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Matt G : 3/28/2021 7:18 pm
We will use this as a discussion thread to keep the picks thread uncluttered. These threads will be used for the duration of the draft.

Once a team is on the clock, they will have two hours to make a selection. If a team goes on the clock after 4pm, their two-hour window will roll over to the next day. For example, if you go on the clock at 4:30pm, you will have until 9:30 am to make a selection. Picks may be made between 6pm and 9am if GMs are online and following the draft thread. The time limit only applies during the 9am to 6pm timeframe. If the two-hour time limit expires, I will make a pick using any list that the GM for the team has sent me in advance (send lists to the email address in my profile) or in the absence of a list, I will use the GBN Big Board with a little discretion so as not make an obvious dumb pick (i.e. Kansas City won’t be taking a QB in the 1st round this year). If a GM misses two consecutive picks without providing a prospect list or making some form of contact with me (email or posting on the draft thread) the spot will be reassigned to one of the BBIers who have expressed an interest to fill the vacancy.

Please utilize the BBI Mock Draft Spreadsheet . The spreadsheet contains the draft order (RD1-7) by team and GM with a fairly comprehensive list of prospects based on the GBN Big Board (as well as several other prospects that did not make the GBN Big Board). I will try to keep the spreadsheet and thread updated as often as possible… Good luck!
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Denver is going to take someone from Alabama  
jlukes : 3/29/2021 1:03 pm : link
Some draft curveballs haven’t made this decision as easy as I thought it’d be
Atlanta and a TE???  
ChicagoGiant : 3/29/2021 1:09 pm : link
No way Atlanta takes Pitts over Sewell and odds are they go QB anyway. I could see them going Edge/DE before Pitts too
Took arguably the best player in the draft.  
jlukes : 3/29/2021 1:11 pm : link
Don’t like how Surtain matches up with smaller quick receivers like those in KC and OAK
oops  
Thegratefulhead : 3/29/2021 1:14 pm : link
made comment in selection thread. Sorry thought I was here. I can't see Dallas doing anything but Surtain after the 4.42
Jlukes took the guy I was targeting the most  
MadPlaid : 3/29/2021 1:23 pm : link
I know the Giants signed Golloday and Ross, but Smith, imho, is a certifiable game changer. You got to take those guys when they come along. The thought of Smith in the Giants O makes me moist.

Did I over share?
I don't think Pitts goes that high....  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 1:30 pm : link
However don't be surprised if Dallas takes him at 10 in front of us. BBI loses their minds, but he is very much a Jerry pick.
RE: oops  
Mike in NY : 3/29/2021 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15201607 Thegratefulhead said:
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made comment in selection thread. Sorry thought I was here. I can't see Dallas doing anything but Surtain after the 4.42


Don't worry, it happens every year. I could also see Rick looking at Slater or Jaycee Horn. Personally I have Surtain higher, but I can see how a team would prefer Horn.
What i would do if I'm Dallas...  
90.Cal : 3/29/2021 1:43 pm : link
Smith Slater Biadasz Martin Collins



But boy that defense is an injury away, from 2 injruy prone guys (Jaylon Smith and LVE) to having absolutely no one except for Demarcus Lawrence...
JLukes  
Lionhart28 : 3/29/2021 1:56 pm : link
You think Denver dips back into the WR with the resources already spent on pass catcher and current depth?

Jeudy (1.15 - 2020 draft)
Hamler (2.46 - 2020 draft)
Courtland Sutton (2018 2nd rounder)
Tim Patrick (who is a nice player)
Daesean Hamilton (2018 4th rounder)
As well as 2019 1st rounder Noah Fant at TE?

Seems like a lot of resources on pass catchers.
Dallas selects Patrick Surtain CB Alabama  
Rick in Dallas : 3/29/2021 2:02 pm : link
Jerry gets the CB the Cowboys covet in Surtain. He will team up with Diggs to give the Cowboys a young and talented CB pair. Also in FA the Cowboys have signed Damontae Kazee and Keanu Neal to bolster their weak safety position and reunite with their old coach DC Quinn.

This will be a defensive draft for the Cowboys sprinkled in with OL needs with 9 picks to go and 5 more in the first 4 rounds.
RE: JLukes  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 2:07 pm : link
In comment 15201670 Lionhart28 said:
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You think Denver dips back into the WR with the resources already spent on pass catcher and current depth?

Jeudy (1.15 - 2020 draft)
Hamler (2.46 - 2020 draft)
Courtland Sutton (2018 2nd rounder)
Tim Patrick (who is a nice player)
Daesean Hamilton (2018 4th rounder)
As well as 2019 1st rounder Noah Fant at TE?

Seems like a lot of resources on pass catchers.


Agree with this... can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened.
RE: Dallas selects Patrick Surtain CB Alabama  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15201679 Rick in Dallas said:
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Jerry gets the CB the Cowboys covet in Surtain. He will team up with Diggs to give the Cowboys a young and talented CB pair. Also in FA the Cowboys have signed Damontae Kazee and Keanu Neal to bolster their weak safety position and reunite with their old coach DC Quinn.

This will be a defensive draft for the Cowboys sprinkled in with OL needs with 9 picks to go and 5 more in the first 4 rounds.


Best CB in the draft... can't go wrong here.
I would  
Thegratefulhead : 3/29/2021 2:09 pm : link
Take Slater in this spot but I think the Giants run to the podium for Waddle. Fastest GPS of any receiver in college football. Had he not been injured Smith's production would likely be Waddle's. He is a more polished Tyreek Hill. I would not be upset with that pick.
Waddle  
Thegratefulhead : 3/29/2021 2:11 pm : link
more explosive than OBJ and he would not be running to the locker room for IV's before the half ends. You will actually have to force him to the sidelines if injured.

Stark difference.
RE: I would  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15201684 Thegratefulhead said:
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Take Slater in this spot but I think the Giants run to the podium for Waddle. Fastest GPS of any receiver in college football. Had he not been injured Smith's production would likely be Waddle's. He is a more polished Tyreek Hill. I would not be upset with that pick.


Waddle... Slater... MadPlaid gets off easy with this one, but the pressure will be on next pick.
What happened  
Thegratefulhead : 3/29/2021 2:13 pm : link
To Andy in Halifax?
RE: JLukes  
jlukes : 3/29/2021 2:15 pm : link
In comment 15201670 Lionhart28 said:
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You think Denver dips back into the WR with the resources already spent on pass catcher and current depth?

Jeudy (1.15 - 2020 draft)
Hamler (2.46 - 2020 draft)
Courtland Sutton (2018 2nd rounder)
Tim Patrick (who is a nice player)
Daesean Hamilton (2018 4th rounder)
As well as 2019 1st rounder Noah Fant at TE?

Seems like a lot of resources on pass catchers.


Came down to Smith being the player in this draft. He’s better than everyone on that list. Just like signing Golladay shouldn’t prevent the Giants from drafting Smith or Waddle. You can never have enough playmakers.

Give Drew Lock everything he needs to either succeed, or show Denver they need to move on.
Andy is fine but dealing with keeping his business healthy  
Rick in Dallas : 3/29/2021 2:15 pm : link
during the pandemic. Hopefully he returns as Giants GM next year.
lots of pressure on the  
SirYesSir : 3/29/2021 2:22 pm : link
new giants gm
RE: I would  
Mike in NY : 3/29/2021 2:23 pm : link
In comment 15201684 Thegratefulhead said:
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Take Slater in this spot but I think the Giants run to the podium for Waddle. Fastest GPS of any receiver in college football. Had he not been injured Smith's production would likely be Waddle's. He is a more polished Tyreek Hill. I would not be upset with that pick.


I would probably go Slater, but that is because of Waddle's durability concerns. If he is not durable enough to match up against physical CB's on the outside can you really spend the 11th overall pick on a slot guy? In real life if Pitts, Chase, and Smith are gone I think the Giants need to seriously consider trading down.
RE: RE: I would  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15201711 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15201684 Thegratefulhead said:


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Take Slater in this spot but I think the Giants run to the podium for Waddle. Fastest GPS of any receiver in college football. Had he not been injured Smith's production would likely be Waddle's. He is a more polished Tyreek Hill. I would not be upset with that pick.



I would probably go Slater, but that is because of Waddle's durability concerns. If he is not durable enough to match up against physical CB's on the outside can you really spend the 11th overall pick on a slot guy? In real life if Pitts, Chase, and Smith are gone I think the Giants need to seriously consider trading down.


Waddle is an outside guy... He is an easy pick here, but so is Slater... Can play OG and RT... tough choice here, but can't go wrong.
BAM!!! love Slater to the Giants  
Rick in Dallas : 3/29/2021 2:30 pm : link
plug in and play OG immediately and versatile enough to play RT.
Andy's... I mean Madplaid  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 2:31 pm : link
pick is in... Honestly it would be extremely hard to pass on Waddle. Talk about fixing the WR position in one offseason, however Slater is a bigger need now IMO. There should be good WRs available at next pick also. As I said couldn't go wrong with this one.
RE: RE: JLukes  
Lionhart28 : 3/29/2021 2:31 pm : link
In comment 15201695 jlukes said:
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In comment 15201670 Lionhart28 said:


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You think Denver dips back into the WR with the resources already spent on pass catcher and current depth?

Jeudy (1.15 - 2020 draft)
Hamler (2.46 - 2020 draft)
Courtland Sutton (2018 2nd rounder)
Tim Patrick (who is a nice player)
Daesean Hamilton (2018 4th rounder)
As well as 2019 1st rounder Noah Fant at TE?

Seems like a lot of resources on pass catchers.



Came down to Smith being the player in this draft. He’s better than everyone on that list. Just like signing Golladay shouldn’t prevent the Giants from drafting Smith or Waddle. You can never have enough playmakers.

Give Drew Lock everything he needs to either succeed, or show Denver they need to move on.


Thanks, I figured that was your rationale. I don't disagree that Smith is better but I would argue if you need 3 1st round picks and 2 2nds as pass catchers to be successful, you probably have your answer as to whether Lock is your guy. I do think this highlights Denver being in sort of a weird spot in the draft. I haven't dug into their team needs too much but the value is likely to be at a position where they already have some depth. T
love the pick  
Chip : 3/29/2021 2:34 pm : link
with what is left on the board. Is waddle going to work out and prove he is healthy? I don't get why Smith and Waddle have not worked out or are they working out tomorrow.
RE: RE: RE: JLukes  
Mike in NY : 3/29/2021 2:34 pm : link
In comment 15201740 Lionhart28 said:
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In comment 15201695 jlukes said:


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In comment 15201670 Lionhart28 said:


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You think Denver dips back into the WR with the resources already spent on pass catcher and current depth?

Jeudy (1.15 - 2020 draft)
Hamler (2.46 - 2020 draft)
Courtland Sutton (2018 2nd rounder)
Tim Patrick (who is a nice player)
Daesean Hamilton (2018 4th rounder)
As well as 2019 1st rounder Noah Fant at TE?

Seems like a lot of resources on pass catchers.



Came down to Smith being the player in this draft. He’s better than everyone on that list. Just like signing Golladay shouldn’t prevent the Giants from drafting Smith or Waddle. You can never have enough playmakers.

Give Drew Lock everything he needs to either succeed, or show Denver they need to move on.



Thanks, I figured that was your rationale. I don't disagree that Smith is better but I would argue if you need 3 1st round picks and 2 2nds as pass catchers to be successful, you probably have your answer as to whether Lock is your guy. I do think this highlights Denver being in sort of a weird spot in the draft. I haven't dug into their team needs too much but the value is likely to be at a position where they already have some depth. T


If the Top 8 went how this Mock did in real life I could see Chicago, New England, and Washington trying to trade up to get Mac Jones. I could also see Denver drafing Jones and moving on from Lock. Trading back they can land an EDGE or add another CB to match up against their opponents in AFC West. Even though they signed Fuller it was a 1 year deal.
our new giants gm hates fun...  
SirYesSir : 3/29/2021 2:40 pm : link
I understand the desire to improve the OL, just not a fan of drafting someone that high to play guard (with the other talent on the board).

If you're drafting him as a tackle, I think I prefer Darrisaw, but either way there looks to be some really good O-Line options in round 2.

Not angry about the pick if this happens, but not the way I would go...
agreed with those who say you can't  
KDavies : 3/29/2021 2:42 pm : link
go wrong with Slater or Waddle in this scenario. If you go Waddle, get an IOL in the 2nd or 3rd. If you go Slater, get a WR in the 2nd or 3rd.

My strong preference is offense, whether it be Smith, Waddle, Pitts, or Slater
Cartwheels  
Thegratefulhead : 3/29/2021 2:43 pm : link
If we draft this guy. He can play ANYWHERE on the line. I am not afraid of his arms in the tiniest bit.
RE: What happened  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/29/2021 2:45 pm : link
In comment 15201689 Thegratefulhead said:
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To Andy in Halifax?


He has PSTD from all the previous draft beatings.
I mean I really like  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 2:45 pm : link
Waddle, but there is a lot WRs that should make round 2. It is tough to pass on him though. I will say the fact Slater can play OG and RT on a high level is kind of big. You go Waddle and you aren't getting an OG/RT nearly as good as WR... Still though pass on Waddle? That would be hard for me to do.
Sorry, I meant to provide my commentary sooner  
MadPlaid : 3/29/2021 2:51 pm : link
But I am at work (remotely from home). Job has to come first.

With that said, this is a dream come true. Every Madden playing Giants fan goal is to pretend to be in charge of BigBlue. I have been looking forward to this moment for a long time, and I hope I don't disappoint. At least most of you.

I agree with those who say you win in the trenches. When the Giants OL was good, they won. When it wasn't, you get the picture. Rashawn Slater is a great add to the Giants line. I like his athleticism and versatility. He can be added almost anywhere on the line and just make it meaner and better. I feel this would have been the pick Andy would have gone with.

I was tempted to go with a play maker here like a Parsons, Smith or Surtain, but all those guys went before I had a chance to consider them. Waddle would have been interesting, but I just thought Slater was the smarter albite less sexy pick.

Okay, let me have it.
RE: RE: Just picked 6th for the Fish  
Optimus-NY : 3/29/2021 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15201464 KDavies said:
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In comment 15201460 Optimus-NY said:


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Easy selection of Ja'Marr Chase. They needed a WR and he was the best player on the board. Bingo. Gonna pick 28th for the Fish, so gotta prepare for that selection too.



Dolphins pick 18th. Agreed a WR/Pitts is the easy selection here.


It was a typo. I know I pick 18th mongo! lol
RE: Sorry, I meant to provide my commentary sooner  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15201793 MadPlaid said:
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But I am at work (remotely from home). Job has to come first.

With that said, this is a dream come true. Every Madden playing Giants fan goal is to pretend to be in charge of BigBlue. I have been looking forward to this moment for a long time, and I hope I don't disappoint. At least most of you.

I agree with those who say you win in the trenches. When the Giants OL was good, they won. When it wasn't, you get the picture. Rashawn Slater is a great add to the Giants line. I like his athleticism and versatility. He can be added almost anywhere on the line and just make it meaner and better. I feel this would have been the pick Andy would have gone with.

I was tempted to go with a play maker here like a Parsons, Smith or Surtain, but all those guys went before I had a chance to consider them. Waddle would have been interesting, but I just thought Slater was the smarter albite less sexy pick.

Okay, let me have it.


I mean it was a good pick... even though it says a lot about you... You aint SEXY!
Amtoft  
MadPlaid : 3/29/2021 2:55 pm : link
That's not what you told me last night, honey
RE: Sorry, I meant to provide my commentary sooner  
cjac : 3/29/2021 2:56 pm : link
In comment 15201793 MadPlaid said:
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But I am at work (remotely from home). Job has to come first.

With that said, this is a dream come true. Every Madden playing Giants fan goal is to pretend to be in charge of BigBlue. I have been looking forward to this moment for a long time, and I hope I don't disappoint. At least most of you.

I agree with those who say you win in the trenches. When the Giants OL was good, they won. When it wasn't, you get the picture. Rashawn Slater is a great add to the Giants line. I like his athleticism and versatility. He can be added almost anywhere on the line and just make it meaner and better. I feel this would have been the pick Andy would have gone with.

I was tempted to go with a play maker here like a Parsons, Smith or Surtain, but all those guys went before I had a chance to consider them. Waddle would have been interesting, but I just thought Slater was the smarter albite less sexy pick.

Okay, let me have it.


I know that with all they're doing in FA the best place to add talent right now, the most needed place, is on the OL. I just feel like they are going to pick the BPA here no matter the position and there are going to be a lot of players ranked higher than Slater at 11.

I think they can go OL in round 2 or 3 and get a nice value.
RE: RE: Sorry, I meant to provide my commentary sooner  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 2:58 pm : link
In comment 15201804 cjac said:
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In comment 15201793 MadPlaid said:


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But I am at work (remotely from home). Job has to come first.

With that said, this is a dream come true. Every Madden playing Giants fan goal is to pretend to be in charge of BigBlue. I have been looking forward to this moment for a long time, and I hope I don't disappoint. At least most of you.

I agree with those who say you win in the trenches. When the Giants OL was good, they won. When it wasn't, you get the picture. Rashawn Slater is a great add to the Giants line. I like his athleticism and versatility. He can be added almost anywhere on the line and just make it meaner and better. I feel this would have been the pick Andy would have gone with.

I was tempted to go with a play maker here like a Parsons, Smith or Surtain, but all those guys went before I had a chance to consider them. Waddle would have been interesting, but I just thought Slater was the smarter albite less sexy pick.

Okay, let me have it.



I know that with all they're doing in FA the best place to add talent right now, the most needed place, is on the OL. I just feel like they are going to pick the BPA here no matter the position and there are going to be a lot of players ranked higher than Slater at 11.

I think they can go OL in round 2 or 3 and get a nice value.


Who is ranked higher? Waddle probably, but who else?
If it came down to those 2  
Ron Johnson : 3/29/2021 3:00 pm : link
Nick Saban's opinion means everything. In other words I think it would be Waddle.
Eagles are on the (stopped) clock. CiP hasn’t posted in a week.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/29/2021 3:01 pm : link
Anyone seen the man? Chargers are ready to follow him.
RE: Eagles are on the (stopped) clock. CiP hasn’t posted in a week.  
Mike in NY : 3/29/2021 3:02 pm : link
In comment 15201814 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Anyone seen the man? Chargers are ready to follow him.


His last activity was at 2:23 PM today
cjac  
MadPlaid : 3/29/2021 3:03 pm : link
I agree if a play maker is higher ranked than Slater, that's where they should go. I just didn't see anyone who I rated higher being there. Waddle was to me rated on the same plain as Slater, so I went with the one who was a higher need.

I did start reading good things about an edge rusher from Georgia, but he seemed the kind of pick you target with a trade down. Unfortunately, if the Giants are going to trade down, it isn't happening until draft day, if at all.
RE: Eagles are on the (stopped) clock. CiP hasn’t posted in a week.  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15201814 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Anyone seen the man? Chargers are ready to follow him.


Let's see if the Chargers blow this pick like they did last year in the BBI mock draft!
Amtoft: I am almost certain to blow the pick.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/29/2021 3:09 pm : link
If it comes down to reaching for an offensive lineman or drafting a CB based on traits, there will be something to hate about the pick no matter what we do.
RE: Amtoft: I am almost certain to blow the pick.  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 3:11 pm : link
In comment 15201840 Big Blue Blogger said:
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If it comes down to reaching for an offensive lineman or drafting a CB based on traits, there will be something to hate about the pick no matter what we do.


Just teasing as you should have to take a QB here. Just giving you a bad time about Justin Herbert.
Giants with a remote thrower pick  
Bill L : 3/29/2021 3:15 pm : link
and vomit on the living room floor
RE: Giants with a remote thrower pick  
Amtoft : 3/29/2021 3:16 pm : link
In comment 15201851 Bill L said:
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and vomit on the living room floor


taking the second best OL in the draft? Come on bro.
Too high for a guard  
Bill L : 3/29/2021 3:18 pm : link
and I believe the need is overplayed. And, if it's a need pick, then WR is a bigger need. If you don't like Waddle (which I disagree with) then I realize that you're constrained by not be able to move down so what can you do.
To be fair, Chris has a tough decision here.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/29/2021 3:28 pm : link
There a lot of good Jaylen Waddle GIFs to choose from. 🙄
Wow...  
BamaBlue : 3/29/2021 3:28 pm : link
this mock draft is very realistic. I'm disgusted with the Giants #1 pick, just like every time the past 7 years!
Amtoft: Take it up with the previous LAC GM.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/29/2021 3:37 pm : link
But he’s probably catching up on his sleep after a 2am feeding and a 5am diaper change.
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