NFT: Knicks vs. Spurs

Gibson is Out

Haven't seen a lick of the Spurs this season, but man...17-13. How does Pop do it? That's not a formidable roster by any means & especially in the West.

Taking them to OT last night.
Let's take the next 2 and go to the break 20-17..

Looking forward to watching Vessell I have heard his defense is for real.

Let's go Knicks

That plays harder than Frank on the defensive end. He really does give it his all. It becomes contagious. Not a player I look to move. He can play on anyone’s (in the league) second unit with that effort. (As long as IQ picks up the offense, grin,)

In comment 15164827 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Haven't seen a lick of the Spurs this season, but man...17-13. How does Pop do it? That's not a formidable roster by any means & especially in the West.

I watched Nets-Spurs last night, or most of it. Spurs took them to OT. They may not be big-name but they're good and Pop has them playing hard as you would expect. Derozan is an all-star level player. Murray is a pretty good PG. And their young C Poeltl (sp?) impressed me as well.

In comment 15164885 Carl in CT said:

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That plays harder than Frank on the defensive end. He really does give it his all. It becomes contagious. Not a player I look to move. He can play on anyone’s (in the league) second unit with that effort. (As long as IQ picks up the offense, grin,)

I agree
That's why it's so weird that Thibs doesn't play him more.
Would seem like a Thibs player.
Hopefully, this opportunity earns him time in the rotation.

In comment 15164936 larryflower37 said:

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In comment 15164885 Carl in CT said: Quote: That plays harder than Frank on the defensive end. He really does give it his all. It becomes contagious. Not a player I look to move. He can play on anyone’s (in the league) second unit with that effort. (As long as IQ picks up the offense, grin,) I agree That's why it's so weird that Thibs doesn't play him more. Would seem like a Thibs player. Hopefully, this opportunity earns him time in the rotation.

Agree 100%.

It's good to see Frank step up given the chance. Wish Knox would do the same.

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That's why it's so weird that Thibs doesn't play him more.

It's not weird at all. He's useless on offense and his defense is overrated as hell by his fan club. Good (not great) ball defender, lousy help defender.

was on Kellerman today and was great. Once the audio/vid gets posted I'll post it here. Worth a listen.

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was on Kellerman today and was great. Once the audio/vid gets posted I'll post it here. Worth a listen.

I'm surprised a local TV/radio station hasn't scooped CP up yet - he's a natural. I forgot to listen this afternoon, but I'll check out the podcast later.

LFGK!

he comes back from injury and plays a couple decent games and people think he's somehow part of the future. He isn't. He's not good. We need to stop this.

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was on Kellerman today and was great. Once the audio/vid gets posted I'll post it here. Worth a listen.

Here is the video. I'll give Max this, at least he went out of his way to promote @KnicksFanTv
multiple times. That being said, not really sure why the media insists the fans atone for Dolan. We didn't pick the owner.
Link - ( New Window )

Needs to stay the course with his Frank hate, he is all in and needs to play it out. Can’t admit when he is wrong. There are many just like him. Frank is a very strong defender, plays hard and it becomes infectious with the rest of the team. He makes a few plays every game that help his team win, take a charge, gets a couple of steals. The other night he closed out hard and caused a travel in a tight game against Indiana.

His shooting form is very good. He will become a serviceable offensive player with continued growth each year. He is 22!! It won’t be woth the Knicks but Frank will be in the NBA for a very long time.

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In comment 15164936 larryflower37 said: Quote: That's why it's so weird that Thibs doesn't play him more. It's not weird at all. He's useless on offense and his defense is overrated as hell by his fan club. Good (not great) ball defender, lousy help defender.

Wow, you would think he went to Duke with the way that you're judging him but seriously folks, how is Franks a lousy help defender? I don't see help-defense as a weakness as the times I have watched him, he has been a responsible teammate as far as fulfilling his rotation responsibilities off the ball. But perhaps I am missing something

You would think he was a combination of Tony Allen, Pippen and Draymond the way fans discuss his defense.

He is a good on ball defender I won't deny that. He also is very sound fundamentally- moves off the ball and after passing the ball, shares the rock etc. But he has very little if any offensive game.

I hope he can turn in to a serviceable player providing good defense, knocking down 3s. But fans need to be honest about the current state of his game. This is his 4th season in the league...

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In comment 15164936 larryflower37 said: Quote: That's why it's so weird that Thibs doesn't play him more. It's not weird at all. He's useless on offense and his defense is overrated as hell by his fan club. Good (not great) ball defender, lousy help defender.

think they cut bait with Knox first chance they get. 3 coaches, zero development. Kenny Payne on the staff... zero development. I could see him swapped for someone else's lottery pick "bust".

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How do you know that? Are you at practice? Again he is 21 and came out of the draft too early. Let’s relax on him being a bust.

He started strong and went into a slump and other guys started playing better so he lost time. Whose minutes is Knox taking? They are clearly giving Toppin time to develop, but he is the only guy he can take minutes from right now. Should we throw in the towel in Toppin?

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How do you know that? Are you at practice? Again he is 21 and came out of the draft too early. Let’s relax on him being a bust. He started strong and went into a slump and other guys started playing better so he lost time. Whose minutes is Knox taking? They are clearly giving Toppin time to develop, but he is the only guy he can take minutes from right now. Should we throw in the towel in Toppin?

Am I in practice? Yawn. Such a lazy question. 3 coaches have all decided he's not worthy of a major role. Yeah, if Obi Toppin is in year 3 and he's looking like Kevin Knox, I'd be completely comfortable throwing in the towel (as would the Knicks). Knox sucks, he's done nothing to suggest he's going to be a good NBA player. Enough with this "came out too early". He's in his THIRD NBA season. Players are busts, it happens.

37% from the field (that's because he came out early?) 3 rebounds, 1 assist, .4 blocks, 70% career from the line, career PER 8.5 (this season 8.3) and yeah, if he looked good in practice he would have earned SOME playing time (especially with the injuries) and he never did. He sucks.

of a decent 3 ball, is there a single skill Knox displays as having the upside of being even average? Not passing, not defense, not rebounding. As rabid as Knicks fans are about Frank... NONE of the same defense comes for Kevin Knox.

sound high on Knox...


“The Knicks **continue** to make third-year forward Kevin Knox available, leading to speculation that he too could be involved in a hypothetical [Andre] Dummond trade,” wrote Sam Amico of FortyEightMinutes. “Drummond reportedly would welcome a trade to New York.”

Guess they should hit up practice and see what he's up to.

I took a screenshot for future reference.

Is always great at breaking news. Please share some noteworthy trades he has broken. And if they trade him for drummond which would be a huge mistake whether you like knox or not. I’ve also read multiple reports this year where knicks wouldn’t trade knox, so whose right? come on man your better than that.

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I took a screenshot for future reference.

Great. Please quote me. He sucks. The absolute best case is a 3 point shooter off the bench. Can't crack the rotation minus Robinson despite WWW in the FO and Kenny Payne on the bench. His trade value is likely an expiring deal or a 2nd round pick.

A deal for the 32-year-old Rose probably wouldn’t cost too much in assets. The Knicks have three lottery picks out of the rotation who are available — Kevin Knox, Frank Ntilikina and Dennis Smith Jr. — according to sources. Knox, however, probably wouldn’t be dealt for Rose. The Knicks also have the 2021 first-round pick they got from the Mavericks in the Kristaps Porzingis trade, but probably would be hesitant to deal that one because it could turn into a lottery pick.

Looks like knox wasn’t available in rose trade

there a single person on here who shares his views on Kevin Knox? He's a bad player. He's 3 training camps into his career. He's with an excellent staff and he can't even get burn. He's shown ZERO development in any way. Better 3 point %, absolutely nothing else. I don't even see the more optimistic of Knicks fans on here even pretending to talk up Knox. He's not a good player. Busts happen, he's one.

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of a decent 3 ball, is there a single skill Knox displays as having the upside of being even average? Not passing, not defense, not rebounding. As rabid as Knicks fans are about Frank... NONE of the same defense comes for Kevin Knox.

I'll defend him. I mean literally, I can defend him on the court as long as I don't have to go through too many screens.

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And Greg, what did we tell you? - ( New Window )

sucks. That's not really a debate. he's out of the rotation for a reason.

Frank can be a valuable player but he'll never sniff starting minutes as long as he doesn't bring anything to the table offensively. He's a fine bench swiss army knife defensive stopper and I have no problem with him getting 15-20 mpg.

But Knox will be traded soon and that's fine.

Or Woj or shams are reporting it officially it’s meaningless, these guys know nothing

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A deal for the 32-year-old Rose probably wouldn’t cost too much in assets. The Knicks have three lottery picks out of the rotation who are available — Kevin Knox, Frank Ntilikina and Dennis Smith Jr. — according to sources. Knox, however, probably wouldn’t be dealt for Rose. The Knicks also have the 2021 first-round pick they got from the Mavericks in the Kristaps Porzingis trade, but probably would be hesitant to deal that one because it could turn into a lottery pick. Looks like knox wasn’t available in rose trade

And that proves they aren't shopping Knox? yikes. That's some leap. They got back... Dennis Smith Jr's contract and a 2nd round pick lol.

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sound high on Knox... “The Knicks **continue** to make third-year forward Kevin Knox available, leading to speculation that he too could be involved in a hypothetical [Andre] Dummond trade,” wrote Sam Amico of FortyEightMinutes. “Drummond reportedly would welcome a trade to New York.” Guess they should hit up practice and see what he's up to.

Knox for Mo Bamba. Who says no?

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In comment 15165202 DanMetroMan said: Quote: sound high on Knox... “The Knicks **continue** to make third-year forward Kevin Knox available, leading to speculation that he too could be involved in a hypothetical [Andre] Dummond trade,” wrote Sam Amico of FortyEightMinutes. “Drummond reportedly would welcome a trade to New York.” Guess they should hit up practice and see what he's up to. Knox for Mo Bamba. Who says no?

Good question. Looks like the Magic don't think Bamba can play the 4 as they have players like Birch/Aminu playing over him and they obviously are set at center. That's the kind of deal I expect the Knicks to make (and hope it's something of that nature) vs. a pure veteran ala another Rose deal. Bamba does have the best d rating on the Magic roster so he does have that going for him. I'd be lying if I claimed I watched much of the Magic this season.

retiring Harden's #13

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In comment 15165202 DanMetroMan said: Quote: sound high on Knox... “The Knicks **continue** to make third-year forward Kevin Knox available, leading to speculation that he too could be involved in a hypothetical [Andre] Dummond trade,” wrote Sam Amico of FortyEightMinutes. “Drummond reportedly would welcome a trade to New York.” Guess they should hit up practice and see what he's up to. Knox for Mo Bamba. Who says no?

The Knicks? I don't think they make that trade.

absolutely trade for Bamba. Noel is a free agent this offseason and probably has played his way into a bigger deal.

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In comment 15165202 DanMetroMan said: Quote: sound high on Knox... “The Knicks **continue** to make third-year forward Kevin Knox available, leading to speculation that he too could be involved in a hypothetical [Andre] Dummond trade,” wrote Sam Amico of FortyEightMinutes. “Drummond reportedly would welcome a trade to New York.” Guess they should hit up practice and see what he's up to. Knox for Mo Bamba. Who says no?

Giannis Antetokounmpo says no - ( New Window )

The NBA's board of governors is expected to approve two significant changes to the rules governing two-way contracts next week, sources told ESPN: allowing players on them to be active for more than 50 games and allowing them to be eligible for the playoffs.

I didn’t know you worked for the Knicks, can you tell us the date when knox will be traded. I will see if Fanduel will give me some odds

of use for him. That said he is going to be a throw in for a bigger deal at some point if i had to guess. Nobody is giving us anything. I dont care how old the guy is when he is in his third season. He doesnt have to be tearing the league up, but he has to have shown some improvement, knox looks the same if not worse then when he came into the league. Frank at least shows small spurts of usefulness.

playing on a back to back after an OT game. This is a game we need to win. I mean its the spurs and Pop so it wont be easy but no Aldridge, Gay, Vassel, or white and possibly Keldon Johnson. LFGK!

to release the KNOX

even if he had improved a decent amount, I don't know if he'd be playing much. RJ/Mitch are the only young guys getting real minutes. There's so many vets on this team and Thibs is gonna ride them as long as he can. Quickley's strengths as a player just so happen to be exactly what this team needs to the most - and even he can't get more than 20 mins a game. Since Elf got hurt IQ has been playing even LESS!

Knox should be in the G-league.

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retiring Harden's #13

Is that a joke? I could see that when he retires/enough time has passed to cool off how he left, but now? Odd timing.

Love to see IQ get more minutes.

GO KNICKS!!!!

earlier. I guess Thibs & Doc are super close so Rivers being benched for Rose might make things awkward for those two.

He has played sloppy at times and he gets pulled. Yes, he should get more minutes but he also needs to earn it. Thibs seems to pull him after bad plays.

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He has played sloppy at times and he gets pulled. Yes, he should get more minutes but he also needs to earn it. Thibs seems to pull him after bad plays.

He is definitely on a short leash plus he is the type that will try and shoot himself out of a slump.
Thibs has handled him well.
If he is going Thibs rides him but if he is 1-6 he is done.
Quickley is a scorer first and is okay at everything else right now.

IQ time to shine!!!

How the world has changed.

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How the world has changed.

Let's get revenge for '99! Haha.

In comment 15165307 Kev in Cali said:

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IQ time to shine!!!

All-star break can't happen fast enough.
Need to get healthy.

I must have missed it, but what happened to the ASB being 10 days? The last games are Thursday & the action resumes 7 days later.

I think Silver & the NBA have largely done a good job vis a vis everything going on, but there's no need for an ASB weekend/give these guys more time off. It's been a bear of a season in terms of games/nights.

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I must have missed it, but what happened to the ASB being 10 days? The last games are Thursday & the action resumes 7 days later. I think Silver & the NBA have largely done a good job vis a vis everything going on, but there's no need for an ASB weekend/give these guys more time off. It's been a bear of a season in terms of games/nights.

Rumor has it they were under pressure from their TV partners to have the ASG. Lebron didn't want it, so it had to be real pressure for them.

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In comment 15165307 Kev in Cali said: Quote: IQ time to shine!!! All-star break can't happen fast enough. Need to get healthy.

he isnout due to health and aafety protocols, not injury

Oh, I know ASB weekend was driven for the almighty coin no doubt with TNT. That I get. What I don't get is that I thought the break was supposed to be longer than a week.

I think it's a waste and wish they would get rid of all these all-star games.

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That's fun

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I think it's a waste and wish they would get rid of all these all-star games.

In a normal season, I have no problem with AS weekend. It's stupid, mindless entertainment. But this season...with a pandemic? It's just flat out stupid. But, as with most things in life, $ is paramount.

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In comment 15165294 robbieballs2003 said:

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He has played sloppy at times and he gets pulled. Yes, he should get more minutes but he also needs to earn it. Thibs seems to pull him after bad plays.

but rose has had more than a few sloppy plays at key moments. It's not like IQ is sitting behind an all-star.

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In comment 15165294 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: He has played sloppy at times and he gets pulled. Yes, he should get more minutes but he also needs to earn it. Thibs seems to pull him after bad plays. but rose has had more than a few sloppy plays at key moments. It's not like IQ is sitting behind an all-star.

Both fair points. The youngins definitely have a shorter leash.

Frank, RJ, Bullock, Julius, & Noel starting 5.

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Frank, RJ, Bullock, Julius, & Noel starting 5.

Wow. Where's GMEN?

How far Rivers has fallen...

persona non grata at this point.

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In comment 15165294 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: He has played sloppy at times and he gets pulled. Yes, he should get more minutes but he also needs to earn it. Thibs seems to pull him after bad plays. but rose has had more than a few sloppy plays at key moments. It's not like IQ is sitting behind an all-star.

Agreed but Rose is a vet and I'm sure Thibs doesn't have to let him know about a dumb play. I agree with you that IQ should play more. I'm just point out what I think is happening off of what I am seeing.

Leave Iq in his role because you need his scoring off the bench

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In comment 15165331 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: Frank, RJ, Bullock, Julius, & Noel starting 5. Wow. Where's GMEN? How far Rivers has fallen...

Go Frank!!!
Playing for the extension.
Good for him.

In comment 15165338 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 15165328 Enzo said: Quote: In comment 15165294 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: He has played sloppy at times and he gets pulled. Yes, he should get more minutes but he also needs to earn it. Thibs seems to pull him after bad plays. but rose has had more than a few sloppy plays at key moments. It's not like IQ is sitting behind an all-star. Agreed but Rose is a vet and I'm sure Thibs doesn't have to let him know about a dumb play. I agree with you that IQ should play more. I'm just point out what I think is happening off of what I am seeing.

It's less about Rose and more about keeping Quickley out of situations that could kill his morale and keeping his head right

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In comment 15165332 adamg said: Quote: In comment 15165331 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: Frank, RJ, Bullock, Julius, & Noel starting 5. Wow. Where's GMEN? How far Rivers has fallen... Go Frank!!! Playing for the extension. Good for him.

Definitely rooting for him. I'd love to have another building block in place.

Frank, so far, is not a building block.

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Frank, so far, is not a building block.

He has shown flashes.
It's all confidence with him.
Stop worrying about making mistakes and play loose.

be good RJ tonight because that starting unit is awful offensively. As much as i cant stand payton, Frank is actually a downgrade offensively, lol. Basically the offense is RJ/Randle and a guy who can dunk (if he can catch it) and a couple guys who might hit a 3 if they are wide open, ha.

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Haha. It's the NBA.

I would have thought Goldmember was coaching the Spurs.

Attack motherfucker!

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Has to have the worse hands in the league

Daughter in man cave. We got 'Beauty and the Beast' on one TV & Knicks-Spurs on the other. Haha.

Not a good start.

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Spurs have an...interesting group of players tonight.

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so does Knox

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I think he's putting the nail in the coffin of his career as a point.

Frank is awful.

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He gets guys easy looks and he can get to the rim

are ready to grind out an ugly victory.

He has a VERY high ceiling

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she is standing right there

His ceiling as a player rises significantly if he becomes an above average outside shooter

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Too many turnovers and fouls, too few rebounds.

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Not sure why he would start, why not rivers and bullock. Keep frank and Quickley together?

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He can be a good shooter when he catches and shoots, but he is a mess when he puts the ball on the floor. And he is starting to become a little bit of a black hole when he gets it as well.

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The refs suck. I don't get why you don't get to keep your challenge if you win it.

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I hate to be that guy but the woman officials in the nba are horrid

RJ looks good.

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he was standing next to poetle

Can’t predict baseball, Suzyn.

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crooked fucking refs

But this is a very winnable game we're just playing so sloppy.

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Freakin stay on Patty Mills.

Why? Getting killed. Everyone is off but Frank. How about let the kid play in the 3rd?

The Spurs plays an OT game last night and we're the one who couldn't look more lethargic.

This was more than Rose and Payton out. The carelessness and stupid play is frustrating.

But it is fun to watch him smack the shit out of some of these scrubs

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This was more than Rose and Payton out. The carelessness and stupid play is frustrating.

Knicks are frustrated, hard when one team is allowed tonplay physical and the other isnt..

Knicks play good defense then get called for a foul..

We need Rose back pronto.

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Come on dude.

But then Nerlens Noel came into my life

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and she calls a tech

we can't win em all.

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officials are scared of Popovich, theybhate thibs that is the difference.

is telling for why this game looks like this...

Keep dropping the ball. Not Frank’s fault. Only Knick who played well.

Has no offensive game other than a dunk.

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Keep dropping the ball. Not Frank’s fault. Only Knick who played well.

He never drives the ball, he doesnt set anyone up..

He is a terrible point guard

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Keep dropping the ball. Not Frank’s fault. Only Knick who played well.

Frank played well?

Maybe for 5 minutes in the third quarter.

with Rose starting and Frank starting i dontnknow what to tell you..

Randle and Rj had to set up everything..

Rose out does't help them...Embarrassing lose to a weak SA team. I thought we were better than this. .500 again.

when guards go for rebounds when no one is around and the big is right there and they knock itnout, just let the big get it..

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Rose out does't help them...Embarrassing lose to a weak SA team. I thought we were better than this. .500 again.

Why would rose out help?

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when guards go for rebounds when no one is around and the big is right there and they knock itnout, just let the big get it..

Knox needed the stat

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Rose out does't help them...Embarrassing lose to a weak SA team. I thought we were better than this. .500 again.

loss*

out there

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Rose out does't help them...Embarrassing lose to a weak SA team. I thought we were better than this. .500 again.

games like this happen to everyone in the nba, clippers lost by 50 to the mavs, it happens

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Just to see what we have in the pipeline....and not much at this point.

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Because of one game?

Why are we blaming Frank for Thibs putting him at PG. why are you getting so mad at a guy that we have already agreed isn’t a PG? But I’ll tell you what he can become a pretty solid 3 and d shooting guard or small forward. How about the outside shooting from Frank. You guys can’t even admit the improvement in the outside shooting, the confidence. Forget him as a PG, why can’t he be a solid SG/SF? 20-25 minutes a night including closing time against good teams in a tight game when you have Randle, RJ and the future PG on the floor.

is why people are advocating for another scorer, Randle was off tonight, when randle isnoff the offense goes down the shitter..

Need another guy who can get you 20 on a nightly basis..

But it's not looking great. Agree; if Randle doesn't play lights out, who's on deck?

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But it's not looking great. Agree; if Randle doesn't play lights out, who's on deck?

What? lol

Let's go after Lonzo.

Obi and the DAL 1 for Lonzo.

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Yeah, Warriors fans know all about that.

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Rose out does't help them...Embarrassing lose to a weak SA team. I thought we were better than this. .500 again.

This is a troll but I'm not sure why it exists.

on his facebook live last night, he thinks it is Booker, he is going to want a bigger market..

He also said people have been whispering in his ear Kawhi Leonard, but he said he doesnt believe Kawhi will leave his home state...

Nobody knows what that guy is thinking.

been rumored for a while. Stuck in Phoenix, Kentucky connections.

The catch is the Suns are great now. 2nd in the West. Can't ask out of that situation.

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been rumored for a while. Stuck in Phoenix, Kentucky connections. The catch is the Suns are great now. 2nd in the West. Can't ask out of that situation.

Exactly but what happens when cp3 leaves?

Wes is very close with Booker so you know hr is in his esr

He's now a two-time all star, they paired him up with Chris Paul and they're going to be playoff team, he's dating a kardashian and getting to live out his fame fantasies.

He's "stuck" in the crowded west though, and the Suns are notoriously cheap. I don't really buy the stuff about market though. He gets plenty of coverage. I feel like Dame Lillard is more of an afterthought than Booker.

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He's now a two-time all star, they paired him up with Chris Paul and they're going to be playoff team, he's dating a kardashian and getting to live out his fame fantasies. He's "stuck" in the crowded west though, and the Suns are notoriously cheap. I don't really buy the stuff about market though. He gets plenty of coverage. I feel like Dame Lillard is more of an afterthought than Booker.

the 2 all star appearances are fugzi to him though, both were because of injury..

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He's now a two-time all star, they paired him up with Chris Paul and they're going to be playoff team, he's dating a kardashian and getting to live out his fame fantasies. He's "stuck" in the crowded west though, and the Suns are notoriously cheap. I don't really buy the stuff about market though. He gets plenty of coverage. I feel like Dame Lillard is more of an afterthought than Booker.

Lol I mean it depends on how you feel about Phoenix. I've never been, and I've heard good things, but if I'm 25 and an NBA All Star I'd probably rather be in a bigger city.

he doesnt have much leverage to force a trade and def not the leverage to force it to a team of his choice. It has to be someone much closer to FA in my opinion. And i mean we all want it to be a stud like booker or beal, but when these reporters talk about a star they could easily be talking about oladipo or a player of his level.

This team needs a guy who can create his own offense other then randle. Last night was tough to watch. RJ can do it sometimes but not enough (yet, maybe he gets there but not yet), IQ same thing.

at least Knox got some playing time and was able to showcase his skillset for a potential trading partner or additional time in the rotation

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He definitely played. 2-5 from 3, 1 rebound, that's it. He can shoot a bit and other than that is basically completely useless as a basketball player. I'd rather have the dude from our G League team.

without any point guard and 2 of their 3 C's out as well.

I think Thibs actually tanked this game, much he's generally the anti-tanker.

Beat Detroit tomorrow and we go into the ASB above .500.

It happens. They lean so heavily on Randle that when he can't score or create, their offense can't score. Nights like that is when they need RJ to be more aggressive in shooting and creating. He only took 9 shots last night. And the Spurs seemed to hit every shot and got every call... just one of those games.

- It's obvious but they need to upgrade from Bullock. He really needs to be bench player and not a starter.

- Frank's shoot looks much improved. He clearly can't play point but he deserves a shot as a wing.

- Toppin really struggles on all facets of defense. I know its ridiculously early but can he really be a starter for a good NBA team?

Get the win on Thursday in Detroit and be above 500 going to the break. All things considered that is a fantastic 1st half.

Lastly, anyone find Alan Hahn's background with the emmys ridiculous?

had four opportunities for dunks under the rim and he botched every single one into a turnover. He might actually be getting worse.

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Lol I mean it depends on how you feel about Phoenix. I've never been, and I've heard good things, but if I'm 25 and an NBA All Star I'd probably rather be in a bigger city.

Phoenix is the 5th biggest city in the country

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Well that's news to me, although I'd venture a guess that it's much lower in rankings in terms of actual fanbase.

Phoenix is a big market-as Greg indicated-though I never would consider it a sports hotbed.

I would love for Booker to be in NY.

I thought the Suns were pretty well supported when I lived in AZ, but that was a long time ago now.

Everybody is different, but the Phoenix area is an awesome place to live and play as an NBA player. Great weather outside the summer when they don't need to be there, great nightlife, low cost of living.

The issue the Suns are going to have are CP3's future and Sarver's cheapness. That could lead to issues but I don't see any young players itching to leave that area...

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It's not the 5th biggest metro area. The San Francisco Bay area is.

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Lol I was going to say... quite the low floor for him playing well. 19 minutes 2-5 from 3, 1 rebound, 0 assists, 0 steals... he did absolutely nothing last night he hasn't done all season. Solid from 3, absolutely nothing else. Last night neither raised his trade value or gave him an argument for more PT unless it's "well he wasn't laughably bad"

is Blake Griffin will be bought out. Nets monitoring both he and Drummond.

a team even give up a 2 for Austin Rivers?

Vinny “Microwave” Johnson.

New York Knicks rookie point guard Immanuel Quickley has already made history, making 94 of his first 100 free throws in the NBA. Those 94 makes are the most any player has made in his first 100 attempts in the last 20 seasons.

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It's not the 5th biggest metro area. The San Francisco Bay area is.

That's swell. I didn't say it was the 5th biggest metro area, I said it's the 5th biggest city.

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New York Knicks rookie point guard Immanuel Quickley has already made history, making 94 of his first 100 free throws in the NBA. Those 94 makes are the most any player has made in his first 100 attempts in the last 20 seasons.

It’s kind of interesting that the Knicks broadcast team were wondering about that a couple games ago when he did it, and reached out to Alias Sports to ask if anyone else had ever done better and were told they didn’t have that info and would get back to them. Later in the game they said when Alias looked into it the stats for that only went back twenty years and in that time no other player had ever equaled that number. So I guess the Knicks broadcast team gets an “assist” for Quickley getting recognized for that.

Wild to say for a rookie with less than 30 career starts.

and am going back soon. It doesn't "feel" like a big city like NY, LA, CHI, MIA, etc. The going-out scene is pretty nice but tends to be more laid-back versus if you're looking for the big club experience. I could see a young NBA player wanting more. That said, ASU is there....

claims Thibs is unhappy with Rivers talking to the media about potentially being traded.

picks. The best asset there is a cost controlled Obi.

JJ is a player for a team gearing up for a conference finals run.

I want Lonzo but I dunno about thaat

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picks. The best asset there is a cost controlled Obi.

Lonzo is the best asset there.

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He would be if he wasnt about to be a RFA

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Do you think there's any chance the team that has him doesn't match whatever offer is made? Where else are we getting a PG who can dish and shoot 40% from 3?

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Does this get done?

Lonzo would have to scare the Pelicans into trading him, i.e. turn down any extension offers and threaten to play on the qualifying offer next season and then become unrestricted in 2022. Very few players have managed to pull that off.

I think if Lonzo does come available, multiple teams and going to want him and I'm not sure that offer is all that great. Would depend on how many picks and their respective protections.

But yeah, Obi plays the same position as our best player and we need guards to build around.

They may not be able to spend the money to keep him if he keeps shooting like this.

To be clear, i'd be in favor of a Lonzo trade.

id even add in a future 1st to get that deal done

offers for him so if he can force is way out, maybe we try and execute a sign-and-trade this summer.

when they have Zion?

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Pelicans aren't doing that deal.

I just listened to that Windhorst podcast. He's the king of this and I hate when reporters tease out a tidbit like he did - " a star player will force his way to the Knicks in the next 12 months."

Just come out and say what you are hearing or don't drop that. With that said, who do you think he is referring to?

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Seems to have better hands than Noel.

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Macri thought it was KAT. Someone else mentioned Booker. I think it's probably KAT...

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when they have Zion?

Fair point. I think the real value is in the picks. But Obi could be a trade piece.

for Mitch, Knox, Frank, Obi, both 2021 picks.

Who says no?

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for Mitch, Knox, Frank, Obi, both 2021 picks. Who says no?

I'd be fine with that.

is how they don't need mitch. If he can be so completely replaced by Noel, why would you ever pay big money?

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I thought they had rapid tests? if they had an inconclusive why not give him a few more to make sure?

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for Mitch, Knox, Frank, Obi, both 2021 picks. Who says no?

they would want more picks...which I'd probably pay. But I'd want some sorta protection in the event both our pick and the Dallas pick end up in the top 3 this year. So if that were to happen, they only get one.

but if i could get him and keep Rj and Quick id do it..

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Windy was talkong about devin booker

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Makes sense. It's a huge market (much bigger than Phoenix) and he'd be joining the Kentucky Knicks.

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Windy was talkong about devin booker

I've heard people refer to Booker wanting out as an open secret.

Jay Williams also said Doncic might force his way to the Knicks...Lol sign me up.

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Oh God, yes

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That'd be quite a twist, but feels pretty farfetched.

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Lol he even saidnit would never ever happen..

Wes is already recruiting..

I would need to be revived by medical professionals.

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I would need to be revived by medical professionals.

it will happen. When he's 37.

Haha.

I got Jazz 76ers on. Man, Donovan Mitchell...but we got Frank!

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Ive always said this about lebron

Yes, when Bronnie is in the league, LBJ will FINALLY come to MSG.

I like this Jazz team. Even though they have the best record in the league, it feels like a lot of people aren't buying them as a legit championship contender. I disagree. They got a lot of firepower & very stout defensively.

miss two threes - neither hit the rim.

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I like this Jazz team. Even though they have the best record in the league, it feels like a lot of people aren't buying them as a legit championship contender. I disagree. They got a lot of firepower & very stout defensively.

They are very good. I just have a difficult time believing they could beat a motivated Lakers team 4 times in a playoff situation. Or the Nets for that matter if they meet in the finals

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He is so good.

Rose didnt play last game against SA....and we got embarrassed. I gotta think Frank sits down and Rose gets his run against a Detroit team that has some injury/health issues.

I still want to see more IQ out there, and less Rose if we have a run at the playoffs.

You know Wes is in his ear..

id be down to see Frank take Bullock's minutes. Looks like he is just as good of a shooter and his D is just as good.

Id also be fine if Frank took Payton's minutes. Payton is better at getting to the hoop but we need shooters and Frank is at least better then payton.

I said this recently but doesnt towns and Randle seem like an awful fit. We are going to have to give up the farm for Towns and im not sure he is worth it. He is a good player, but im not sure he is great and the fit seems awful. Im sure id be in the minority but id 100% take lavine over towns even if the cost was close.

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id be down to see Frank take Bullock's minutes. Looks like he is just as good of a shooter and his D is just as good. Id also be fine if Frank took Payton's minutes. Payton is better at getting to the hoop but we need shooters and Frank is at least better then payton. I said this recently but doesnt towns and Randle seem like an awful fit. We are going to have to give up the farm for Towns and im not sure he is worth it. He is a good player, but im not sure he is great and the fit seems awful. Im sure id be in the minority but id 100% take lavine over towns even if the cost was close.

I think Towns and Randle tandem can work offensively, think about how wide open the paint would be for Barrett driving to the hoop..defensively would be the question..

Frank will never replace Payton, Thibs likes his point guards to drive to the hoop, he likes guys who can get into the lane..

Frank over Bullock i am starting to lean that way if Frank keeps shooting the way he is

at the 5 and 4 would be a lot of fun. Two 5 APG guys who shoot 40% from 3 yet somehow are also awesome rebounders. Would definitely need a Noel type shotblocker behind them getting probably 25 MPG but that has to be the most dynamic frontcourt in basketball.

He's really soft, doesn't care about defense and hasn't lifted his teams on the pro level.

With that said, he's one of the most talented offensive bigs to come around in a while.

I do worry about the fit with Randle and building your team around 2 bigs. But if you have a chance to get a center of that caliber, you have to do it. Just look at what Embiid is doing.

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He's really soft, doesn't care about defense and hasn't lifted his teams on the pro level. With that said, he's one of the most talented offensive bigs to come around in a while. I do worry about the fit with Randle and building your team around 2 bigs. But if you have a chance to get a center of that caliber, you have to do it. Just look at what Embiid is doing.

This is how i feel about Towns as well and its crazy he was a really good defender in college his 1 year.

Mitch, Obi, Frank, Knox, 4 1sts and 2 swaps

KAT.

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Wouldn't even consider it at that price. Don't mind the players, but 4 1sts? No way.

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the 1sts really dont bother me, you would still have a 21 1st and 23 1st..

Plus you would have 2 stars with room to add a 3rd

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I think that’s a fair trade. But the question is do you want to use all your ammo on KAT or save it for another star. There’s also a ton of questions about Towns even as talented as he is.

Good thing is Leon Rose and Thibs know Towns well and also know the market well and who will be possibly be on the move.

Mortgage the future for KAT.

Stick with Robinson and build through the draft, keep assets unless they can be used for obtaining a great pg or shooting guard.

this man a fucking Max Contract. I legit have more pride in this Julius Randle turnaround than maybe anything in Sports other than some Badgers stuff and the Eli Super Bowls.
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Thanks for that. That was a good read.

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That was great, thanks for posting. I am one of the few fans that actually liked him last season so I’m really loving what Randle is doing. My daughter and I watch every game together and he has become our favorite Knick.

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this man a fucking Max Contract. I legit have more pride in this Julius Randle turnaround than maybe anything in Sports other than some Badgers stuff and the Eli Super Bowls. Link - ( New Window )

That was awesome, this is the randle i was hoping for when i wanted the Knicks to sign him, he is doing what stat did his first half year, made the knicks fun again and attractive to players

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Wow! Not even sure what to say. Between Randle and Thibs, no wonder the Knicks have turned it around.

If KAT will buy into that mindset, go for it. If he won't, he shouldn't be on the team.

last night, and Ellington with 25.

We'll see them tonight.

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this man a fucking Max Contract. I legit have more pride in this Julius Randle turnaround than maybe anything in Sports other than some Badgers stuff and the Eli Super Bowls. Link - ( New Window )

Awesome stuff. Thanks for sharing.

but why don't they let RJ play the point?

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but why don't they let RJ play the point?

my amateur take would be that while he has above average awareness and passing ability, his handle sucks.

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but why don't they let RJ play the point?

Awful handle and overly reliant on his left. Both things really hold him back.

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but why don't they let RJ play the point?

Even if you want to assume that he could handle it offensively, he likely gets beat defending opposing quicker point guards.

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but why don't they let RJ play the point?

he can handle for stretches, but not all the time, id rather randle play the point..

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Great article. Loved to hear this mindset from Randle. Really happy for the guy and to have him on the Knicks.

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Sometimes you're like a beat writer - have every possible opinion over time and then you can always point back to "back when I thought this would happen."

You also wanted Randle traded last summer for a bag of chips.

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Yeah i absolutely did, what does that have to do with me wanting the Knicks to sign him?

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IMO, when you walk back your previous opinion, you don't get to puff out your chest and strut around about being right originally. Great, you wanted him signed. You also wanted him traded for a bag of chips. Now you can claim that you always wanted him when he's good, and you can also claim that you wanted to trade him for nothing when he's not. It's just lame. Have some conviction.

i simply said this is the randle i thought we would get, i never said give me credit for wanting him..

I actually said previously i dont get credit because i wanted him traded befoee the season so i lose that credit..

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i simply said this is the randle i thought we would get, i never said give me credit for wanting him.. I actually said previously i dont get credit because i wanted him traded befoee the season so i lose that credit..

Fair enough, I apologize. I just feel like in any series of Knicks threads (and I read more on them than I post, because I appreciate the insight that most of you guys provide and I can't match that), you'll go back and forth on pretty much every topic if given enough time. I'm thinking back to the Durant rumors - was there an opinion that you didn't have along the way?

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Yeah i didnt think he was coming..

I was convinced KD was coming. Yeah, I was a tad off on that.

after the KP trade and during all star weekend, only 2 times i let myself think he was coming

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I was convinced KD was coming. Yeah, I was a tad off on that.

I remember you telling me to shutup because i kept saying he wasnt haha

Haha. I didn't want to put negative vibes into the atmosphere. My apologies.

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Haha. I didn't want to put negative vibes into the atmosphere. My apologies.

its all good i dont get offenxed easily

to whatever team had the 8th and 10th picks that year - I think it was Atlanta - and take Tyler Herro and Brandon Clarke because I thought they'd be better complements to KD and Kyrie. I definitely bought in on those rumors.

Yankee hats? What a time to be alive.

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Lebron i was convinced was coming, i went to the cavs vs knicks game cc and all thebyankees were at rhe game after they won the world series..

Me and my friends saw cc at a mickey ds down the block from the garden, and he was telling everuone how lebron was coming to new york

right and if you search the threads you'll see that I called Brooklyn as a spot for KD months in advance. You'll have to forgive me if I don't draw attention to (many) predictions I've gotten wrong.

because it was the first time the Knicks ever had cap space and we weren't THAT far removed from the being a good team - guys like Lebron/Wade/Melo at least grew up watching Knicks playoff games on TV. No one really knew how players would react to the Knicks being an option. I blame myself for getting reeled in again a couple of years ago. I'll wait til they build a good team before getting remotely excited over FAs.

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Bulls fans thought he was going there because of some nonsense about him sitting in MJ's favorite chair at a restaurant. Some speculated the Nets because of Jay-Z and Prokorov. In the days leading up to it, there were random tweets from people saying the Knicks (Jared Dudley, Spike and a couple of others I forgot). In the end, Alan Hahn called it the day before. Maybe one day he'll tell the story about how he got that scoop, if he already hasn't.

I was begging for the Knicks to take donovan mitchell in the frank draft...lol

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You sure? I seem to recall you pushing for Caleb Swanigan prior to that draft. I'll check the archives.

2015 - I didn’t want porzingis, but I did want to trade back for more picks and get devin Booker, don’t think I can get too much credit for that because too unpredictable where he was going. I think my pick was Mudiay or Winslow if they stayed out, which both ended up stinking

2017 - I wanted donovan mitchell badly as you all you remember

2018 - I really wanted Collin Sexton, but he went before knicks so nothing to do there. I wanted knox over miles bridges, I was adamant about this also. I was very negative on miles bridges, I didn’t like his game at all. I was wrong on that. I was 50/50 on Porter jr risk, I think I was for the risk, but completely understood passing on it at the time and given this teams history

2019 - really wanted Ja Morant like everyone else. I agreed with Barrett as the pick, although I will admit at the time I said there will be many teams that will regret passing on garland. I may have even referenced him as steph curry lite haha. He hasn’t shown much yet and may be the worst defensive guard in the nba. I really didn’t want culver or Hunter, Hunter looks to be legit.

2020 - I did not want to trade up for Lonzo, wanted to stay Pat and take haliburton. Didn’t really love anyone in the draft. Haliburton looks to be very good. Haliburton and quickly would have been awesome but not sure they would have taken quickly had they taken Haliburton.

I wanted Monk in '17. And it looks like he's FINALLY becoming a player.

Thing KAT or Luca and will crash and burn when it doesn’t happen. Let’s just go above .500 at the break please. Baby steps.

I don't see any circumstances in which Dallas trades Luka, unless Cuban loses his damn mind. That'd be like Auerbach trading Bird circa 1982.

Frank questionable with contused thigh..

Payton is questionable

Rose is questionable but expected to play

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Frank questionable with contused thigh.. Payton is questionable Rose is questionable but expected to play

ASB is coming at the right time eh?

It’s the Frank Vs Smith Jr matchup we have all been waiting for

Sam Amico says Knicks are frontrunners for Drummond

But I do feel vindicated that Quickley has been a player for them. I loved the pick when they made it. Didn't think he'd play this well this soon, but I thought it was a terrific value pick.

i mean at this point isnt the hope that mitch is back like a week or so after the break? So maybe he misses another few games?

That said we know this team needs scoring and Drummond is much much more skilled offensively then either of our centers (not that it takes much). If we can get him for spare parts then sure, but again if we were going to do it i would have rathered them do it 4-5 games ago.

for Drummond is fucking dumb. That's a thing dumb teams do.

generally an optimist and I have a lot of trust in this staff/front office, but what is the end game with Drummond? Are we going to re-sign him after the year and completely stifle Mitch?

Either way bird rights aren't valuable because he's not sniffing anything close to the 30 mil he's making now.

You could convince me he'll help this year as a rental but I'd much rather trade spare parts for Oladipo.

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for Drummond is fucking dumb. That's a thing dumb teams do.

Would it be a trade? I figured the Cavs would just buy him out.

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In comment 15166990 Jon in NYC said: Quote: for Drummond is fucking dumb. That's a thing dumb teams do. Would it be a trade? I figured the Cavs would just buy him out.

That may happen, but I doubt drummond comes here if it does. He's much more likely to go to a bonafide contender. The Nets for example make far more sense.

but the knicks can absorb a lot of his deal which would save CLE money.

Sure if i can have my choice of Oladipo or Drummond for spare parts then id take oladipo, but i dont think HOU is trading him for spare parts.

Im not advocating for drummond, but a couple month rental if it cost like bullock and rivers and a second id be fine with it. I like what Noel has given us, but lets not pretend we arent a much better team with Drummond and mitch splitting center then mitch and noel.

still doesnt make sense, he had inconclusive, then has continued to test negative, was allowed on the team flight, but is still out?

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still doesnt make sense, he had inconclusive, then has continued to test negative, was allowed on the team flight, but is still out?

Who's starting at point?

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In comment 15167012 nygiants16 said: Quote: still doesnt make sense, he had inconclusive, then has continued to test negative, was allowed on the team flight, but is still out? Who's starting at point?

At this point Pinson hahaha