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NFT: Mets opening day.... finally. Mets at Phillies deGrom

ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 2:35 pm
-Mets to FINALLY kick off their season tonight against the lefty Matt Moore

-Stroman at Chase Anderson tomorrow

-Peterson at Nola Wednesday

-Sandy thinks a Conforto extension still possible. Will continue dialogue with Boras into the season

-Lindor extension officially announced

-Alderson also brought up Syndergaard. "we’d like to keep as many players on the current roster as possible–especially the homegrown talent."

-With the long layoff bats are probably ice cold but LFGM!!!!!!!!

Lineups to come:
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RE: Gotta say...  
GF1080 : 4/5/2021 9:35 pm : link
In comment 15210646 ZGiants98 said:
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Castro looked pretty dang good there, and was lights out all spring.


Besides Segura the Phillies smoked the ball off him.
RE: RE: Gotta say...  
ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 9:39 pm : link
In comment 15210650 GF1080 said:
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In comment 15210646 ZGiants98 said:


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Castro looked pretty dang good there, and was lights out all spring.



Besides Segura the Phillies smoked the ball off him.


The Segura AB was huge and he should have had two outs off that weak hit. Was spotting a 101 mph fastball on the corners and got a really nice looking slider over the plate as well.
That strikeout  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 9:42 pm : link
pitch from May was nasty.
May is  
ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 9:43 pm : link
hilarious. lol
RE: That strikeout  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 9:44 pm : link
In comment 15210658 pjcas18 said:
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pitch from May was nasty.


that one was not. tying run to the plate.
May is Gringo Benitez  
Vanzetti : 4/5/2021 9:53 pm : link
Great stuff, no control.

Exactly what Mets didn’t need.

Sandy can’t put together s bullpen
Ugh....  
ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 9:54 pm : link
So many mistakes in this one... Hopefully, the chickens dont come home...
If only  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2021 9:55 pm : link
We didn’t take DeGrom out after 77 pitches. He could have given another inning or two.
RE: If only  
ryanmkeane : 4/5/2021 9:55 pm : link
In comment 15210680 Mike in NY said:
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We didn’t take DeGrom out after 77 pitches. He could have given another inning or two.

In Rojas defense, Castro pitched the 7th and gave up no runs
We don't know  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 9:56 pm : link
if deGrom said something to Rojas that led to the hook, until we find out, I'm going to assume he did, otherwise it makes no sense.

Might lose this game  
ryanmkeane : 4/5/2021 9:58 pm : link
6-2.
It’s early so I am not going to freak out  
bhill410 : 4/5/2021 9:59 pm : link
But it’s frustrating watching what everyone said was a weakness not get addressed by Sandy and then watch Rojas make constant mistakes yet again.
shocker  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 9:59 pm : link
the Mets bullpen blows a deGrom start.

same shit different year.
Same joke, different year  
schabadoo : 4/5/2021 9:59 pm : link
.
Well that sucked.  
moze1021 : 4/5/2021 10:00 pm : link
.
How...just how...  
HighVoltageHaus : 4/5/2021 10:00 pm : link
can a bullpen suck this much for years?
what  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 10:01 pm : link
a disaster
If deGrom pitched one more inning...  
schabadoo : 4/5/2021 10:01 pm : link
We're probably still right here.
Did we just put  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2021 10:01 pm : link
Lucas Duda at 3B?
Would not be a deGrom start  
Beezer : 4/5/2021 10:02 pm : link
without shot going bad.

Guillerme. The defensive specialist. Lol
Just so typical!  
Stufftherun : 4/5/2021 10:02 pm : link
What a fucking disaster! How do they do this to Jake with such regularity?!
Can’t believe  
Everyone Relax : 4/5/2021 10:04 pm : link
I missed baseball
Great job by new bullpen guys  
Metnut : 4/5/2021 10:04 pm : link
Still not sure why Smith didn’t hit vs the righty with a chance to bury these guys.
The names change  
Ron Johnson : 4/5/2021 10:06 pm : link
The result is always the same
Always the same script..  
Sean : 4/5/2021 10:06 pm : link
Jake deserves so much better.
well this sucks but at least all the problems are coming out at once  
Eric on Li : 4/5/2021 10:07 pm : link
they need more in the BP
they need less guys playing unnatural positions
they need less over managing (play the best players)

I'm less annoyed with pulling JDG early than not having Dom Smith in the game with the bases loaded to break the game open. And not having Marwin or someone who has actually played 3b available to come in and play 3rd late in a game.
I might  
Ron Johnson : 4/5/2021 10:08 pm : link
Have to boycott. Not for politics, for my mental health.
It's really  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 10:09 pm : link
not the bullpen solely in this case.

first I believe his manager sabotaged him (until we hear differently) taking him out an inning too early.

second, a glove first infielder brought in for defense makes a wide throw to the plate on an easy force out (pitcher did his job) the newly added free agent catcher drops the wide throw that still hit his glove. two runs scored on that play and put another runner in scoring position that allowed a SF because their was just one out.
Sigh  
steve in ky : 4/5/2021 10:13 pm : link
I took a year off of watching the Mets last season ( first time since the 60’s) because I hate the dh. It feels like it’s right where I left off with deGrom pitching great but no support.
Plenty of blame for the bullpen  
Metnut : 4/5/2021 10:15 pm : link
but scoring only 2 runs against a washed up mike Moore and most of the ass end of Philly’s bullpen isn’t good enough. Doesn’t help when we sit one of our best hitters for no reason to play a scrub.
.  
ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 10:15 pm : link
oy
@Jomboy_
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31st time in deGroms career that the bullpen blew a win for him. man.
this is the  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 10:16 pm : link
31st time the Mets have blown a deGrom lead.

lol, not funny, but what else can you do?

I wonder if that's a stat to see how other pitchers fare in this "contest", I heard it on the broadcast.

It’s the bullpen  
Vanzetti : 4/5/2021 10:19 pm : link
Yes Degrom came out too early and they made errors

But it’s not just about this game. It’s about a pen
That has five RH relievers who have great movement but cannot consistently locate their pitches.

Lugo is the only reliable reliever who can actually locate. Until he comes back, no
Lead is safe with this Collection of clowns. It’s like we have five Benitez’s
Well at least they are fighting and trying to get back the win  
steve in ky : 4/5/2021 10:22 pm : link
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players  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 10:22 pm : link
have more fight than the fans, that's good to see, but damage is probably done.
Love the fight at the end there....  
Metnut : 4/5/2021 10:24 pm : link
actually made me feel a bit better lol.

Pete just missed that... damn!
Rojas might be worse than Mickey  
ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 10:26 pm : link
And Mickey was one of the worst Ive ever seen.

Oh well. Get em tomorrow.
RE: players  
schabadoo : 4/5/2021 10:27 pm : link
In comment 15210726 pjcas18 said:
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have more fight than the fans, that's good to see, but damage is probably done.


Could use less fight, more basic plays, like completing a simple throw from 3rd to home.
that was about the worst game a manager could have but what made  
Eric on Li : 4/5/2021 10:32 pm : link
Rojas different than Callaway imo was he showed some humility last year and owned it when he made mistakes. Sitting Dom was unjustifiable, and not bringing him off the bench to hit with the bases loaded vs a righty was even worse.

play the best players. the BP isn't good enough (at this point) to be cute. and the defense will likely never be good enough.
The fact that he had  
ryanmkeane : 4/5/2021 10:37 pm : link
Smith available to come in to hit with the bases loaded was such ridiculously obvious thing, it’s actually somewhat scary to think that he didn’t do it
RE: The fact that he had  
Eric on Li : 4/5/2021 10:48 pm : link
In comment 15210742 ryanmkeane said:
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Smith available to come in to hit with the bases loaded was such ridiculously obvious thing, it’s actually somewhat scary to think that he didn’t do it


I think he felt on a limb with the Pillar decision so he didn't want to bail on it and bail on him. But that's why the decision to give him the team's first at bat of the season was stupid in the first place. He's at best what, the 9th or 10th best hitter on the team?
Oh well, one of the best things  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 10:48 pm : link
about baseball is they're back at it tomorrow.

never go more than a couple of days after a bad loss.
.  
ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 10:49 pm : link

@JustinCToscano
“I’m satisfied,” Luis Rojas said of the decisions made tonight.

In other words: He felt the processes were solid. The results just didn’t come.
Pillar  
ryanmkeane : 4/5/2021 10:50 pm : link
is definitely a starting caliber player and a very good defensive CF - but if you start him - and you SIT the third best hitter on the team on opening day, AND you have options to replace Pillar in CF, you absolutely have to get him in the game when it plays out that way
RE: Pillar  
schabadoo : 4/5/2021 10:58 pm : link
In comment 15210754 ryanmkeane said:
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is definitely a starting caliber player and a very good defensive CF - but if you start him - and you SIT the third best hitter on the team on opening day, AND you have options to replace Pillar in CF, you absolutely have to get him in the game when it plays out that way


If you state that you started him due to a lefty pitcher, and he's removed, then you have every reason to pinch hit.
RE: It's really  
allstarjim : 4/5/2021 11:02 pm : link
In comment 15210711 pjcas18 said:
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not the bullpen solely in this case.

first I believe his manager sabotaged him (until we hear differently) taking him out an inning too early.

second, a glove first infielder brought in for defense makes a wide throw to the plate on an easy force out (pitcher did his job) the newly added free agent catcher drops the wide throw that still hit his glove. two runs scored on that play and put another runner in scoring position that allowed a SF because their was just one out.


There ya go. Easy throw to home there that wasn't executed well by Guillorme or McCann.

Just made a 2-part bet with my Phillies fan buddy.

Part 1: $100 Mets finish with better record than Phils.
Part 2: Mets win division, for another $100.

Obviously, I hate money.

If Mets don't finish better than Phils, it's worst case scenario.
RE: Pillar  
allstarjim : 4/5/2021 11:04 pm : link
In comment 15210754 ryanmkeane said:
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is definitely a starting caliber player and a very good defensive CF - but if you start him - and you SIT the third best hitter on the team on opening day, AND you have options to replace Pillar in CF, you absolutely have to get him in the game when it plays out that way


If Pete just keeps the inning going, Dom is up with a chance to win the game. That's what you want.
The manager is awful, horrendous  
moespree : 4/5/2021 11:05 pm : link
They gave him an out last year by saying you can't judge off a shortened season. Well....they should have.
Mets always win on opening day  
CMicks3110 : 4/5/2021 11:07 pm : link
And it’s always meaningless. Get em tomorrow.
Rojas is plain and simple awful!  
Chris L. : 4/6/2021 7:50 am : link
There were only a few things he had control over and he got them all wrong!!!!
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