Weirdest thing about the Eagles trade was that they willingly went from drafting ahead of two division rivals to drafting behind two division rivals. What does that say about their thoughts on the prospects in the six to twelve range?
My draft plan...
Pick#11: Pitts, Chase, Smith, or Waddle. I really want another playmaking pass-catching threat in addition to Golladay. It's the multiple threats that make the Chiefs offense the most dangerous in the NFL. Pitts and Chase aren't likely to be available at 11, so I'm realistically hoping for Waddle or Smith. I was originally nervous about Smith's size, but the reality is the guy has had a healthier college career than most at his position. If the four passcatchers I mentioned are gone, Rousseau is the ER I like, but this might also be a situation for trading down and landing Kadarius Toney later in round one.
Pick#42: Leatherwood, Mayfield, Radunz, Davis. When I read what the respective draftniks have to say about the OL talent and where they land in their overall rankings, it is perfectly aligned for the Giants to fill their OL need in round two. Of the four mentioned above, I like Leatherwood th best because of his versatility and ability to immediately fill the starting right guard job. Davis can also immediately fill that same starting job, but he lacks the versatility that the other three have demonstrated when it comes to also competing at tackle (plus he's coming off an injury).
Pick#76:LB Baron Browning and RB Michael Carter are two prospects I like with this pick, but it's hard to get a handle on availability here because the draftniks are all over the place. If they go WR and OL in rounds 1 and 2, I can see them targeting ER or 5-technique with this pick, I'm just uncertain on the prospects.
Pick#116: Marvin Wilson and Khyiris Tonga are two nose tackles who could help replace the loss of Tomlinson with this pick. Hard to predict who will be available and in what round when it comes to Day 3, so I won't try, but the 4th round is a good place to find nose tackles, running backs, and offensive guards. It's also a good place to grab a developmental QB if you had a 2nd round grade on one that has slipped this far.
As for late round RB give me Rhamondre Stevenson Oklahoma
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My prediction is that the 3rd rounder will be a wtf headscratcher, and that won’t necessarily be bad. We are totally unaware of what the scouts think about some of the mid round prospects.
Nice work.
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I think the kid from Wisconsin Whitester is better. Quinn Meinerz
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I hope not, because he's in the mix for my annual "Give me _____ or give me death" thread.
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I think the kid from Wisconsin Whitester is better. Quinn Meinerz
Well then...
2. Tryon, ER
3. Ben Cleveland OG
4 James Hudson OT
That’s their approach and not what we overemphasize (like edge) or perceive a gigantic need that they don’t (like OL)
That’s their approach and not what we overemphasize (like edge) or perceive a gigantic need that they don’t (like OL)
You can’t run a machine with deficient parts. A bad OL will sink a quarterback, an edge rusher who can’t threaten a quarterback will give receivers enough time to get separation from the defensive backs.
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Then DT, then RB, then begin filling in other spots for depth (where OL and CB will come in, unless there’s a developmental QB).
That’s their approach and not what we overemphasize (like edge) or perceive a gigantic need that they don’t (like OL)
You can’t run a machine with deficient parts. A bad OL will sink a quarterback, an edge rusher who can’t threaten a quarterback will give receivers enough time to get separation from the defensive backs.
You’re just not watching this team and how they do things or postering to what they say when they talk about their team. You’re merely going by what you think they should do. They’re not going to force and edge rusher when they already have 5 guys to play the spot and also scheme to get their rush from other players. And at OL they’re not going to throw away someone who went through a rookie experience with all that entails and replace him with another rookie who will also go through the rookie experience and all that entails.
So the need for a bonafide talent who can compete at both guard spots and right tackle would be well worth the 42nd pick. This is why Leatherwood is such a good fit. The coaching staff would have to be pretty confident in Peart not to add a tackle prospect early in the draft. And if it's someone who can compete at both guard spots, they get to kill three birds with one stone. Dickerson is an excellent prospect along the interior OL, but he's never played outside. Same with Wyatt Davis, who only played right guard throughout his college career as far as I know.
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And at OL they’re not going to throw away someone who went through a rookie experience with all that entails and replace him with another rookie who will also go through the rookie experience and all that entails.
It's not about replacing Lemieux at left guard, it's about replacing Zeitler at right guard. Projecting Hernandez and Peart as starters on the right side with Fulton and Solder as their veteran backups is risky business. And it's not as if we are assured of Lemieux taking a step forward. Flowers and Hernandez both seemed to regress after their rookie years.
So the need for a bonafide talent who can compete at both guard spots and right tackle would be well worth the 42nd pick. This is why Leatherwood is such a good fit. The coaching staff would have to be pretty confident in Peart not to add a tackle prospect early in the draft. And if it's someone who can compete at both guard spots, they get to kill three birds with one stone. Dickerson is an excellent prospect along the interior OL, but he's never played outside. Same with Wyatt Davis, who only played right guard throughout his college career as far as I know.
Giants have been missing the point on OL for a LONG TIME. Let's see if they finally get it right here. Leatherwood due to the tremendous versatility is the guy you bring in and even trade up for if you have to. Judge has been preaching versatility. This team needs to build a great pass pro wall around Daniel and even with Leatherwood the other OG spot would still likely be a substandard pass pro guy in either Lemieux or Hwrnandez. But at least one OG spot would have a guy who has faced quality competition throughout the highest levels of college football. Watch out for Steelers though they like this kid a lot.
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In comment 15200314 Bill L said:
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Then DT, then RB, then begin filling in other spots for depth (where OL and CB will come in, unless there’s a developmental QB).
That’s their approach and not what we overemphasize (like edge) or perceive a gigantic need that they don’t (like OL)
You can’t run a machine with deficient parts. A bad OL will sink a quarterback, an edge rusher who can’t threaten a quarterback will give receivers enough time to get separation from the defensive backs.
You’re just not watching this team and how they do things or postering to what they say when they talk about their team. You’re merely going by what you think they should do. They’re not going to force and edge rusher when they already have 5 guys to play the spot and also scheme to get their rush from other players. And at OL they’re not going to throw away someone who went through a rookie experience with all that entails and replace him with another rookie who will also go through the rookie experience and all that entails.
Oh I am watching the team. How many times have you seen the offensive line break down and Jones make a poor play due to it? How many times have you seen the defensive line struggle to get to the quarterback and the quarterback pick us apart? The guys we have at edge aren’t doing the job, we’ve had three years to see Carter improve (to give an example) and he’s coming off a major injury.
WR is deep, interior OL is deep. We can add these positions in rounds 2 & 3.
Parsons is a guy we hope is available.