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Kev in Cali : 3/27/2021 7:06 pm
Line opened Knicks -11, now is Knicks +2

MIL: Giannis, Middleton, Holiday, Portis, Tucker OUT

NYN: Lots of GTD's and not sure how the lineup will go.

DO they match scrubs and give starters a rest??? I have no idea how to approach this game.

Knicks above .500 still by a game....I think we need to slam dunk this one with our bench and give some guys a rest.

Would love to see IQ, Burks, RJ run the point (though his TO's could hurt), Robinson and Taj getting the most playing time.

Randle needs a break...

GO Knicks!!!! GO RJ!!!
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RE: RE: Had the seder tonight so didn't catch any of it  
Stu11 : 3/27/2021 11:18 pm : link
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Seems like it was way closer than it should have been. Oh well a W is a W especially a game like this. Slowly but surely they are getting through the land mines in the 2nd half of the season and surviving it. Bummer about Mitch. You'd think they give Drummond a call but it sounds like that ship sailed on both sides.



Happy Passover Stu

Thanks!
RE: Is there a more annoying family  
chopperhatch : 3/27/2021 11:25 pm : link
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then the antentounkounpos...


You just typed antentounkounpos....so whatever your argument is....you win. Lol. But yes there is....the James family. Who names their kid after the 2nd syllable if their first name....TWICE?
Mavs lose to New Orleans.  
bceagle05 : 3/27/2021 11:35 pm : link
No Luka or KP, yet the game was pretty close. Two straight games missed by Luka due to his back woes.
The Mavs are in 8th place in the West  
robbieballs2003 : 3/27/2021 11:45 pm : link
But they should hold on. With that said, the top 10 teams in each conference make the playoffs or at least the play in game. Here is my question: Lets say Dallas is the 8th seed but they lose to the 9th seed, do they now enter the lottery?
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RE: RE: Id call Drummond  
Jon in NYC : 3/27/2021 11:59 pm : link
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and see if there is a chance he changes his mind and comes to NY..



Doesn’t clear waivers until tomorrow afternoon. I think the Knicks should offer him more dough this year. No multi year deal. What’s the number he doesn’t pass up for the Lakers?


Yeah that's a great question. I mean I'd consider even 3 years, 45 mil with 3rd year as a team option. If he plays well he's definitely a 15 Mil a year player, if he doesnt play well this season he's a 1 year 15 mil expiring that's easily tradable.

Even with that the Knicks will have a ton of cap space next offseason and that should help their flexibility re: Mitch
RE: I think the knicks should offer Drummond  
Leg of Theismann : 3/28/2021 12:05 am : link
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somewhere in the $7M ballpark which is far more then any other team can offer, plus the starting job and use the rest of the season as a trial to see how he fits in next to Randle and the rest of the team.

It's a win/win for the knicks and Drummond since he is able to come here and get more money plus get a big rile to also play for his next contract


I’m confused. Why am I seeing $7M for Drummond here being “far more than any other team can offer” and also seeing $15M per for 3 years ? How much is he worth?
RE: RE: I think the knicks should offer Drummond  
Jon in NYC : 3/28/2021 12:11 am : link
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somewhere in the $7M ballpark which is far more then any other team can offer, plus the starting job and use the rest of the season as a trial to see how he fits in next to Randle and the rest of the team.

It's a win/win for the knicks and Drummond since he is able to come here and get more money plus get a big rile to also play for his next contract



I’m confused. Why am I seeing $7M for Drummond here being “far more than any other team can offer” and also seeing $15M per for 3 years ? How much is he worth?


The Knicks are the only team with capspace. So they can offer more than any other team.
RE: RE: RE: Id call Drummond  
Jon in NYC : 3/28/2021 12:20 am : link
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and see if there is a chance he changes his mind and comes to NY..



Doesn’t clear waivers until tomorrow afternoon. I think the Knicks should offer him more dough this year. No multi year deal. What’s the number he doesn’t pass up for the Lakers?



Yeah that's a great question. I mean I'd consider even 3 years, 45 mil with 3rd year as a team option. If he plays well he's definitely a 15 Mil a year player, if he doesnt play well this season he's a 1 year 15 mil expiring that's easily tradable.

Even with that the Knicks will have a ton of cap space next offseason and that should help their flexibility re: Mitch


Meh this also might just be a bad idea. Could be better off sticking with Dieng.
Someone said Teague is available.  
robbieballs2003 : 3/28/2021 12:25 am : link
Is he a legit option?
RE: RE: I think the knicks should offer Drummond  
Giantfan21 : 3/28/2021 1:12 am : link
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somewhere in the $7M ballpark which is far more then any other team can offer, plus the starting job and use the rest of the season as a trial to see how he fits in next to Randle and the rest of the team.

It's a win/win for the knicks and Drummond since he is able to come here and get more money plus get a big rile to also play for his next contract



I’m confused. Why am I seeing $7M for Drummond here being “far more than any other team can offer” and also seeing $15M per for 3 years ? How much is he worth?


No other team can offer him anything more then the Vet minimum which is around $1M other then the Nets who are out on him after getting Aldridge.

Knicks have $15M in cap space so technically they can offer it all to him but i rather they split it and give half to him and half to another buyout player that might become available in the next 2 weeks
Luka was listed out tonight with an illness  
shyster : 3/28/2021 1:20 am : link
not because of back issue that was given as reason for missing front end of back-to-back.

Non-Covid illness.

Mavs started a five game road trip with their loss to the Pels.

Fourth game of the trip will be at MSG on Friday.
Luka illness story  
shyster : 3/28/2021 1:21 am : link
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Drummond basically wants to go to a place  
Jan in DC : 3/28/2021 1:36 am : link
where he will get playing time to show off his skill going into free agency. He'll get a ton of minutes in LA with AD at the 4 when he comes back, so I would imagine his agent will encourage him to go there.

Funny thing, I don't think there's any teams other than the Knicks that are going to have a ton of money going into free agency so... yea.

I want to be on the record and say I don't want him. I'd rather them look for a PG somewhere. Anywhere really, but we really need one.
RE: Drummond basically wants to go to a place  
chopperhatch : 3/28/2021 1:53 am : link
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where he will get playing time to show off his skill going into free agency. He'll get a ton of minutes in LA with AD at the 4 when he comes back, so I would imagine his agent will encourage him to go there.

Funny thing, I don't think there's any teams other than the Knicks that are going to have a ton of money going into free agency so... yea.

I want to be on the record and say I don't want him. I'd rather them look for a PG somewhere. Anywhere really, but we really need one.


Now Im confused......

Knicks just lost their starting Center and necer had one who could score regularly. But playing 3rd wheel to BroLon and AD is a better option than being immediately the low post option for the Knicks? What am I missing?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Id call Drummond  
TheMick7 : 3/28/2021 9:09 am : link
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and see if there is a chance he changes his mind and comes to NY..



Doesn’t clear waivers until tomorrow afternoon. I think the Knicks should offer him more dough this year. No multi year deal. What’s the number he doesn’t pass up for the Lakers?



Yeah that's a great question. I mean I'd consider even 3 years, 45 mil with 3rd year as a team option. If he plays well he's definitely a 15 Mil a year player, if he doesnt play well this season he's a 1 year 15 mil expiring that's easily tradable.

Even with that the Knicks will have a ton of cap space next offseason and that should help their flexibility re: Mitch



Meh this also might just be a bad idea. Could be better off sticking with Dieng.


This! Dieng fits into Thibs style of play (he already did in Minnesota0. Drummond is not a fit w/Randle. They certainly need another bid,as Noel does incur injuries & Gibson is 35. Dieng is a perfect plug-in for the rest of the season,while Drummond is not. Sometimes the better talent is not the better fit & this is one of those times!
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nygiants16 : 3/28/2021 9:28 am : link
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and see if there is a chance he changes his mind and comes to NY..



Doesn’t clear waivers until tomorrow afternoon. I think the Knicks should offer him more dough this year. No multi year deal. What’s the number he doesn’t pass up for the Lakers?



Yeah that's a great question. I mean I'd consider even 3 years, 45 mil with 3rd year as a team option. If he plays well he's definitely a 15 Mil a year player, if he doesnt play well this season he's a 1 year 15 mil expiring that's easily tradable.

Even with that the Knicks will have a ton of cap space next offseason and that should help their flexibility re: Mitch



Meh this also might just be a bad idea. Could be better off sticking with Dieng.



This! Dieng fits into Thibs style of play (he already did in Minnesota0. Drummond is not a fit w/Randle. They certainly need another bid,as Noel does incur injuries & Gibson is 35. Dieng is a perfect plug-in for the rest of the season,while Drummond is not. Sometimes the better talent is not the better fit & this is one of those times!


Curious why you think he is not a fit, it cant be because of spacing, because it is no different than Randle playing with Mitch..

Drummond adds another dimension offensively, defensively will be the question, if he is engaged he can be a very good defender
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/28/2021 9:29 am : link
Sucks about Mitch. And it sounds like Drummond is LA bound/Thibs doesn't want him.
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nygiants16 : 3/28/2021 9:35 am : link
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Sucks about Mitch. And it sounds like Drummond is LA bound/Thibs doesn't want him.


Probabky going to end up being Dieng if i had to guess
Last night seemed  
nygiants16 : 3/28/2021 9:39 am : link
like the start of the phasing oit of Payton, played 6 minutes in the first and 7 in the 3rd and that was it..

I hope once Rose is fully back he is the starter with Quick off the bench
I wonder if they make a move for Teague.  
robbieballs2003 : 3/28/2021 10:07 am : link
I admit to not have seem him lately. From what I read his play fell off this year but I also read that he used to be a good defender. Therefore I'd be willing to give him a shot over Payton.

I don't think Rose will be able to handle big minutes over an extended period of time. If you want to do that for the playoff run then by all means go for it. I just think you are asking for trouble doing that now.
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TheMick7 : 3/28/2021 10:34 am : link
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and see if there is a chance he changes his mind and comes to NY..



Doesn’t clear waivers until tomorrow afternoon. I think the Knicks should offer him more dough this year. No multi year deal. What’s the number he doesn’t pass up for the Lakers?



Yeah that's a great question. I mean I'd consider even 3 years, 45 mil with 3rd year as a team option. If he plays well he's definitely a 15 Mil a year player, if he doesnt play well this season he's a 1 year 15 mil expiring that's easily tradable.

Even with that the Knicks will have a ton of cap space next offseason and that should help their flexibility re: Mitch



Meh this also might just be a bad idea. Could be better off sticking with Dieng.



This! Dieng fits into Thibs style of play (he already did in Minnesota0. Drummond is not a fit w/Randle. They certainly need another bid,as Noel does incur injuries & Gibson is 35. Dieng is a perfect plug-in for the rest of the season,while Drummond is not. Sometimes the better talent is not the better fit & this is one of those times!



Curious why you think he is not a fit, it cant be because of spacing, because it is no different than Randle playing with Mitch..

Drummond adds another dimension offensively, defensively will be the question, if he is engaged he can be a very good defender


Actually,it's a huge difference between Mitch & Drummond(and I like Drummond!). Mitch is a defensive presence that blocks shots, who is a garbage man offensively,with nothing run specifically for him. Drummond is an offensive center,not a shot blocker,who sets up in the same areas as Randle.Yes,Drummond is an excellent rebounder,but rebounds aren't a Knicks problem. Only way he's coming to the Knicks is if they make a monetary commitment & I,personally, don't see Drummond as the center on a Thibs coached team!
RE: I wonder if they make a move for Teague.  
larryflower37 : 3/28/2021 10:41 am : link
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I admit to not have seem him lately. From what I read his play fell off this year but I also read that he used to be a good defender. Therefore I'd be willing to give him a shot over Payton.

I don't think Rose will be able to handle big minutes over an extended period of time. If you want to do that for the playoff run then by all means go for it. I just think you are asking for trouble doing that now.


I doubt Teague is an option his defense is horrible.
Dieng signing with Spurs  
nygiants16 : 3/28/2021 11:25 am : link
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They're  
Jon in NYC : 3/28/2021 11:37 am : link
gonna end up with bummy ass John Henson
Why not Skal? How's he doing in Westchester?  
Anakim : 3/28/2021 11:44 am : link
If not Drummond, IDK who else is out there. Cousins? There's the Kentucky connection. Meyers Leonard is a FA after that anti-Semitic incident. What about Justin Patton?
Rivers to the bucks rumor.  
larryflower37 : 3/28/2021 1:32 pm : link
Of course because they need another 3 pt shooter.
Mike Woodson expected to take the Indiana U. job, per Shams.  
bceagle05 : 3/28/2021 4:03 pm : link
His alma mater. He must be thrilled.
RE: Mike Woodson expected to take the Indiana U. job, per Shams.  
BigBlueShock : 3/28/2021 4:11 pm : link
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His alma mater. He must be thrilled.

It’s absolutely amazing that the Knicks are finally having a season hovering around .500 and now we are having the coaching staff/front office trying to get poached on a seemingly daily basis. This is the third time in the past week
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chopperhatch : 3/28/2021 4:24 pm : link
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and see if there is a chance he changes his mind and comes to NY..



Doesn’t clear waivers until tomorrow afternoon. I think the Knicks should offer him more dough this year. No multi year deal. What’s the number he doesn’t pass up for the Lakers?



Yeah that's a great question. I mean I'd consider even 3 years, 45 mil with 3rd year as a team option. If he plays well he's definitely a 15 Mil a year player, if he doesnt play well this season he's a 1 year 15 mil expiring that's easily tradable.

Even with that the Knicks will have a ton of cap space next offseason and that should help their flexibility re: Mitch



Meh this also might just be a bad idea. Could be better off sticking with Dieng.



This! Dieng fits into Thibs style of play (he already did in Minnesota0. Drummond is not a fit w/Randle. They certainly need another bid,as Noel does incur injuries & Gibson is 35. Dieng is a perfect plug-in for the rest of the season,while Drummond is not. Sometimes the better talent is not the better fit & this is one of those times!



Curious why you think he is not a fit, it cant be because of spacing, because it is no different than Randle playing with Mitch..

Drummond adds another dimension offensively, defensively will be the question, if he is engaged he can be a very good defender



Actually,it's a huge difference between Mitch & Drummond(and I like Drummond!). Mitch is a defensive presence that blocks shots, who is a garbage man offensively,with nothing run specifically for him. Drummond is an offensive center,not a shot blocker,who sets up in the same areas as Randle.Yes,Drummond is an excellent rebounder,but rebounds aren't a Knicks problem. Only way he's coming to the Knicks is if they make a monetary commitment & I,personally, don't see Drummond as the center on a Thibs coached team!



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Randle brings the ball up, does most of his work facing the basket, usually starting beyond the 3 point line (kind of infuriating honetly sometimes) and then the right elbow when he decides to post. Drummond may like the elbow too but its not as if that will be unavailable to him because Randle is so mobile.

The idea that Randle and Drummond are going to be wanting the same space is pretty out there. Im sure Randle would have no problem keeping his motion/flex game while Drummond took the post. Randle really only gets cooking when he is taking dudes off the dribble.
RE: RE: Mike Woodson expected to take the Indiana U. job, per Shams.  
chopperhatch : 3/28/2021 4:25 pm : link
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His alma mater. He must be thrilled.


It’s absolutely amazing that the Knicks are finally having a season hovering around .500 and now we are having the coaching staff/front office trying to get poached on a seemingly daily basis. This is the third time in the past week


I heard about Payton....wPayton....who was the third?
Hornets lost  
larryflower37 : 3/28/2021 4:49 pm : link
Alone in the 4 spot.
Need the next 2 wins
RE: RE: RE: Mike Woodson expected to take the Indiana U. job, per Shams.  
BigBlueShock : 3/28/2021 4:59 pm : link
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His alma mater. He must be thrilled.


It’s absolutely amazing that the Knicks are finally having a season hovering around .500 and now we are having the coaching staff/front office trying to get poached on a seemingly daily basis. This is the third time in the past week



I heard about Payton....wPayton....who was the third?

The University of Utah were interested in hiring Johnny Bryant as its HC but he withdrew his name from consideration to stay with the Knicks
Knicks waive Ferguson  
nygiants16 : 3/28/2021 5:12 pm : link
have 2 roster spots now
Drummond to the Lakers  
Del Shofner : 3/28/2021 6:46 pm : link
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RE: Drummond to the Lakers  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/28/2021 7:09 pm : link
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Not surprising. Ring chasing.
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chopperhatch : 3/28/2021 7:11 pm : link
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His alma mater. He must be thrilled.


It’s absolutely amazing that the Knicks are finally having a season hovering around .500 and now we are having the coaching staff/front office trying to get poached on a seemingly daily basis. This is the third time in the past week



I heard about Payton....wPayton....who was the third?


The University of Utah were interested in hiring Johnny Bryant as its HC but he withdrew his name from consideration to stay with the Knicks


I was about to make a fat joke but realized Majerus died not too long ago.
RE: RE: Drummond to the Lakers  
chopperhatch : 3/28/2021 7:13 pm : link
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Not surprising. Ring chasing.


Can anybody really beat them? I have watvhed this league for a while, but BronBron McBronnerston really has a squad of Mawnstars.
Or should I say BRONstars??  
chopperhatch : 3/28/2021 7:15 pm : link
Chopper.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/28/2021 7:16 pm : link
Depends on health. If LBJ & AD are 100%, the Nets, also @ 100%, are the sole team that can beat them IMO. What I would love-as a Lakers hater-is that, in their superstars absence, the Lakers fall into the play in game & potentially miss the playoffs in it's entirety. Do I see that happening? No, but one can dream.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/28/2021 7:17 pm : link
As much as I'd love the Knicks to make the Finals, I'm realistic. The Finals I think that would really be fun is Nuggets vs. 76ers, Joker vs. Embiid.
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larryflower37 : 3/28/2021 7:19 pm : link
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Can anybody really beat them? I have watvhed this league for a while, but BronBron McBronnerston really has a squad of Mawnstars.


I guess it depends on A.D and lebron's injuries.
So who do the Knicks sign with their 2 spots?  
nygiants16 : 3/28/2021 7:20 pm : link
Knicms have to fill one by 4/11 according to Marks..

I think they sign Teague and i think Cousins might not be a bad fit off the bench
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/28/2021 7:24 pm : link
Teague & Cousins are both washed. And Boogie...I fear he still thinks he's the Boogie of old & could be a hindrance in the development of the young pups.
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nygiants16 : 3/28/2021 7:31 pm : link
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Teague & Cousins are both washed. And Boogie...I fear he still thinks he's the Boogie of old & could be a hindrance in the development of the young pups.


Teague because he has played for Thibs before..

Cousins off the bench for 15 to 20 minutes a night wouldnt be terrible, give them a little more scoring off the bench
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/28/2021 7:36 pm : link
As long as he knows his role, Boogie that is. You're right-not a bad option off the bench.
Drummond would’ve been a risky signing for the Knicks  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/28/2021 7:38 pm : link
Good move to stay away from him imo. He was awful this year and has been a low impact empty stat player for a while.

On a team with LeBron/AD, he might finally understand what it takes to be a winning player and actually try on defense and play smarter offensively. But I don’t think that would’ve happened on the Knicks.
RE: Drummond would’ve been a risky signing for the Knicks  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/28/2021 7:40 pm : link
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Good move to stay away from him imo. He was awful this year and has been a low impact empty stat player for a while.

On a team with LeBron/AD, he might finally understand what it takes to be a winning player and actually try on defense and play smarter offensively. But I don’t think that would’ve happened on the Knicks.


Yup. I wanted no part of Drummond.
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larryflower37 : 3/28/2021 8:26 pm : link
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Teague & Cousins are both washed. And Boogie...I fear he still thinks he's the Boogie of old & could be a hindrance in the development of the young pups.



Teague because he has played for Thibs before..

Cousins off the bench for 15 to 20 minutes a night wouldnt be terrible, give them a little more scoring off the bench


You do know Boogie was cut by the Rockets and has been out of basketball for a reason.
He is a culture killer and plays zero defense.
Teague has nothing left.
Sign to young players to sit at the end of the bench and learn.
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nygiants16 : 3/28/2021 9:01 pm : link
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Teague & Cousins are both washed. And Boogie...I fear he still thinks he's the Boogie of old & could be a hindrance in the development of the young pups.



Teague because he has played for Thibs before..

Cousins off the bench for 15 to 20 minutes a night wouldnt be terrible, give them a little more scoring off the bench



You do know Boogie was cut by the Rockets and has been out of basketball for a reason.
He is a culture killer and plays zero defense.
Teague has nothing left.
Sign to young players to sit at the end of the bench and learn.


Id they were going to do that they wouldnof just kept ferguson and pourier
The plan for those two spots  
Del Shofner : 3/28/2021 9:36 pm : link
is not clear to me.

The buyout market seems over, and the G League is over.

In Rose and Wes I trust but WTF.
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