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UGADawgs7 : 3/3/2021 10:45 pm
I’m guessing the answer is “dead money.”I checked the website over the cap and it doesn’t show teams dead money. I always thought that if there’s a trade made, or a cut that the “dead cap” only affects the salary cap that season and maybe the following season. How is it possible that the Giants have no cap space?
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christian : 3/3/2021 10:53 pm : link
If the Giants don’t designate Tate a June 1st cut, they will have about 7.8M in “dead money” so far on the 2021 books.
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UGADawgs7 : 3/3/2021 10:58 pm : link
In comment 15166389 christian said:
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If the Giants don’t designate Tate a June 1st cut, they will have about 7.8M in “dead money” so far on the 2021 books.

Yes, but I mean in general there’s no long term HUGE $ deals on the books so I just can’t understand how they don’t have a lot of cap space.
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christian : 3/3/2021 11:09 pm : link
For starters, if the cap is 185M this year, that’s about 25M less than projected.

Then they have:

- 2 players on 5th year options — Peppers and Engram
- 4th highest cap hit for a guard in Zeitler
- 6th highest cap hit for a tackle in Solder
- 4th highest cap for a RB in Barkley
- 3rd highest cap hit for CB in Bradberry

You look 1-2 years out, and the Giants are in good cap shape, because they don’t have very many long term commitments.
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eric2425ny : 3/4/2021 12:08 am : link
In comment 15166398 christian said:
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For starters, if the cap is 185M this year, that’s about 25M less than projected.

Then they have:

- 2 players on 5th year options — Peppers and Engram
- 4th highest cap hit for a guard in Zeitler
- 6th highest cap hit for a tackle in Solder
- 4th highest cap for a RB in Barkley
- 3rd highest cap hit for CB in Bradberry

You look 1-2 years out, and the Giants are in good cap shape, because they don’t have very many long term commitments.


Good post Christian. Bottom line is the Giants have a lot of flexibility due to their lack of long term commitments so don’t get too caught up in the estimated cap room for this season. There are more cuts, restructures, signing players to deals where we creatively lower their 2021 cap number and up their bonus spread over multiple years, etc. that will mitigate this years perceived poor cap situation.
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.McL. : 3/4/2021 3:30 am : link
In comment 15166415 eric2425ny said:
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For starters, if the cap is 185M this year, that’s about 25M less than projected.

Then they have:

- 2 players on 5th year options — Peppers and Engram
- 4th highest cap hit for a guard in Zeitler
- 6th highest cap hit for a tackle in Solder
- 4th highest cap for a RB in Barkley
- 3rd highest cap hit for CB in Bradberry

You look 1-2 years out, and the Giants are in good cap shape, because they don’t have very many long term commitments.



Good post Christian. Bottom line is the Giants have a lot of flexibility due to their lack of long term commitments so don’t get too caught up in the estimated cap room for this season. There are more cuts, restructures, signing players to deals where we creatively lower their 2021 cap number and up their bonus spread over multiple years, etc. that will mitigate this years perceived poor cap situation.

I never like borrowing from Peter to pay Paul...
but for a one year decline in the cap Paul should pay Peter  
Chip : 3/4/2021 6:19 am : link
But also the NFL did not get the money from Disney and only received a 30 percent increase and had to allow ABC back into the Super Bowl mix if reports are true. A 30 percent increase on the deal from 10 years ago but a 30 percent increase from last season. NFL ratings were down 7-10 percent from last year. The NFL strength may have dimmed a little.
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Mdgiantsfan : 3/4/2021 6:58 am : link
In comment 15166398 christian said:
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You look 1-2 years out, and the Giants are in good cap shape, because they don’t have very many long term commitments.


It has felt like we’ve been saying this for a few years now, and yet every offseason we’ve been middle of pack when it comes to cap space. In that we are not over the cap but have nowhere near the amount of space to major players in free agency. Unless last season’s free agent splurge was the jackpot offseason from a cap space perspective.

Not being over the cap and able to make some signings is definitely not a bad place to be, but to counter the inability to major players in free agency with hitting on draft picks. And I guess this is where we are. We need DJ and SB healthy first and foremost, but they have to be difference makers this year. And hope we get another a playmaker or two on offense.
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TommyWiseau : 3/4/2021 7:35 am : link
In comment 15166439 .McL. said:
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For starters, if the cap is 185M this year, that’s about 25M less than projected.

Then they have:

- 2 players on 5th year options — Peppers and Engram
- 4th highest cap hit for a guard in Zeitler
- 6th highest cap hit for a tackle in Solder
- 4th highest cap for a RB in Barkley
- 3rd highest cap hit for CB in Bradberry

You look 1-2 years out, and the Giants are in good cap shape, because they don’t have very many long term commitments.



Good post Christian. Bottom line is the Giants have a lot of flexibility due to their lack of long term commitments so don’t get too caught up in the estimated cap room for this season. There are more cuts, restructures, signing players to deals where we creatively lower their 2021 cap number and up their bonus spread over multiple years, etc. that will mitigate this years perceived poor cap situation.


I never like borrowing from Peter to pay Paul...


Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul is what EVERY single NFL team does. The cap is not looked at on a one year basis. According to a friend of mine who works in the Bears front office, most teams look at the cap as a "3 year stretch" or "block".
Not sure what you are reading  
Beer Man : 3/4/2021 8:23 am : link
OTC is reporting that the Giants have $7.4M in cap space, and $7.8M in dead cap. SportsTrac is a little different, they are reporting the Giants have $11.9M in cap space, and $7.9M in dead cap
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