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Question regarding Daniel Jones

Bricktop : 4/4/2021 11:36 pm
Only requires a Yes or No answer within the context of Jones remaining healthy.

Is Year Three it for DJ? Will the success or failure of the Giants this season declare Jones as the future of the team or a bust/waste of the #6 pick in the 2019 draft? Or does he deserve or require another year or two regardless of outcome in the 21-22 season?

QB Purgatory. QB Heaven.

I know, a TON of moving parts, crazy variables and unbelievable uncertainty. But what does your gut tell you after the Giants invested in personnel heavily this offseason? Just your reaction - no need to get into the weeds (unless you want to, oc). And yes, I want him to succeed and I'm pushing all my chips to the middle of the table on DJ and riding that fuckin train. That said...


My answer - Yes. This season seals his fate and he has a great year.

No, it will determine DG's fate with the Giants  
kdog77 : 4/4/2021 11:58 pm : link
I don't know what will happen to Daniel Jones after 2021, but I think we know for Gettleman he will either be proven right or wrong based on the success or failure of this season and this roster.
It's and important year for him and the Giants  
Milton : 4/5/2021 12:14 am : link
Whether or not it proves conclusive one way or the other is impossible to predict ahead of time. It always comes down to how it plays out on the field, not how it lays out on paper. All this talk about no more excuses is all well and good until very real excuses accumulate. And the flip side is that a successful season guarantees nothing as well. Exhibits: Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, Jimmy Garoppolo.

Most of all, he needs to stay healthy. If he has a healthy year I think he will have a good year.
I expect him to be poor again  
Go Terps : 4/5/2021 12:23 am : link
When that happens I think we're going to get a better sense of what the power structure is. If he's bad again and they bring him back in 2022 with no competition... that's a bad sign.
RE: I expect him to be poor again  
uconngiant : 4/5/2021 12:47 am : link
In comment 15209393 Go Terps said:
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When that happens I think we're going to get a better sense of what the power structure is. If he's bad again and they bring him back in 2022 with no competition... that's a bad sign.


Aren't you a ray of sunshine

I think he improves with more consistence of the offense with the same OC and having Barkley, Golladay and others on offense that should help a lot.

I expect significant improvement  
Reale01 : 4/5/2021 12:47 am : link
Regression would be a red flag.
Modest improvement would be a yellow flag.
RE: It's and important year for him and the Giants  
Bricktop : 4/5/2021 1:18 am : link
In comment 15209391 Milton said:
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Whether or not it proves conclusive one way or the other is impossible to predict ahead of time. It always comes down to how it plays out on the field, not how it lays out on paper. All this talk about no more excuses is all well and good until very real excuses accumulate. And the flip side is that a successful season guarantees nothing as well. Exhibits: Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, Jimmy Garoppolo.

Most of all, he needs to stay healthy. If he has a healthy year I think he will have a good year.


Fair points about Wentz and Co. But those teams didn't go hard in FA to the degree the Giants did this offseason. The FO is putting a TON of pressure on Jones by design or not. Good. He's never had better weapons, better OL or better coaching. Fuckin prove it, Daniel. I think he'll do very well.
Yes  
Rolyrock : 4/5/2021 5:26 am : link
If he can hit the open man.
I think he can.
Please make  
Big Blue '56 : 4/5/2021 6:35 am : link
this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..

RE: Please make  
Jim in Tampa : 4/5/2021 6:45 am : link
In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:
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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..

Sorry to be harsh, but the oft repeated phrase of "Please make this stop!" is one of the dumbest BBI-isms of all times.

Do you not have the power to "make it stop" by simply not opening the thread?

Saying "make it stop" is akin to saying, "I'm tired of talking about this so everyone else should just stop talking about it too".

Again, don't open the thread if you don't want to discuss it.
Yes....in my eyes.  
George from PA : 4/5/2021 6:46 am : link
The coaches probably depends....on the reasons.

A very big investment is pending....and he is very much on the fence....he has had great throws, games....and not so great...he has missed time...it is certainly time for him to put it all together
RE: RE: Please make  
Big Blue '56 : 4/5/2021 6:57 am : link
In comment 15209418 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:


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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..



Sorry to be harsh, but the oft repeated phrase of "Please make this stop!" is one of the dumbest BBI-isms of all times.

Do you not have the power to "make it stop" by simply not opening the thread?

Saying "make it stop" is akin to saying, "I'm tired of talking about this so everyone else should just stop talking about it too".

Again, don't open the thread if you don't want to discuss it.


I don’t open these threads in general. I see Terps/bw/Greg/Producer et al and I know what to expect. It’s the front page of the forum where I have to keep scrolling past, Jones, Jones, Jones, Barkley, Barkley, Barkley! It’s tiresome..

Even on the threads I do open where I want to read input from various posters, I have to scroll past the voluminous posts of tge same posters saying the same friggin’ things and it destroys the joy and continuity of various opinions by VARIOUS posters who are worth reading, PRO or CON..

So, it’s not about ignoring a thread per se, that’s easy. It’s going on one I want to participate in and seeing the same posters, who, in order to ignore, I have to scroll past and tgen seeing their same stubborn/entrenched points catch my eye as I try to bypass them..

So no, It’s not as easy as ignoring their threads. I want to read rational posts from Big Blue Blogger, JonC and other reasonable posters who make good, salient points whether I agree with them or not..
I enjoy your posts, Jim.  
Big Blue '56 : 4/5/2021 7:00 am : link
😎
RE: RE: RE: Please make  
KingBlue : 4/5/2021 7:30 am : link
In comment 15209421 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 15209418 Jim in Tampa said:


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In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:


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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..



Sorry to be harsh, but the oft repeated phrase of "Please make this stop!" is one of the dumbest BBI-isms of all times.

Do you not have the power to "make it stop" by simply not opening the thread?

Saying "make it stop" is akin to saying, "I'm tired of talking about this so everyone else should just stop talking about it too".

Again, don't open the thread if you don't want to discuss it.



I don’t open these threads in general. I see Terps/bw/Greg/Producer et al and I know what to expect. It’s the front page of the forum where I have to keep scrolling past, Jones, Jones, Jones, Barkley, Barkley, Barkley! It’s tiresome..

Even on the threads I do open where I want to read input from various posters, I have to scroll past the voluminous posts of tge same posters saying the same friggin’ things and it destroys the joy and continuity of various opinions by VARIOUS posters who are worth reading, PRO or CON..

So, it’s not about ignoring a thread per se, that’s easy. It’s going on one I want to participate in and seeing the same posters, who, in order to ignore, I have to scroll past and tgen seeing their same stubborn/entrenched points catch my eye as I try to bypass them..

So no, It’s not as easy as ignoring their threads. I want to read rational posts from Big Blue Blogger, JonC and other reasonable posters who make good, salient points whether I agree with them or not..


+1
Typically the third year...  
bw in dc : 4/5/2021 7:43 am : link
of the rookie QB should be the critical one.

However, I have read from a few insiders, and detected from the tone of Mara, that Jones will get all of ‘21 and ‘22 to showcase if he’s the solution. The brass is all in on giving their pick to replace Eli every chance to succeed. They will not cut bait until Jones no longer has a pulse for the position.

For me, if we shore up the OL as the final fix, then we have eliminated all excuses for Jones in ‘21. So it will be all on him to perform as a real point producer and not just become what many of us fear - a game manager only.
look...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/5/2021 8:15 am : link
...at me
.  
winoguy : 4/5/2021 9:02 am : link
Simplistic view is that he has some shiny new toys so he has to be better. Reality says the OL is still a big question mark and has as much to do with Jones success as he does.
One outcome I'm worried about  
Bear vs Shark : 4/5/2021 9:05 am : link
is if DJ has the type of season that's truly "slightly above average", leaving the Giants in no man's land without a definitive answer on if he's the franchise guy.

This franchise has a propensity to stick with what they have, and a huge aversion to change, so I don't trust them to make an objective call.

Whatever type of season DJ has, I hope it leaves the Giants with clarity moving forward. Having said that, obviously the preference is for the light bulb to go on and have him play lights out, leaving him as the unquestioned franchise guy.
RE: Please make  
Bear vs Shark : 4/5/2021 9:06 am : link
In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:
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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..
Message boards are a dying medium and the activity on this board seems to be getting lower and lower. I don't think restricting threads which, whether you are sick of them are not, are legitimate Giants topics and actual football talk, is a good idea.
Agreed.  
Big Blue '56 : 4/5/2021 9:11 am : link
What I ask/hope for, will never happen..But one never knows..😎😎
RE: Please make  
Alan W : 4/5/2021 9:26 am : link
In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:
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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..


Well said, sir.
RE: RE: Please make  
Alan W : 4/5/2021 9:28 am : link
In comment 15209418 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:


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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..



Sorry to be harsh, but the oft repeated phrase of "Please make this stop!" is one of the dumbest BBI-isms of all times.

Do you not have the power to "make it stop" by simply not opening the thread?

Saying "make it stop" is akin to saying, "I'm tired of talking about this so everyone else should just stop talking about it too".

Again, don't open the thread if you don't want to discuss it.


Patronizing comment -- especially given BB56's status on BBI.
RE: RE: RE: Please make  
Scooter185 : 4/5/2021 9:39 am : link
In comment 15209543 Alan W said:
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In comment 15209418 Jim in Tampa said:


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In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:


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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..



Sorry to be harsh, but the oft repeated phrase of "Please make this stop!" is one of the dumbest BBI-isms of all times.

Do you not have the power to "make it stop" by simply not opening the thread?

Saying "make it stop" is akin to saying, "I'm tired of talking about this so everyone else should just stop talking about it too".

Again, don't open the thread if you don't want to discuss it.



Patronizing comment -- especially given BB56's status on BBI.


Topics tend to get repeated a lot during the off-season, it happens on all sports forms.
Trying to shout others down is counterproductive the point of a forum, which is discussion. The topics will diversify as we get closer to the draft, then there will probably be a lot of similar topics again until preseason.
...  
christian : 4/5/2021 9:42 am : link
I’ve always maintained Jones has the requisite skills to be a good not great QB. For me it’s always 1) coaching 2) stability of the program.

By stability, I mean is management not panicking, is there a logical architectural plan for the offense etc.

Plenty of guys in Jones’s talent band have taken teams to the playoffs.
RE: Please make  
Bricktop : 4/5/2021 9:49 am : link
In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:
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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..


I'm new here man. No need to be an asshole.
Jones will be fine  
Bill L : 4/5/2021 10:04 am : link
At least this year should hopefully have a fair opportunity.
RE: ...  
BlueVinnie : 4/5/2021 10:13 am : link
In comment 15209570 christian said:
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I’ve always maintained Jones has the requisite skills to be a good not great QB. For me it’s always 1) coaching 2) stability of the program.

By stability, I mean is management not panicking, is there a logical architectural plan for the offense etc.

Plenty of guys in Jones’s talent band have taken teams to the playoffs.


That's true, there are many "good" QBs who have taken their teams to the playoffs. However, it's a different story when it comes to Super Bowl titles. It's usually the "great" ones that are able to win championships.

I don't think Jones is destined for greatness. If I'm an owner or GM and I think the ceiling on my QB is "good", I need to continue looking for a QB.
...  
ryanmkeane : 4/5/2021 10:32 am : link
there's no need to see more of Jones according to some posters, he's already a finished product and he's not a franchise QB

This assessment has been made in the face of a) the entire history of NFL QBs needing time to develop, b) lack of skill players to throw to and a majority OL that played NFL football at their respective positions for the first time in 2020
...  
ryanmkeane : 4/5/2021 10:36 am : link
this isn't hyperbole when i say that nearly every poster on BBI wanted the Giants to commit to a rebuild with a QB on a rookie deal. they've hopefully made the right hire in Judge and this upcoming season for Jones is a huge one in his development

Sometimes you actually have to wait and see the results that you ask for before quitting on the team
ryan  
djm : 4/5/2021 11:55 am : link
spot on.
RE: RE: ...  
christian : 4/5/2021 11:58 am : link
In comment 15209614 BlueVinnie said:
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That's true, there are many "good" QBs who have taken their teams to the playoffs. However, it's a different story when it comes to Super Bowl titles. It's usually the "great" ones that are able to win championships.

I don't think Jones is destined for greatness. If I'm an owner or GM and I think the ceiling on my QB is "good", I need to continue looking for a QB.


The Giants have won 4 Super Bowls behind Manning, Simms, and Hoss — and between the four of them, arguably the only great season any of them had was Manning in 2011.

If Jones can be consistently good, durable, and rise to the occasion in big games, then he’s part of the solution.
RE: ryan  
ryanmkeane : 4/5/2021 12:07 pm : link
In comment 15209775 djm said:
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spot on.

we've both taken enough bullets on Jones- WITH the caveat that we know he hasn't performed up to the standard so far of the 6th overall pick, hell, he needs to get way better.

I think the issue is that there's a lot of posters who love to play the wait and see game with other teams, or they reference other QBs who are awesome in their 3rd and 4th year that needed time, but when it comes to the Giants they don't have that same philosophy, because it gives them a reason to bitch about the front office
...  
christian : 4/5/2021 12:27 pm : link
I believe Jones has the baseline skills to be a good quarterback, but I also believe there are some seriously scary trends, both in his performance and the architecture of the offense.

My mind isn’t made up on the guy at all. But I put him squarely in the column of guys who have a lot to individually prove.

I do think it’s a little silly how his very obvious issues get summarily excused away by some. He’s played some really horrible football at times as a Giant. If those are vulnerabilities opponents can routinely exploit, he’s in trouble.
I think year 3 is it for Daniel Jones if he doesn’t show a fair amount  
Jimmy Googs : 4/5/2021 3:38 pm : link
of progress in his game and get the offense moving and scoring.

I think he will play better this year but likely still show some issues. Yet the Giants will move forward with him into 2022 and maybe even a little further. However my gut tells me he really won’t reach the level the team is looking for and somewhere in the next 3 years there will be a new guy in place.

Hope I am wrong and Jones becomes a franchise guy but just doesn’t feel like it.
All you have to do is look at the Superbowl  
Rudy5757 : 4/5/2021 3:47 pm : link
Kansas City has one of the best QBs in the game yet he couldnt do anything in the SuperBowl because his OL was shitty.

I believe that DJ has the tools to be successful but his OL has to improve dramatically. I do not think the OL has improved at all and may have gotten worse with the loss of Zeitler so at this point to ask DJ to be better is very difficult since the major factor is the OL. If we put him with a top 15 OL then he will be a top 15 QB or better.
This may depend on if they pick up Smith or Waddle  
stoneman : 4/5/2021 3:54 pm : link
otherwise, the only change to the O will be Galloway - which he would have to play all 16 games. Not sure if you can count Rudolph as an offense changer - at least until we see some early results.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Please make  
Jimmy Googs : 4/5/2021 5:20 pm : link
In comment 15209567 Scooter185 said:
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In comment 15209418 Jim in Tampa said:


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In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:


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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..



Sorry to be harsh, but the oft repeated phrase of "Please make this stop!" is one of the dumbest BBI-isms of all times.

Do you not have the power to "make it stop" by simply not opening the thread?

Saying "make it stop" is akin to saying, "I'm tired of talking about this so everyone else should just stop talking about it too".

Again, don't open the thread if you don't want to discuss it.



Patronizing comment -- especially given BB56's status on BBI.



Topics tend to get repeated a lot during the off-season, it happens on all sports forms.
Trying to shout others down is counterproductive the point of a forum, which is discussion. The topics will diversify as we get closer to the draft, then there will probably be a lot of similar topics again until preseason.


Yep, well said. Telling others to shut up because you don’t have the temperament to handle a fan message board is simply ridiculous...
I would say  
BigBlueCane : 4/5/2021 6:39 pm : link
Yes since this is the time when his belief in himself is going to be the most sorely tested its ever been.


I think he'll perform better then he has been, whether that will be reflected in the win/loss column or enough to silence his critics remains TBD.
Jones doesn’t have to answer to his critics  
Jimmy Googs : 4/5/2021 7:24 pm : link
He has to answer to Judge...
RE: All you have to do is look at the Superbowl  
Old Blue : 4/6/2021 9:21 am : link
In comment 15210139 Rudy5757 said:
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Kansas City has one of the best QBs in the game yet he couldnt do anything in the SuperBowl because his OL was shitty.

I believe that DJ has the tools to be successful but his OL has to improve dramatically. I do not think the OL has improved at all and may have gotten worse with the loss of Zeitler so at this point to ask DJ to be better is very difficult since the major factor is the OL. If we put him with a top 15 OL then he will be a top 15 QB or better.


Well said. I’ve been saying for weeks that this Humpty Dumpty O line is the key to everything. All the Waddles, Smith, and Pitts won’t make a difference unless this O line gets better, and if the O line still sucks the DJ won’t get any better either.
RE: RE: Please make  
PatersonPlank : 4/6/2021 10:09 am : link
In comment 15209518 Bear vs Shark said:
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In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:


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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..


Message boards are a dying medium and the activity on this board seems to be getting lower and lower. I don't think restricting threads which, whether you are sick of them are not, are legitimate Giants topics and actual football talk, is a good idea.


But the question is after how many 100's of times reposting the same thing does it cease becoming legitimate, and start becoming just trolling. I agree with BB56 entirely. Its like some wake up and say "lets troll BBI a little more".
RE: RE: RE: Please make  
Producer : 4/6/2021 10:18 am : link
In comment 15211016 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 15209518 Bear vs Shark said:


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In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:


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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..


Message boards are a dying medium and the activity on this board seems to be getting lower and lower. I don't think restricting threads which, whether you are sick of them are not, are legitimate Giants topics and actual football talk, is a good idea.



But the question is after how many 100's of times reposting the same thing does it cease becoming legitimate, and start becoming just trolling. I agree with BB56 entirely. Its like some wake up and say "lets troll BBI a little more".


oh come on. If someone feels trolled by different opinions about a QB on a fan forum, and feels wounded by that, they need to seek out some therapy.

Producer...  
bw in dc : 4/6/2021 10:22 am : link
Membership is free to join the BBI Group Think Club. Are you sure you don't want to join?
RE: RE: ryan  
Old Blue : 4/6/2021 10:27 am : link
In comment 15209807 ryanmkeane said:
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spot on.


we've both taken enough bullets on Jones- WITH the caveat that we know he hasn't performed up to the standard so far of the 6th overall pick, hell, he needs to get way better.

I think the issue is that there's a lot of posters who love to play the wait and see game with other teams, or they reference other QBs who are awesome in their 3rd and 4th year that needed time, but when it comes to the Giants they don't have that same philosophy, because it gives them a reason to bitch about the front office


I’ve said many times that DJ should have NEVER been picked in the first place, and certainly not the 6th pick in the draft. The team sucked at the time, and still does for that matter, but Eli should have been allowed to start his last year. The team was still going to suck, and the Giants still would have gotten a high #1 pick last year when the Burrow, Tua, and Hebert was there. Picking DJ at #6 the year before just set the team back even further, and wasted a #6 pick, which the Also wasted a pick on Barkley too, which also set the team back. Neither pick has made the team better.
RE: Producer...  
Producer : 4/6/2021 10:29 am : link
In comment 15211038 bw in dc said:
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Membership is free to join the BBI Group Think Club. Are you sure you don't want to join?


The Group Think is certainly strong here...
Look at me,just look at me  
ghost718 : 4/6/2021 10:31 am : link
Can you identify the man who did this?

His name is Jones,big quarterback, plays for Giants

and just look at me

RE: RE: RE: ryan  
Producer : 4/6/2021 10:35 am : link
In comment 15211047 Old Blue said:
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spot on.


we've both taken enough bullets on Jones- WITH the caveat that we know he hasn't performed up to the standard so far of the 6th overall pick, hell, he needs to get way better.

I think the issue is that there's a lot of posters who love to play the wait and see game with other teams, or they reference other QBs who are awesome in their 3rd and 4th year that needed time, but when it comes to the Giants they don't have that same philosophy, because it gives them a reason to bitch about the front office



I’ve said many times that DJ should have NEVER been picked in the first place, and certainly not the 6th pick in the draft. The team sucked at the time, and still does for that matter, but Eli should have been allowed to start his last year. The team was still going to suck, and the Giants still would have gotten a high #1 pick last year when the Burrow, Tua, and Hebert was there. Picking DJ at #6 the year before just set the team back even further, and wasted a #6 pick, which the Also wasted a pick on Barkley too, which also set the team back. Neither pick has made the team better.


I agree that Jones at #6 looks now as an unjustifiable reach.
RE: RE: RE: Please make  
Scooter185 : 4/6/2021 11:02 am : link
In comment 15211016 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 15209518 Bear vs Shark said:


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In comment 15209416 Big Blue '56 said:


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this stop! Rehashing the same bullshit over and over and over again! There is nothing new here or anywhere else. The same people will say the SAME THINGS, pro or con..

Unless anything new happens, these threads should now be removed by the mods, imv..

It DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE THINK, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA AFTER THIS COMING SEASON..


Message boards are a dying medium and the activity on this board seems to be getting lower and lower. I don't think restricting threads which, whether you are sick of them are not, are legitimate Giants topics and actual football talk, is a good idea.



But the question is after how many 100's of times reposting the same thing does it cease becoming legitimate, and start becoming just trolling. I agree with BB56 entirely. Its like some wake up and say "lets troll BBI a little more".


Again, it's slow right now, so the topics that get people talking are generally going to be on repeat. We'll probably see a lot of repeat topics arguing about the draft picks once that happens. It's not trolling, just typical slow off-season sports fan message board stuff.

Like I said in the "bias" thread, the team names and usernames change, but the content is the same across all the forums I visit.
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