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gidiefor : Mod : 4/3/2021 10:04 am
For Easter Dinner this year I am featuring Prime Rib with Yorkshire Pudding. We are having a guest over who is British so I want to get the Yorkshire pudding right

I originally planned on making the roast simple -- lightly oiling exterior and rubbing fennel pollen, sea salt, ground grains of paradise, and a little Tartufo powder -- putting it in at top heat in the oven for 15 mins then reducing 350 for the finish until internal temp is 125.

I was then going to take roast out and let it rest -- put pudding mix in the cast iron pan I roasted the PR in and cooking for 30 mins while the pan and drippings were hot in the pan.

But I've been reading all kinds of different stuff -- some call for individual puddings in muffin like tins - there's folks who use two or three eggs -- there's the start em out high and lower the temp just like the roast crowd.

A little advice would be appreciated -- the last time I made yorkshire pudding - I pit it in the pan I roasted in, cooked it and cut it up to serve -- what is the right ratio of flour to egg and milk/water?
Good luck, gidiefor!  
ColHowPepper : 4/3/2021 11:34 am : link
A couple times I've made a low and slow standing rib roast: rub, as you are, sear all external surfaces, then in oven at 200 degrees 'til internal temp about 120...folks said it was slam dunk the best rib roast they ever had. It's not the conventional approach, but it works.
Hey, check out Alton Brown's video on this  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/3/2021 12:36 pm : link
...I did it for Christmas and it was the bomb.

Recipe also on his site here.


Alton Brown's Holiday Standing Rib Roast - ( New Window )
I should add that he does Yokrshire Putdding in the video also  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/3/2021 12:37 pm : link
...beef drippings from the roast are a necessary component, lol.
sb -- that's nearly the exact opposite of my  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/3/2021 1:14 pm : link
way -- except I start high and then go lower to finish -- I have browned and then roasted in the past as well - but never slow roasted

and he does the yorkshire the way I remember except that I use the existing drippings in the pan the roast cooked in to cook the pudding with

thanks that's helpful

ordinarily I'd throw the roast in the pit barrel and cook for around 45 mins to an hour till it hits the temp -- but you can't collect the dripping that way -- puts a damper on the yorkshire pudding
thanks Col....  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/3/2021 1:14 pm : link
appreciate it
RE: sb -- that's nearly the exact opposite of my  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/3/2021 2:25 pm : link
In comment 15208296 gidiefor said:
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way -- except I start high and then go lower to finish -- I have browned and then roasted in the past as well - but never slow roasted

and he does the yorkshire the way I remember except that I use the existing drippings in the pan the roast cooked in to cook the pudding with

thanks that's helpful

ordinarily I'd throw the roast in the pit barrel and cook for around 45 mins to an hour till it hits the temp -- but you can't collect the dripping that way -- puts a damper on the yorkshire pudding


Yeah, it's an interesting method, kind of like a reverse sear when cooking steak.
Nice!  
Grey Pilgrim : 4/3/2021 2:58 pm : link
We're doing the same!

Love it!
The pan and the fat  
LeonBright45 : 4/4/2021 3:07 am : link
must be hot when the batter goes in and the oven must be on high, maybe 425 degrees when the pan goes back in. I wouldn't focus on turning it down because it needs to be at a high temp. to rise and it won't lose heat much in the few minutes it takes to fully cook. It's a very eggy batter, not much flour, almost like a crepe batter, but not as much milk and a bit more flour. Once you see it rise you can take it out after about two minutes. I would google some recipes and compare them.
Gidie, do the 5 mins @ 500 degrees per pound trick  
montanagiant : 4/4/2021 4:01 am : link
If it's a 10 Lb prime rib you do 50 mins at 500 and then set the oven off for 2 hours. DON'T open it for anything. It will come out as a perfect Rare to M-Rare roast.

If you want it cooked more go 6 Mins a pound and keep it in there for 2.5 hours
RE: Gidie, do the 5 mins @ 500 degrees per pound trick  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/4/2021 10:02 am : link
In comment 15208827 montanagiant said:
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If it's a 10 Lb prime rib you do 50 mins at 500 and then set the oven off for 2 hours. DON'T open it for anything. It will come out as a perfect Rare to M-Rare roast.

If you want it cooked more go 6 Mins a pound and keep it in there for 2.5 hours


I've heard about this method and had one cooked this day -- it was pretty darned good
day = way  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/4/2021 10:03 am : link
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That sounds delicious.  
smshmth8690 : 4/4/2021 12:39 pm : link
I've never made, or have even tried Yorkshire pudding. Please let us know how it comes out! Happy Easter!
RE: That sounds delicious.  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/4/2021 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15209031 smshmth8690 said:
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I've never made, or have even tried Yorkshire pudding. Please let us know how it comes out! Happy Easter!


sms.. a good yorkshire pudding is a real treat --- will do
RE: RE: Gidie, do the 5 mins @ 500 degrees per pound trick  
Bill in UT : 4/4/2021 1:07 pm : link
In comment 15208932 gidiefor said:
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In comment 15208827 montanagiant said:


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If it's a 10 Lb prime rib you do 50 mins at 500 and then set the oven off for 2 hours. DON'T open it for anything. It will come out as a perfect Rare to M-Rare roast.

If you want it cooked more go 6 Mins a pound and keep it in there for 2.5 hours



I've heard about this method and had one cooked this day -- it was pretty darned good


I've done this once myself, and it came out good. Since then, I've looked at the recipe and the associated comments and it hasn't worked as well all the time for a good number of people, so I've gone back to using a meat thermometer. For starters, oven temps could be off by 50 degrees at the high end. Also, ovens leak heat at different rates.
Yeah -- I have to put a new seal on my oven  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/4/2021 2:47 pm : link
or I would have done it this way -- so I am going the low and slow way with the high burst at the end as Alton Brown recommends and was posted above


Also someone who is trying to join us emailed this recipe to Eric for me

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1 cup flour
pinch of salt
2 eggs
1 cup of milk

Sift flour and salt in a basin. Make a hole in te middle and break eggs into it.Mix, adding milk, and beat into s smooth batter.

Ladle some of the hot fat that has dripped from the roasting beef in the oven, into a baking tin, making sure that the bottom and sides are well covered.

Now pour in the batter.

Put the baking tin under the beef in the oven and cook for 40, minutes.

Cut into slices and serve with the beef.


Yorkshire pudding is also served as a first course in northern areas(of England) Smaller varieties, known as popovers, are served with jam.
RE: Yeah -- I have to put a new seal on my oven  
smshmth8690 : 4/4/2021 6:20 pm : link
In comment 15209116 gidiefor said:
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or I would have done it this way -- so I am going the low and slow way with the high burst at the end as Alton Brown recommends and was posted above


Also someone who is trying to join us emailed this recipe to Eric for me



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1 cup flour
pinch of salt
2 eggs
1 cup of milk

Sift flour and salt in a basin. Make a hole in te middle and break eggs into it.Mix, adding milk, and beat into s smooth batter.

Ladle some of the hot fat that has dripped from the roasting beef in the oven, into a baking tin, making sure that the bottom and sides are well covered.

Now pour in the batter.

Put the baking tin under the beef in the oven and cook for 40, minutes.

Cut into slices and serve with the beef.


Yorkshire pudding is also served as a first course in northern areas(of England) Smaller varieties, known as popovers, are served with jam.



Didn't realize Lou got banned again....
RE: RE: Yeah -- I have to put a new seal on my oven  
Bill in UT : 4/4/2021 6:42 pm : link
In comment 15209209 smshmth8690 said:
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In comment 15209116 gidiefor said:


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or I would have done it this way -- so I am going the low and slow way with the high burst at the end as Alton Brown recommends and was posted above


Also someone who is trying to join us emailed this recipe to Eric for me



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1 cup flour
pinch of salt
2 eggs
1 cup of milk

Sift flour and salt in a basin. Make a hole in te middle and break eggs into it.Mix, adding milk, and beat into s smooth batter.

Ladle some of the hot fat that has dripped from the roasting beef in the oven, into a baking tin, making sure that the bottom and sides are well covered.

Now pour in the batter.

Put the baking tin under the beef in the oven and cook for 40, minutes.

Cut into slices and serve with the beef.


Yorkshire pudding is also served as a first course in northern areas(of England) Smaller varieties, known as popovers, are served with jam.





Didn't realize Lou got banned again....


I don't believe we've had any Lou's here for over a year
RE: RE: RE: Yeah -- I have to put a new seal on my oven  
smshmth8690 : 4/4/2021 7:17 pm : link
In comment 15209216 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 15209209 smshmth8690 said:


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In comment 15209116 gidiefor said:


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or I would have done it this way -- so I am going the low and slow way with the high burst at the end as Alton Brown recommends and was posted above


Also someone who is trying to join us emailed this recipe to Eric for me



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1 cup flour
pinch of salt
2 eggs
1 cup of milk

Sift flour and salt in a basin. Make a hole in te middle and break eggs into it.Mix, adding milk, and beat into s smooth batter.

Ladle some of the hot fat that has dripped from the roasting beef in the oven, into a baking tin, making sure that the bottom and sides are well covered.

Now pour in the batter.

Put the baking tin under the beef in the oven and cook for 40, minutes.

Cut into slices and serve with the beef.


Yorkshire pudding is also served as a first course in northern areas(of England) Smaller varieties, known as popovers, are served with jam.





Didn't realize Lou got banned again....



I don't believe we've had any Lou's here for over a year


Hmmm, I must be mistaken then. Hope you had a great day!
RE: RE: RE: RE: Yeah -- I have to put a new seal on my oven  
Bill in UT : 4/4/2021 9:16 pm : link
In comment 15209237 smshmth8690 said:
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In comment 15209216 Bill in UT said:


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In comment 15209209 smshmth8690 said:


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In comment 15209116 gidiefor said:


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or I would have done it this way -- so I am going the low and slow way with the high burst at the end as Alton Brown recommends and was posted above


Also someone who is trying to join us emailed this recipe to Eric for me



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1 cup flour
pinch of salt
2 eggs
1 cup of milk

Sift flour and salt in a basin. Make a hole in te middle and break eggs into it.Mix, adding milk, and beat into s smooth batter.

Ladle some of the hot fat that has dripped from the roasting beef in the oven, into a baking tin, making sure that the bottom and sides are well covered.

Now pour in the batter.

Put the baking tin under the beef in the oven and cook for 40, minutes.

Cut into slices and serve with the beef.


Yorkshire pudding is also served as a first course in northern areas(of England) Smaller varieties, known as popovers, are served with jam.





Didn't realize Lou got banned again....



I don't believe we've had any Lou's here for over a year



Hmmm, I must be mistaken then. Hope you had a great day!

You too, Drew. Anything special at the restaurant today, if you were open?
let me just say - it was a real hit  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/5/2021 7:28 am : link
our British guest told me the Yorkshire pudding was pretty authentic
Awesome, glad to hear it!  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/5/2021 10:28 am : link
I did the same technique yesterday with a strip loin roast, it turned out great.
I have never made, nor considered Yorkshire Pudding before  
montanagiant : 4/9/2021 1:11 am : link
I'm doing it when I cook a Sirloin Cap this weekend following Gide's recipe. Sirloin cap is also known as Coulotte or Pichana cut.
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