My wife and I got our first dose of Pfizer on the same day at separate facilities. I had a very mild reaction, barely noticeable. My wife got quite sick with "flu-like" symptoms for about 3 days.
I had my second dose last week and I had a more noticeable reaction: Headache, body aches, maybe a low-grade fever. Set in about 8 hours after the shot and lasted about 36 hours. Got the shot on Wednesday morning; Friday morning I felt fine.
My wife gets her second shot on Wednesday and is planning on another bad reaction. Her immune system always sort of "goes to 11" so we weren't surprised that she had a strong reaction.
I'd advise your wife to take Thursday off if she's getting it Wednesday just in case she has bad reaction. My wife was bedridden for 2 days after her second shot.
The clinical trials of Pfizer were marginally better than Moderna but in real world data available recently both are tracking around 90% efficacy after 2nd shot to prevent infection. The real world data, as opposed to the clinical trials, seems to indicate that the vaccine *prevents* infection and does merely mitigate the symptoms of the disease. This is an important and nearly miraculous element to the vaccine. As far as I know, there are no cases of anyone being vaccinated and subsequently dying from covid. So even if you get vaccine and then get covid, which is highly unlikely, your overwhelming probability is for a mild and eminently survivable case.
The J&J vaccine is also highly effective though maybe slightly less effective in the after shot near term. However, there's considerable thought that the J&J vaccine may offer very similar efficacy over a broader timeline.
Regardless, get vaccinated. We're in a race now with the variants so the more people vaccinated the less people this horrible virus can infect.
Woke up the next morning feeling a little off. In the early afternoon, about 22 hours after the shot, it really started to hit me. I had symptoms similar to early onset of a cold or the flu - mild fever, chills, body aches, etc.
I took Tylenol every four hours and chugged a bunch of Gatorade. When I woke up the next morning, I was fine.
If you have a choice of which vaccine to get, and this includes the Janssen (J&J), get the one which you can have first.
Bill nailed it. The question isn't which has the highest efficacy (which is merely a snapshot measuring how effective the vaccine performed in clinical trails at preventing infection). This is largely meaningless once the vaccines are approved because efficacy changes as the virus mutates and population pool changes. The important question is which vaccine will keep you alive and out of the hospital. That's all of them.
Don't vaccine shop. Just get one. Here's an excellent video explaining this in depth.
Katalin Kariko, a Hungarian-born biochemist and professor at University of Pennsylvania first raised the idea of using mRNA as a means of gene therapy in 1990. She was demoted in 1995 after being rejected for several grants to begin research on mRNA which was seen as a dead end.
Fast forward. She is now a Senior VP at BioNtech and hailed as the mother of mRNA based Covid-19 vaccines.
RE: RE: High likelihood that it will be recommended to receive annual boosters
yes it does seem annual boosters will be in the cards for at least the next few years until (or if) this virulent strain of covid is eradicated.
Expect it to be ongoing for the foreseeable future. As long as COVID persists anywhere in the world it will mutate. The third world has barely been touched by vaccines at this point. And given that the drive to eradicate polio has gone on for decades and still hasn’t succeeded, it’s unlikely COVID can be eradicated worldwide. So: regular boosters will be in our future.
The only viable way to stop the need for annual boosters is to develop a vaccine that works against ALL coronaviruses. Scientists began working on it after SARS & MERS, but they lost funding since those diseases were stopped with few deaths. Well, they’ve got funding now. They are optimistic about the project, but we’ll have to wait and see.
shot on Friday 4/23. Next day I have a 4 hour outdoor gig to play with my band. I'm dreading side effects, because performing with fever sucks. I tried to reschedule the shot but it's next to impossible.
Advice I got was to just do it and not play games with the appointment.
As I mentioned I got the first Moderna vaccine shot this morning...
shot on Friday 4/23. Next day I have a 4 hour outdoor gig to play with my band. I'm dreading side effects, because performing with fever sucks. I tried to reschedule the shot but it's next to impossible.
Advice I got was to just do it and not play games with the appointment.
Good luck. FWIW, I had no adverse reaction to my 2nd Moderna.
Which vaccine is less likely to have deep-state mind control elements?
as did my wife. I had a sore arm for a day after the second dose. She had chills and felt very weak for several hours. Daughter got the J&J shot with no side effects and neighbors got Moderna with no side effects. Have yet to hear of anyone who regrets getting the vaccine though.
on friday at 2pm. the second shot stung like a B where the first I did t realize the guy stuck me. Arm was 1000x worse than the first. By 1am minor chills and aches. slept well. woke up feeling like I was tackled by James Harrison. Body aches all over. by 11am full on flu like symptoms just about as bad as any flu I have had. 8pm felt normal. Arm stopped hurting today but I have a massive headache. not sure if shot or just weather
Who have a lot of doctors as their clients, that for younger people the Pfizer vaccine has shown less side effects. In fact, many of my clients who do a lot of work with doctors have gone out of their way to drive to/find locations where they could specifically get the Pfizer vaccine.
I have no idea if it is proven that the Pfizer vaccine has less side effects for younger people, but that is what I have heard. Please don’t take the above as factual/completely accurate. Purely anecdotal.
Who have a lot of doctors as their clients, that for younger people the Pfizer vaccine has shown less side effects. In fact, many of my clients who do a lot of work with doctors have gone out of their way to drive to/find locations where they could specifically get the Pfizer vaccine.
I have no idea if it is proven that the Pfizer vaccine has less side effects for younger people, but that is what I have heard. Please don’t take the above as factual/completely accurate. Purely anecdotal.
Physicians I know have bascially said whatever you can get sooner of Moderna v. Pfizer you should take. The only contraindication is that if you have had anaphylactic reaction in the past you are better off getting Moderna.
You are absolutely correct. That is why it came to market so fast because they basically were tweaking what they had. Additionally the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) are easier to tweak and because of this, they will be relatively easy to adapt to new variants and down the road for booster shots. Nonetheless, it was a Herculean effort to perfect a vaccine with 94.1(Moderna) and 95.0 (Pfizer) efficacy.
Choosing it based on the Randomness of Fauci is as dumb as avoiding it based on the Randomness of Fauci.
Bill L, I know 5 or so people who said they refuse to get J&J because it's not as effective as Pfizer or Moderna. I just said...GET WHATEVER YOU CAN GET. People can be so dense.
Choosing it based on the Randomness of Fauci is as dumb as avoiding it based on the Randomness of Fauci.
Bill L, I know 5 or so people who said they refuse to get J&J because it's not as effective as Pfizer or Moderna. I just said...GET WHATEVER YOU CAN GET. People can be so dense.
Yup. But even those dummies are like Mensa members compared to the ones who won’t get any at all.
Moderna COVID Vaccine has more side effects than Pfizer-BioNTech:
Nearly 51 per cent of Moderna recipients had full-body symptoms, compared with 48 per cent of people who got the Pfizer/BioNTech shot. The gap widened after the second dose.
2nd shot:
"Overall, 74 per cent of people said they had general reactions after their Moderna shot, compared with 64 per cent of people getting Pfizer/BioNTech," the report said on Tuesday.
I had my second dose last week and I had a more noticeable reaction: Headache, body aches, maybe a low-grade fever. Set in about 8 hours after the shot and lasted about 36 hours. Got the shot on Wednesday morning; Friday morning I felt fine.
My wife gets her second shot on Wednesday and is planning on another bad reaction. Her immune system always sort of "goes to 11" so we weren't surprised that she had a strong reaction.
The J&J vaccine is also highly effective though maybe slightly less effective in the after shot near term. However, there's considerable thought that the J&J vaccine may offer very similar efficacy over a broader timeline.
Regardless, get vaccinated. We're in a race now with the variants so the more people vaccinated the less people this horrible virus can infect.
So basically zero side effects
I took Tylenol every four hours and chugged a bunch of Gatorade. When I woke up the next morning, I was fine.
If you have a choice of which vaccine to get, and this includes the Janssen (J&J), get the one which you can have first.
Bill nailed it. The question isn't which has the highest efficacy (which is merely a snapshot measuring how effective the vaccine performed in clinical trails at preventing infection). This is largely meaningless once the vaccines are approved because efficacy changes as the virus mutates and population pool changes. The important question is which vaccine will keep you alive and out of the hospital. That's all of them.
Don't vaccine shop. Just get one. Here's an excellent video explaining this in depth.
Why you can't compare Covid-19 vaccines - ( New Window )
Fast forward. She is now a Senior VP at BioNtech and hailed as the mother of mRNA based Covid-19 vaccines.
yes it does seem annual boosters will be in the cards for at least the next few years until (or if) this virulent strain of covid is eradicated.
Expect it to be ongoing for the foreseeable future. As long as COVID persists anywhere in the world it will mutate. The third world has barely been touched by vaccines at this point. And given that the drive to eradicate polio has gone on for decades and still hasn’t succeeded, it’s unlikely COVID can be eradicated worldwide. So: regular boosters will be in our future.
The only viable way to stop the need for annual boosters is to develop a vaccine that works against ALL coronaviruses. Scientists began working on it after SARS & MERS, but they lost funding since those diseases were stopped with few deaths. Well, they’ve got funding now. They are optimistic about the project, but we’ll have to wait and see.
Advice I got was to just do it and not play games with the appointment.
As I mentioned I think I'd prefer the Pfizer shot. I may have had the option, but it never occurred to me to request it.
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Advice I got was to just do it and not play games with the appointment.
Good luck. FWIW, I had no adverse reaction to my 2nd Moderna.
I don't want my brain to be overcome by crazy ideas.
I don't want my brain to be overcome by crazy ideas.
Too late.
No side effects.
I don't want my brain to be overcome by crazy ideas.
Yes, that's right.
It only stupidity as fatal
I have no idea if it is proven that the Pfizer vaccine has less side effects for younger people, but that is what I have heard. Please don’t take the above as factual/completely accurate. Purely anecdotal.
I have no idea if it is proven that the Pfizer vaccine has less side effects for younger people, but that is what I have heard. Please don’t take the above as factual/completely accurate. Purely anecdotal.
Physicians I know have bascially said whatever you can get sooner of Moderna v. Pfizer you should take. The only contraindication is that if you have had anaphylactic reaction in the past you are better off getting Moderna.
I don't want my brain to be overcome by crazy ideas.
Why do you post here then? :)
Still a bit sore and tired, but no headache.
30 years.
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But I am not taking off my mask anytime soon. Does anyone realize why there was no flu season this year?
Yes, that's right.
It only stupidity as fatal
Unintentionally ironic post of the year right there by LM.
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Wife is completely laid up for the day. She feels like crap.
My arm is sore, a little tired, a little sore nthing crazy
Wife is completely laid up for the day. She feels like crap.
This too shall pass. You both should be feeling good soon.
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that Fauci got the Moderna vacccine, so that makes me feel better!
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Then I’m glad I got the Pfizer
Some of you people are weird.
Bill L, I know 5 or so people who said they refuse to get J&J because it's not as effective as Pfizer or Moderna. I just said...GET WHATEVER YOU CAN GET. People can be so dense.
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Choosing it based on the Randomness of Fauci is as dumb as avoiding it based on the Randomness of Fauci.
Bill L, I know 5 or so people who said they refuse to get J&J because it's not as effective as Pfizer or Moderna. I just said...GET WHATEVER YOU CAN GET. People can be so dense.
Yup. But even those dummies are like Mensa members compared to the ones who won’t get any at all.
I sort of expected this.
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https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/moderna-covid-vaccine-has-more-side-effects-than-pfizer-biontech-study-696258 - ( New Window )
Nearly 51 per cent of Moderna recipients had full-body symptoms, compared with 48 per cent of people who got the Pfizer/BioNTech shot. The gap widened after the second dose.
2nd shot:
"Overall, 74 per cent of people said they had general reactions after their Moderna shot, compared with 64 per cent of people getting Pfizer/BioNTech," the report said on Tuesday.