Let's see how we fare against a stout Brooklyn team. Up-paced game for Knicks, OR pace-down for Nets? Hoping for the later and our defense slows them down.
They can't beat the surefire playoff teams without injuries or great 3PT shooting nights and that's the reality.
Now they have to figure out how to improve the roster to beat playoff teams. Don't look for someone to blame. They're an improved team, they're just not good enough as is, which we all knew already.
yup next step is adding pieces this offseason and take another jump..
Nice to be in a situation now where it is about adding pieces to compete not 1 year deals to tank
They can't beat the surefire playoff teams without injuries or great 3PT shooting nights and that's the reality.
Now they have to figure out how to improve the roster to beat playoff teams. Don't look for someone to blame. They're an improved team, they're just not good enough as is, which we all knew already.
They are ahead of schedule than anyone expected them to be.
This season is a surprise and has been a lot of fun.
This off-season will determine the future.
Do you package the 3 top picks they have to move up for one top player?
Do you extend Randle?
Resign Burks, Noel, Bullock, Rose, Etc?
Do you go after Lonzo and some mid range talent?
Do you go all in on a big trade in the off-season with the capital we have? (Can we shake free Mitchell?)
I for one am enjoying this season and look forward to seeing what they can do in the off season.
I couldn’t help but wonder why wouldn’t Thibs give Frank a shot to shutdown Luka or Kyrie. Interesting stat from Twitter. Knicks are 2-7 in games decided by 3 points or less. In the 2 games they win Frank closed the game against indiana and Orlando. The 7 losses Frank did not close and the following players shot above 50 percent and scored the following 4th quarter/2nd half points:
We are at #15, #21 and #33. Together maybe move to 8? Unless something changes you are not getting a star. See Frank, Knox Topin. Better (the way we draft) taking three blind shots at the apple.
RE: RE: Welcome to the tough plateau of rebuilding
They can't beat the surefire playoff teams without injuries or great 3PT shooting nights and that's the reality.
Now they have to figure out how to improve the roster to beat playoff teams. Don't look for someone to blame. They're an improved team, they're just not good enough as is, which we all knew already.
They are ahead of schedule than anyone expected them to be.
This season is a surprise and has been a lot of fun.
This off-season will determine the future.
Do you package the 3 top picks they have to move up for one top player?
Do you extend Randle?
Resign Burks, Noel, Bullock, Rose, Etc?
Do you go after Lonzo and some mid range talent?
Do you go all in on a big trade in the off-season with the capital we have? (Can we shake free Mitchell?)
I for one am enjoying this season and look forward to seeing what they can do in the off season.
Yes they extend Randle or at the very least they exercise that option year.
They will go big game hunting this off-season. Just unsure of which player(s)
whatever it is Knicks won't let Randle get away. He's too good a player. Efficient. Shares the ball. good rebounder. Not a bad defender even if he isn't great. He just needs help.
I’m just curious about your thoughts about the team, do you consider the nets a fun team, will you be really excited when they win a championship. It’s almost like you don’t know any of the players, they are not your players. I feel like these guys will be here this year and next year and then move on in 2 years.
It reminds me of when yanks won the World Series when free agency era really took off and they had arod, etc. I remember being so psyched during the first run in 96, 98, 99, 00, it was awesome and we loved those players, Jeter, Bernie, Brosiuus, O’Neil, Pettite, Rivera, Posada. I’m sure I am missing some, but those were guys that were true yankees. When they win in 09, I remember it wasn’t that exciting, obviously happy they won, but not the same.
I don’t mean this as a dig at nets fans, but really curious what the thoughts are
if 1 has supported the team as long as i have, then you have watched the franchise evolve and this team is every bit them, and a part of that evolution.
even this current team, which got rebuilt under a new GM after the biggest disaster (celtics trade) a franchise could endure. it started with a few picks and a change in style of play. culture evolved and players developed. then a few key decisions, and more savy picks/trades to get resources.
nobody cares about the nets if they dont become a fun to watch playoff team under kenny. nobody comes to the nets (KD/Kyrie) if they dont have an OK roster/good facility/willing owner- and good training and development staff.
Harden isnt acquired without having drafted and developed Levert and Allen.
the team can withstand injuries without finding Joe harris, Brown, and others. and all of this without dinwiddie.
so while optics might say this is some "bought team"- its bought because the franchise evolved from the Billy King depths- so there really is no angle that short changes it.
they even helped make harden buy in to being the most interesting guy to watch in the league- and Kyrie as well.
go as high as 22 per for Lonzo. He'd be a HUGE addition.
I've always wanted a PG like Ball here with the Knicks. Big, tall and does everything well, including defend. Those score first PGs that pick up assists are nice, but I want the pass first PG that might yield the same or even less assists than some other PGs, but he's running a more efficient or prolific offense.
I’m just curious about your thoughts about the team, do you consider the nets a fun team, will you be really excited when they win a championship. It’s almost like you don’t know any of the players, they are not your players. I feel like these guys will be here this year and next year and then move on in 2 years.
It reminds me of when yanks won the World Series when free agency era really took off and they had arod, etc. I remember being so psyched during the first run in 96, 98, 99, 00, it was awesome and we loved those players, Jeter, Bernie, Brosiuus, O’Neil, Pettite, Rivera, Posada. I’m sure I am missing some, but those were guys that were true yankees. When they win in 09, I remember it wasn’t that exciting, obviously happy they won, but not the same.
I don’t mean this as a dig at nets fans, but really curious what the thoughts are
I'll take my swing at this as well. The players here right now are different but this roster was built from the day Marks arrived and the vision is mostly consistent with what he laid out from day 1, and to see that succeed would be enormously satisfying.
Spencer Dinwiddie would be a key starter if not for his injury, Marks found him in the D league in his first year. Same as he got Chiozza, TLC, and now Alize Johnson. And even further back net fans will remember Sean Kilpatrick.
Bruce Brown was a savvy trade pick up for a non lotto pick. He has carved out a really nice role for himself.
Nic Claxton was a 2nd round pick just last year. He too has carved out a nice role for himself.
Tyler Johnson was I believe 1 of the first FA targets Marks went after as GM even though he ended up taking a roundabout course to get here.
his first 2 non lotto picks Levert + Allen got them Harden.
Let's also not forget that Marks traded for DLo, resurrected him into a max player, and then traded him in a s&t for KD - obviously GS didn't make a basketball trade there but there is some symbolism. Point being a big reason why KD + Kyrie chose to sign here is that Sean Marks was doing a great job and they bought in on that.
So to me the answer to this question is sort of like asking a Pats fan how they'd feel if Belichek won a SB with Cam Newton and all the FA's they signed last month and I think the answer would be that it'd be just as gratifying and perhaps even more so to win one without Brady. They may not all be homegrown players from the draft but the win would still be a testament to the program and philosophy that Belichek has built there. The Nets winning would similarly validate everything Marks has done since Feb 2016. Big ticket FA's just bought into the Nets sooner than expected.
this nets team wouldn't be where it is right now without the moves to acquire Levert, Dinwiddie, DLo, Allen, and Harris (who I completely forgot to mention). Also to a lesser extent Bruce Brown, and Claxton.
So while they were 100% fortunate to get 1 superstar wanting to be here let alone 3 it wasn't totally accidental that they were able to execute that. Marks had them in good position thanks to very good asset management.
go as high as 22 per for Lonzo. He'd be a HUGE addition.
I've always wanted a PG like Ball here with the Knicks. Big, tall and does everything well, including defend. Those score first PGs that pick up assists are nice, but I want the pass first PG that might yield the same or even less assists than some other PGs, but he's running a more efficient or prolific offense.
He's an ascending player too. Not something the Knicks have been able to really add the last "few" years. Yeah, Randle sure as hell appears to be one but when they signed him it was more like a desperate Knicks signing (not at all knocking Randle or the Knicks) but the Knicks signing a young guy on the rise coming off a breakout year? Unheard of.
I’d be ecstatic if they won a Championship this year. They’ve never won one and I’d love to see it. I could care less if Marks brought in Superstars. That’s the way of the NBA. It’s a Superstar Team league and if you don’t have at least two on your team, then you will struggle to win a Championship. Last time the NETs were in back to back Championships, they had a guy named Jason Kidd! Jason Kidd was not a home grown talent and the NETs would not have gotten to the Championship without him. Would it be nice to build a team from the ground up and see them win a Championship? Yes, of course, but it’s a rarity in this league and so what Sean Marks did was simply miraculous and if they win a Championship, he’d be a major reason why. If the Knicks went this route, and they’ve tried, Knicks fans would be absolutely giddy and so I don’t get the hate. Anyway, I’d be very excited to see them win a Championship with this team. I also think Irving is here for the long haul. He grew up a NETs fan and I think Harden and Durant will also remain, as they’re all very close, as well. Money is not the object for them anymore, it’s winning Championships.
I’d be ecstatic if they won a Championship this year. They’ve never won one and I’d love to see it. I could care less if Marks brought in Superstars. That’s the way of the NBA. It’s a Superstar Team league and if you don’t have at least two on your team, then you will struggle to win a Championship. Last time the NETs were in back to back Championships, they had a guy named Jason Kidd! Jason Kidd was not a home grown talent and the NETs would not have gotten to the Championship without him. Would it be nice to build a team from the ground up and see them win a Championship? Yes, of course, but it’s a rarity in this league and so what Sean Marks did was simply miraculous and if they win a Championship, he’d be a major reason why. If the Knicks went this route, and they’ve tried, Knicks fans would be absolutely giddy and so I don’t get the hate. Anyway, I’d be very excited to see them win a Championship with this team. I also think Irving is here for the long haul. He grew up a NETs fan and I think Harden and Durant will also remain, as they’re all very close, as well. Money is not the object for them anymore, it’s winning Championships.
if winning championships was truly the #1 goal for Durant, he never would have left Golden State. As for Sean Marks, he did a very good job. But let's not pretend any of it mattered to Kyrie or Durant. It didn't matter to them if it was Sean Marks or Sean Penn running things.
Simms, I will say this with full confidence there is no way this team will remain together past next year. I think the honeymoon stage is working on great but durant and harden won’t be able to handle the criticism they will face after they win it this year. Durant will always be known as a ring chaser who couldn’t do it with out 2 other superstars. It will eat away at him and it will cause friction. Harden will be known as a quitter who chased a ring and road the coat tails of durant and Kyrie to his first championship and his ego will get in the way. This is a 2 year window and I fully expect the nets to easily win thisbyear and next year. Anything less than back to back championships assuming healthy during the playoffs is a complete failure in my book. They have arguably 3 of the top 7 players in the nba on their roster who are also ball handlers and selfless players. Only injuries stand in the way. If healthy lebron and AD have no shot. I forgot how good Kyrie is, he may be the most skilled all around offensive player I have seen in my liefetime and #2 is James harden. Durant is the best offensive player I have ever seen from a shot making perspective.
I think we are going to a historic playoff run from this group, again assuming they are all healthy.
I feel the same about KD. He's a big dude & those lower body injuries for those guys...there's gotta be doubt.
If Brooklyn is at full strength come playoffs, they're the prohibitive favorite in the East. Too much firepower. I'll be rooting like hell against them. And this 'Is Harden MVP?' talk is GTFO worthy. No way a man who left Houston like that deserves the MVP.
Luka
Zion
LaMelo
Mitchell
Tatum
Fox
Simmons
Booker
Bam
SGA
Ingram
Jaylen Brown
Murray
Porter Jr.
Ja
Trae
Mikal Bridges
Sabonis
Edwards
Ayton
Haliburton
John Collins
Jarrett Allen
Lonzo
Sexton
Just a quick snap thoughts...I'd put Tatum over LaMelo & Mitchell. Ja should be higher, Sabonis too. Ingram is too high.
I feel the same about KD. He's a big dude & those lower body injuries for those guys...there's gotta be doubt.
If Brooklyn is at full strength come playoffs, they're the prohibitive favorite in the East. Too much firepower. I'll be rooting like hell against them. And this 'Is Harden MVP?' talk is GTFO worthy. No way a man who left Houston like that deserves the MVP.
There is a reason why players dont come back from achilles injuries in basketball..
It all deoends hoe they are reffed in thr playoffs, if a team likr the sixers are allowed tonplay physical they can beat them but if refs are goingnto call it tight forget about it
Luka
Zion
LaMelo
Mitchell
Tatum
Fox
Simmons
Booker
Bam
SGA
Ingram
Jaylen Brown
Murray
Porter Jr.
Ja
Trae
Mikal Bridges
Sabonis
Edwards
Ayton
Haliburton
John Collins
Jarrett Allen
Lonzo
Sexton
Just a quick snap thoughts...I'd put Tatum over LaMelo & Mitchell. Ja should be higher, Sabonis too. Ingram is too high.
Just like the all-rookie teams last year. On what planet does Mikal Bridges (who's 4 years older) have more future potential than RJ Barrett?
I also find it comical that Anthony Edwards is likely going to win ROY when his efficiency numbers are actually worse than Barrett's last year which was apparently the reason that guys like Terence Davis made the all-rookie team over him.
Luka
Zion
LaMelo
Mitchell
Tatum
Fox
Simmons
Booker
Bam
SGA
Ingram
Jaylen Brown
Murray
Porter Jr.
Ja
Trae
Mikal Bridges
Sabonis
Edwards
Ayton
Haliburton
John Collins
Jarrett Allen
Lonzo
Sexton
Just a quick snap thoughts...I'd put Tatum over LaMelo & Mitchell. Ja should be higher, Sabonis too. Ingram is too high.
No Rj? lol
First thing I thought as well. The most egregious guy on that list over him is Bridges, who is a 3-D guy and is barely under 25 years old.
On that list I would rather have Barrett than Edwards, Haliburton, Collins, Allen, and Sexton too. I mean especially Edwards, what has he shown at this point? He is shooting 39% from the field, and barely scoring more points per game than shots taken.
Doubtful this is even an option. But would you move both 1st round picks and the 2022 NYK 1st to move up to 3 or 4 to draft Suggs?
id rather save it for a younger more established player
Totally get that but I'm just not sure what stars are breaking free. Even the logical candidates are mostly signed really long term or on really good teams.
Its definitely riskier but if you hit on one of these guys at the top of the draft you can still use your cap space going forward to fortify the roster. You would be low on picks but still have a cap room and you know the Knicks will have no problem paying the luxury tax.
Every mock and what I am hearing/ reading has Suggs going 3-5. But that can obviously change. I just think he is perfect for this team.
Doubtful this is even an option. But would you move both 1st round picks and the 2022 NYK 1st to move up to 3 or 4 to draft Suggs?
id rather save it for a younger more established player
Totally get that but I'm just not sure what stars are breaking free. Even the logical candidates are mostly signed really long term or on really good teams.
Its definitely riskier but if you hit on one of these guys at the top of the draft you can still use your cap space going forward to fortify the roster. You would be low on picks but still have a cap room and you know the Knicks will have no problem paying the luxury tax.
Every mock and what I am hearing/ reading has Suggs going 3-5. But that can obviously change. I just think he is perfect for this team.
I just dont like giving up 3 1sts for a draft pick, no matter how good the player looks in college, and i think Suggs could be a beast..
I do think Beal will be available this offseason, Lavine could be traded if he doesnt sign an extension..There are going tk be guys we dont expect available
but only the Knicks would finally show signs of digging their way out of this decades long run of futility, possess TONS of cap room, plenty of draft capital and even a good group of good young NBA talent, and of course, there are no legendary dream team fuckers out there that want to form a big three. They are all in happy places. Of course they are.
Nets make the worst fucking trade in NBA history and all but bankroll Boston's coffers, reset things for a minute, go 500, and 3 legends moonwalk into their lap. Fuck off already. We are hoping for bradley fucking beal who isn't a legendary talent and won't ever be a legendary talent. He's great, but he aint holy shit great.
Where is that player? The only one I can think of is Leonard who likely wants to stay in stupid LA.
but only the Knicks would finally show signs of digging their way out of this decades long run of futility, possess TONS of cap room, plenty of draft capital and even a good group of good young NBA talent, and of course, there are no legendary dream team fuckers out there that want to form a big three. They are all in happy places. Of course they are.
Nets make the worst fucking trade in NBA history and all but bankroll Boston's coffers, reset things for a minute, go 500, and 3 legends moonwalk into their lap. Fuck off already. We are hoping for bradley fucking beal who isn't a legendary talent and won't ever be a legendary talent. He's great, but he aint holy shit great.
Where is that player? The only one I can think of is Leonard who likely wants to stay in stupid LA.
we just wont know who the player is until the offseason or even maybe next offseason..
but only the Knicks would finally show signs of digging their way out of this decades long run of futility, possess TONS of cap room, plenty of draft capital and even a good group of good young NBA talent, and of course, there are no legendary dream team fuckers out there that want to form a big three. They are all in happy places. Of course they are.
Nets make the worst fucking trade in NBA history and all but bankroll Boston's coffers, reset things for a minute, go 500, and 3 legends moonwalk into their lap. Fuck off already. We are hoping for bradley fucking beal who isn't a legendary talent and won't ever be a legendary talent. He's great, but he aint holy shit great.
Where is that player? The only one I can think of is Leonard who likely wants to stay in stupid LA.
we just wont know who the player is until the offseason or even maybe next offseason..
Yeah, don’t mean to sound doom and gloom were still in a great place compared to the last 20. Just gotta wait and see. Wish I could be a fly on the wall and hear what rose, thibs and company are saying right now about the future of this team. What players they are targeting... you wonder.
Now they have to figure out how to improve the roster to beat playoff teams. Don't look for someone to blame. They're an improved team, they're just not good enough as is, which we all knew already.
yup next step is adding pieces this offseason and take another jump..
Nice to be in a situation now where it is about adding pieces to compete not 1 year deals to tank
Now they have to figure out how to improve the roster to beat playoff teams. Don't look for someone to blame. They're an improved team, they're just not good enough as is, which we all knew already.
They are ahead of schedule than anyone expected them to be.
This season is a surprise and has been a lot of fun.
This off-season will determine the future.
Do you package the 3 top picks they have to move up for one top player?
Do you extend Randle?
Resign Burks, Noel, Bullock, Rose, Etc?
Do you go after Lonzo and some mid range talent?
Do you go all in on a big trade in the off-season with the capital we have? (Can we shake free Mitchell?)
I for one am enjoying this season and look forward to seeing what they can do in the off season.
Luka - 13 pts - Q4
Brunson - 11 pts - Q4
Butler - 19 pts - 2nd half
Kyrie - 17 pts - 2nd half
Edwards - 17 pts - 2nd half
Frank could have helped to slow these guys down. I think our closing line up in a close game should be:
Burks
Frank
RJ
Randle
Gibson
Because Frank is one of the worst offensive players in the NBA. He can certainly help on defense but he absolutely kills you on the other end.
I like Frank and root for him but he is in his 4th year of the NBA and has zero offensive game. Its like having Gibson as a guard on an offense.
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They can't beat the surefire playoff teams without injuries or great 3PT shooting nights and that's the reality.
Now they have to figure out how to improve the roster to beat playoff teams. Don't look for someone to blame. They're an improved team, they're just not good enough as is, which we all knew already.
They are ahead of schedule than anyone expected them to be.
This season is a surprise and has been a lot of fun.
This off-season will determine the future.
Do you package the 3 top picks they have to move up for one top player?
Do you extend Randle?
Resign Burks, Noel, Bullock, Rose, Etc?
Do you go after Lonzo and some mid range talent?
Do you go all in on a big trade in the off-season with the capital we have? (Can we shake free Mitchell?)
I for one am enjoying this season and look forward to seeing what they can do in the off season.
Yes they extend Randle or at the very least they exercise that option year.
They will go big game hunting this off-season. Just unsure of which player(s)
It reminds me of when yanks won the World Series when free agency era really took off and they had arod, etc. I remember being so psyched during the first run in 96, 98, 99, 00, it was awesome and we loved those players, Jeter, Bernie, Brosiuus, O’Neil, Pettite, Rivera, Posada. I’m sure I am missing some, but those were guys that were true yankees. When they win in 09, I remember it wasn’t that exciting, obviously happy they won, but not the same.
I don’t mean this as a dig at nets fans, but really curious what the thoughts are
if 1 has supported the team as long as i have, then you have watched the franchise evolve and this team is every bit them, and a part of that evolution.
even this current team, which got rebuilt under a new GM after the biggest disaster (celtics trade) a franchise could endure. it started with a few picks and a change in style of play. culture evolved and players developed. then a few key decisions, and more savy picks/trades to get resources.
nobody cares about the nets if they dont become a fun to watch playoff team under kenny. nobody comes to the nets (KD/Kyrie) if they dont have an OK roster/good facility/willing owner- and good training and development staff.
Harden isnt acquired without having drafted and developed Levert and Allen.
the team can withstand injuries without finding Joe harris, Brown, and others. and all of this without dinwiddie.
so while optics might say this is some "bought team"- its bought because the franchise evolved from the Billy King depths- so there really is no angle that short changes it.
they even helped make harden buy in to being the most interesting guy to watch in the league- and Kyrie as well.
I think so too, but if the reported offer for Lonzo was real, I question how much they even want him.
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go as high as 22 per for Lonzo. He'd be a HUGE addition.
I think so too, but if the reported offer for Lonzo was real, I question how much they even want him.
Fair question. The Knicks have been very odd in their PG pursuits.
I've always wanted a PG like Ball here with the Knicks. Big, tall and does everything well, including defend. Those score first PGs that pick up assists are nice, but I want the pass first PG that might yield the same or even less assists than some other PGs, but he's running a more efficient or prolific offense.
It reminds me of when yanks won the World Series when free agency era really took off and they had arod, etc. I remember being so psyched during the first run in 96, 98, 99, 00, it was awesome and we loved those players, Jeter, Bernie, Brosiuus, O’Neil, Pettite, Rivera, Posada. I’m sure I am missing some, but those were guys that were true yankees. When they win in 09, I remember it wasn’t that exciting, obviously happy they won, but not the same.
I don’t mean this as a dig at nets fans, but really curious what the thoughts are
I'll take my swing at this as well. The players here right now are different but this roster was built from the day Marks arrived and the vision is mostly consistent with what he laid out from day 1, and to see that succeed would be enormously satisfying.
Spencer Dinwiddie would be a key starter if not for his injury, Marks found him in the D league in his first year. Same as he got Chiozza, TLC, and now Alize Johnson. And even further back net fans will remember Sean Kilpatrick.
Bruce Brown was a savvy trade pick up for a non lotto pick. He has carved out a really nice role for himself.
Nic Claxton was a 2nd round pick just last year. He too has carved out a nice role for himself.
Tyler Johnson was I believe 1 of the first FA targets Marks went after as GM even though he ended up taking a roundabout course to get here.
his first 2 non lotto picks Levert + Allen got them Harden.
Let's also not forget that Marks traded for DLo, resurrected him into a max player, and then traded him in a s&t for KD - obviously GS didn't make a basketball trade there but there is some symbolism. Point being a big reason why KD + Kyrie chose to sign here is that Sean Marks was doing a great job and they bought in on that.
So to me the answer to this question is sort of like asking a Pats fan how they'd feel if Belichek won a SB with Cam Newton and all the FA's they signed last month and I think the answer would be that it'd be just as gratifying and perhaps even more so to win one without Brady. They may not all be homegrown players from the draft but the win would still be a testament to the program and philosophy that Belichek has built there. The Nets winning would similarly validate everything Marks has done since Feb 2016. Big ticket FA's just bought into the Nets sooner than expected.
So while they were 100% fortunate to get 1 superstar wanting to be here let alone 3 it wasn't totally accidental that they were able to execute that. Marks had them in good position thanks to very good asset management.
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go as high as 22 per for Lonzo. He'd be a HUGE addition.
I've always wanted a PG like Ball here with the Knicks. Big, tall and does everything well, including defend. Those score first PGs that pick up assists are nice, but I want the pass first PG that might yield the same or even less assists than some other PGs, but he's running a more efficient or prolific offense.
He's an ascending player too. Not something the Knicks have been able to really add the last "few" years. Yeah, Randle sure as hell appears to be one but when they signed him it was more like a desperate Knicks signing (not at all knocking Randle or the Knicks) but the Knicks signing a young guy on the rise coming off a breakout year? Unheard of.
if winning championships was truly the #1 goal for Durant, he never would have left Golden State. As for Sean Marks, he did a very good job. But let's not pretend any of it mattered to Kyrie or Durant. It didn't matter to them if it was Sean Marks or Sean Penn running things.
I think we are going to a historic playoff run from this group, again assuming they are all healthy.
I just wonder if KD, AD, Harden, lebron, etc. Will need time to get back into the flow and for teams to gel.
I just wonder if KD, AD, Harden, lebron, etc. Will need time to get back into the flow and for teams to gel.
I agree. KD returns tomorrow though. If health wasn't an issue, it's Nets Lakers but who knows in this truncated season?
That's a shame. I wanted to beat Boston at full strength, :-)
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tomorrow vs the Knicks
That's a shame. I wanted to beat Boston at full strength, :-)
haha yeah i dont care, hopefully they lose tonight to Sixers..
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Some of these injuries are lingering on.
I just wonder if KD, AD, Harden, lebron, etc. Will need time to get back into the flow and for teams to gel.
I agree. KD returns tomorrow though. If health wasn't an issue, it's Nets Lakers but who knows in this truncated season?
Durant looked very good when he played earlier this season, but i wonder if he was compensating for that achilles because he still doesnt trust it
If Brooklyn is at full strength come playoffs, they're the prohibitive favorite in the East. Too much firepower. I'll be rooting like hell against them. And this 'Is Harden MVP?' talk is GTFO worthy. No way a man who left Houston like that deserves the MVP.
Luka
Zion
LaMelo
Mitchell
Tatum
Fox
Simmons
Booker
Bam
SGA
Ingram
Jaylen Brown
Murray
Porter Jr.
Ja
Trae
Mikal Bridges
Sabonis
Edwards
Ayton
Haliburton
John Collins
Jarrett Allen
Lonzo
Sexton
Just a quick snap thoughts...I'd put Tatum over LaMelo & Mitchell. Ja should be higher, Sabonis too. Ingram is too high.
If Brooklyn is at full strength come playoffs, they're the prohibitive favorite in the East. Too much firepower. I'll be rooting like hell against them. And this 'Is Harden MVP?' talk is GTFO worthy. No way a man who left Houston like that deserves the MVP.
There is a reason why players dont come back from achilles injuries in basketball..
It all deoends hoe they are reffed in thr playoffs, if a team likr the sixers are allowed tonplay physical they can beat them but if refs are goingnto call it tight forget about it
Luka
Zion
LaMelo
Mitchell
Tatum
Fox
Simmons
Booker
Bam
SGA
Ingram
Jaylen Brown
Murray
Porter Jr.
Ja
Trae
Mikal Bridges
Sabonis
Edwards
Ayton
Haliburton
John Collins
Jarrett Allen
Lonzo
Sexton
Just a quick snap thoughts...I'd put Tatum over LaMelo & Mitchell. Ja should be higher, Sabonis too. Ingram is too high.
No Rj? lol
Embarrassing. But, just looking @ LAL upcoming schedule, going to be tough without LBJ/AD. I so hope the Lakers fall into play-in tournament.
I also find it comical that Anthony Edwards is likely going to win ROY when his efficiency numbers are actually worse than Barrett's last year which was apparently the reason that guys like Terence Davis made the all-rookie team over him.
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ESPN released their top 25 under 25 players...
Luka
Zion
LaMelo
Mitchell
Tatum
Fox
Simmons
Booker
Bam
SGA
Ingram
Jaylen Brown
Murray
Porter Jr.
Ja
Trae
Mikal Bridges
Sabonis
Edwards
Ayton
Haliburton
John Collins
Jarrett Allen
Lonzo
Sexton
Just a quick snap thoughts...I'd put Tatum over LaMelo & Mitchell. Ja should be higher, Sabonis too. Ingram is too high.
No Rj? lol
First thing I thought as well. The most egregious guy on that list over him is Bridges, who is a 3-D guy and is barely under 25 years old.
On that list I would rather have Barrett than Edwards, Haliburton, Collins, Allen, and Sexton too. I mean especially Edwards, what has he shown at this point? He is shooting 39% from the field, and barely scoring more points per game than shots taken.
id rather save it for a younger more established player
I think Suggs is going 1 or 2. Seriously doubt he’s there at 3 or 4.
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Doubtful this is even an option. But would you move both 1st round picks and the 2022 NYK 1st to move up to 3 or 4 to draft Suggs?
id rather save it for a younger more established player
Totally get that but I'm just not sure what stars are breaking free. Even the logical candidates are mostly signed really long term or on really good teams.
Its definitely riskier but if you hit on one of these guys at the top of the draft you can still use your cap space going forward to fortify the roster. You would be low on picks but still have a cap room and you know the Knicks will have no problem paying the luxury tax.
Every mock and what I am hearing/ reading has Suggs going 3-5. But that can obviously change. I just think he is perfect for this team.
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In comment 15212323 TyreeHelmet said:
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Doubtful this is even an option. But would you move both 1st round picks and the 2022 NYK 1st to move up to 3 or 4 to draft Suggs?
id rather save it for a younger more established player
Totally get that but I'm just not sure what stars are breaking free. Even the logical candidates are mostly signed really long term or on really good teams.
Its definitely riskier but if you hit on one of these guys at the top of the draft you can still use your cap space going forward to fortify the roster. You would be low on picks but still have a cap room and you know the Knicks will have no problem paying the luxury tax.
Every mock and what I am hearing/ reading has Suggs going 3-5. But that can obviously change. I just think he is perfect for this team.
I just dont like giving up 3 1sts for a draft pick, no matter how good the player looks in college, and i think Suggs could be a beast..
I do think Beal will be available this offseason, Lavine could be traded if he doesnt sign an extension..There are going tk be guys we dont expect available
Nets make the worst fucking trade in NBA history and all but bankroll Boston's coffers, reset things for a minute, go 500, and 3 legends moonwalk into their lap. Fuck off already. We are hoping for bradley fucking beal who isn't a legendary talent and won't ever be a legendary talent. He's great, but he aint holy shit great.
Where is that player? The only one I can think of is Leonard who likely wants to stay in stupid LA.
Nets make the worst fucking trade in NBA history and all but bankroll Boston's coffers, reset things for a minute, go 500, and 3 legends moonwalk into their lap. Fuck off already. We are hoping for bradley fucking beal who isn't a legendary talent and won't ever be a legendary talent. He's great, but he aint holy shit great.
Where is that player? The only one I can think of is Leonard who likely wants to stay in stupid LA.
we just wont know who the player is until the offseason or even maybe next offseason..
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Doubtful this is even an option. But would you move both 1st round picks and the 2022 NYK 1st to move up to 3 or 4 to draft Suggs?
I think Suggs is going 1 or 2. Seriously doubt he’s there at 3 or 4.
Cunningham is easily going 1, Suggs is probably going 2
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next years team is:
Ball/rose
Beal/bullock
rj/burks
Randle
Mitch/noel/gibson
back up 4 a vet minimum or rookie you drafted
You trading IQ/Obi and picks for Beal?
Why WOULDNT you do that?
I would do it. I'm just wondering what his package would be.
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but only the Knicks would finally show signs of digging their way out of this decades long run of futility, possess TONS of cap room, plenty of draft capital and even a good group of good young NBA talent, and of course, there are no legendary dream team fuckers out there that want to form a big three. They are all in happy places. Of course they are.
Nets make the worst fucking trade in NBA history and all but bankroll Boston's coffers, reset things for a minute, go 500, and 3 legends moonwalk into their lap. Fuck off already. We are hoping for bradley fucking beal who isn't a legendary talent and won't ever be a legendary talent. He's great, but he aint holy shit great.
Where is that player? The only one I can think of is Leonard who likely wants to stay in stupid LA.
we just wont know who the player is until the offseason or even maybe next offseason..
Yeah, don’t mean to sound doom and gloom were still in a great place compared to the last 20. Just gotta wait and see. Wish I could be a fly on the wall and hear what rose, thibs and company are saying right now about the future of this team. What players they are targeting... you wonder.