I never get tired watching this "Sluggo" pass route (Slant and go). Hopefully Jones and Golladay will have some passing success this season on similar routes. Link - ( New Window )
But that wasnt a "sluggo"....it was a read by Plax and Eli. Depending on to which side of Plax' shoulder the DB (Butler?) was cheating, the route went the other way. Butler was leaning and looking slant, so the fade became the call. If ypu watch, Plax never actually starts a slant.
That will never, ever get old. One thing I never noticed until now: they played BACK IN THE NY GROOVE (our TD song at home) after the catch. Never realized that, but gives a little more Giants pride oomph to that clip.
How some eagle fans would say they were gonna win the Super Bowl; before the season even started. Every f*ing year.
OTOH, it was that moment when I saw the ball dropping into Plax's hands, almost as if in slow motion, that (for the first time in a long time) I thought - the Giants are gonna win the f*ing Super bowl.
But that wasnt a "sluggo"....it was a read by Plax and Eli. Depending on to which side of Plax' shoulder the DB (Butler?) was cheating, the route went the other way. Butler was leaning and looking slant, so the fade became the call. If ypu watch, Plax never actually starts a slant.
/nerd
Plax definitely takes one hard step to the inside to sell the slant though... not sure how far he has to go to consider it "starting the slant" technically but he absolutely sells the inside route w/ one hard step to the inside and it's enough to freeze Hobbs for a split second and allow Plax to get behind him. I agree the fade became the call from the start but even if that was known before the snap he definitely sells the inside route to freeze Hobbs.
Not trying to argue btw, I'm honestly not sure how many steps inside are required to call it a "sluggo"-- you're right it's not like he takes 2-3 steps on the slant and it's not like Eli actually pump faked (as Aikman seemed to say on the telecast), but Plax definitely sells the slant for a split-second w/ the hard step inside.
But that wasnt a "sluggo"....it was a read by Plax and Eli. Depending on to which side of Plax' shoulder the DB (Butler?) was cheating, the route went the other way. Butler was leaning and looking slant, so the fade became the call. If ypu watch, Plax never actually starts a slant.
/nerd
Plax definitely takes one hard step to the inside to sell the slant though... not sure how far he has to go to consider it "starting the slant" technically but he absolutely sells the inside route w/ one hard step to the inside and it's enough to freeze Hobbs for a split second and allow Plax to get behind him. I agree the fade became the call from the start but even if that was known before the snap he definitely sells the inside route to freeze Hobbs.
Not trying to argue btw, I'm honestly not sure how many steps inside are required to call it a "sluggo"-- you're right it's not like he takes 2-3 steps on the slant and it's not like Eli actually pump faked (as Aikman seemed to say on the telecast), but Plax definitely sells the slant for a split-second w/ the hard step inside.
I'm pretty sure the players involved have referenced that as a sluggo route. They were waiting all game for that call/read. The play before, I believe, Hobbs played the slant and they read it again.
Slant and then a GO. I dont even thimk he runs a couple slant steps. Hence my comment. He took a few steps at the snap to see what Butler was thinking and then adjusted to the fade (also not a "go")
A sluggo is a double move: you break hard on a 4 (usually) or 7 yard inside slant, QB pumps, and then you get vertical. Thats not what Plax it at all. Eli has done this several times where he looks at Plax, and if the corner cheats inside and there is no safety help, Eli throws the fade to Plax. Its a classic example of why Gilbrides offense was so tpughand at the same time so infuriating.
Slant and then a GO. I dont even thimk he runs a couple slant steps. Hence my comment. He took a few steps at the snap to see what Butler was thinking and then adjusted to the fade (also not a "go")
A sluggo is a double move: you break hard on a 4 (usually) or 7 yard inside slant, QB pumps, and then you get vertical. Thats not what Plax it at all. Eli has done this several times where he looks at Plax, and if the corner cheats inside and there is no safety help, Eli throws the fade to Plax. Its a classic example of why Gilbrides offense was so tpughand at the same time so infuriating.
Man, that offense Gilbride ran sure had it's fun moments. Needed smart players or else it could look bad. At least that's how it seemed to me.
I don’t know if it was a Gilbride thing or Eli, but when it was 3rd down and we needed 2 or 3 yards to move the chains and we got a 25-30 yard incompletion.
/nerd
OTOH, it was that moment when I saw the ball dropping into Plax's hands, almost as if in slow motion, that (for the first time in a long time) I thought - the Giants are gonna win the f*ing Super bowl.
/nerd
Plax definitely takes one hard step to the inside to sell the slant though... not sure how far he has to go to consider it "starting the slant" technically but he absolutely sells the inside route w/ one hard step to the inside and it's enough to freeze Hobbs for a split second and allow Plax to get behind him. I agree the fade became the call from the start but even if that was known before the snap he definitely sells the inside route to freeze Hobbs.
Not trying to argue btw, I'm honestly not sure how many steps inside are required to call it a "sluggo"-- you're right it's not like he takes 2-3 steps on the slant and it's not like Eli actually pump faked (as Aikman seemed to say on the telecast), but Plax definitely sells the slant for a split-second w/ the hard step inside.
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But that wasnt a "sluggo"....it was a read by Plax and Eli. Depending on to which side of Plax' shoulder the DB (Butler?) was cheating, the route went the other way. Butler was leaning and looking slant, so the fade became the call. If ypu watch, Plax never actually starts a slant.
/nerd
Plax definitely takes one hard step to the inside to sell the slant though... not sure how far he has to go to consider it "starting the slant" technically but he absolutely sells the inside route w/ one hard step to the inside and it's enough to freeze Hobbs for a split second and allow Plax to get behind him. I agree the fade became the call from the start but even if that was known before the snap he definitely sells the inside route to freeze Hobbs.
Not trying to argue btw, I'm honestly not sure how many steps inside are required to call it a "sluggo"-- you're right it's not like he takes 2-3 steps on the slant and it's not like Eli actually pump faked (as Aikman seemed to say on the telecast), but Plax definitely sells the slant for a split-second w/ the hard step inside.
A sluggo is a double move: you break hard on a 4 (usually) or 7 yard inside slant, QB pumps, and then you get vertical. Thats not what Plax it at all. Eli has done this several times where he looks at Plax, and if the corner cheats inside and there is no safety help, Eli throws the fade to Plax. Its a classic example of why Gilbrides offense was so tpughand at the same time so infuriating.
A sluggo is a double move: you break hard on a 4 (usually) or 7 yard inside slant, QB pumps, and then you get vertical. Thats not what Plax it at all. Eli has done this several times where he looks at Plax, and if the corner cheats inside and there is no safety help, Eli throws the fade to Plax. Its a classic example of why Gilbrides offense was so tpughand at the same time so infuriating.
Man, that offense Gilbride ran sure had it's fun moments. Needed smart players or else it could look bad. At least that's how it seemed to me.