


McWilliams  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 3:33 pm : link
touched 97

RE: The  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/2/2021 3:36 pm : link
In comment 15165050 DanMetroMan said:
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Mets also knew he was a creep.

Before and after the team dismissed the Arizona matter as “bad choice” on Callaway’s part, he aggressively pursued multiple women in sports media, as detailed in The Athletic’s earlier account.

“He was on his phone all the time,” recalled one male Mets employee. “(I was like), ‘Two hours before a game, buddy? Aren’t you having a meeting?’ You could tell it had nothing to do with the game. It’s 5:15, who are you texting?”

According to one former Mets employee, Callaway earned a nickname among several people within the organization:

“Dick Pic Mick.”


This is absolutely laughable.
Get all the  
pjcas18 : 3/2/2021 3:48 pm : link
Callaway shit out now.

Sandy was gone it sounds like before the Mets found out anything about him (according to the article), the owners are gone, very few if any current FO people had anything to do with hiring or covering for him. If they did rip the band aid off and get rid of anyone and start fresh and run the team like normal people; not hiring dirt bags and not covering things up.
RE: McWilliams  
GF1080 : 3/2/2021 3:52 pm : link
In comment 15165059 DanMetroMan said:
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touched 97



What website is this from? I like the layout.
RE: Get all the  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 4:00 pm : link
In comment 15165086 pjcas18 said:
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Callaway shit out now.

Sandy was gone it sounds like before the Mets found out anything about him (according to the article), the owners are gone, very few if any current FO people had anything to do with hiring or covering for him. If they did rip the band aid off and get rid of anyone and start fresh and run the team like normal people; not hiring dirt bags and not covering things up.


My biggest thing isn't even Mets related... how is he still employed by the Angels? If Jeremy Hefner were accused of the same it would be wall to wall coverage and he would be gone within hours.
RE: RE: McWilliams  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 4:05 pm : link
In comment 15165093 GF1080 said:
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touched 97





What website is this from? I like the layout.


Ingame feed from baseballsavant.com
Sandy is the one who hired MC  
Vanzetti : 3/2/2021 4:07 pm : link
He also hired Porter

This falls squarely on him
We  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 4:08 pm : link
will see how many RP's they carry but figure

Diaz/May/Familia/Betances/Loup/Castro are "locks" opening day

Barnes is out of options so if he continues to look decent he's likely the front-runner for that 7th spot, Lucchesi is a potential second lefty/innings, Smith, SRF, Tarpley all likely in the mix as well. McWilliams likely opens in Syracuse unless he's ridiculously good this spring.
RE: Sandy is the one who hired MC  
pjcas18 : 3/2/2021 4:15 pm : link
In comment 15165124 Vanzetti said:
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He also hired Porter

This falls squarely on him


I don't blame Sandy for Porter.

I really don't think it was outrageous they didn't have as part of their hiring process to interview all the reporters the person may have talked to two jobs ago (Porter incident was in CHI in 2016, not SD - his most recent employer). ESPN could have simply avoided the whole Mets scenario (as could have the reporter) if they came forward at the time.

Also, in articles today it said no one on the Mets was made aware of Callaways reputation until after Sandy had left the team due to his cancer treatments.

I do think the Mets will change their hiring processes, but to think they needed to do FBI style background checks or be blamed for bad hires is not an assumption I think is fair.


Gimenez  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 4:41 pm : link
just crushed a HR
RE: Sandy is the one who hired MC  
Rory : 3/2/2021 5:44 pm : link
In comment 15165124 Vanzetti said:
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He also hired Porter

This falls squarely on him


have you ever been in charge of making personnel decisions before?, its not as cut and dry as you think.
If  
DanMetroMan : 3/2/2021 5:55 pm : link
Nimmo stays healthy, I'm predicting a big year from him. 5ish fWAR, and even "Nimmo haters" say we have to keep him.
RE: If  
Rory : 3/2/2021 7:21 pm : link
In comment 15165251 DanMetroMan said:
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Nimmo stays healthy, I'm predicting a big year from him. 5ish fWAR, and even "Nimmo haters" say we have to keep him.


Love Nimmo...after MC, thor, lindor. Would love to see Nimmo extension talks start.
you could probably make a good argument extending Nimmo now is  
Eric on Li : 3/2/2021 8:24 pm : link
a better value play than Conforto. Likely 1/2 the cost (especially since he may have more motivation with a more extensive injury history).

Conforto definitely (imo) the better player but if they can only resign 1 of them and there's a big price difference, Nimmo should be the next call after Boras if they pass on extending early.
I dont think Conforto is the better player at all.  
ZGiants98 : 3/2/2021 8:33 pm : link
If contracts were handed out today, obviously Conforto would get more due to his body of work, but Nimmo can hit for just as high of an OPS (if not higher) and would likely be elite defensively in LF if that's where he eventually landed. As it is, he is very likely a 4-5 WAR player in CF where he's below average. Im not sure Conforto is that in RF.

That said, Im glad we have them both. Hope they are both Mets for a very long time.
If it were up to me  
ZGiants98 : 3/2/2021 8:38 pm : link
Luchessi would head to AAA to start. Would definitely be ideal if he's stretched out. If we are talking about a second lefty I'd rather just take Blevins or Tarpley to start out.

Also, part of me thinks Luchessi will win the #5 SP spot. Peterson can go to AAA and we can reclaim an extra year of control if he's there for a couple of weeks. But I also see the merit in rewarding him for his season last year.

Should be interesting.
RE: If  
pjcas18 : 3/2/2021 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15165251 DanMetroMan said:
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Nimmo stays healthy, I'm predicting a big year from him. 5ish fWAR, and even "Nimmo haters" say we have to keep him.


How does anyone hate Nimmo? There are some shitty fans I guess.
RE: RE: If  
Dr. D : 3/3/2021 9:15 am : link
In comment 15165416 pjcas18 said:
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Nimmo stays healthy, I'm predicting a big year from him. 5ish fWAR, and even "Nimmo haters" say we have to keep him.



How does anyone hate Nimmo? There are some shitty fans I guess.

It's hard to believe anyone "hates" Nimmo, but I admit at one time it seemed he was too focused on drawing a walk and reluctant to swing the bat; even with RISP (leaving it up to someone else to drive 'em in). I no longer think that's the case.
Nimmo is a good player but he's not on Conforto's level  
Eric on Li : 3/3/2021 9:53 am : link
if Conforto did what he did last year over a full season he's an MVP candidate. Nimmo isn't that and I don't think he'll ever be that.

And he's been a lot more injury prone (Nimmo has only played more than 70 games in a season once, Conforto played 150+ each year prior to last year's short season, and 109 apiece in the 2 years prior to that). That's why Conforto has been worth 16 wins above replacement for his career and why Nimmo has only been worth 8.6 - he's only been able to stay on the field about half the amount of time Conforto has.

Half the track record
+ 1 extra season until free agency
= a lot less leverage in a negotiation
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