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NFT: Mets opening day.... finally. Mets at Phillies deGrom

ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 2:35 pm
-Mets to FINALLY kick off their season tonight against the lefty Matt Moore

-Stroman at Chase Anderson tomorrow

-Peterson at Nola Wednesday

-Sandy thinks a Conforto extension still possible. Will continue dialogue with Boras into the season

-Lindor extension officially announced

-Alderson also brought up Syndergaard. "we’d like to keep as many players on the current roster as possible–especially the homegrown talent."

-With the long layoff bats are probably ice cold but LFGM!!!!!!!!

Lineups to come:
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RE: rojas really testing me already  
KDavies : 4/5/2021 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15210174 mphbullet36 said:
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Moore better vs righties and missing one of our best hitters and Nimmo in the 8th spot is stupid...just a horrendous opening day lineup regardless of the outcome.

Nimmo is the leadoff hitter (keep him there)

Dom needs to be in there everday

not that difficult.


Spot on. Ridiculous lineup.
Dumb  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:14 pm : link
decision. Trying to be too cutesy. Dom is your regular LF .900 vs. lefties in 2020, .876 in 2019. This is being too cutesy. If it's about splits then Nimmo should sit today (not that I would have sat either one of them). Pillar career 1-11 vs. Moore (who others have noted has reverse splits).
What a stupid lineup decision  
Metnut : 4/5/2021 4:18 pm : link
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DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:19 pm : link
Mathew Brownstein
@MBrownstein89
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FWIW: Among 45 left-handed hitters who faced lefty pitching in a min. 50 PAs in 2020, Dominic Smith recorded the 7th-highest wRC+ at 146.

@Metsmerized
#Mets #LGM
The only thing I can think of  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2021 4:19 pm : link
Philly is a bandbox with a bunch of flyball hitters so they want to have the best defensive OF. Even then that doesn't justify batting Pillar 1st and Nimmo 8th
RE: Dumb  
Everyone Relax : 4/5/2021 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15210195 DanMetroMan said:
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decision. Trying to be too cutesy. Dom is your regular LF .900 vs. lefties in 2020, .876 in 2019. This is being too cutesy. If it's about splits then Nimmo should sit today (not that I would have sat either one of them). Pillar career 1-11 vs. Moore (who others have noted has reverse splits).

Agreed with all of this, but you know Pillar is going to end up having a big game today now.
RE: The only thing I can think of  
mphbullet36 : 4/5/2021 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15210208 Mike in NY said:
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Philly is a bandbox with a bunch of flyball hitters so they want to have the best defensive OF. Even then that doesn't justify batting Pillar 1st and Nimmo 8th


if we score enough runs DeGrom will get the W...its that simple.

His  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:21 pm : link
answer isn't any better.


Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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Luis Rojas on the decision to play Kevin Pillar over Dominic Smith:

"We're going more with the matchup. A guy like Pillar, the way he's been swinging the bat against lefties ... this is how this team has been built from the offseason and into Spring Training."
RE: RE: Dumb  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:22 pm : link
In comment 15210210 Everyone Relax said:
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In comment 15210195 DanMetroMan said:


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decision. Trying to be too cutesy. Dom is your regular LF .900 vs. lefties in 2020, .876 in 2019. This is being too cutesy. If it's about splits then Nimmo should sit today (not that I would have sat either one of them). Pillar career 1-11 vs. Moore (who others have noted has reverse splits).


Agreed with all of this, but you know Pillar is going to end up having a big game today now.


I'm obviously rooting for 5-5 with 4 homers and to be mocked for not liking it.
RE: Dumb  
mphbullet36 : 4/5/2021 4:22 pm : link
In comment 15210195 DanMetroMan said:
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decision. Trying to be too cutesy. Dom is your regular LF .900 vs. lefties in 2020, .876 in 2019. This is being too cutesy. If it's about splits then Nimmo should sit today (not that I would have sat either one of them). Pillar career 1-11 vs. Moore (who others have noted has reverse splits).


I just don't get it...some are saying maybe he was behind defensively in spring training with that injury...but there hasn't been anything recently on that right? Just seems like an overreaction to lefty vs righty sh*t. When Moore actually has reverse splits and Pillar is a meh hitter to begin with. I don't mind spelling our main guys every once in a while but let the main guys play and don't jerk around the lineup...just over managing.
Really  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:24 pm : link
seems like textbook over managing to me. Moore is lefty, yes. But reverse splits, Dom has hit lefties the last 2 seasons, and "playing the matchups" is fine when the numbers are actually in your favor. This isn't one of those cases. I fully understand if it's game 4-5 and Pillar etc haven't seen time, then yeah I guess it's a lefty you force him until the lineup but not opening day.
Are these lineup  
Everyone Relax : 4/5/2021 4:25 pm : link
decisions solely on the manager? I imagine there's some input from the front office as well.
RE: Are these lineup  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15210225 Everyone Relax said:
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decisions solely on the manager? I imagine there's some input from the front office as well.


Sandy claims he's going to be hands-off with the manager. How true hat is? Who knows.
Not making excuses for Rojas,  
Everyone Relax : 4/5/2021 4:28 pm : link
but could it also be they want the best defense out there in Jakes first start?
DeGrom  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:28 pm : link
will be allowed to throw "about" 100 pitches per Rojas.
RE: Not making excuses for Rojas,  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:30 pm : link
In comment 15210236 Everyone Relax said:
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but could it also be they want the best defense out there in Jakes first start?


He specifically said it's about Pillar against a lefty starter.
RE: Not making excuses for Rojas,  
mphbullet36 : 4/5/2021 4:30 pm : link
In comment 15210236 Everyone Relax said:
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but could it also be they want the best defense out there in Jakes first start?


Pillar isn't a good CF actually anymore (if he was going defense you might as well start Almora).

And I'm sure is just saying get me runs and I will figure out the rest.
Lucchesi  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:31 pm : link
to be skipped Saturday in favor of DeGrom.
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DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:34 pm : link
Matz looking VERY good for Toronto in the first. Strikes out 2
what bothers me  
mphbullet36 : 4/5/2021 4:38 pm : link
if he just runs the main guys out there no one complains...we just go in day 1 with our best lineup...but no Rojas has to get cute with it.
RE: .  
Everyone Relax : 4/5/2021 4:45 pm : link
In comment 15210250 DanMetroMan said:
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Matz looking VERY good for Toronto in the first. Strikes out 2

I wish him the best, but he was never going to succeed here. Wheeler on the other hand, f'n cheapskate Wilpon is clearly to blame for that one.
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DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:46 pm : link
Tim Britton
@TimBritton
The plan is to get Pillar as many ABs as possible against Moore, then probably shift to Smith once a righty reliever comes into the game.
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DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:47 pm : link
No need to force Pillar and his 1-11 into the lineup for "as many AB's as possible against Moore" especially when you consider you'd want Pillar (and not Dom) in there late for defense.
I just don’t want them to turn Dom into a platoon  
Metnut : 4/5/2021 4:48 pm : link
player. He hit lefties fine and has room to improve. We should be getting him as any ABs as we can, especially considering he’s likely our best option.

Also, why the hell is Nimmo batting 8th and Pillar 1st?
Semien  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:48 pm : link
with a BOMB, Biggio back to back. Folty looks really bad. The Rangers are horrible.
Don't analytics  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 4:54 pm : link
extend to putting out a lineup or did that end for the Mets with Davey Johnson?

Pillar can wind up with a monster game and shut people up, but it doesn't change that the analytics strongly suggested against this.

With the expanded analytics dept the Mets have you have to wonder if it includes lineup construction too.
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DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:56 pm : link
Matz is looking NASTY for Toronto. 2 perfect, 4 k's. Touching 96-97 on the gun
RE: Don't analytics  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 4:58 pm : link
In comment 15210296 pjcas18 said:
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extend to putting out a lineup or did that end for the Mets with Davey Johnson?

Pillar can wind up with a monster game and shut people up, but it doesn't change that the analytics strongly suggested against this.

With the expanded analytics dept the Mets have you have to wonder if it includes lineup construction too.


It doesn't even sound like Rojas is making the claim he has some inside numbers that are pushing this decision. Said he wanted Pillar in there vs. a lefty given his ab's this spring against lefties and that they plan on putting in Dom if a righty comes into the game.
RE: RE: Don't analytics  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 5:02 pm : link
In comment 15210301 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15210296 pjcas18 said:


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extend to putting out a lineup or did that end for the Mets with Davey Johnson?

Pillar can wind up with a monster game and shut people up, but it doesn't change that the analytics strongly suggested against this.

With the expanded analytics dept the Mets have you have to wonder if it includes lineup construction too.



It doesn't even sound like Rojas is making the claim he has some inside numbers that are pushing this decision. Said he wanted Pillar in there vs. a lefty given his ab's this spring against lefties and that they plan on putting in Dom if a righty comes into the game.


Right, and his claim is against the analytics, so as fans we have to assume he's not considering what the stats suggest the best lineup should be and therefore analytics do not extend to the lineup. I am using stats and analytics interchangeably like a lot of people do.

At least in this case he's not considering the data.
I think Pillar and Villar were signed as quasi-super subs.  
ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 5:02 pm : link
To some extent, with Guillorme, he’s arrived as somebody you want in that role too.

Truth is, if we are fully healthy, Rojas will look for excuses to get guys in the lineup. I think that’s all this is. With a stretch of righties coming up, it’s probably a week before Pillar can get in a game again.

It’s a long season.

Hopefully next time Pillar gets a start it’s for Nimmo or Conforto and he doesn’t become Dom’s caddy.
Matz badly needed a change of scenery.  
ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 5:03 pm : link
I’m excited for him and will continue to root for him.

Heck, even Harvey looked decent the other night too and I was happy to see it.
3  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 5:06 pm : link
pefect for Matz.

Wheeler, Harvey, Flexen and now Matz all pitching well in their season debuts.
Worth  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 5:06 pm : link
noting, Texas is REALLY bad.
I have Matz  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 5:15 pm : link
in my fantasy baseball team, lol.

I'm not a fantasy baseball guy, but I got roped into it and needed a guy late and thought Matz has good stuff. Sometimes. and maybe I can be the beneficiary.

He had decent starts with the Mets until the bottom would fall out and he'd have awful innings that negated his good starts.
Moderna  
Vanzetti : 4/5/2021 5:41 pm : link
I think they are relatively the same. I had Pfizer but I think Moderna boosters will be better able to deal with variants
Sorry wrong thread  
Vanzetti : 4/5/2021 5:41 pm : link
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Akil Baddoo  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 5:45 pm : link
Rule 5 pick... first pitch he ever sees... HR, 2nd career game... granny.
We got garbage back for Matz  
CMicks3110 : 4/5/2021 5:58 pm : link
Should have kept him. With all the new analytics maybe we could have made him a better pitcher.
I  
DanMetroMan : 4/5/2021 5:59 pm : link
promise I won't do this every time he starts but 5 innings 2 hits 1 run 1 walk 5 k's for Matz.
I was kind of surprised the Mets cut him  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 6:07 pm : link

Robert Murray
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Source: Free-agent pitcher Mike Montgomery in agreement with the New York Yankees, pending physical.
RE: I  
pjcas18 : 4/5/2021 6:14 pm : link
In comment 15210381 DanMetroMan said:
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promise I won't do this every time he starts but 5 innings 2 hits 1 run 1 walk 5 k's for Matz.


K's the side in the 6th. I bear no ill will to him or almost any other ex-Met.

I do bear ill will toward the ex GM though.
I still understand why they traded Matz but I wonder how much Bauer  
Eric on Li : 4/5/2021 6:31 pm : link
played into that, if memory serves they did that deal right before the rumors came out about how serious they were in on Bauer and we know they legitimately thought they had him at one point.

Either way if they kept Matz they probably wouldn't have signed Walker, so if he pitches well they got him plus the 3 arms in the system.

also agree with everyone above, benching Dom is stupid. Wouldn't it have been good to have Pillar on the bench if Alvardo comes in late in the game and the pitchers spot is due up?
are gkr in philly or are they calling games from citi still?  
CGiants07 : 4/5/2021 6:32 pm : link
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anyone have a stream?  
JayBinQueens : 4/5/2021 6:44 pm : link
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RE: are gkr in philly or are they calling games from citi still?  
GF1080 : 4/5/2021 7:12 pm : link
In comment 15210418 CGiants07 said:
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Citi
Jake already getting  
ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 7:20 pm : link
squeezed
Phillies  
Everyone Relax : 4/5/2021 7:23 pm : link
Blew their one shot :)
RE: Jake already getting  
JoeMoney19 : 4/5/2021 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15210482 ZGiants98 said:
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squeezed

After two bad strike calls on Lindor.
What the heck is up with this ump??  
moze1021 : 4/5/2021 7:29 pm : link
Squeezing Jake and giving Moore multiple pitches off the plate?? And the late timeout call?? Weird stuff
This is what happens when your lineup has a  
ZGiants98 : 4/5/2021 7:29 pm : link
week off.
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