I know maybe that's not even the best way to look at the situation and each individual is responsible for their own actions but WTF? This little girl's life is ruined. Why are his sons so f'd up?
RE: This really makes me look at Andy Reid differently...
I know maybe that's not even the best way to look at the situation and each individual is responsible for their own actions but WTF? This little girl's life is ruined. Why are his sons so f'd up?
That's a deep question.
Some might say the time commitments of being an NFL head coach lifer like Reid can lead to making unfortunate sacrifices in the home life.
If I had to guess, I'd say the whole reason he was on the Chiefs staff was so Andy could keep an eye on his son.
from what I read - when she was pulled off life support I thought that was a better sign than reality dictated .... I guess? Very sad story ...
I did read in an online article today that her (family's) lawyer is going to petition the court for the highest penalties allowed by law.
I am not in the Justice industry ... I just thought that if you commit a crime - there was a penalty. The article made it seem like the family's lawyer could/would have influence on the court even before a trial?
Maybe this is a setup for a civil suit?
Look, even if he was NOT a son of an Eagle's ex-coach - driving drunk in this day and age ... there is no excuse. I hope he goes to jail for a long time. ESEPCIALLY since this is not his first offense.
But, I just did not realize that a lawyer hired by the victim's family could influence the court before a verdict? Thought that argument had to wait till the "Victim's Impact" statement after the trial?
that poor girls life is ruined. I hope to hell that she recovers but alas there are always unnecessary innocent victims that experience such a devastating loss.
May God bless her and her family.
Britt Reid is a POS who should never be employed again in the NFL.
employed by the NFL? Isn't he going to jail?
Maybe I'm naive, but I don't see him having the celebrity cache to get off because of his fame nor the money, seems like prison is his next stop to me.
tragedy. On the other side of this, I have to think that this incident impacted the Chiefs. This was a whole lot more than a distraction for their head coach, other staff members and the players in the days leading to the Super Bowl.
While it's impossible to lay it all on this incident, their no-show at the super bowl could have a lot to do with Britt Reid. It may have been as impactful as the Plax gun incident was for the Giants.
the only input that a crime victim has on the potential sentence faced by a criminal defendant is (1) thru the prosecutor's office - advising of their position on a potential plea or what sentence should be sought after trial, advice that the prosecutor is not bound by, as he/she represents the State, not the victim; or (2) addressing the sentencing judge at sentencing, after there has been a conviction. Victims (or their counsel) don't get to address the court on punishment until there has been a conviction. The article here may have been referring to a potential civil suit.
Sending Britt Reid to prison should just be the start.
The Chiefs and Coach Reid have the deep pockets for the coming civil liability.
If the team and NFL really want to make a statement, AR deserves to be fired. Yes, he wins football games. Big f*cking deal. There are more important things in the world. He has enabled this horror show with his sons for over a decade, and made it the League's problem by having this scumbag on the payroll.
I hope that little girl gets the best care possible and can make a remarkable recovery or has the best care going forward. That family should get a enormous amount of money from the Reid's and Chiefs to support that she gets the best.
AR has been about second chances for a long time with players. He tried his best with his son. It has had huge consequences unfortunately to a young girl with her whole life in front of her.
I think this leads to the end of AR era quicker than most people think.
let's be honest, the % of great or heavily invested dads currently employed as HCs in the NFL has to be pretty low. The mother is likely doing the lion's share of heavy lifting. Some of these HCs never go home.
RE: Sending Britt Reid to prison should just be the start.
The Chiefs and Coach Reid have the deep pockets for the coming civil liability.
If the team and NFL really want to make a statement, AR deserves to be fired. Yes, he wins football games. Big f*cking deal. There are more important things in the world. He has enabled this horror show with his sons for over a decade, and made it the League's problem by having this scumbag on the payroll.
I know the accident was near the Chiefs training facility. Did any more information come out on that aspect? ie. was he drinking at the Chiefs practice facility?
BigBlueNH: It appears that the family's attorney was weighing in...
... on criminal charges. Those comments may have no formal bearing, but press coverage can put additional pressure on the investigation and eventual prosecution.
How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
I don't know the laws around this but he better go to jail
Don't know MO law, but likely not. If she had died, he would have been charged with vehicular manslaughter. There is no attempted vehicular manslaughter. He will be charged with crimes such as vehicular assault/reckless driving/DUI, etc. Along those lines.
djm: The issue isn't whether Andy Reid was a good or bad father.
The issue is that he knowingly employed a longtime substance abuser and confessed drug dealer who would never have gotten an interview if he weren't Reid's son. He took responsibility for a known risk that blew up in one of the worst ways imaginable. The consequences for him should be worse than for the victim and her family.
This isn't a case of "A father did the best he could." It's a case of "An NFL head coach f*cked up massively, and should be accountable."
How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
Pretty simple how it works as a HC. You take responsibility for everything on your team. That is leadership 101.
How would you feel about things if your 5 year old never had the chance to reach her potential and do great things in life?
Producer: I had sympathy for the Reids when the other son died.
It's not like they were innocent then either. They were running a drug business out of their house. At some point, people no longer deserve the benefit of the doubt.
To me, the question of Reid's continued employment is separate and doesn't hinge whether Andy Reid is a bad person. He's a terrible EMPLOYEE, who exposed the organization to massive liability and failed to manage the risk. That's enough reason to fire him, even if the Chiefs don't feel any responsibility for the little girl who suffered permanent brain damage.
RE: This really makes me look at Andy Reid differently...
I know maybe that's not even the best way to look at the situation and each individual is responsible for their own actions but WTF? This little girl's life is ruined. Why are his sons so f'd up?
They grew up privileged and with no accountability?
RE: Sending Britt Reid to prison should just be the start.
The Chiefs and Coach Reid have the deep pockets for the coming civil liability.
If the team and NFL really want to make a statement, AR deserves to be fired. Yes, he wins football games. Big f*cking deal. There are more important things in the world. He has enabled this horror show with his sons for over a decade, and made it the League's problem by having this scumbag on the payroll.
Neither the Chiefs nor Andy have a thing to do with Britt driving drunk. He is his own person. He was not driving on behalf of the Chiefs or his father.
How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
Once Reid makes the leap from Dad to employer, he bears some responsibility. Especially since he's employing a person that would have no chance if his last name wasn't Reid.
Blame Andy Reid for this unless he knew Britt was about to get in his car that day while impaired . As a father you want the best for your kids and he probably thought that giving Britt a job with the team would keep him busy and out of trouble (and a chance to bond with his son given he probably works 100 hour weeks).
How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
Once Reid makes the leap from Dad to employer, he bears some responsibility. Especially since he's employing a person that would have no chance if his last name wasn't Reid.
Spot on regarding his fathers accountability as well as the chiefs organization
How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
Once Reid makes the leap from Dad to employer, he bears some responsibility. Especially since he's employing a person that would have no chance if his last name wasn't Reid.
Again a vague notion masquerading as a point. We don't know what anybody did, what anybody said, what anybody saw. We don't know these people. We weren't there. We don't know what was malicious, what was accidental, what was irresponsible. We don't know shit. But we have a mob here saying Andy Reid is a guilty piece of shit who should be fired and his son committed murder.
Andy Reid is not the employer. The employer is the Kansas City Chiefs. Andy Reid and his son are both employees of the organization. Reid bears no responsibility as an employer in this matter. He may as an employee or supervisor but that’s another issue.
It doesn't matter whether AR is a "piece of sh!t", or whether he is morally responsible for his son's conduct. What matters is that he hired a guy with a red-flag criminal record, a history of uncontrolled substance abuse, and no particular job qualifications, who then proceeded to embarrass the organization, and probably expose it to substantial civil liability. He vouched for the guy. He took responsibility. He owns the results.
If you co-sign your kid's lease, and he blows his rent money on the ponies, the bank doesn't care whether you took him to the racetrack. You signed, you pay.
One counterargument on this thread that I agree with is that we don't know a lot of the key facts yet. Maybe the details will exonerate both Reids, or at least it will turn out that Britt Reid did his drinking after leaving the facility. Obviously, we're reacting to the story as reported. If we're wrong, fine. This isn't a court of law. We don't have to be fair, or presume innocence, or wait for all the evidence.
would be negligent homicide or manslaughter, if the victim died. Can't have attempted murder without an intent to kill, obviously not the case here. If she lives, the strongest charge would likely be vehicular assault. Obviously, the condition of the girl would have a big impact on a potential sentence (if convicted) or plea offer.
A driver is charged with a class D felony in Missouri if they were driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol and got in an accident which resulted in serious physical injury to another person. This offense could mean up to 7 years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines.
A driver is charged with a class C felony in Missouri if they were driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol and got in an accident which resulted in (1) death of any person or (2) injury of a law enforcement or emergency personnel. This offense could mean 3-10 years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines.
Thx! I rarely get to use my knowledge from those days: 1985-90. Right out of law school worked in the Criminal Bureau of the NH AG's Office, and wound up doing mostly homicides and appeals before the State S.Ct.
Said it before, first offense DUI should be 3 to 5 year license suspension. Second DUI should be 1 to 3 years in prison and indefinite loss of license. Just no excuse for these terrible tragedies.
How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
Once Reid makes the leap from Dad to employer, he bears some responsibility. Especially since he's employing a person that would have no chance if his last name wasn't Reid.
Again a vague notion masquerading as a point. We don't know what anybody did, what anybody said, what anybody saw. We don't know these people. We weren't there. We don't know what was malicious, what was accidental, what was irresponsible. We don't know shit. But we have a mob here saying Andy Reid is a guilty piece of shit who should be fired and his son committed murder.
It's ridiculous.
"A vague notion"?? What the fuck? We know prior facts here. Facts that should have precluded Britt Reid from being hired by his Dad. Facts of he and his brother selling drugs and having weapons in the family home. Facts of him menacing another person with a weapon.
The "mob" here is pointing out that if Reid hires a kid who was a piece of shit at age 22, that he bears responsibility if the kid is still doing stupid shit years later.
You are babbling on about something masquerading as a point. What the fuck point are you making? That Andy reid shouldn't have known what his son previously did and how it may impact his employment? Because that is some serious fucking masquerading. It's actually called delusion
A driver is charged with a class D felony in Missouri if they were driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol and got in an accident which resulted in serious physical injury to another person. This offense could mean up to 7 years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines.
A driver is charged with a class C felony in Missouri if they were driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol and got in an accident which resulted in (1) death of any person or (2) injury of a law enforcement or emergency personnel. This offense could mean 3-10 years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines.
Is this right? Death is only worth 3 more years (max) than serious injury?
Andy Reid is not the employer. The employer is the Kansas City Chiefs. Andy Reid and his son are both employees of the organization. Reid bears no responsibility as an employer in this matter. He may as an employee or supervisor but that’s another issue.
While technically true, most teams in the NFL allow coaches to hire their staffs. So while Reid doesn't cut the check, he likely made the hire without having much pushback.
contrarian, moronic take whoch is all he produces.
There hasnt been much worse than read his drivel.
Yea.. presumption of innocence and waiting for evidence, bedrock principles of our criminal justice system are moronic and contrarian views in your book. Especially for someone who, as far as we know, had absolutely nothing to do with this incident. Sorry I don't jump on Andy Reid like a mouth-breathing clod and shout he should be fired. Actually I'm not sorry.
I've been pretty nice to you even when you post silly, inane and banal bullshit. I suggest you do the same. Learn a little humility and collegiality. It will do you some good, on here, and in life.
Producer: Let the courts worry about presumption of innocence.
He’ll get due process. So will his father, and the Chiefs. This is a football discussion board. The terms of use don’t require us to be fair.
Anyway, the Reids have been telling us who they are for fifteen years. Maybe we should believe them. As far as I can tell, Britt Reid’s main redeeming feature is that he is less cartoonishly evil than his dead brother, who took great pride in spreading addiction in “the Hood”. That’s from his allocution, by the way, not some idle rant. The sad truth is that the world would be a better place today if Britt Reid had OD’d with Garrett. That’s a terrible thing to say, but he would be at peace and a little girl would have her future back.
Andy Reid is not the employer. The employer is the Kansas City Chiefs. Andy Reid and his son are both employees of the organization. Reid bears no responsibility as an employer in this matter. He may as an employee or supervisor but that’s another issue.
It's incredibly naive to think a head coach of Andy Reid's repute would not simply have to speak a word to get someone hired to his staff.
or boss responsible for hiring, is responsible for the driving habits of anyone they hire, or continue to employ, with a DWI?
That whole angle is a big load of shit.
A case can be made for job positions which involve driving company vehicles.
How come I never see all this vitriol aimed at Mama Reid? If Andy is a giant douche for spawning/raising these 'kids', then so, too, is she. Perhaps even more since Andy was presumeably working around the clock in a long hour, demanding profession.
or boss responsible for hiring, is responsible for the driving habits of anyone they hire, or continue to employ, with a DWI?
That whole angle is a big load of shit.
A case can be made for job positions which involve driving company vehicles.
How come I never see all this vitriol aimed at Mama Reid? If Andy is a giant douche for spawning/raising these 'kids', then so, too, is she. Perhaps even more since Andy was presumeably working around the clock in a long hour, demanding profession.
i don’t know what their family dynamics were like, but it’s a common theme unfortunately that kids lacking parental attention are prone to get into trouble. Especially those at the extreme ends of the net worth spectrum.
That's a deep question.
Some might say the time commitments of being an NFL head coach lifer like Reid can lead to making unfortunate sacrifices in the home life.
If I had to guess, I'd say the whole reason he was on the Chiefs staff was so Andy could keep an eye on his son.
I also do not like lawyers talking about her condition to the press.
from what I read - when she was pulled off life support I thought that was a better sign than reality dictated .... I guess? Very sad story ...
I did read in an online article today that her (family's) lawyer is going to petition the court for the highest penalties allowed by law.
I am not in the Justice industry ... I just thought that if you commit a crime - there was a penalty. The article made it seem like the family's lawyer could/would have influence on the court even before a trial?
Maybe this is a setup for a civil suit?
Look, even if he was NOT a son of an Eagle's ex-coach - driving drunk in this day and age ... there is no excuse. I hope he goes to jail for a long time. ESEPCIALLY since this is not his first offense.
But, I just did not realize that a lawyer hired by the victim's family could influence the court before a verdict? Thought that argument had to wait till the "Victim's Impact" statement after the trial?
May God bless her and her family.
employed by the NFL? Isn't he going to jail?
Maybe I'm naive, but I don't see him having the celebrity cache to get off because of his fame nor the money, seems like prison is his next stop to me.
And when Garrett Reid was found dead, he was on site at the Eagles training facility.
I think that is a safe bet and he may do prison time.
While it's impossible to lay it all on this incident, their no-show at the super bowl could have a lot to do with Britt Reid. It may have been as impactful as the Plax gun incident was for the Giants.
I also do not like lawyers talking about her condition to the press.
Why? He’s not doing it without the consent of the family.
If the team and NFL really want to make a statement, AR deserves to be fired. Yes, he wins football games. Big f*cking deal. There are more important things in the world. He has enabled this horror show with his sons for over a decade, and made it the League's problem by having this scumbag on the payroll.
AR has been about second chances for a long time with players. He tried his best with his son. It has had huge consequences unfortunately to a young girl with her whole life in front of her.
I think this leads to the end of AR era quicker than most people think.
If the team and NFL really want to make a statement, AR deserves to be fired. Yes, he wins football games. Big f*cking deal. There are more important things in the world. He has enabled this horror show with his sons for over a decade, and made it the League's problem by having this scumbag on the payroll.
I know the accident was near the Chiefs training facility. Did any more information come out on that aspect? ie. was he drinking at the Chiefs practice facility?
How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
Don't know MO law, but likely not. If she had died, he would have been charged with vehicular manslaughter. There is no attempted vehicular manslaughter. He will be charged with crimes such as vehicular assault/reckless driving/DUI, etc. Along those lines.
This isn't a case of "A father did the best he could." It's a case of "An NFL head coach f*cked up massively, and should be accountable."
not without intent, and you'd have a tough time proving that.
Criminally Negligent Homicide I would guess, but I'm not a lawyer
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I don't know the laws around this but he better go to jail
not without intent, and you'd have a tough time proving that.
Criminally Negligent Homicide I would guess, but I'm not a lawyer
wait...I'm sorry...obviously he can't be charged with that since the little girl is alive....
How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
Pretty simple how it works as a HC. You take responsibility for everything on your team. That is leadership 101.
How would you feel about things if your 5 year old never had the chance to reach her potential and do great things in life?
To me, the question of Reid's continued employment is separate and doesn't hinge whether Andy Reid is a bad person. He's a terrible EMPLOYEE, who exposed the organization to massive liability and failed to manage the risk. That's enough reason to fire him, even if the Chiefs don't feel any responsibility for the little girl who suffered permanent brain damage.
They grew up privileged and with no accountability?
If the team and NFL really want to make a statement, AR deserves to be fired. Yes, he wins football games. Big f*cking deal. There are more important things in the world. He has enabled this horror show with his sons for over a decade, and made it the League's problem by having this scumbag on the payroll.
Neither the Chiefs nor Andy have a thing to do with Britt driving drunk. He is his own person. He was not driving on behalf of the Chiefs or his father.
Get a grip.
How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
Once Reid makes the leap from Dad to employer, he bears some responsibility. Especially since he's employing a person that would have no chance if his last name wasn't Reid.
This.
Every state is different. Hopefully the child does not die and makes a miracle recovery, and Reid goes to prison.
In my state, attempted murder isnt really a charge and he would be charged with assault among other charges.
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How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
Once Reid makes the leap from Dad to employer, he bears some responsibility. Especially since he's employing a person that would have no chance if his last name wasn't Reid.
Spot on regarding his fathers accountability as well as the chiefs organization
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directed at people you don't know mystifies me.
How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
Once Reid makes the leap from Dad to employer, he bears some responsibility. Especially since he's employing a person that would have no chance if his last name wasn't Reid.
Again a vague notion masquerading as a point. We don't know what anybody did, what anybody said, what anybody saw. We don't know these people. We weren't there. We don't know what was malicious, what was accidental, what was irresponsible. We don't know shit. But we have a mob here saying Andy Reid is a guilty piece of shit who should be fired and his son committed murder.
It's ridiculous.
So he should give him a high paying job that his is wholly unqualified for, where he drinks on the premises?
That's called enabling.
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Know what kind of father Andy Reid is. His son’s are grown men and are responsible for themselves.
So he should give him a high paying job that his is wholly unqualified for, where he drinks on the premises?
That's called enabling.
You know he was drinking on the premises? You know Andy Reid was aware of it? You know he was legally drunk? How do you know these things?
If you co-sign your kid's lease, and he blows his rent money on the ponies, the bank doesn't care whether you took him to the racetrack. You signed, you pay.
One counterargument on this thread that I agree with is that we don't know a lot of the key facts yet. Maybe the details will exonerate both Reids, or at least it will turn out that Britt Reid did his drinking after leaving the facility. Obviously, we're reacting to the story as reported. If we're wrong, fine. This isn't a court of law. We don't have to be fair, or presume innocence, or wait for all the evidence.
A driver is charged with a class C felony in Missouri if they were driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol and got in an accident which resulted in (1) death of any person or (2) injury of a law enforcement or emergency personnel. This offense could mean 3-10 years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines.
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directed at people you don't know mystifies me.
How do you know Andy Reid is a terrible person? The answer is you don't. Maybe his kids suffer from mental illness that can't be controlled. Maybe they are just a family who have endured a second tragedy. The answer is you don't know. So why speculate?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, family suicides, drug overdoses, DUIs, life-changing accidents, etc.
How about we have sympathy for all involved until we learn more. Andy Reid didn't hurt this little girl. That's something I know for sure. I think you guys should chill with the angry words, conjecture and judgement, and learn more, before calling for firings, etc..
Once Reid makes the leap from Dad to employer, he bears some responsibility. Especially since he's employing a person that would have no chance if his last name wasn't Reid.
Again a vague notion masquerading as a point. We don't know what anybody did, what anybody said, what anybody saw. We don't know these people. We weren't there. We don't know what was malicious, what was accidental, what was irresponsible. We don't know shit. But we have a mob here saying Andy Reid is a guilty piece of shit who should be fired and his son committed murder.
It's ridiculous.
"A vague notion"?? What the fuck? We know prior facts here. Facts that should have precluded Britt Reid from being hired by his Dad. Facts of he and his brother selling drugs and having weapons in the family home. Facts of him menacing another person with a weapon.
The "mob" here is pointing out that if Reid hires a kid who was a piece of shit at age 22, that he bears responsibility if the kid is still doing stupid shit years later.
You are babbling on about something masquerading as a point. What the fuck point are you making? That Andy reid shouldn't have known what his son previously did and how it may impact his employment? Because that is some serious fucking masquerading. It's actually called delusion
There hasnt been much worse than read his drivel.
A driver is charged with a class C felony in Missouri if they were driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol and got in an accident which resulted in (1) death of any person or (2) injury of a law enforcement or emergency personnel. This offense could mean 3-10 years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines.
While technically true, most teams in the NFL allow coaches to hire their staffs. So while Reid doesn't cut the check, he likely made the hire without having much pushback.
There hasnt been much worse than read his drivel.
Yea.. presumption of innocence and waiting for evidence, bedrock principles of our criminal justice system are moronic and contrarian views in your book. Especially for someone who, as far as we know, had absolutely nothing to do with this incident. Sorry I don't jump on Andy Reid like a mouth-breathing clod and shout he should be fired. Actually I'm not sorry.
I've been pretty nice to you even when you post silly, inane and banal bullshit. I suggest you do the same. Learn a little humility and collegiality. It will do you some good, on here, and in life.
Anyway, the Reids have been telling us who they are for fifteen years. Maybe we should believe them. As far as I can tell, Britt Reid’s main redeeming feature is that he is less cartoonishly evil than his dead brother, who took great pride in spreading addiction in “the Hood”. That’s from his allocution, by the way, not some idle rant. The sad truth is that the world would be a better place today if Britt Reid had OD’d with Garrett. That’s a terrible thing to say, but he would be at peace and a little girl would have her future back.
It's incredibly naive to think a head coach of Andy Reid's repute would not simply have to speak a word to get someone hired to his staff.
That whole angle is a big load of shit.
A case can be made for job positions which involve driving company vehicles.
How come I never see all this vitriol aimed at Mama Reid? If Andy is a giant douche for spawning/raising these 'kids', then so, too, is she. Perhaps even more since Andy was presumeably working around the clock in a long hour, demanding profession.
That whole angle is a big load of shit.
A case can be made for job positions which involve driving company vehicles.
How come I never see all this vitriol aimed at Mama Reid? If Andy is a giant douche for spawning/raising these 'kids', then so, too, is she. Perhaps even more since Andy was presumeably working around the clock in a long hour, demanding profession.