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NFT: Best Godzilla film and best King Kong film

Producer : 3/31/2021 3:51 pm
With the release of Godzilla vs. King Kong I thought this would be fun. Lots to choose from.

I might be an old fuck but I still think the originals are the best. So best would be:

Godzilla - 1954

King Kong - 1933

I think they hold up.

But dark horse for me is:

Shin Godzilla - 2016 - a Japanese reboot of Godzilla. It's gritty and tense. And worth checking out even if you don't like these movies.

And an old cheesy favorite is Destroy All Monsters - 1968. Loved it as a kid.
Originals for both great  
Payasdaddy : 3/31/2021 3:54 pm : link
Loved destroy all monster
Original Godzilla with Raymond burr is pretty terrifying
Loved the music
Be watch Godzilla vs Kong tonight
Rooting for Godzilla but I dig this Kong. We know Kong is winning. Hope he doesn’t kill Godzilla
Gotta check out shin Godzilla. Heard it was good
Yeah. At 57 I am like a 12 yr old again , watching HBO max tonight
Wife enjoys enough to watch too
I will be watching this stuff if I make 90
RE: Originals for both great  
Producer : 3/31/2021 3:57 pm : link
In comment 15204457 Payasdaddy said:
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Loved destroy all monster
Original Godzilla with Raymond burr is pretty terrifying
Loved the music
Be watch Godzilla vs Kong tonight
Rooting for Godzilla but I dig this Kong. We know Kong is winning. Hope he doesn’t kill Godzilla
Gotta check out shin Godzilla. Heard it was good
Yeah. At 57 I am like a 12 yr old again , watching HBO max tonight
Wife enjoys enough to watch too
I will be watching this stuff if I make 90


Well you absolutely must see Shin Godzilla if you are a fan of the genre. It turns it on its head a little and takes a neo-realistic approach to the proceedings. Also the first CGI Godzilla from Toho, I believe.
I like the originals  
Johnny5 : 3/31/2021 3:57 pm : link
as well. Especially Godzilla. Out of all the ape movies I actually like Mighty Joe Young the best.

I couldn't sleep the other night and I watched Godzilla vs. Gigan. Wow... WOW was that bad.

The original Godzilla was legit. They really went off the seas of cheez deep end after King Kong vs. Godzilla.
Loved Destroy all monsters.....I was eight....  
George from PA : 3/31/2021 3:59 pm : link
Stay in theatre for 3 showing
RE: Loved Destroy all monsters.....I was eight....  
Johnny5 : 3/31/2021 4:03 pm : link
In comment 15204470 George from PA said:
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Stay in theatre for 3 showing

Oh of course I loved every single one when I was a kid, for sure. War of the Gargantuas was always a favorite as well.
My bias against kong  
Payasdaddy : 3/31/2021 4:04 pm : link
Comes from the original Godzilla vs Kong
He was dopey as hell looking, no way Godzilla wouldn’t torch him
And lighting just conveniently strikes him when Big G is laying waste to him
Still pissed about that
I wonder why my wife says I have a hard time letting things go :)
War of gargantuan was awesome  
Payasdaddy : 3/31/2021 4:04 pm : link
We used to play good vs bad gargantuan and beat the crap out of each other when I was around 10
not going to claim it's the best  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/31/2021 4:13 pm : link
but I just saw Shin Godzilla the other day and it was a fun watch. It was fast paced and hard to follow at times but I liked how they focused on the government response. I also really liked the way they portrayed Godzilla's destruction of the city, the first time Godzilla used his fire beam was awesome. It wasn't some amazing movie or anything and it's definitely not for everyone since it's foreign and hectic, but I would recommend it for people who are fans of monster movies and Godzilla.
This just made me flash back to two of the best weeks of the year  
Matt M. : 3/31/2021 4:20 pm : link
as a kid. ABC used to do after school movies sometimes and the best were Monster Week and the week dedicated to Planet of the Apes.
RE: Loved Destroy all monsters.....I was eight....  
BamaBlue : 3/31/2021 4:22 pm : link
In comment 15204470 George from PA said:
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Stay in theatre for 3 showing


+1 What's not to love about a movie where female aliens take control of Earth's monsters and manipulate them to destroy the Earth. My only quibble is that they didn't include my favorite monster, Gamera the turtle.
Destroy All Monsters  
Rong5611 : 3/31/2021 4:23 pm : link
That was the best one.
Destroy All Monsters...  
Chris in Philly : 3/31/2021 4:28 pm : link
was always my favorite but Shin is great. The whole Millenium and Reiwa series are great fun. I will watch any Godzilla any time with the exception of that Roland Emmerich piece of shit from 1998. I fucking HATE that movie.

This new group of movies is fun. They’re not perfect by any means but they get the vibe of the Toho movies pretty much right.
Although....  
Chris in Philly : 3/31/2021 4:29 pm : link
I too was scarred by the original King Kong vs Godzilla. That was some bullshit.
RE: Although....  
Matt M. : 3/31/2021 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15204537 Chris in Philly said:
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I too was scarred by the original King Kong vs Godzilla. That was some bullshit.
That original version, I think, is why I am currently not stoked for this movie. I'll watch this one eventually, though.

Agree on that 1998 Godzilla. Absolutely terrible. One of the best decisions was not to use that end scene for the obvious sequel they were hoping for.
RE: Destroy All Monsters...  
Johnny5 : 3/31/2021 4:35 pm : link
In comment 15204534 Chris in Philly said:
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was always my favorite but Shin is great. The whole Millenium and Reiwa series are great fun. I will watch any Godzilla any time with the exception of that Roland Emmerich piece of shit from 1998. I fucking HATE that movie.

This new group of movies is fun. They’re not perfect by any means but they get the vibe of the Toho movies pretty much right.

Ha really? I didn't hate 1998, but I didn't look at it as a real and true Godzilla movie. I guess that's why I was able to tolerate it...lol
Was there one with two King Kongs?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/31/2021 4:41 pm : link
One was brown and like ate people? That one scared the shit out of me.
Peter Jackson's 2005 King Kong is the best one in my opinion  
Giants61 : 3/31/2021 4:45 pm : link
As for Godzilla, I still like the original
RE: Was there one with two King Kongs?  
Johnny5 : 3/31/2021 4:54 pm : link
In comment 15204558 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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One was brown and like ate people? That one scared the shit out of me.

Yep that was War of the Gargantuas. That was one the best ones for me.
Anyone have HBO Max?  
NYG27 : 3/31/2021 5:05 pm : link
If I sign up for HBO Max, can I watch the new film tonight or is there an additional fee charged for premium new films like Disney+ does.

If it's available, I might just sign up for a month subscription to watch Godzilla vs Kingkong, Snyder release of Justice League and the new Mortal Kombat movie (I know it'll suck but huge fan of the video game series) in April. Those three films would be worth the $14.99 price tag for just one month.
Green Gargantuan ate people  
Payasdaddy : 3/31/2021 5:06 pm : link
Chewed up a cute japanese women and spit out her mini dress
Kinda turned me on as a 10 yr old
Explains alot!
i was actually in the 1970's King Kong lol  
nyfootballfan : 3/31/2021 5:11 pm : link
they shot the final scene at the WTC plaza and needed a crowd.
there was some kind of callout, i forget, but 3 of us went.
it was fun. we were like 14. tried to find us in the closing credits but its blurry. i recall they poured karo syrup for blood on the giant fake beast laying in the plaza. one of us took home styrofoam broken tile. no CGI those days.
different world in so many ways. :(

Godzilla- Invasion of Astro-Monster, 1965  
japanhead : 3/31/2021 5:25 pm : link
is my dark-horse favorite.
RE: i was actually in the 1970's King Kong lol  
Johnny5 : 3/31/2021 5:25 pm : link
In comment 15204606 nyfootballfan said:
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they shot the final scene at the WTC plaza and needed a crowd.
there was some kind of callout, i forget, but 3 of us went.
it was fun. we were like 14. tried to find us in the closing credits but its blurry. i recall they poured karo syrup for blood on the giant fake beast laying in the plaza. one of us took home styrofoam broken tile. no CGI those days.
different world in so many ways. :(

Ha cool. I saw that one in the theater with my pop when I was 9. I cried my eyes out when Kong dies. I can't watch any of the Kong movies after that child trauma... lol. Pathetic I know. Prolly why I liked Mighty Joe Young so much... lol. Nah scratch that MJY kicks ass.

Gargantuas they were bros. Green one lived in the water and ate peeps. Brown one lived on land and was a friend to peeps. I don't want to give the rest away... lol
I really enjoyed  
Andrew in Austin : 3/31/2021 5:33 pm : link
Kong: Skull Island. Just loved the monster fights . .. honestly wasn't expecting it. I'm super excited for the Godzilla vs. Kong movie!
Why are you discriminating  
Arkbach : 3/31/2021 5:37 pm : link
against Mothra? She was the hero against evil Godzilla. Mothra needs to be part of this conversation
King Kong vs Godzilla  
Ira : 3/31/2021 5:45 pm : link
.
King Kong vs Godzilla 1963 On Mt Fuji  
RobCrossRiver56 : 3/31/2021 5:48 pm : link
King Kong gets flown in with balloons for the fight, later Kong takes a tree and shoves it down Godzilla's throat after getting burned a few times. Epic fight scene.
1963 On Mt Fuji - ( New Window )
RE: Anyone have HBO Max?  
eli4life : 3/31/2021 5:54 pm : link
In comment 15204595 NYG27 said:
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If I sign up for HBO Max, can I watch the new film tonight or is there an additional fee charged for premium new films like Disney+ does.

If it's available, I might just sign up for a month subscription to watch Godzilla vs Kingkong, Snyder release of Justice League and the new Mortal Kombat movie (I know it'll suck but huge fan of the video game series) in April. Those three films would be worth the $14.99 price tag for just one month.


No it’s on right away plus a bunch more other stuff. Big movie will be matrix 4 in December
RE: My bias against kong  
PatersonPlank : 3/31/2021 5:55 pm : link
In comment 15204481 Payasdaddy said:
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Comes from the original Godzilla vs Kong
He was dopey as hell looking, no way Godzilla wouldn’t torch him
And lighting just conveniently strikes him when Big G is laying waste to him
Still pissed about that
I wonder why my wife says I have a hard time letting things go :)


I'm team Godzilla too, and yes that lightning ending pissed me off.
hahahaha  
Kevin999 : 3/31/2021 6:06 pm : link
I thought I was the only one pissed off about the original King Kong vs Godzilla. I too am a bit afraid to watch this but will probably do so later tonight.
My wife is shaking here head  
Payasdaddy : 3/31/2021 6:15 pm : link
She thought I was the only one still annoyed at the 1962 Godzilla vs Kong ending
She now knows I am not alone!
HBO max has a lot of Godzilla movies in their que
RE: RE: My bias against kong  
PatersonPlank : 3/31/2021 6:16 pm : link
In comment 15204657 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 15204481 Payasdaddy said:


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Comes from the original Godzilla vs Kong
He was dopey as hell looking, no way Godzilla wouldn’t torch him
And lighting just conveniently strikes him when Big G is laying waste to him
Still pissed about that
I wonder why my wife says I have a hard time letting things go :)



I'm team Godzilla too, and yes that lightning ending pissed me off.


I seem to remember that the real version had Godzilla winning, but was re-written for the US market (hence the stupid lightning). Does anyone remember this?
I have HBO Max  
OttawaGiants : 3/31/2021 6:17 pm : link
Anyone know what time the movie is available to watch? Or is it available right now?

Haven't gotten around to pulling it up. Thanks in advance
The best Godzilla film  
JohnF : 3/31/2021 6:23 pm : link
is the original Japanese version (Gojira 1954...you can get a version with subtitles), not the American version with Raymond Burr. Here's an article in the Atlantic discussing the differences, and why the 1954 version is better than the American 1956 version:

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This is not your parents' Godzilla, the 1956 recut with Raymond Burr inserted as American interlocutor, a paragon of western stoicism with his boxy suit and pipe held aloft like a talisman. The Japanese original is far darker and more seamless, a topical fantasy of uncommon power. It may not be a great film, but it is an important one, a surprisingly sombre meditation on means and ends, on when exactly the price of peace becomes too costly to pay.


The best Kong in my opinion is the original 1933 version. Ground breaking special effects by Willis O'H. Brien, along with Max Stiner's incredible score for the film made Kong a massive hit that's still impressive even today 88 years later!!

VARIETY: Is there a good case to be made that Steiner’s music for “King Kong” in 1933 is the most important film score of all time?
Ummm... Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster  
sb from NYT Forum : 3/31/2021 6:45 pm : link
...duh


RE: The best Godzilla film  
Producer : 3/31/2021 6:48 pm : link
In comment 15204682 JohnF said:
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is the original Japanese version (Gojira 1954...you can get a version with subtitles), not the American version with Raymond Burr. Here's an article in the Atlantic discussing the differences, and why the 1954 version is better than the American 1956 version:



Quote:


This is not your parents' Godzilla, the 1956 recut with Raymond Burr inserted as American interlocutor, a paragon of western stoicism with his boxy suit and pipe held aloft like a talisman. The Japanese original is far darker and more seamless, a topical fantasy of uncommon power. It may not be a great film, but it is an important one, a surprisingly sombre meditation on means and ends, on when exactly the price of peace becomes too costly to pay.



The best Kong in my opinion is the original 1933 version. Ground breaking special effects by Willis O'H. Brien, along with Max Stiner's incredible score for the film made Kong a massive hit that's still impressive even today 88 years later!!

VARIETY: Is there a good case to be made that Steiner’s music for “King Kong” in 1933 is the most important film score of all time?


Agreed on all counts. Great info.
Thanks, Producer!  
JohnF : 3/31/2021 7:16 pm : link
King Kong (1933) was a massive hit. It was done only six years after the first feature length talkie ("The Jazz Singer", 1927)!!

The effect on audiences back then was electric, much like the original 1977 Star Wars movie, which used much of the same formula...incredible special effects and a magical score by John Williams.
Not a film...  
TheEvilLurker : 3/31/2021 7:22 pm : link
But Godzilla vs Bambi
RE: War of gargantuan was awesome  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/31/2021 7:39 pm : link
In comment 15204484 Payasdaddy said:
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We used to play good vs bad gargantuan and beat the crap out of each other when I was around 10


Loved that one too. Mighty Joe Young as well as the two originals
Kong vs Godzilla was awesome  
GMAN4LIFE : 4/1/2021 8:06 am : link
just your basic summer flick. Action, some heart, and just crazy effects.

Its basically the end of the Monsterverse but just a good flick.
RE: Kong vs Godzilla was awesome  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/1/2021 11:13 am : link
In comment 15205241 GMAN4LIFE said:
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just your basic summer flick. Action, some heart, and just crazy effects.

Its basically the end of the Monsterverse but just a good flick.


Word, I watched it last night, it kicked fucking ass. Loved it!
Most, if not all on HBOMax  
TXRabbit : 4/1/2021 11:36 am : link
Watched Godzilla vs Kong (2021). Thought it wasn't too bad. Better than the previous I thought (Godzilla: King of all Monsters)

After watching G vs K, we (27yo daughter and I) immediately put on Destroy All Monsters as that was my favorite as a kid. It did not disappoint although it was the first time seeing the Japanese audio/English-dubbed.

Question: Wasn't Godzilla in one of the other Japanese series back in the day? Either Ultra Man or Jonny Socko? I have a vague memory of that as a kid.
Ok...  
Johnny5 : 4/1/2021 12:07 pm : link
If anyone tells me they loved Son of Godzilla... a bald faced liar I will call you. lol

Spoilers - Do Not Read if you haven't scene the movie.  
NYG27 : 4/1/2021 12:16 pm : link
The battle scenes were fun, great special effects. Few items I didn't like but overall, very solid payoff with Godzilla proving he was still the King of Monsters as he had King Kong left for dead twice. Although Kong more then held on his own against him.

Best scene was when Godzilla had Kong down, with his foot on his chest. Kong had a look like he was defeated and had nothing left. Then when Godzilla roared at him, Kong showed spirit and roared right back. The look on Godzilla's face was that he had a bit of respect for Kong for not giving up and then left him alone to die in peace.
probably going to watch this new one tonight  
djm : 4/1/2021 12:25 pm : link
by the way I loved Kong Shull Island.
Might not end the monster verse  
Payasdaddy : 4/1/2021 1:21 pm : link
Movie itself was all over the place. 2/3 in you knew how it would end up
Loved the action. Will watch again, like multiple times
Good...  
Johnny5 : 4/1/2021 4:14 pm : link
... so seems worth a watch then. Good deal. I may watch it tonight.
RE: hahahaha  
PatersonPlank : 4/10/2021 10:35 pm : link
In comment 15204666 Kevin999 said:
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I thought I was the only one pissed off about the original King Kong vs Godzilla. I too am a bit afraid to watch this but will probably do so later tonight.


So by my count Godzilla killed KK twice in this movie. Both times he was saved by the US (and the 2nd time by shocking his heart back). Then of course
they team together to fight the evil mechanical Godzilla.

Its like the WWF, they just won't let Godzilla win officially. He's the GOAT of Monsters!
RE: probably going to watch this new one tonight  
UConn4523 : 4/10/2021 10:55 pm : link
In comment 15205690 djm said:
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by the way I loved Kong Shull Island.


It’s the best of the new ones by far. Watched them all this past week and there’s a wide gap between them. King of the Monsters stunk and the newest was really good for the first hour and was pretty bad in the second half.
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