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Can anyone shed some light on Hernandez?

TrustTheProcess : 4/1/2021 1:46 pm
Like, what the story on him? I read articles that “inside” sources say he’s not a bad player, but they don’t love him. Anyone know?
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RE: I don’t think he has lost anything  
Matt M. : 4/1/2021 9:27 pm : link
In comment 15205993 Giant John said:
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He was sick with COVID last season.
And he was probably less than average for the year and a half before he contracted COVID.
RE: RE: Overall, I think Hernandez regressed from his rookie year  
Matt M. : 4/1/2021 9:28 pm : link
In comment 15206159 Leg of Theismann said:
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As a rookie he had a good season and seemed poised to progress into a very good OG. Instead of progression, each of the last 2 seasons, in my opinion, were marred by regression. Last year was compounded by the COVID diagnosis. I don't discount the residual effects of even a mild case, having gone through it myself and I still experience effects nearly a year later.




Sorry, but I do not remember him having a good rookie season and and being "poised to progress into a very good OG." I remember Gettleman (and others) saying he had a mid-1st round grade, and I also remember a lot of hype about how great he was at the Senior Bowl practices, about how when they were doing lineman drills, Hernandez and BJ Hill were the best OL and DL, respectively. Something about how Hernandez was basically the immovable object, and BJ Hill was the unstoppable force, and then when they squared off it was a fight of gladiators.

So, yeah, I remember all of THAT hype, and then I remember his NFL career actually started and he was never really any good. He shows flashes of being dominant at times in the run game, but has just never been consistent enough to feel comfortable about him as our starter.
He was above average as a rookie and likely their best OL, albeit on a very bad OL.
The only thing I give him a pass on  
Matt M. : 4/1/2021 9:30 pm : link
is the end of the year. I see some people judging him based solely on getting so little playing time. In all honesty, there is a very good chance that had just as much or more to do with residual effects of COVID than anything else.
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christian : 4/1/2021 9:53 pm : link
The offensive line coach situation has been an embarrassment of embarrassments in the time he’s been here. That’s the chief hope I have for him.
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eric2425ny : 4/1/2021 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15206381 christian said:
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The offensive line coach situation has been an embarrassment of embarrassments in the time he’s been here. That’s the chief hope I have for him.


Comments like this make me laugh. Are you in the meeting room with these coaches and players? Do you think maybe it’s a lack of talent that’s held the line back? Could it be coaching? Of course. But none of us on this board knows anything about what the line coaches are doing with these guys.
Lots of fans have wondered this  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 4/1/2021 10:16 pm : link
A contingent of BBI makes excuses, be it COVID, giving others playing time or injuries etc.

Unfortunately, it looks increasing like another blown DG premium pick. I hope I’m wrong, but we’ll know very soon.
RE: Hernandez  
section125 : 4/1/2021 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15205886 arniefez said:
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This my own opinion as a non expert OL evaluator to the extreme.

No exaggeration in 50+ years of watching the Giants they have never had a guard who is worse at picking up stunts than Hernandez.

For that reason alone my guess it's no coincidence that Thomas played much better with Lemieux next to him than Hernandez.


Except Lemieux who misses about half of them.....
RE: RE: Hernandez  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/1/2021 11:21 pm : link
In comment 15206404 section125 said:
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In comment 15205886 arniefez said:


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This my own opinion as a non expert OL evaluator to the extreme.

No exaggeration in 50+ years of watching the Giants they have never had a guard who is worse at picking up stunts than Hernandez.

For that reason alone my guess it's no coincidence that Thomas played much better with Lemieux next to him than Hernandez.



Except Lemieux who misses about half of them.....

Better than WH who missed ALL of them.
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christian : 4/1/2021 11:50 pm : link
In comment 15206396 eric2425ny said:
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In comment 15206381 christian said:


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The offensive line coach situation has been an embarrassment of embarrassments in the time he’s been here. That’s the chief hope I have for him.



Comments like this make me laugh. Are you in the meeting room with these coaches and players? Do you think maybe it’s a lack of talent that’s held the line back? Could it be coaching? Of course. But none of us on this board knows anything about what the line coaches are doing with these guys.


Which is precisely why it’s the chief hope I have for him.

What I do know is the Giants had a run of 3 guys at offensive line coach who aren’t employed in the NFL this year. So that’s not been awesome.
RE: Hernandez  
Rafflee : 4/2/2021 10:03 am : link
In comment 15205886 arniefez said:
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This my own opinion as a non expert OL evaluator to the extreme.

No exaggeration in 50+ years of watching the Giants they have never had a guard who is worse at picking up stunts than Hernandez.

For that reason alone my guess it's no coincidence that Thomas played much better with Lemieux next to him than Hernandez.


I'm not a Hernandez Fan, but Lemieux was AWFUL in Pass Protection--- he's the reason that Gates Stands out so much, as Gates saved his ass multiple times. I like Lemieux, for his mobility in space..... but he needs to dramatically improve his Pass protection...or he cannot play.
Lemieux was a rookie playing with no offseason and no preseason  
WillieYoung : 4/2/2021 11:07 am : link
He did very well in the run game. I think the Giants have a lot of young but raw talent on the oline (contrary to the BBI consensus) but Hernandez isn't one of them.
I see us  
PaulN : 4/4/2021 3:20 pm : link
Adding 2 more offensive linemen in this draft. I am warming up to Slater with out first pick, who could play right tackle and Peart be the swing guy, if Peart and Thomas were really good this season he can be kicked inside. I still see them adding a guard also, if they don't go with him in round 1, I still think they will add a tackle and guard. So in this draft I see them adding a tackle, guard, pass rusher, DE/DT type or pure edge rusher, running back, a weapon, whether it's a tight end or wide reciever. Those are the 5 biggest needs. Tackle Guard, Edge, Running Vack, Wideout/Tightend.
Like Willie, I think Lemieux is a better player and has  
cosmicj : 4/4/2021 4:34 pm : link
More promise than the consensus on this thread. Keep in mind that he had no training camp and was put in the lineup in the middle of a set of games against tough defenses and despite this showed he belonged in the NFL.

Patience, gentlemen, patience.
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