weapons in Shepard and Slayton who will become a lot more effective when we bring in 2 additional players (hopefully a #1 legit threat and a draft pick, or 2 draft picks)
The WR unit can become a strength pretty quickly if we hit on the right guys
Dream scenario for me is Golladay in FA and Smith/Chase/Waddle at #11. Our receiving corps would be set for years. Even if Jones doesn’t pan out the next guy would have one hell of a group of receivers to throw to.
would absolutely be shocked if Chase slips. There would be something off the field with him if that were the case.
At the beginning of this process I figured Smith > Waddle but I’m starting to rethink that. Golladay + Waddle + an upgrade at one of the guard spots would be fantastic.
like Josh Reynolds, Bourne, & Higgins. You’ll get a good value with these 3.
I’d like to see the Giants sign Godwin or Samuel with Reynolds,Bourne, Higgins, or maybe Permian who’s only 27-28.
Watkins is probably leaving the Chiefs. He turns 28 in a few months, still plenty left. Still explosive. Could be a really good value with his recent injuries and the WR market. If he’s healthy he can help any team.
I see what you’re saying, but I just don’t agree - we need legit impactful guys. Watkins is basically a JAG receiver at this point. Sure - he can help. But he won’t move the needle for this team. We need really good offensive players.
If he’s healthy, Watkins can make an impact. He’s still explosive out of cuts and a very tough cover. If he stays healthy, I think he may be one of the best values in this FA class.
to big money but we will get a UFA WR as well as a top two pick at WR.
I see us going, as good a guess as any really,
1. WR (Perhaps Waddle)
2. OG (Zeitler gone)
3. TE (need to upgrade the position)
RB
LB
CB
I think we have six picks.
Could be a bargain. We need explosive speed and he has it. He won’t be expensive. I’ll take him as a #3.
Again, I think we need really good NFL receivers and good football players. Conley and Watkins ain’t it. Just my opinion.
I agree, I like Conley but I don’t see him being the answer for us. As for Watkins, he’s been boom/bust his whole career. Even with Mahomes we was never a star receiver.
with Smith. Elite quickness and hands and a home run hitter, but can also go over the middle with toughness.
bw and ryan, if Smith ends up being as good as Bruce, Holt, or Tim Brown we will end up being very happy taking him at 11. I see him as a combination of Bruce and Holt.
“NFL teams are starting to learn the lesson that Day 2 is where the goldmine of receivers has been found,” Reid said. “This is another great receiver class. It’s just a matter of exactly where they want to pick one.”
And get a relatively cheap short term rental while the pick learns the ropes.
not saying that’s what he’s gonna become, I was just trying to think of players that were his size and possess his type of skill set. But yeah - if he ends up like them - we can all celebrate that pick for years to come.
As far as NFL players now that remind me of him...I’m not sure. He does remind me a bit of a better version of Calvin Ridley.
with Smith. Elite quickness and hands and a home run hitter, but can also go over the middle with toughness.
Tim Brown was a bigger target and not nearly as quick as DSmith. I don't see that.
As an aside, I think Tim Brown is one of the most underrated players in NFL history. Go look at his numbers. And then think about the QBs he played with to compile those numbers. He didn't play with any HoFamers. Not even close...
with Smith. Elite quickness and hands and a home run hitter, but can also go over the middle with toughness.
Tim Brown was a bigger target and not nearly as quick as DSmith. I don't see that.
As an aside, I think Tim Brown is one of the most underrated players in NFL history. Go look at his numbers. And then think about the QBs he played with to compile those numbers. He didn't play with any HoFamers. Not even close...
Tim Brown is one of my favorite players of all time. He was a tremendous receiver his entire career.
The WR unit can become a strength pretty quickly if we hit on the right guys
Dream scenario for me is Golladay in FA and Smith/Chase/Waddle at #11. Our receiving corps would be set for years. Even if Jones doesn’t pan out the next guy would have one hell of a group of receivers to throw to.
Get a WR in RD 2.
Use Barkley more in the passing game.
At the beginning of this process I figured Smith > Waddle but I’m starting to rethink that. Golladay + Waddle + an upgrade at one of the guard spots would be fantastic.
I’d like to see the Giants sign Godwin or Samuel with Reynolds,Bourne, Higgins, or maybe Permian who’s only 27-28.
Watkins is probably leaving the Chiefs. He turns 28 in a few months, still plenty left. Still explosive. Could be a really good value with his recent injuries and the WR market. If he’s healthy he can help any team.
You and me both.
(Yes, I’ve seen him play but wanted to see a projection of what he could become in the NFL.) (Jerry Rice?)
(Yes, I’ve seen him play but wanted to see a projection of what he could become in the NFL.) (Jerry Rice?)
Marvin Harrison. I thought this watching him vs. ND & I've seen a ton of other people make this comp too.
I doubt the Giants spend money on a WR after they re-sign Williams. Probably go the discount route or draft a receiver.
Again, I think we need really good NFL receivers and good football players. Conley and Watkins ain’t it. Just my opinion.
I see us going, as good a guess as any really,
1. WR (Perhaps Waddle)
2. OG (Zeitler gone)
3. TE (need to upgrade the position)
RB
LB
CB
I think we have six picks.
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Could be a bargain. We need explosive speed and he has it. He won’t be expensive. I’ll take him as a #3.
Again, I think we need really good NFL receivers and good football players. Conley and Watkins ain’t it. Just my opinion.
I agree, I like Conley but I don’t see him being the answer for us. As for Watkins, he’s been boom/bust his whole career. Even with Mahomes we was never a star receiver.
(Yes, I’ve seen him play but wanted to see a projection of what he could become in the NFL.) (Jerry Rice?)
I don't see the Marvin Harrison comp. Smith is a long strider. Harrison was more choppy and quick footed. Instead, I see more of an Isaac Bruce type.
bw and ryan, if Smith ends up being as good as Bruce, Holt, or Tim Brown we will end up being very happy taking him at 11. I see him as a combination of Bruce and Holt.
And get a relatively cheap short term rental while the pick learns the ropes.
As far as NFL players now that remind me of him...I’m not sure. He does remind me a bit of a better version of Calvin Ridley.
Amari Cooper might be the most overpaid WR in the NFL. Not sure I'd characterize him as a victim of a depressed market.
Why would the Jags trade Chark? Lawrence is going to need weapons.
Last season was the first time he has missed more than one game in his career. He’s not an injury prone player.
Tim Brown was a bigger target and not nearly as quick as DSmith. I don't see that.
As an aside, I think Tim Brown is one of the most underrated players in NFL history. Go look at his numbers. And then think about the QBs he played with to compile those numbers. He didn't play with any HoFamers. Not even close...
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with Smith. Elite quickness and hands and a home run hitter, but can also go over the middle with toughness.
Tim Brown was a bigger target and not nearly as quick as DSmith. I don't see that.
As an aside, I think Tim Brown is one of the most underrated players in NFL history. Go look at his numbers. And then think about the QBs he played with to compile those numbers. He didn't play with any HoFamers. Not even close...
Tim Brown is one of my favorite players of all time. He was a tremendous receiver his entire career.
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Why do so many fans want to sign and pay a guy who cant stay on the field? Sounds just like something DG would do unfortunately.
Last season was the first time he has missed more than one game in his career. He’s not an injury prone player.
Can you do basic research rather than shoot from the hip? In fact, he's only played in one 16 game season in 4 years.