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NFT: Knicks vs. Pistons 7:30 Tipoff

TyreeHelmet : 3/4/2021 5:52 pm
Knicks are 7 point favorites at MSG.

- Derick Rose OUT. Really not sure why.

- Payton and Frank questionable. Hope to see Frank vs DSJ.

Would be really nice to get this W to be above 500 heading to the break.
I was waiting for this.  
robbieballs2003 : 3/4/2021 6:00 pm : link
There was no way I was starting another thread after that horrendous performance last game. Hopefully they finish off this half with a win.
Who's going to start?  
adamg : 3/4/2021 6:00 pm : link
Frank?
Everyone is perplexed by the Rose thing  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 6:04 pm : link
he continues to test negative yet is still out, unless he got another incoclusive..

At this point Pinson will probably start
No Grant and Jackson for Detroit  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 6:08 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 6:12 pm : link
Detroit sucks. Roll them!
RE: No Grant and Jackson for Detroit  
adamg : 3/4/2021 6:18 pm : link
In comment 15167032 nygiants16 said:
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We should crush them.
Payton and Frank both playing  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 6:42 pm : link
guessing Payton stars..
RE: Payton and Frank both playing  
adamg : 3/4/2021 7:02 pm : link
In comment 15167046 nygiants16 said:
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guessing Payton stars..


I'm both relieved and disappointed...
RE: Payton and Frank both playing  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 7:04 pm : link
In comment 15167046 nygiants16 said:
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guessing Payton stars..


Ugh. When is IQ going to crack the starting lineup? 2031?
Starters were starting to get into a flow  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 7:11 pm : link
with Rose as the starter, sucks because now Payton probably sticks as starter
RE: RE: Payton and Frank both playing  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 7:11 pm : link
In comment 15167058 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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guessing Payton stars..



Ugh. When is IQ going to crack the starting lineup? 2031?


I dont think they view him as a full time point right now
nygiants16  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 7:14 pm : link
Agreed. I'll trust Thibs' judgement. He's doing a helluva job. I just wished IQ got more minutes, but that time will come for sure.
RE: nygiants16  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 7:20 pm : link
In comment 15167068 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Agreed. I'll trust Thibs' judgement. He's doing a helluva job. I just wished IQ got more minutes, but that time will come for sure.


Yiu can see in games when Quickley is playing well thibs sticks with him..

If he is not shooting well he pulls him pretty quick
RE: RE: nygiants16  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15167071 nygiants16 said:
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Agreed. I'll trust Thibs' judgement. He's doing a helluva job. I just wished IQ got more minutes, but that time will come for sure.



Yiu can see in games when Quickley is playing well thibs sticks with him..

If he is not shooting well he pulls him pretty quick


Yes, but I'd love for Thibs to stick with him even in games where his shot is off. Experience. It'll benefit him long term. Again, I defer to Thibs...just a pet peeve of mine.
Let's fucking go baby!  
adamg : 3/4/2021 7:28 pm : link
Let's get the W!
RE: RE: RE: nygiants16  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 7:33 pm : link
In comment 15167077 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Agreed. I'll trust Thibs' judgement. He's doing a helluva job. I just wished IQ got more minutes, but that time will come for sure.



Yiu can see in games when Quickley is playing well thibs sticks with him..

If he is not shooting well he pulls him pretty quick



Yes, but I'd love for Thibs to stick with him even in games where his shot is off. Experience. It'll benefit him long term. Again, I defer to Thibs...just a pet peeve of mine.


i agree, im really hoping after the deadline Payton is gone and Rose and Quick are the point guards..
Noel caught a pass!  
bceagle05 : 3/4/2021 7:42 pm : link
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RE: RE: nygiants16  
Kev in Cali : 3/4/2021 7:42 pm : link
In comment 15167071 nygiants16 said:
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Agreed. I'll trust Thibs' judgement. He's doing a helluva job. I just wished IQ got more minutes, but that time will come for sure.


Fair enough, but why wouldn't he get a shot as a starter against this Detroit team that's missing 1/2 their players? THibs just doesn't like him...?


Yiu can see in games when Quickley is playing well thibs sticks with him..

If he is not shooting well he pulls him pretty quick
Go Knicks!  
Kev in Cali : 3/4/2021 7:43 pm : link
Jacked up my last post.
RE: nygiant16  
Kev in Cali : 3/4/2021 7:45 pm : link
Fair enough, but why wouldn't he get a shot as a starter against this Detroit team that's missing 1/2 their players? THibs just doesn't like him...?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 7:45 pm : link
When Mason Plumlee is a starter...that's not a good team.
RJ having fun tonight  
adamg : 3/4/2021 7:49 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 7:49 pm : link
Nice start.
RE: RE: nygiant16  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15167096 Kev in Cali said:
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Fair enough, but why wouldn't he get a shot as a starter against this Detroit team that's missing 1/2 their players? THibs just doesn't like him...?


Huh? Coaches dont change the starting lineup based on who they are playing, Thibs loves him and thats pretty obvious
RE: RJ having fun tonight  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15167106 adamg said:
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That little hesitation move was a thing of beauty
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 7:53 pm : link
I'm all over the map on RJ...I have no good feel. Sometimes he drives me mad, other times he looks like real good. What sucks, for him, is that he got drafted behind two potential studs in Zion & Ja so there's going to be that comparison, fair or not.
You can tell Payton is gutting it out  
bceagle05 : 3/4/2021 7:56 pm : link
because he knows the backcourt is thin tonight. Admirable.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 7:57 pm : link
Randle is cooking.
Stewart went right through the back of noel  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 7:59 pm : link
of course this blind ref doesnt call it
RE: ...  
adamg : 3/4/2021 8:00 pm : link
In comment 15167113 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I'm all over the map on RJ...I have no good feel. Sometimes he drives me mad, other times he looks like real good. What sucks, for him, is that he got drafted behind two potential studs in Zion & Ja so there's going to be that comparison, fair or not.


His 3 ball is a lot better than either of those guys.
adamg.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 8:04 pm : link
Perhaps, but he's not all around better than either one. And I don't mean that as a knock. Both were drafted above him so that should be expected. I haven't seen Ja a lot this season, but have caught a couple of Pels games and Zion...man...I had major doubts of him as a pro, but he's the real deal.
Frank makes a 3?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 8:04 pm : link
Haha.

Good first.
Lol worst officiating crew  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 8:05 pm : link
in the nba
RE: Lol worst officiating crew  
adamg : 3/4/2021 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15167132 nygiants16 said:
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in the nba


Burks was pretty obviously fouled there.
RE: Frank makes a 3?  
robbieballs2003 : 3/4/2021 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15167131 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Haha.

Good first.


He has made a bunch. Last game he was basically on fire.
Frankie Smokes!  
adamg : 3/4/2021 8:08 pm : link
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FRANK!  
bceagle05 : 3/4/2021 8:08 pm : link
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Holy shit  
adamg : 3/4/2021 8:09 pm : link
Is that Steph Curry or Frank Ntilikina?
Frank  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 8:09 pm : link
!
Frank can shoot?  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 8:10 pm : link
🤔
RE: RE: Frank makes a 3?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 8:10 pm : link
In comment 15167135 robbieballs2003 said:
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Haha.

Good first.



He has made a bunch. Last game he was basically on fire.


True. I still do a double take though.
Where is Greg?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 8:10 pm : link
Frank lighting it up.
Detroit challenging?  
BigBlueShock : 3/4/2021 8:11 pm : link
Why? The shot went in. The most they save is a one point free throw? Alrighty then
You can only hope to contain him!  
adamg : 3/4/2021 8:11 pm : link
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How is that not a foul?  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 8:12 pm : link
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Yeah he obviously hit his hand.  
bceagle05 : 3/4/2021 8:12 pm : link
Probably just looked at the landing.
so bo fouls tonight on the pistons?  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 8:17 pm : link
got it
Are they just not calling fouls?  
adamg : 3/4/2021 8:17 pm : link
wtf
Per usual...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 8:18 pm : link
NBA officiating leaves a lot to be desired.
Announcers  
TyreeHelmet : 3/4/2021 8:19 pm : link
Why are the announcers still not in the arena? Is it a NBA mandate? I get not traveling but why not at home games? They are missing are a ton of things. Not just MSG- all around the league.
RE: Announcers  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 8:19 pm : link
In comment 15167156 TyreeHelmet said:
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Why are the announcers still not in the arena? Is it a NBA mandate? I get not traveling but why not at home games? They are missing are a ton of things. Not just MSG- all around the league.


they are in the arena
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 8:28 pm : link
Randle is having himself a game, par for the course this season.
Bully ball.  
bceagle05 : 3/4/2021 8:29 pm : link
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RJ!  
adamg : 3/4/2021 8:29 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 8:33 pm : link
Great first half. Jumped all over this piss poor team.
RJ just keeps on getting better  
robbieballs2003 : 3/4/2021 8:34 pm : link
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Randle has 18 and he was fouled at least three times  
adamg : 3/4/2021 8:39 pm : link
Could easily have 21
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 8:40 pm : link
Flipped on Cs Raps. Celts looking much better of late, Kemba especially.
Payton hit a three!  
adamg : 3/4/2021 8:48 pm : link
Holy shit.
Good dishing from RJ tonight  
adamg : 3/4/2021 8:50 pm : link
Need some better shooters
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 9:00 pm : link
This is the sort of ass kicking a good team gives to a bad team. Love it.
Props to Payton too  
adamg : 3/4/2021 9:08 pm : link
he's having a good game
good timeout by Thibs-  
Del Shofner : 3/4/2021 9:18 pm : link
second unit gone cold.
god damn bench  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 9:18 pm : link
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Not enough facilitating from the bench  
adamg : 3/4/2021 9:19 pm : link
everyone is looking to get the open three
and this is why Quick doesnt play more  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 9:22 pm : link
Leaves a wide open 3 and then turns it over
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/4/2021 9:28 pm : link
Getting too close.
I'm in favor of switching Bullock and Frankie  
adamg : 3/4/2021 9:32 pm : link
Bullock is 2-9 from 3.
tough schedule after the ASB  
Del Shofner : 3/4/2021 9:37 pm : link
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not very pretty -  
Del Shofner : 3/4/2021 9:45 pm : link
Thibs shaking his head.

But ... a win. I think a break will help right now. Need Rose and Mitch back, and Taj for that matter.
27/16/7  
adamg : 3/4/2021 9:46 pm : link
Boom
RJ 21/4/5  
adamg : 3/4/2021 9:49 pm : link
EP 20/6/4

Nice games all around.
Anyone catch the answer to the trivia question?  
steve in ky : 3/4/2021 9:49 pm : link
I missed it. I remember Kenny “Sky” Walker but couldn’t think of the other one.

Thanks
Nate Robinson!  
adamg : 3/4/2021 9:50 pm : link
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Greg  
Anakim : 3/4/2021 9:54 pm : link
Which family do you hate more: the Fullers or the Plumlees?
When Knicks get production from the point  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 9:55 pm : link
and Rj and Randle are cooking they are tough to beat..

8-3 in their last 11
Missed them tonight  
mfsd : 3/4/2021 10:02 pm : link
but sounds like they took care of business.

You can't stop Frank, you can only hope to contain him!
RE: Nate Robinson!  
Del Shofner : 3/4/2021 10:03 pm : link
In comment 15167233 adamg said:
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Nate won it three times, and not all that long ago. I got him, the one I couldn't remember was Sky Walker. (Who wasn't that great a player, sort of Kevin Knox-like, but he did win one slam dunk contest.)
RE: Greg  
Del Shofner : 3/4/2021 10:04 pm : link
In comment 15167238 Anakim said:
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Which family do you hate more: the Fullers or the Plumlees?


Hey, not just Greg, I hate the Plumlees too. Just something about them.
Rj starting  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 10:05 pm : link
to have more good games then bad ones, becoming more consistent
RE: RE: Greg  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 10:07 pm : link
In comment 15167251 Del Shofner said:
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Which family do you hate more: the Fullers or the Plumlees?



Hey, not just Greg, I hate the Plumlees too. Just something about them.


I think the Plumlee that played for the Knicks is in the military now
RE: Rj starting  
Anakim : 3/4/2021 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15167254 nygiants16 said:
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to have more good games then bad ones, becoming more consistent


Say what you will about RJ (and you have, NYG16), but no one can say he's not a hard-worker. Compare his 3P and FT shooting from last year to this year. He's been leaps and bounds better.
RE: Rj starting  
Del Shofner : 3/4/2021 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15167254 nygiants16 said:
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to have more good games then bad ones, becoming more consistent


yeah, I thought he played well tonight.
What a great first half of a season.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/4/2021 10:12 pm : link
There's so much to like about what they've done. The only thing you wish you could have gotten was Obi Toppin looking great from the get go. I think he's figuring it out though.

Whatever luck the Knicks have fallen into has blessed them with a tremendously important piece of building a real team: an all-star already under contract, a two-way player who makes players around him better and does a lot of the dirty work.

I see no reason why Julius Randle can't be a #2 or a number #3 on a conference finals roster.
not that the designations matter all that much but  
Del Shofner : 3/4/2021 10:13 pm : link
is RJ the 2 and Bullock the 3? Or vice versa?

RJ is usually listed at the 2 but what I see is he's playing the 3, and Bullock the 2. Or maybe in Thibs' system those two positions are interchangeable.
RE: Nate Robinson!  
steve in ky : 3/4/2021 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15167233 adamg said:
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Thanks
RE: RE: Rj starting  
nygiants16 : 3/4/2021 10:15 pm : link
In comment 15167258 Anakim said:
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to have more good games then bad ones, becoming more consistent



Say what you will about RJ (and you have, NYG16), but no one can say he's not a hard-worker. Compare his 3P and FT shooting from last year to this year. He's been leaps and bounds better.


Oh absolutely his 3 point shooting has been great and he is not forcing the 3 point shot..
Well, at least they’re giving us a season.  
bceagle05 : 3/4/2021 10:40 pm : link
Hope they add a decent piece with that available cap space because the schedule is pretty rough the rest of the way.

Gonna miss this team over the next week!
What about DLo?  
adamg : 3/4/2021 10:59 pm : link
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RE: What about DLo?  
adamg : 3/4/2021 11:05 pm : link
In comment 15167280 adamg said:
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would Minny trade him? Would he be worth a look?
RE: RE: Rj starting  
TommyWiseau : 3/5/2021 7:23 am : link
In comment 15167258 Anakim said:
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to have more good games then bad ones, becoming more consistent



Say what you will about RJ (and you have, NYG16), but no one can say he's not a hard-worker. Compare his 3P and FT shooting from last year to this year. He's been leaps and bounds better.


he still needs to work on his FT shooting. His February numbers were pretty bad although his 3P% shot up
RE: RE: What about DLo?  
TommyWiseau : 3/5/2021 7:27 am : link
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would Minny trade him? Would he be worth a look?


He just had something done on his knee, not sure he would be the right guy to bring in unless his medicals check out
id prolly pass on Russell  
Italianju : 3/5/2021 8:05 am : link
has been pretty banged up, locked into huge money 2 more seasons, and id be a bit worried about adding another guy who is def bests with the ball in his hands. That said MINN gave up a first that is going to be a great pick mosts likely for GSW, whether its this year (top 3 protected) or next (unprotected). So MINN is going to want to "win" a russell trade pretty bad which means they would ask for a lot.
RJ  
Mike from SI : 3/5/2021 8:59 am : link
looking good! Patience, friends.
RJ can become  
TommyWiseau : 3/5/2021 10:47 am : link
as good, if not better then DeRozan who I wanted over Jordan Hill in that abomination of a draft
RJ is growing on me. He's a smart player and a hard worker. I think  
Ira : 3/5/2021 11:35 am : link
that the best with him is yet to come.
The RJ fan roller coaster is really.  
larryflower37 : 3/5/2021 12:14 pm : link
Damn everyone will back on "RJ will never an good player" the first 8 point game he has.

He has just played 90 games and is 20 there are going to be a lot of up and downs.
He is going to be an all-star some day and I will live with the bad games and growing pains.
RE: The RJ fan roller coaster is really.  
adamg : 3/5/2021 12:42 pm : link
In comment 15167578 larryflower37 said:
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Damn everyone will back on "RJ will never an good player" the first 8 point game he has.

He has just played 90 games and is 20 there are going to be a lot of up and downs.
He is going to be an all-star some day and I will live with the bad games and growing pains.


You and me are on the same page Larry.
Give the kids time.
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