And asked people what the Mets should extend Lindor for, you knew an extension would be coming soon. Good for him and good for the team for removing a potential distraction
Ive said it all along, it will be announced Tuesday/Wednesday so Lindor can have his own media day/be the headline, etc with no games going.
From your mouth to Gods ear - and my credit card waiting to get an OFFICIAL Lindor in blue with the 41 patch on it as soon as its announced. (not yet available far as I can tell)
While no deal was struck at the Palm Beach dinner Saturday night, the Mets and Lindor clarified their positions and there’s still some hope something could get done in the 3 days before Opening Day
“Some hope” isn’t as optimistic as I would have hoped..
Help me understand the Lux Tax loophole where the Deal gets done this week, but isn't signed / announced until after the Season actually starts.
Explain it like I'm a 5 year old...heh-heh.
Long story short if his extension is signed for the 2022 and beyond seasons then his 30-35 (whatever it might be) lux tax number will be that number for the entirety of his contract. Backloading contracts etc has no impact on the luxury tax. If Lindor’s new deal is tacked onto his 2021 and begins in 2022 then his 2021 cost is 22 and his 2022 and beyond cost is his 30+ number
Help me understand the Lux Tax loophole where the Deal gets done this week, but isn't signed / announced until after the Season actually starts.
Explain it like I'm a 5 year old...heh-heh.
Long story short if his extension is signed for the 2022 and beyond seasons then his 30-35 (whatever it might be) lux tax number will be that number for the entirety of his contract. Backloading contracts etc has no impact on the luxury tax. If Lindor’s new deal is tacked onto his 2021 and begins in 2022 then his 2021 cost is 22 and his 2022 and beyond cost is his 30+ number
OK. I wonder if Lindor is willing to play this year for 22 Mill ? Next year's FA Shortstop crop is going to set new salary benchmarks.
RE: I have been fine with no Realmuto, Springer and Bauer
Feel the same way. Also heard MLB is going to try to clamp down on pitchers and foreign substances on balls. Would be interesting if Bauer gets busted and has a "down" year. It'll be cool (and I wouldn't doubt) if Walker has a comparable year; for a fraction of the $.
RE: RE: I have been fine with no Realmuto, Springer and Bauer
Feel the same way. Also heard MLB is going to try to clamp down on pitchers and foreign substances on balls. Would be interesting if Bauer gets busted and has a "down" year. It'll be cool (and I wouldn't doubt) if Walker has a comparable year; for a fraction of the $.
I watched a little of Bauer's game the other night....he is a mouthy bastid out on the mound. Shouting and waving his arms, and gesturing wildly at batters.
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Well , we have a deadline Mar 31 ,today is the 29th. It either will or won’t in the next two days.
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The Mets have offered more than $300 million in extension talks with Francisco Lindor, but the two sides are not on the verge of a deal
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The Mets have offered more than $300 million in extension talks with Francisco Lindor, but the two sides are not on the verge of a deal
Yah, I read that. Sounds pretty grim on getting a deal done. Was hoping I could wait until at least September to say "wait til next year" LOL
Might just be an issue with structure vs total value
news, I know I've advocated trading him, and I still would in the right trade, but outside of David Wright, Pete Alonso might be the best human being to ever wear a Mets uniform.
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Mets first baseman Pete Alonso is joining the sports - NFT craze by auctioning off his own NFT, with proceeds supporting minor leaguers affected by the pandemic
“To be able to raise funds and help out guys that need it ... I'm very thankful."
and Dom both seem like really, really good people. Lindor recently donated 1 million towards a new building at his former school. They overall seem to have a very strong group of people on the roster. I'm sure they have their share of dickheads (not that I care) but it seems on the surface to be a very strong overall group of humans.
for each of of Lindor, Conforto and Noah or at least 2/3. Seems like Lindor is likely to happen but any buzz on the other two?
Per Heyman "no traction" with Conforto and Syndergaard they only discussed if he's open to negotiating not actual talks.
Syndergaard is super tough to expect anything before he proves himself or Mets see what they have. Mets of course would love to get him for a discount but he's not going to give up the chance at a huge payday that would come if he comes back strong this year...
Conforto worries me. I know the Mets don't really have a choice after they made the Lindor deal, but if you're Conforto you see all the attention and the $325M deal being offered to the shiny new toy, when Conforto is the one who has busted his butt through thick and thin..
Hopefully they give him his 8-10 year deal at $27-28M per and he's happy to lock it down, but I wouldn't expect a hometown discount at this point...
Mets offer is 10 year 325 million - Not sure why that number doesn't get it done but it should land on Lindor not Cohen if true and he wont sign.
If that's the number my guess is maybe it's now about opt outs, deferred money, and those details, I'd be surprised if Lindor was holding out for more $$$.
Mets offer is 10 year 325 million - Not sure why that number doesn't get it done but it should land on Lindor not Cohen if true and he wont sign.
If that's the number my guess is maybe it's now about opt outs, deferred money, and those details, I'd be surprised if Lindor was holding out for more $$$.
Unless the leak is coming from the Cohen camp and he's trying to save face knowing there wont be a deal
if it's not, it's easy for either side to publicly refute.
if it's not and Cohen was just leaking it, wouldn't it look worse for him, not better?
Since it would be the 5th largest contract in MLB history - Lindor would look a little like the villain if he doesn't sign it. I get the devils in the details but c'mon.
And I would probably change my jersey choice to Black official with the 41 patch
Well, there ARE clues lol
But I do know for 100% fact who leaked the “over $300mm” number last week...
There is absolutely no reason to sweat this. None whatsoever.
10 years for 325 million is a outstanding offer.
I am in the side of letting him play the year out and seeing what is out there in free Agency.
Is any willing to pony up 12 years really?
Not sure what he could do during the season to make me want to pay more? Plus we want to keep conforto/Syndergaard. Other teams would have to bud that high plus give up draft compensation. Plus there are alternatives at the position. His value is never going to be higher than now. And if he has an MVP season, god bless him, you can throw a little more money at him.
Tough spot..makes you wish they got Conforto extended before the Lindor trade.
Honestly I'd prefer they lock up Conforto and Thor, give Lindor the 1 year audition on the big stage... then go next offseason and lock up Lindor or if that falls through then there are a few other superstar shortstops on the market as well...
For the life of me I will never understand baseball fans who are pro billionaire owner over the player? Who cares what the player gets a little more money? There is no salary cap and this owner has pieces of art he’s paid more for.
But sure be happy that Sandy didn’t “overpay” while the players does well on another team.
If you're not going to pay Lindor, who would you pay?
He doesn't have anything to prove to anyone. This is on the Mets. You traded for him, you bite the bullet. Getting sticker shock now makes you look like complete clowns.
and when you have to extend players of the caliber of Lindor, conforto and Thor all around the same time then it does matter what you pay the guys. Fans also dont want to be told the team cant sign someone in 2031 because they are paying a 39 year old lindor 35 million (maybe this is a holdover from the wilpon era, but still). So i dont think its that fans are pro cohen, they just dont want to overpay and it hurt in other areas. What if at 10/300 for Lindor they will happily then go and sign thor to a 5/140 (just making this up), but at 10/375 they are only able to offer thor 4/90 because they need money for conforto. I mean that is not completely unrealistic.
Now in this case its more about the years for Lindor so that makes it a bit less of an issue now since the AAV is actually a bit lower. No team is going to have an infinite salary no matter how many pieces of art work the owner has, so it does matter that the team gets a solid deal on a player. I dont want Cohen to "win" the deal, i want the Mets to get a fair deal for both them and Lindor.
both sides are just negotiating through the media in the final couple days before the season. They are in the same ballpark on AAV, i highly doubt either side walks away over a 2 years and 60 mill difference. If your Lindor you are making a MASSIVE bet on yourself. Im sure they will land with either something like 11 or 12 years at 350.
Not holding my breath though.
I’ll take the latter all day long.
From your mouth to Gods ear - and my credit card waiting to get an OFFICIAL Lindor in blue with the 41 patch on it as soon as its announced. (not yet available far as I can tell)
While no deal was struck at the Palm Beach dinner Saturday night, the Mets and Lindor clarified their positions and there’s still some hope something could get done in the 3 days before Opening Day
“Some hope” isn’t as optimistic as I would have hoped..
Help me understand the Lux Tax loophole where the Deal gets done this week, but isn't signed / announced until after the Season actually starts.
Explain it like I'm a 5 year old...heh-heh.
Help me understand the Lux Tax loophole where the Deal gets done this week, but isn't signed / announced until after the Season actually starts.
Explain it like I'm a 5 year old...heh-heh.
Long story short if his extension is signed for the 2022 and beyond seasons then his 30-35 (whatever it might be) lux tax number will be that number for the entirety of his contract. Backloading contracts etc has no impact on the luxury tax. If Lindor’s new deal is tacked onto his 2021 and begins in 2022 then his 2021 cost is 22 and his 2022 and beyond cost is his 30+ number
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Help me understand the Lux Tax loophole where the Deal gets done this week, but isn't signed / announced until after the Season actually starts.
Explain it like I'm a 5 year old...heh-heh.
Long story short if his extension is signed for the 2022 and beyond seasons then his 30-35 (whatever it might be) lux tax number will be that number for the entirety of his contract. Backloading contracts etc has no impact on the luxury tax. If Lindor’s new deal is tacked onto his 2021 and begins in 2022 then his 2021 cost is 22 and his 2022 and beyond cost is his 30+ number
OK. I wonder if Lindor is willing to play this year for 22 Mill ? Next year's FA Shortstop crop is going to set new salary benchmarks.
I’ll take the latter all day long.
Feel the same way. Also heard MLB is going to try to clamp down on pitchers and foreign substances on balls. Would be interesting if Bauer gets busted and has a "down" year. It'll be cool (and I wouldn't doubt) if Walker has a comparable year; for a fraction of the $.
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as long as we lock up Lindor, Conforto and Thor.
I’ll take the latter all day long.
Feel the same way. Also heard MLB is going to try to clamp down on pitchers and foreign substances on balls. Would be interesting if Bauer gets busted and has a "down" year. It'll be cool (and I wouldn't doubt) if Walker has a comparable year; for a fraction of the $.
I watched a little of Bauer's game the other night....he is a mouthy bastid out on the mound. Shouting and waving his arms, and gesturing wildly at batters.
That act would get old, IMO.
It's very, very odd. He's been terrible and has an option left. Montgomery is nothing special but that was a strange move.
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Well , we have a deadline Mar 31 ,today is the 29th. It either will or won’t in the next two days.
Per Heyman "no traction" with Conforto and Syndergaard they only discussed if he's open to negotiating not actual talks.
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The Mets have offered more than $300 million in extension talks with Francisco Lindor, but the two sides are not on the verge of a deal
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The Mets have offered more than $300 million in extension talks with Francisco Lindor, but the two sides are not on the verge of a deal
Yah, I read that. Sounds pretty grim on getting a deal done. Was hoping I could wait until at least September to say "wait til next year" LOL
I can't find a situation in my head where cohen doesn't look bad for making this deal and then not paying the expected contract.
Failing to sign Lindor would be a disaster, crowd source "fun" on twitter or not.
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Mets first baseman Pete Alonso is joining the sports - NFT craze by auctioning off his own NFT, with proceeds supporting minor leaguers affected by the pandemic
“To be able to raise funds and help out guys that need it ... I'm very thankful."
Unless of course they cut in mid-interview with breaking news that Lindor signed the extension!
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(Plus an update on where Mickey Callaway investigation stands).
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for each of of Lindor, Conforto and Noah or at least 2/3. Seems like Lindor is likely to happen but any buzz on the other two?
Per Heyman "no traction" with Conforto and Syndergaard they only discussed if he's open to negotiating not actual talks.
Syndergaard is super tough to expect anything before he proves himself or Mets see what they have. Mets of course would love to get him for a discount but he's not going to give up the chance at a huge payday that would come if he comes back strong this year...
Conforto worries me. I know the Mets don't really have a choice after they made the Lindor deal, but if you're Conforto you see all the attention and the $325M deal being offered to the shiny new toy, when Conforto is the one who has busted his butt through thick and thin..
Hopefully they give him his 8-10 year deal at $27-28M per and he's happy to lock it down, but I wouldn't expect a hometown discount at this point...
Now Heyman and Martino confirming
If that's the number my guess is maybe it's now about opt outs, deferred money, and those details, I'd be surprised if Lindor was holding out for more $$$.
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Mets offer is 10 year 325 million - Not sure why that number doesn't get it done but it should land on Lindor not Cohen if true and he wont sign.
If that's the number my guess is maybe it's now about opt outs, deferred money, and those details, I'd be surprised if Lindor was holding out for more $$$.
Unless the leak is coming from the Cohen camp and he's trying to save face knowing there wont be a deal
if it's not, it's easy for either side to publicly refute.
if it's not and Cohen was just leaking it, wouldn't it look worse for him, not better?
if it's not, it's easy for either side to publicly refute.
if it's not and Cohen was just leaking it, wouldn't it look worse for him, not better?
Since it would be the 5th largest contract in MLB history - Lindor would look a little like the villain if he doesn't sign it. I get the devils in the details but c'mon.
And I would probably change my jersey choice to Black official with the 41 patch
But I do know for 100% fact who leaked the “over $300mm” number last week...
There is absolutely no reason to sweat this. None whatsoever.
Sounds far apart to me. And I wouldn't blame Steve and Sandy a bit for not getting it done.
Time to sweat this one out.
I am in the side of letting him play the year out and seeing what is out there in free Agency.
Is any willing to pony up 12 years really?
Not like we can’t outbid teams in the offseason if he’s an FA.
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Source: Lindor has made the Mets a counteroffer, $385 million over 12 years.
That is a slightly lower average annual value but a longer term and significantly higher total financial commitment.
Lindor already has told the Mets no their “best and final” offer of $325M/10 years.
Tough spot..makes you wish they got Conforto extended before the Lindor trade.
Honestly I'd prefer they lock up Conforto and Thor, give Lindor the 1 year audition on the big stage... then go next offseason and lock up Lindor or if that falls through then there are a few other superstar shortstops on the market as well...
But sure be happy that Sandy didn’t “overpay” while the players does well on another team.
Now in this case its more about the years for Lindor so that makes it a bit less of an issue now since the AAV is actually a bit lower. No team is going to have an infinite salary no matter how many pieces of art work the owner has, so it does matter that the team gets a solid deal on a player. I dont want Cohen to "win" the deal, i want the Mets to get a fair deal for both them and Lindor.