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NFT: Knicks: Any chance at all they can bring LaVine aboard?

Beezer : 3/5/2021 3:06 pm
A series of questions for you fellow Knicks sufferers-turned-semi-optimists.

* What would you give up for Zach LaVine? What's realistic? Give me your player/picks combo that you think could (a) work, and (b) wouldn't be going in reverse.

* While the Knicks are currently the #5 seed, would LaVine's arrival (a) work with the chemistry that currently seems very good? (b) maybe more important, work with Randall and how he's evolved his game?

* In your scenario for bringing him in, it's still a young team overall. Assuming you're sending a handful of players packing, are there any vets you might try to bring in economically?
Here  
Semipro Lineman : 3/5/2021 3:09 pm : link
The real question to ask is why would chicago trade him  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/5/2021 3:11 pm : link
for anything less than an enormous haul. He's under contract thru next season.

Next year all bets are off because the Bulls are cheap.
And have a nice shoulder massage while you're waiting  
Semipro Lineman : 3/5/2021 3:11 pm : link
Anything I'd be willing to trade  
Existenz : 3/5/2021 3:22 pm : link
would not be close to what Chicago would want for Lavine in a trade. Not worth it IMO
RE: The real question to ask is why would chicago trade him  
KDavies : 3/5/2021 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15167750 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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for anything less than an enormous haul. He's under contract thru next season.

Next year all bets are off because the Bulls are cheap.


This. Bulls should be building around LaVine. Trading him would be absurdly stupid. Their vets such as Young, Porter, or Temple may be available, as could Carter and/or Markkanen.
I guess this particular topic does not  
chopperhatch : 3/5/2021 3:34 pm : link
Classify as "Knicks chat."
Separately from LaVine specifically:  
81_Great_Dane : 3/5/2021 3:46 pm : link
The Knicks are one game over .500. They are building a nice foundation and the team seems pretty functional for once, the guys seem to like each other and play hard for each other, but I wouldn't sweat the chemistry. They may have to take a step back to take a step forward.
RE: I guess this particular topic does not  
Beezer : 3/5/2021 3:52 pm : link
In comment 15167771 chopperhatch said:
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Classify as "Knicks chat."


Sorry ... at work and just saw the game thread from last night.
its one of those deals  
ryanmkeane : 3/5/2021 3:55 pm : link
where Chicago probably would want more than just Barrett and a pick, but we aren't willing to move Barrett for LaVine
If Lavine wants to leave chicago  
nygiants16 : 3/5/2021 3:56 pm : link
he will probably be traded in the offseason or next deadline
ive said previously  
ryanmkeane : 3/5/2021 3:57 pm : link
unless the Knicks are getting a Leonard type, I'm not giving up anything. They finally have assets, a young team, a glimmer of hope to be an Eastern Conference finals type team within 2 years. Don't do anything, keep drafting well, the free agents will come if they keep improving.

Do not trade RJ, Randle, or Quickley.  
Doubledeuce22 : 3/5/2021 4:06 pm : link
If they can pull off a trade centered around Mitchell Robinson and picks get it done big not, hold out for free agents. The team has a very nice core.
RE: ive said previously  
mfsd : 3/5/2021 4:20 pm : link
In comment 15167789 ryanmkeane said:
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unless the Knicks are getting a Leonard type, I'm not giving up anything. They finally have assets, a young team, a glimmer of hope to be an Eastern Conference finals type team within 2 years. Don't do anything, keep drafting well, the free agents will come if they keep improving.


Someone posted this on a recent game thread, don't recall who so can't cite the source, but looking at the Utah Jazz this season and in recent years, would love to keep our picks and see what Walt Perrin and our front office can do with them. Rather than empty the tank for one guy, unless we have 100% confidence it's an elite player who wants to be a Knick long term
Would  
DanMetroMan : 3/5/2021 4:25 pm : link
be great for Obi to play enough that he becomes a tradable asset. Don't see any way he and Randle are ever viable together on the court at the same time.
RE: Would  
adamg : 3/5/2021 4:29 pm : link
In comment 15167808 DanMetroMan said:
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be great for Obi to play enough that he becomes a tradable asset. Don't see any way he and Randle are ever viable together on the court at the same time.


He's only broke double digit points twice. He'll need to change gears quite a bit to show off.
RE: RE: ive said previously  
Del Shofner : 3/5/2021 5:36 pm : link
In comment 15167804 mfsd said:
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... would love to keep our picks and see what Walt Perrin and our front office can do with them. Rather than empty the tank for one guy, unless we have 100% confidence it's an elite player who wants to be a Knick long term


I agree with this - don't empty the tank for one guy. Right now there is no "elite player who wants to be a Knick long term," so why waste brain cells thinking about it. I expect a trade before the deadline but a relatively minor one.
RE: ive said previously  
djm : 3/5/2021 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15167789 ryanmkeane said:
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unless the Knicks are getting a Leonard type, I'm not giving up anything. They finally have assets, a young team, a glimmer of hope to be an Eastern Conference finals type team within 2 years. Don't do anything, keep drafting well, the free agents will come if they keep improving.


I’m still holding on to the slight hope that Leonard does something crazy again like leave the clips for msg. Exercise that player option there Kawhi...
Another postseason disappearing act from Paul George would help.  
bceagle05 : 3/5/2021 9:41 pm : link
Hey, he can reunite with Kyle Lowry, too.
I'd  
Jon in NYC : 3/5/2021 9:51 pm : link
trade a lot for LaVine. I'd really prefer to keep RJ but would probably include him if need be. He's closer to Beal than not.

RE: Another postseason disappearing act from Paul George would help.  
djm : 3/6/2021 10:45 am : link
In comment 15168020 bceagle05 said:
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Hey, he can reunite with Kyle Lowry, too.


Makes a lot of sense!
RE: RE: Would  
larryflower37 : 3/6/2021 8:51 pm : link
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be great for Obi to play enough that he becomes a tradable asset. Don't see any way he and Randle are ever viable together on the court at the same time.



He's only broke double digit points twice. He'll need to change gears quite a bit to show off.


Obi is going to turn out to be a wasted pick.
Randle is just hitting his prime and unless he wants to hit Free agency I can see how Toppin gets more then 10-12 minutes a game from here out.
He will be part of a package for an all-star in the next couple years so don't get too attached.

BTW Lavine is not going anywhere and even if he is it would take way more than the Knicks should be willing to give up.
RJ will be an all-star be 26, build around RJ, Randle, and Quickley.
Add pieces with the draft picks we have and I think we can get a FA to join in the next couple of years.

Future is bright if the front office has patience
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adamg : 3/6/2021 11:23 pm : link
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be great for Obi to play enough that he becomes a tradable asset. Don't see any way he and Randle are ever viable together on the court at the same time.



He's only broke double digit points twice. He'll need to change gears quite a bit to show off.



Obi is going to turn out to be a wasted pick.
Randle is just hitting his prime and unless he wants to hit Free agency I can see how Toppin gets more then 10-12 minutes a game from here out.
He will be part of a package for an all-star in the next couple years so don't get too attached.

BTW Lavine is not going anywhere and even if he is it would take way more than the Knicks should be willing to give up.
RJ will be an all-star be 26, build around RJ, Randle, and Quickley.
Add pieces with the draft picks we have and I think we can get a FA to join in the next couple of years.

Future is bright if the front office has patience


Do you think they could put together a package for Lonzo keeping that core in tact? Seems like a distributing PG who can shoot is the biggest need on this team. Is the draft the only way to find that in the near future?
Lonzo has been playing lights out lately  
nygiants16 : 3/7/2021 8:58 am : link
their team still sucks but he has been playing really well and has a good esp has clyde would say with Zion..Pelicans have to make a decision if they are going to resign him or not, if they arent they should trade him now while he is playing well..

The players from the Harden trade are not allowed to be traded..
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larryflower37 : 3/7/2021 12:09 pm : link
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be great for Obi to play enough that he becomes a tradable asset. Don't see any way he and Randle are ever viable together on the court at the same time.



He's only broke double digit points twice. He'll need to change gears quite a bit to show off.



Obi is going to turn out to be a wasted pick.
Randle is just hitting his prime and unless he wants to hit Free agency I can see how Toppin gets more then 10-12 minutes a game from here out.
He will be part of a package for an all-star in the next couple years so don't get too attached.

BTW Lavine is not going anywhere and even if he is it would take way more than the Knicks should be willing to give up.
RJ will be an all-star be 26, build around RJ, Randle, and Quickley.
Add pieces with the draft picks we have and I think we can get a FA to join in the next couple of years.

Future is bright if the front office has patience



Do you think they could put together a package for Lonzo keeping that core in tact? Seems like a distributing PG who can shoot is the biggest need on this team. Is the draft the only way to find that in the near future?

I think you will get Lonzo on the cheap.
Playoff teams are not going to look at him as a player to put you over the top, he has no playoff experience and is bench depth.

Probably not a big market for him on his own unless packaged in a bigger deal.
I could see a 2nd and Knox or another player with potential and under contract for more than this year.
Also might be able to get JJ and Lonzo.
For Rivers, Knox, and a second or 2.

If I am the Knicks I am talking to NO.
Reddick would be a good fit for a Playoff run
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