at Lindor’s camp. $325M is already higher price than their analytics has for his projected production and they don’t want to go higher or meet in the middle.
It doesn’t sound good at the moment, but part of me thinks this is a lot of noise and we’re going to see an agreement for 10yrs/$335M tomorrow.
just read that. Lindor should cave, it would be to his own benefit. I'm not sure he'll get a better deal. Cohen is not a dumb business man, he knew he had the best offer when he first bought the Mets, but backed out when Jeffy made an unreasonable demand. It's a similar situation. The Wilpons lost about $250 million by backing out of the sale the first go-around. Hard to believe lindor will get anything better.
Cohen is insanely wealthy
It's not "my" money
etc...
If what's above is accurate, that's more than a fair offer. I am fine letting Lindor play for his contract this year. As a Met fan I pray neither of these happens, but if he gets hurt or has even a mediocre year, he has absolutely f'd himself.
just read that. Lindor should cave, it would be to his own benefit. I'm not sure he'll get a better deal. Cohen is not a dumb business man, he knew he had the best offer when he first bought the Mets, but backed out when Jeffy made an unreasonable demand. It's a similar situation. The Wilpons lost about $250 million by backing out of the sale the first go-around. Hard to believe lindor will get anything better.
If there’s one thing we know about Cohen, he’s not going to go through with a deal if he thinks it’s bad, even if he emotionally wants something. He was willing to walk away from the Mets when the Wilpons were screwing around.
about not saying when a shit load of money is "enough" money for someone else.
But when you reject a non-deferred $325M offer while making $21M the current year not even being counted in the $325M (which would make your career earnings over $50M) because you want $60M more. You deserve to rot in hell.
and you really don't want to be where you currently are, the talk about culture is bullshit the talk about it not being just about money is bullshit, it's only about money.
doesn't sign, F him. Move on to the next guy. More than fair contract offer.
It seems that this is where we are - and it's the Lindor camp that has a take it or leave it offer on the table where Cohen has moved twice and thought (at dinner) they had a deal.
Far as I'm concerned let him play out his contract - Time to buckle up the horses and GET TO IT starting tomorrow.
Extension or not I'm psyched for tomorrow and how the Mets will handle this season!
Cohen is smarter than any agent when it comes to understanding time value of money (and the fans, press who keep bringing up Bonilla like idiots every year)... All the players seem to want is bragging rights on biggest $$ contract..
At this point maybe he just goes to Lindor with a higher value with significantly deferrals, but at a lower NPV than the current dea and Lindor can just regret it in 15 years.. haha
Makes me sad it won't be a full stadium for the home opener, would be nice for the faithful to let him know how they feel..especially if he has a rough debut..
Technically the deal is 347 million over 11 years with no deferrals In Mets money since its tacked on starting next year.
I still stand that he knew he would sign the entire time and they are just making the Mets sweat until the last second to get as much as they can.
If he doesn't sign that deal before the game tomorrow then so be it, but he would be a complete fool IMO.
I still say this is posturing.
Well - I hope you're right - but it seems more likely that either Lindor is getting some bad advice or he is not comfortable committing to the the Mets for 10 years.
Maybe it is both sides - but it sure doesn't seem that way at this point.
One has to wonder if he just doesn't want to play here, and his mind is made up on that.
I say that because I don't see any coherent reason to reject that deal. Even if he had an MVP season I'm not sure he'd get more than that on the open market, especially with other SS options in free agency next winter.
He is turning down a decade+ commitment of almost $350M. I can't see any reasonable explanation for that.
if he has a career year, great for mets. And guess what? there still may not be a better offer elsewhere.
if he has a middling season...whoops.
Cohen has proven he is willing to spend money. And even better is in the process of proving he's not just going to roll over to bid against himself.
That's really important...he can't let players view him as a pushover just because he is the richest owner...
I've always said, I didn't want the Mets to throw money around just for the sake, I just want them to be willing to spend. He is definitely willing to spend..
I'd rather lose Lindor than Conforto or Thor anyway.. #1 I have 0 emotional connection with Lindor #2 there will likely be other superstar SSs on the market..
It doesn’t sound good at the moment, but part of me thinks this is a lot of noise and we’re going to see an agreement for 10yrs/$335M tomorrow.
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Some interesting details on the Mets' original contract & follow-up one to Lindor. #Mets #LGM
It's not "my" money
etc...
If what's above is accurate, that's more than a fair offer. I am fine letting Lindor play for his contract this year. As a Met fan I pray neither of these happens, but if he gets hurt or has even a mediocre year, he has absolutely f'd himself.
If there’s one thing we know about Cohen, he’s not going to go through with a deal if he thinks it’s bad, even if he emotionally wants something. He was willing to walk away from the Mets when the Wilpons were screwing around.
But when you reject a non-deferred $325M offer while making $21M the current year not even being counted in the $325M (which would make your career earnings over $50M) because you want $60M more. You deserve to rot in hell.
and you really don't want to be where you currently are, the talk about culture is bullshit the talk about it not being just about money is bullshit, it's only about money.
It seems that this is where we are - and it's the Lindor camp that has a take it or leave it offer on the table where Cohen has moved twice and thought (at dinner) they had a deal.
Far as I'm concerned let him play out his contract - Time to buckle up the horses and GET TO IT starting tomorrow.
Extension or not I'm psyched for tomorrow and how the Mets will handle this season!
LFGM!
At this point maybe he just goes to Lindor with a higher value with significantly deferrals, but at a lower NPV than the current dea and Lindor can just regret it in 15 years.. haha
Makes me sad it won't be a full stadium for the home opener, would be nice for the faithful to let him know how they feel..especially if he has a rough debut..
I still stand that he knew he would sign the entire time and they are just making the Mets sweat until the last second to get as much as they can.
If he doesnt sign that deal before the game tomorrow then so be it, but he would be a complete fool IMO.
I still say this is posturing.
I still stand that he knew he would sign the entire time and they are just making the Mets sweat until the last second to get as much as they can.
If he doesn't sign that deal before the game tomorrow then so be it, but he would be a complete fool IMO.
I still say this is posturing.
Well - I hope you're right - but it seems more likely that either Lindor is getting some bad advice or he is not comfortable committing to the the Mets for 10 years.
Maybe it is both sides - but it sure doesn't seem that way at this point.
I say that because I don't see any coherent reason to reject that deal. Even if he had an MVP season I'm not sure he'd get more than that on the open market, especially with other SS options in free agency next winter.
He is turning down a decade+ commitment of almost $350M. I can't see any reasonable explanation for that.
That's when my love come tumbling down
I'm gonna wait 'til the midnight hour
When there's no one else around…
Midnight hour coming and is going.
if he has a middling season...whoops.
Cohen has proven he is willing to spend money. And even better is in the process of proving he's not just going to roll over to bid against himself.
if he has a middling season...whoops.
Cohen has proven he is willing to spend money. And even better is in the process of proving he's not just going to roll over to bid against himself.
That's really important...he can't let players view him as a pushover just because he is the richest owner...
I've always said, I didn't want the Mets to throw money around just for the sake, I just want them to be willing to spend. He is definitely willing to spend..
I'd rather lose Lindor than Conforto or Thor anyway.. #1 I have 0 emotional connection with Lindor #2 there will likely be other superstar SSs on the market..
Well my last post didn't age well...