BBI Mock Draft – DISCUSSION Thread

In comment 15216609 MadPlaid said:

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NoGainDayne managed to select with his three picks the two players at the top of my list of interest. Deablo and Smith. awesome. Son of a.....

Well my reception has been unexpectedly spotty but it’s nice to know my drafting hasn’t suffered lol sometimes the draft doesn’t move at all on the weekends. Apologies for being a slower culprit on this occasion.

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I gave him another look after reading that post, but decided Snowden was still a better fit. Glad to see things moving again.

In comment 15216616 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 15216609 MadPlaid said: Quote: NoGainDayne managed to select with his three picks the two players at the top of my list of interest. Deablo and Smith. awesome. Son of a..... If I were you I’d have some fun here, but alas I am not you and I don’t have your email address to share my sense of humor

I always like a good laugh. I sent Matt an e-mail asking if he could please share my e-mail address with you. So hopefully you can share your sense of humor with me in the near future.

Cheers

In comment 15216643 Big Blue Blogger said:

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I gave him another look after reading that post, but decided Snowden was still a better fit. Glad to see things moving again.

Yes, I suspected that. Still, it was nice thought none the less.

With the first of three 6th round draft picks, we reach into Conference USA for a developmental OL project. Jones will have to move inside at the next level, but we think he has the raw tools that our staff will be able to mold into a solid everyday player.

As always I will find any time I can to keep things moving, but would appreciate everyone doing the same.

I will send my RD6 pick to Mike in NY as well

Nobody knows when the draft is going to end and it’s a complete crapshoot as to who will be online when it does.

People can call out which udfas they like, but they shouldn’t included in the final results

In comment 15216962 jlukes said:

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Nobody knows when the draft is going to end and it’s a complete crapshoot as to who will be online when it does. People can call out which udfas they like, but they shouldn’t included in the final results

I like UDFA as it is useful to follow with the real draft

the UDFA portion is a lot of fun. It is the last hurrah of player collection. I don't take it really that seriously as a measure of my selection prowess. More an opportunity to list off 5 players that were of interest to me, and thought they would be good adds for my team.

In the end, the rush to list off those players after the last selection is made is rather hilarious. We invariably have duplications, and have to quickly find replacements, before they are taken too.

I see jlukes point on this as well. Although, I think if he examined the process from a different perspective and try to accept it as just a ridiculous exercise, he would see it is really fun.

Surprised he was still available in the 6th round. Had a very good week of practice at the Senior Bowl. I think he will add depth to the Cowboys DE group.

Nice selection.

In comment 15216985 MadPlaid said:

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the UDFA portion is a lot of fun. It is the last hurrah of player collection. I don't take it really that seriously as a measure of my selection prowess. More an opportunity to list off 5 players that were of interest to me, and thought they would be good adds for my team. In the end, the rush to list off those players after the last selection is made is rather hilarious. We invariably have duplications, and have to quickly find replacements, before they are taken too. I see jlukes point on this as well. Although, I think if he examined the process from a different perspective and try to accept it as just a ridiculous exercise, he would see it is really fun.

Agreed. It is a ridiculous exercise, but has to be taken as a fun activity, as opposed to being a serious one in order to best enjoy it.

In comment 15216985 MadPlaid said:

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the UDFA portion is a lot of fun. It is the last hurrah of player collection. I don't take it really that seriously as a measure of my selection prowess. More an opportunity to list off 5 players that were of interest to me, and thought they would be good adds for my team. In the end, the rush to list off those players after the last selection is made is rather hilarious. We invariably have duplications, and have to quickly find replacements, before they are taken too. I see jlukes point on this as well. Although, I think if he examined the process from a different perspective and try to accept it as just a ridiculous exercise, he would see it is really fun.

It’s fine. But Matt shouldn’t include the results in the mock draft results

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The Giants' pick is in. Wyatt Hubert is a high motor guy who makes up for a lack of athleticism by working harder than everybody. You got to love those kind of guys, and the perfect time to select one is the latter rounds of the draft.

Having already picked two guards, and with two good veteran right tackles making a lot of money (Feiler will have to play guard until Bulaga inevitably gets hurt again), Jones ceased to be an option because he probably can't play left tackle in the NFL. Nice addition for the Eagles.

MadPlaid: Their are sources other than Sy. Seriously, though - good pick at this stage of the draft, and definitely an NYG-type selection.

...complete with a silly gif. I have to go into an intense call at 10, but will keep one eye on the selection thread and follow New England as quickly as I can.

But Sy is sooo good. He would never steer me wrong.

I actually look for a consensus from multiple sources on the web when I make my choices. I don't watch college ball, so I have to rely on others who do to best inform my decisions. Sy's eval brought Wyatt Hubert to my attention. Then it was the other sites available on the web who helped me to confirm this was a good guy to pick up late in the draft.

I had another Edge guy who I seriously considered here. I flipped a coin in the end and went with Hubert.

In comment 15217221 Big Blue Blogger said:

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...complete with a silly gif. I have to go into an intense call at 10, but will keep one eye on the selection thread and follow New England as quickly as I can.

Nice pick with Imatorbhebhe. He was the next name on my list had Fitzpatrick been selected before pick 184

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Nice pick with Imatorbhebhe. He was the next name on my list had Fitzpatrick been selected before pick 184

One note of caution on that vertical-leap GIF: If the scale and perspective are right, Imatorbhebhe is roughly the same height as Manute Bol.

I enjoy your take on the players you select. In general, your posts are consistently a good read. Thank you for being one of the better parts of the mock draft.

MadPlaid said:

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I enjoy your take on the players you select. In general, your posts are consistently a good read. Thank you for being one of the better parts of the mock draft.

The feeling is mutual, MadPlaid. Great job with the NYG picks. Best to you and your family.

Thank you. And, to you and yours as well.

Cheers

In comment 15217215 Big Blue Blogger said:

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Having already picked two guards, and with two good veteran right tackles making a lot of money (Feiler will have to play guard until Bulaga inevitably gets hurt again), Jones ceased to be an option because he probably can't play left tackle in the NFL. Nice addition for the Eagles. MadPlaid: Their are sources other than Sy. Seriously, though - good pick at this stage of the draft, and definitely an NYG-type selection.

Thanks BBB. He's the perfect kind of developmental player to use a day 3 pick on. I'd be happy if we used one on him.

Ultimately I don't care - I'm happy to do whatever. But I think we should decide what we're going to do before the draft and then stick to that. Changing in the 6th round leaves some people at a disadvantage. And in principle I agree with jlukes about UDFA's - your success relies entirely on happening to be on BBI the millisecond the final pick is made. It's a fun exercise, but it's not remotely fair...

In comment 15217381 Chris in Philly said:

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Ultimately I don't care - I'm happy to do whatever. But I think we should decide what we're going to do before the draft and then stick to that. Changing in the 6th round leaves some people at a disadvantage. And in principle I agree with jlukes about UDFA's - your success relies entirely on happening to be on BBI the millisecond the final pick is made. It's a fun exercise, but it's not remotely fair...

As mentioned earlier, we expanded last year during the draft at the request of several GMs to keep going. In fact, this is the same approach we used when expanding from 4RDs to 5RDs and from 5RDs to 6RDs. IMO, 6RDs has always been the sweet spot. We've been there for about 7-8 years and my vote would have been to stay there last year. That being said, I wanted to be flexible given the number of requests we had received and the fact that we were all a bit stir crazy from the pandemic.

The UDFA process was always meant to be a fun exercise in getting deep sleepers to the table without keeping the clock going and me having to send out reminder emails for several more days when in reality there isn't a ton of overlap with people's respective boards this far into the draft. Plus, one could argue it more closely resembles the actual UDFA process. If more GMs prefer to kill it, I'm happy to do so.

in terms of the # of rounds. I think given the cap what might me the most “realistic” is if we each had a budget of say 100 and could use it to bid on UDFA, that’s more work and would understand not wanting to do that. I personally wouldn’t mind 5 rounds instead of 6 then doing that. But just tossing another opinion in.

I agree with jlukes that maybe a happy medium would be doing the UDFA but not including it in the official results

Bobby Brown brigs power and athleticism to the Viking's defensive front. One of the youngest players in the draft, Brown is more of a developmental player who has some potential to become a very good tackle.

Overall, the our front office all agreed we needed to improve the OL and DL and we accomplished what we set out to do. The OL picks made were for versatile and athletic players, and I think we got real value with D'Ante Smith in the 4th Round. Adding a high ceiling WR in Simi Fehoku in the 4th was a bonus. We were also able to address the defensive backfield with Sterns and Brown.

Below is the 2021 Draft Class of the Minnesota Vikings:

1st- (11) Alijah Vera- Tucker- OT/ OG
3rd (78) Baron Browning- ILB
3rd (90) Caden Sterns- S
4th (119) Dayo Odeyingbo- DE
4th (125) Simi Fehoko- WR
4th (134) DE'Ante Smith- OT
4th (143) Tre Brown- CB
5th (157) Robert Hainsey- OG
5th (168) Kahlil Herbert- RB
6th (199) Bobby Brown- DT

Thank you Matt for your efforts. Much appreciated!

In comment 15217449 johnnyb said:

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Bobby Brown brigs power and athleticism to the Viking's defensive front. One of the youngest players in the draft, Brown is more of a developmental player who has some potential to become a very good tackle. Overall, the our front office all agreed we needed to improve the OL and DL and we accomplished what we set out to do. The OL picks made were for versatile and athletic players, and I think we got real value with D'Ante Smith in the 4th Round. Adding a high ceiling WR in Simi Fehoku in the 4th was a bonus. We were also able to address the defensive backfield with Sterns and Brown. Below is the 2021 Draft Class of the Minnesota Vikings: 1st- (11) Alijah Vera- Tucker- OT/ OG 3rd (78) Baron Browning- ILB 3rd (90) Caden Sterns- S 4th (119) Dayo Odeyingbo- DE 4th (125) Simi Fehoko- WR 4th (134) DE'Ante Smith- OT 4th (143) Tre Brown- CB 5th (157) Robert Hainsey- OG 5th (168) Kahlil Herbert- RB 6th (199) Bobby Brown- DT Thank you Matt for your efforts. Much appreciated!

Pick again. Brown was already selected.

...either Darius Stills or T.J. Slaton makes sense as a replacement for Bobby Brown, who was already taken by ATL at #183.

Bobby Brown has already been selected by NoGainDayne in the 5th round. You are still on the clock.

In comment 15217428 NoGainDayne said:

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in terms of the # of rounds. I think given the cap what might me the most “realistic” is if we each had a budget of say 100 and could use it to bid on UDFA, that’s more work and would understand not wanting to do that. I personally wouldn’t mind 5 rounds instead of 6 then doing that. But just tossing another opinion in. I agree with jlukes that maybe a happy medium would be doing the UDFA but not including it in the official results

I like having UDFA on the spreadsheet because I look at it for names during the draft. Or maybe just do a second sheet in Google Docs with UDFA only so those that don't want to see it don't have to.

I re- picked- TE Ben Mason of Michigan.

In comment 15217407 Matt G said:

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In comment 15217381 Chris in Philly said: Quote: As mentioned earlier, we expanded last year during the draft at the request of several GMs to keep going. In fact, this is the same approach we used when expanding from 4RDs to 5RDs and from 5RDs to 6RDs. IMO, 6RDs has always been the sweet spot. We've been there for about 7-8 years and my vote would have been to stay there last year. That being said, I wanted to be flexible given the number of requests we had received and the fact that we were all a bit stir crazy from the pandemic. The UDFA process was always meant to be a fun exercise in getting deep sleepers to the table without keeping the clock going and me having to send out reminder emails for several more days when in reality there isn't a ton of overlap with people's respective boards this far into the draft. Plus, one could argue it more closely resembles the actual UDFA process. If more GMs prefer to kill it, I'm happy to do so.

Like I said, I don't care either way. I am happy to go with the flow. I'm just trying to think of how it impacts everyone. I'm like the Lorax. I speak for the trees. And Kevin...

I knew I must come out of this draft with a running back. Behind Saquon the depth is not too good. Heck, Barkley himself is a question mark with his return from major injury. Need was very high, and 6th round to me is where I was going to find the best value. Rountree was one of top producing backs in the country. He’s going to be good player to have behind Saquon and Booker.

He hasn't been on the site since Saturday.

Next on the list is a WR/RS. Does that make sense for the Titans?

In comment 15217661 MadPlaid said:

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He hasn't been on the site since Saturday. Next on the list is a WR/RS. Does that make sense for the Titans?

About to go into a meeting, but at this point I see no reason to ignore BPA for any club unless it is a position they addressed multiple times over or a position a team won't likely draft more than one of (such as QB)

I issued the call out thread/bat signal. Hopefully he sees it.

Emailed Tommy multiple times

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saw your post on the call out thread. No worries. I'm glad Jints had your number to text you. Really appreciate the assist.

Safe travels.

Not that it really matters.

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Great job GM’s.

but looked healthy at his pro-day running a 4.36 40.

The cousin of Darrel Revis can learn from another one of the best in Jalen Ramsay

1.27 - Zaven Collins, OLB, Tulsa
2.58 - Quinn Meinerz, C, Wisconsin-Whitewater
3.104 - Davis Mills, QB, Stanford
4.131 - Jamar Johnson, S, Indiana
5.171 - Tommy Doyle, OT, Miami (Ohio)
5.184 - Dez Fitzpatrick, WR, Louisville
6.210 - Patrick Johnson, EDGE, Tulane

Overall I am very happy with how my draft came out even if it may not have been the wisest option to draft Davis Mills at 104 and instead gone for his teammate Simi Fehoko. I just thought that Mills was too far and away BPA to ignore. I have said it elsewhere, but the Ravens are going to be in an awkward positon when Lamar Jackson's contract expires. He is a great regular season QB, but if he can't develop when he is in the pocket I am not sure he is the QB who can win you a Super Bowl. Added Zeitler in FA and now two more OL. Added two more EDGE dependers although if I am counting on Johnson to start I am in serious trouble. I like his upside but he is a special teamer/back-up as a rookie. Jamar Johnson is underrated as a S, but I really like what his coaches have to say about him and he always seems to be around the ball. Now looking at some UDFA's in case we decide to have some version of that this year.

this afternoon. Will get Cleveland's pick in here imminently.

Not a ton of holes on this team but their pass defense was atrocious last year. Didn't have Greedy Williams or Grant Delpit for the whole year however. Vernon is also gone and Tak McKinnley is penciled in to start on the opposite side of Garrett without much behind either of them. Both DTs are on the last year of their contracts and 30+ as well. Cleveland has really de-emphasized the LB position and has decided to role with 3 safeties in their base looks, which also went into some of my decision-making.

Draft Picks
1.26 Joe Tryon, Edge - Washington
2.59 Richie Grant, S - UCF
3.89 Ronnie Perkins, Edge - Oklahoma
3.91 Paulson Adebo, CB - Stanford
4.110 D'Wayne Eskridge, WR - Western Michigan
4.132 Marlon Tuipulotu, DL - USC
5.169 Jacob Harris, WR - UCF
6.211 Jaylon Moore, OL - Western Michigan

Overall I am pretty happy with this draft. I would have liked to add to the OL and WR sooner but really happy with these players. I actually ended up with a ton of opt-out guys so we'll see how it works out. I am really surprised Perkins lasted until the 3rd round and very happy to get Adebo at 91 as I considered taking him in round 2. Also wanted to get some deep speed in the receiving corps as Beckham can't be counted on to remain healthy and that isn't Landry or Higgins' game. Took a flier on Jacob Harris as a freak athlete and hopefully we can turn him into another outside threat.

185. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) (from Jax, Ten) - Charles Snowden, LB, Virginia
186. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Cole Van Lanen, OT/IOL, Wisconsin
187. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Elerson Smith, EDGE, Northern Illinois
188. New England (Sean) (from Hou) - Malik Herring, IDL/EDGE, Georgia
189. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) - Robert Jones, OT/IOL, Middle Tennessee
190. Cincinnati (Matt G) - John Bates, TE, Boise State
191. Denver (jlukes) - Jonathon Cooper, EDGE, Ohio State
192. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (from Det) - Chauncey Golston, EDGE, Iowa
193. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Drake Jackson, IOL, Kentucky
194. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - Jermar Jefferson, RB, Oregon State
195. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from NE, Dal) - Tyler Vaughns, WR, USC
196. New York Giants (MadPlaid) - Wyatt Hubert, EDGE, Kansas State
197. New England (Sean) - Evan McPherson, PK, Florida
198. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) - Josh Imatorbhebhe, WR, Illinois
199. Minnesota (johnnyb) - Ben Mason, FB/TE, Michigan
200. Las Vegas (Amtoft) - Tyree Gillespie, S, Missouri
201. New York Giants (MadPlaid) (from Ari) - Larry Rountree, RB, Missouri
202. Cincinnati (Matt G) (from Mia, Hou) - Jalen Camp, WR, Georgia Tech
203. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Was, LV, Mia) - Adetokunbo Ogundeji, EDGE, Notre Dame
204. Chicago (Anakim) - Derrick Barnes, LB, Purdue
205. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) - Dazz Newsome, WR/RS, North Carolina auto selection
206. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Sam Ehlinger, QB, Texas
207. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from Pit, Mia) - Ta'Quon Graham, IDL, Texas
208. Chicago (Anakim) (from Sea, Mia) - Victor Dimukeje, EDGE, Duke
209. LA Rams (JayBinQueens) - Mark Gilbert, CB, Duke
210. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Patrick Johnson, EDGE/LB, Tulane
211. Cleveland (Lionhart28) - Jaylon Moore, IOL/OT, Western Michigan
212. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from NO) - Devin Taylor, CB, Virginia Tech
213. Buffalo (Tom in Kzoo) - Austin Watkins, WR, UAB
214. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) - Tarron Jackson, EDGE, Coastal Carolina
215. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) (from KC) - Feleipe Franks, QB, Arkansas
216. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) (from TB) - Daelin Hayes, EDGE/LB, Notre Dame
217. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (comp) - On the clock
218. New Orleans (Doubledeuce22) (comp)
219. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (comp)
220. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (comp)
221. Chicago (Anakim) (comp)
222. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (comp)
223. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Min) (comp)
224. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (comp)
225. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (comp)
226. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from Car)
227. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (comp)
228. Chicago (Anakim) (comp)