BBI Mock Draft – DISCUSSION Thread

145. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - Ar'Darius Washington, S, TCU auto selection
146. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Rachad Wildgoose, CB, Wisconsin
147. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Sage Surratt, WR, Wake Forest
148. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Kellen Mond, QB, Texas A&M
149. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State
150. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) - Rhamondre Stevenson, RB, Oklahoma
151. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Jamien Sherwood, S, Auburn
152. Denver (jlukes) - Elijah Mitchell, RB, Louisiana
153. Detroit (superspynyg) - Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State
154. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from NYG) - Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa
155. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - Talanoa Hufanga, S, USC
156. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from Phi, Dal) - Richard LeCounte III, S, Georgia
157. Minnesota (johnnyb) - Robert Hainsey, IOL, Notre Dame
158. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from NE) - K.J. Britt, LB, Auburn
159. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) - Tre' McKitty, TE, Georgia
160. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Trey Sermon, RB, Ohio State
161. Buffalo (Uconngiant) (from LV) - JaCoby Stevens, S, LSU auto selection
162. Las Vegas (Amtoft) (from Mia) - Jaelon Darden, WR/RS, North Texas
163. Washington (SirYesSir) - Janarius Robinson, EDGE, Florida State
164. Chicago (Anakim) - Tommy Togiai, IDL, Ohio State
165. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Dan Moore Jr., OT/IOL, Texas A&M
166. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) - Tommy Kraemer, IOL, Notre Dame
167. Las Vegas (Amtoft) (from Sea) - Rodarius Williams, CB, Oklahoma State
168. Minnesota (johnnyb) (from Bal, Pit) - Khalil Herbert, RB, Virginia Tech
169. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from LAR) - Jacob Harris, WR/TE, UCF
170. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) (from Cle) - On the clock
171. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
172. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from NO)
173. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
174. Buffalo (Tom in Kzoo)
175. Kansas City (English Alaister)
176. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
177. New England (comp)
178. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (comp)
179. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (comp)
180. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp)
181. Kansas City (English Alaister) (comp)
182. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (comp)
183. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (comp)
184. Baltimore (Mike in NY) (comp)

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The New York Giants have met with UCF WR/TE Jacob Harris, who is considered a top sleeper in the 2021 NFL draft.

Good to to know the Giants met with Harris, and nice pick Lionheart28. But if a player is “considered a top sleeper,” is he still a sleeper?
Here’s the original tweet Benton picked up - ( New Window )

Searching users indicates that Kevin was logged on to BBI around 11 PM last night. The top two players on my board that Matt has has not changed so either he or I will fire pick after Kevin selects

Hehe!

spoke too soon. Call out got him to the table, and then he goes and takes my top target.

Thanks a bunch, Kevin


Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. It was a long shot that Kylin Hill was going to make it to me in the 6th, but it still stings.

Grumpf!!

Maybe a bit of an overdraft, but he was my last OT with a draftable grade and with Orlando Brown unhappy I did want to land an OT at some point.

Doyle is intriguing as a late round developmental swing tackle. Absolutely mammoth specimen at 6'8" 320 and arms greater than 35". Numbers were insane for a late round guy (5.12 40, 4.6 SS, sub-7.6 3 cone). The issue is his play doesn't always reflect the tools and that is why he is a mid to late Day 3 pick and not higher. Figured it was worth the gamble at 171 rather than risking if he'd fall to 184 or 210.

Without the normal pre-draft process, how do you evaluate him? The electric plays are there on tape, on offense and special teams. Production? Not so much. Colin has been very high on him. With other draftniks, he’s barely on the radar at all. Seems like a nice cheap lottery ticket at this stage though.

I think I went a bit early (twhs).

Will re-do if Tom wants the same player.

I agree with you totally. But at this point in the draft and worst case scenario the 49ers get a great special teamer with great upside. He was an excellent kick returner and took two kicks to the house for the Hawkeyes. Was hard to pass up here.

still on the clock

Next pick was going to be so easy and now he will be gone before I pick. Someone will steal thanks to Sy.

In comment 15215800 Amtoft said:

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Next pick was going to be so easy and now he will be gone before I pick. Someone will steal thanks to Sy.

That is what Sy does. Ha!

In comment 15215800 Amtoft said:

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Next pick was going to be so easy and now he will be gone before I pick. Someone will steal thanks to Sy.

Don't worry about me, I do not suddenly move people around just because Sy ranks a player higher or lower. I have seen him miss with players he was much higher on than the rest of the "community" only for them to never amount to anything. If I were to do a consensus rank of players I generally remove the highest and lowest ranking I see just to account for individual bias or someone having caught a player on a good or bad day. Especially at the lower levels you do not get a lot of looks at a player so your view can be skewed easily.

Whoa! You indicated that your selection is a DL. From the photo you posted, he looks like he is the defensive line for BYU. That is a very big man. Nice.

Played 4 years at Nebraska starting 40 games.31 at LT and 9 at RT.Had a good week at Senior Bowl and met with Cowboys twice. Once at Senior Bowl and a recent virtual meeting.
Only negative is 32 5/8" arms.
25 BP
7.46 3 cone
4.50 SS

In comment 15215520 Big Blue Blogger said:

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Quote: The New York Giants have met with UCF WR/TE Jacob Harris, who is considered a top sleeper in the 2021 NFL draft. Good to to know the Giants met with Harris, and nice pick Lionheart28. But if a player is “considered a top sleeper,” is he still a sleeper? Here’s the original tweet Benton picked up - ( New Window )

Haha I like that. If a sleeper is crowned by the media, is he really even a sleeper? But that kid has been meeting with a ton of teams.

145. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - Ar'Darius Washington, S, TCU auto selection
146. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Rachad Wildgoose, CB, Wisconsin
147. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Sage Surratt, WR, Wake Forest
148. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Kellen Mond, QB, Texas A&M
149. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State
150. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) - Rhamondre Stevenson, RB, Oklahoma
151. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Jamien Sherwood, S, Auburn
152. Denver (jlukes) - Elijah Mitchell, RB, Louisiana
153. Detroit (superspynyg) - Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State
154. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from NYG) - Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa
155. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - Talanoa Hufanga, S, USC
156. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from Phi, Dal) - Richard LeCounte III, S, Georgia
157. Minnesota (johnnyb) - Robert Hainsey, IOL, Notre Dame
158. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from NE) - K.J. Britt, LB, Auburn
159. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) - Tre' McKitty, TE, Georgia
160. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Trey Sermon, RB, Ohio State
161. Buffalo (Uconngiant) (from LV) - JaCoby Stevens, S, LSU auto selection
162. Las Vegas (Amtoft) (from Mia) - Jaelon Darden, WR/RS, North Texas
163. Washington (SirYesSir) - Janarius Robinson, EDGE, Florida State
164. Chicago (Anakim) - Tommy Togiai, IDL, Ohio State
165. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Dan Moore Jr., OT/IOL, Texas A&M
166. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) - Tommy Kraemer, IOL, Notre Dame
167. Las Vegas (Amtoft) (from Sea) - Rodarius Williams, CB, Oklahoma State
168. Minnesota (johnnyb) (from Bal, Pit) - Khalil Herbert, RB, Virginia Tech
169. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from LAR) - Jacob Harris, WR/TE, UCF
170. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) (from Cle) - Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi St
171. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Tommy Doyle, OT, Miami (Ohio)
172. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from NO) - Ihmir Smith-Marsette, WR, Iowa
173. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) - Garret Wallow, LB, TCU
174. Buffalo (Tom in Kzoo) - Israel Mukuamu, CB, South Carolina
175. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Keith Taylor, CB, Washington
176. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - T.J. Vasher, WR, Texas Tech
177. New England (Sean) (comp) - Adrian Ealy, OT, Oklahoma
178. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (comp) - Khyiris Tonga, IDL, BYU
179. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (comp) - Brenden Jaimes, OT, Nebraska
180. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp) - Jimmy Morrissey, IOL, Pittsburgh
181. Kansas City (English Alaister) (comp) - On the clock
182. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (comp)
183. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (comp)
184. Baltimore (Mike in NY) (comp)

Round 6
185. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) (from Jax, Ten)
186. New York Jets (Jon in NYC)
187. Atlanta (NoGainDayne)
188. New England (Sean) (from Hou)
189. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
190. Cincinnati (Matt G)
191. Denver (jlukes)
192. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (from Det)
193. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
194. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
195. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from NE, Dal)
196. New York Giants (MadPlaid)
197. New England (Sean)
198. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger)
199. Minnesota (johnnyb)
200. Las Vegas (Amtoft)
201. New York Giants (MadPlaid) (from Ari)
202. Cincinnati (Matt G) (from Mia, Hou)
203. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Was, LV, Mia)
204. Chicago (Anakim)
205. Tennessee (TommytheElephant)
206. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
207. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from Pit, Mia)
208. Chicago (Anakim) (from Sea, Mia)
209. LA Rams (JayBinQueens)
210. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
211. Cleveland (Lionhart28)
212. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from NO)
213. Buffalo (Tom in Kzoo)
214. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
215. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) (from KC)
216. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) (from TB)
217. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (comp)
218. New Orleans (Doubledeuce22) (comp)
219. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (comp)
220. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (comp)
221. Chicago (Anakim) (comp)
222. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (comp)
223. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Min) (comp)
224. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (comp)
225. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (comp)
226. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from Car)
227. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (comp)
228. Chicago (Anakim) (comp)

He goes to Atlanta at #182. I hope NoGainDayne won’t take my other option too.

In comment 15216298 Big Blue Blogger said:

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He goes to Atlanta at #182. I hope NoGainDayne won’t take my other option too.

Don’t forget about me at 184. I have it narrowed down to two players so I should be ready regardless of what NGD does at 183

His measurables are great, and he was a productive safety at Virginia Tech. Tweener, definitely, but we liked that. He’d have been a hybrid for the Chargers, who are in good shape at the starting safety positions.

I shouldn’t have overlooked you. Baltimore has already snagged a couple of my favorites.

In comment 15216303 Big Blue Blogger said:

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I shouldn’t have overlooked you. Baltimore has already snagged a couple of my favorites.

Which ones? There hasn’t been as much feedback as in past years because evaluations are all over the map on players so just figured I’d ask.

Mike in NY said:

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Which ones? There hasn’t been as much feedback as in past years because evaluations are all over the map on players so just figured I’d ask.

Collins and Johnson would have been luxury picks for LAC, but our board was loaded with OL (because our roster isn’t), and the two you took were near the top when you picked them.

It was ultimately between Meinerz and Trey Smith because of how the Mock broke, but between the blood clots and Meinerz being a smidge better fit for Ravens offense I went with Meinerz

Mike: As for Meinerz and Smith, that worked out for both of us. The Chargers just gave Linsley a boatload of guaranteed money, so Meinerz would have been a guard in LA and his ability to play center would only have mattered on the depth chart. Smith’s history of blood clots is scary, but he was irresistible at #77, even after taking Wyatt Davis at #47 (and signing two UFAs to play guard in the near term).

Divine Deablo was going fall to my pick at 196. From what I read online, he sounded like a perfect late round flier. Great measurables and play making ability. I saw him as a good back up and special teamer while the Giants figured out how best to use him.

Oh well. Next

And another early in RD6

Just send him another reminder

In comment 15216318 MadPlaid said:

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Divine Deablo was going fall to my pick at 196. From what I read online, he sounded like a perfect late round flier. Great measurables and play making ability. I saw him as a good back up and special teamer while the Giants figured out how best to use him. Oh well. Next

I was hoping to take at 190 as well

In comment 15216322 Matt G said:

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In comment 15216318 MadPlaid said: Quote: Divine Deablo was going fall to my pick at 196. From what I read online, he sounded like a perfect late round flier. Great measurables and play making ability. I saw him as a good back up and special teamer while the Giants figured out how best to use him. Oh well. Next I was hoping to take at 190 as well

Good to know we all saw the same thing. Deablo is a good 6th round prospect.

I am still fine going highest name available on my 171 list so if you see I am on the clock at 184 before I do feel free to fire selection

I know it’s confusing (two Mikes picking in a row), but the text of that pick looks like it might have come from me (i.e. the Chargers)

Sorry guys! Meant to post for BBB

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Thanks again.

With the 184th pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select:

Dez Fitzpatrick, WR, Louisville

Ravens and Chargers picks are up, in the correct order.

Are we doing a 7th round this year??

In comment 15216449 Big Blue Blogger said:

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I know it’s confusing (two Mikes picking in a row), but the text of that pick looks like it might have come from me (i.e. the Chargers)

Nice pick with Snowden. He was under consideration, but didn’t make the short list. Was targeting WR’s so had a few names as we get to more filling items that weren’t previously addressed as too many were ranked similarly. Now need to reset board for 210. With all of the hype on Atwell, when I watched Louisville it was the guy opposite him who intrigued me. Strong week at Senior Bowl and has ridiculous arm length/wingspan for a WR. Lamar Jackson was pushing hard for him as well.

In comment 15216469 Rick in Dallas said:

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Are we doing a 7th round this year??

That's the plan for now

We started it last year as MANY GMs requested (likely all stir crazy from the onset of COVID)... My personal opinion is that RD6 + an expanded UDFA pool (7-8 vs 5) would be preferable as many people's boards are thin are there ends up being minimal overlap...

Let's see how it goes

I like your plan.

In comment 15216475 Matt G said:

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In comment 15216469 Rick in Dallas said: Quote: Are we doing a 7th round this year?? That's the plan for now We started it last year as MANY GMs requested (likely all stir crazy from the onset of COVID)... My personal opinion is that RD6 + an expanded UDFA pool (7-8 vs 5) would be preferable as many people's boards are thin are there ends up being minimal overlap... Let's see how it goes

I will do whatever you want since I lack a 7th Round pick

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so, I guess, we don't have a say. Ending after 6 makes sense under current circumstances. Plus, my observation of this year's draft enthusiasm has me thinking a 7th round is unlikely for BBI's managers.

... and move on to UDFA after Round Six. I’m already in BPA mode for our next pick at #198. Snowden was my last specific target.

Last year was an exceptional year on many fronts including our BBI Mock

I will send an email to all GMs

at 6

Yes, last year was extraordinary when it came to the mock draft. So much energy and participation. It was going so well, it felt if we wanted to go old school 12 rounds, it may have been possible.

For whatever reason, this year's energy and enthusiasm has ebbed. Go figure

In comment 15216554 MadPlaid said:

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Yes, last year was extraordinary when it came to the mock draft. So much energy and participation. It was going so well, it felt if we wanted to go old school 12 rounds, it may have been possible. For whatever reason, this year's energy and enthusiasm has ebbed. Go figure

I think 6RDs + UDFAs (for all of us psychos) has always been the sweet spot

And for any waning enthusiasm, we still have just 3 missed picks by 2 GMs... just saying ;)

NoGainDayne managed to select with his three picks the two players at the top of my list of interest. Deablo and Smith. awesome. Son of a.....

In comment 15216609 MadPlaid said:

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NoGainDayne managed to select with his three picks the two players at the top of my list of interest. Deablo and Smith. awesome. Son of a.....

If I were you I’d have some fun here, but alas I am not you and I don’t have your email address to share my sense of humor