But if you're drafting him to play Guard then I don't think the Giants pull the trigger. There are very good IOL players to be had in rounds 2 or 3 and the trade-off in talent vs either a 1st round pass catcher or edge isn't worth it.
if there are playmaking receivers available. And I realize we signed KG. But this receiver group had one of the worst rates of separation of all teams last year. KG alone will not fix that.
if there are playmaking receivers available. And I realize we signed KG. But this receiver group had one of the worst rates of separation of all teams last year. KG alone will not fix that.
But via a report put together by Brad Spielberger (PFF), the Giants have spent more draft capital on the OT position than the entire NFL over the last decade at 12.8%.
I like what he does a lot, but he uses a lot of the wrong terminology when trying to explain what he’s looking at. Again, I think he does a nice job overall just can be confusing at times. Like for example he says Slater does a nice job “sealing it off” when he isn’t sealing anything on one of the plays, he is the kick out blocker.
Also, has anyone else noticed that he swallows his words a lot? I know he’s not a polished professional with training, but it makes it harder to follow/distracting for me.
Not trying to be a negative Nancy here, I like him a lot, I just thought those two things were overly apparent in that breakdown.
But I don't want to draft Slater to play tackle when he can play guard and we need guard help and have Peart.
If you can identify young guys that can play Tackle in the NFL at a plus level, you are ahead of the pack in the NFL. This is arguably the most important position on the field sans QB.
If the grade on Slater is that much higher than what they had on Peart, then he’s worth it. He may not be the pick, but he should be highly considered.
There is an argument to be made that the single biggest downfall of the Giants in the past decade is because they have sucked at Offensive Tackle...
But via a report put together by Brad Spielberger (PFF), the Giants have spent more draft capital on the OT position than the entire NFL over the last decade at 12.8%.
Dg drafted Peart , Hernandez, Thomas, Lemiux and George A, Reese drafted Flowers, Hart less, Pugh Richburg, Brewer, Herman, Mccants, Petrus and Mosely. Can I say the drafting has improved.
But via a report put together by Brad Spielberger (PFF), the Giants have spent more draft capital on the OT position than the entire NFL over the last decade at 12.8%.
Dg drafted Peart , Hernandez, Thomas, Lemiux and George A, Reese drafted Flowers, Hart less, Pugh Richburg, Brewer, Herman, Mccants, Petrus and Mosely. Can I say the drafting has improved.
What...half of those guys weren’t OTs? And most of them didn’t need to be drafted anyway...
In comment 15210434 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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in about four different plays in that review....
I think Coughlin is going to make a huge leap this year. Him and Tae Crowder are super underrated.
Couldn’t agree more, those guys contributed a lot when they got their opportunities last year. I think the draft class last year has been underrated in general, especially the late picks.
AN 11th pick is not a 2nd pick in which the Giants took a RB. On toip of it- Nelson at 2 would have bene a super pick. Thsi stuff about dodn't take a gaurd at 11 is hogwash.
If he is the high man on the board - you take him.
I actually prefer it because I think Lemieux and Hernandez are weak. And many on here think Fulton is weak. If the guards are weak and more than likely the RT spot for this year is at best "ok" - imo there is no way Jones or Barkley will be effective even if they get "Smith."
**The Giants got their number 1 receiver.
**The Giants got Barkley back.
**The Giants have improved at Tight End.
** The defense was already okay without any of these current Edges and we have several OLB's coming back and picked up some better players and have a legit 2nd corner.
******For one of the worst offenses in all of football why RISK not giving your QB who seems to be a good enough accuracy thrower and game manager- and a RB who desperately needs limited defensive penetration?
If a WR is so desperate take one in rd 2 and then you potentially have a legit number 2 to help DG.
I understand if Slater is not high on their boards. But if he winds up good and the Giants offense remains anemic without team success- then someone high in the Front Office needs to pay.
I like what he does a lot, but he uses a lot of the wrong terminology when trying to explain what he’s looking at. Again, I think he does a nice job overall just can be confusing at times. Like for example he says Slater does a nice job “sealing it off” when he isn’t sealing anything on one of the plays, he is the kick out blocker.
Also, has anyone else noticed that he swallows his words a lot? I know he’s not a polished professional with training, but it makes it harder to follow/distracting for me.
Not trying to be a negative Nancy here, I like him a lot, I just thought those two things were overly apparent in that breakdown.
jesus dude, it's a quick yt video not some work of art.
I like what he does a lot, but he uses a lot of the wrong terminology when trying to explain what he’s looking at. Again, I think he does a nice job overall just can be confusing at times. Like for example he says Slater does a nice job “sealing it off” when he isn’t sealing anything on one of the plays, he is the kick out blocker.
Also, has anyone else noticed that he swallows his words a lot? I know he’s not a polished professional with training, but it makes it harder to follow/distracting for me.
Not trying to be a negative Nancy here, I like him a lot, I just thought those two things were overly apparent in that breakdown.
jesus dude, it's a quick yt video not some work of art.
You’re right, I’m being an overly critical dick, I just caught myself being distracted by it the entire time.
I’d have to imagine he’d like to do this stuff full time and make a living out of it, and if that’s the case he needs to clean it up a bit. You can’t go through tape praising someone for making a seal block when its not a seal block and expect to be taken seriously, it just reveals his ignorance. I think he does a nice job overall but some people here take his word as gospel and they shouldn’t.
Maybe he doesn’t want to do this as a pro and its just a hobby, in which case who cares. I enjoy his stuff, just take it with a grain of salt that’s all.
AN 11th pick is not a 2nd pick in which the Giants took a RB. On toip of it- Nelson at 2 would have bene a super pick. Thsi stuff about dodn't take a gaurd at 11 is hogwash.
If he is the high man on the board - you take him.
I actually prefer it because I think Lemieux and Hernandez are weak. And many on here think Fulton is weak. If the guards are weak and more than likely the RT spot for this year is at best "ok" - imo there is no way Jones or Barkley will be effective even if they get "Smith."
**The Giants got their number 1 receiver.
**The Giants got Barkley back.
**The Giants have improved at Tight End.
** The defense was already okay without any of these current Edges and we have several OLB's coming back and picked up some better players and have a legit 2nd corner.
******For one of the worst offenses in all of football why RISK not giving your QB who seems to be a good enough accuracy thrower and game manager- and a RB who desperately needs limited defensive penetration?
If a WR is so desperate take one in rd 2 and then you potentially have a legit number 2 to help DG.
I understand if Slater is not high on their boards. But if he winds up good and the Giants offense remains anemic without team success- then someone high in the Front Office needs to pay.
I'm with you 100% here across the board. Because I don't know how anybody can feel good about the state of this OL going into next year unless you are rubbing a rabbit's foot and crawling around the backyard hunting four leaf clovers.
For all of the so called "potential" the current OLs on the roster apparently have, I didn't see enough of it to sell me that we should feel good going forward...
If there is one thing that's becoming clearer and clearer as this modern football evolves it's you can NEVER have enough good OLs. It's becoming the hardest position to solve for...
But let's invest in another WR - after buying one for a gazillion dollars - when the WR position is becoming one of the easier positions to find solutions.
Unfortunately, according to all of the BBI insiders, Slater isn't a target.
At worst he’s in Pro Bowl Guard. He can guard for us next year, and if Peart sucks than he can shift to RT next season.
How do you know he will be a Pro Bowl guard?
Lol I like Slater alot myself but "At worst he's a Pro Bowl Guard." Is on a different level. No way he makes it to 11 if thats the case.
It’s all projection, but Slater is a guy that many people have as their No. 1 O-Line prospect in the draft. He’s a worst the 3rd best OL a prospect behind Sewell and Vera-Tucker.
if there are playmaking receivers available. And I realize we signed KG. But this receiver group had one of the worst rates of separation of all teams last year. KG alone will not fix that.
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Actually, to build an actually successful NFL franchise, you absolutely take the Pro-Bowl level OG with the 11th overall pick and worry about shiny hood ornaments later.
They got a lot of playing time as the season went on and held up well.
Are you suggesting there is a lot more here...what level can they reach?
The crowd on here that has been calling for Parsons at ILB or Edge at 11, including Phillips who is a concussion away from retirement.
The LB’s they drafted last year have some promise. I don’t care what round they were drafted in. I still feel this defense revolves around a strong secondary, strong D Line, a Mike QB’ing the D (Martinez) and a rotation of young, athletic OLB’s. This isn’t the 4-3 D Spagnuolo ran that required amazing pass rushing DE’s. The signings of Odenigbo and Anderson make me think Edge is not as high on the wish list as the smokescreens convey as we head into the draft. We’ll see what happens.
it better be to play tackle. If he is so talented that you draft him 11 he should start over the ? you took in the 3rd round, and we still draft a Guard in rd 3 or 4.
Picking him as a Tackle is a waste of resources when we just drafted a pair of Tackles last year. Slater is not a Guard IMHO and I believe that he'd have trouble anchoring on the inside. No doubt that he is a talented player, but at pick #11 I don't like the value anyhow. I am all for trading up if we have a conviction or trading down and getting better value. To stand pat and draft another OT doesn't sound like a good idea unless it's a guy like Sewell who you can put anywhere you need him. Slater is nowhere near that type of guy. Not long enough for OT and not strong enough for OG. Maybe he'd make a great Center, but I don't want him at 11
Picking him as a Tackle is a waste of resources when we just drafted a pair of Tackles last year. Slater is not a Guard IMHO and I believe that he'd have trouble anchoring on the inside. No doubt that he is a talented player, but at pick #11 I don't like the value anyhow. I am all for trading up if we have a conviction or trading down and getting better value. To stand pat and draft another OT doesn't sound like a good idea unless it's a guy like Sewell who you can put anywhere you need him. Slater is nowhere near that type of guy. Not long enough for OT and not strong enough for OG. Maybe he'd make a great Center, but I don't want him at 11
The guy just pumped up 33 reps at his Pro day. How is he not strong enough for Guard?
has nothing to do with stopping a bullrush. The guy is 305 with short arms. One of his weaknesses is anchoring against a bull rush. This problem would be magnified at Guard. He is light in the pants with narrow hips. He is no hog molly
I like what he does a lot, but he uses a lot of the wrong terminology when trying to explain what he’s looking at. Again, I think he does a nice job overall just can be confusing at times. Like for example he says Slater does a nice job “sealing it off” when he isn’t sealing anything on one of the plays, he is the kick out blocker.
Also, has anyone else noticed that he swallows his words a lot? I know he’s not a polished professional with training, but it makes it harder to follow/distracting for me.
Not trying to be a negative Nancy here, I like him a lot, I just thought those two things were overly apparent in that breakdown.
jesus dude, it's a quick yt video not some work of art.
You’re right, I’m being an overly critical dick, I just caught myself being distracted by it the entire time.
I’d have to imagine he’d like to do this stuff full time and make a living out of it, and if that’s the case he needs to clean it up a bit. You can’t go through tape praising someone for making a seal block when its not a seal block and expect to be taken seriously, it just reveals his ignorance. I think he does a nice job overall but some people here take his word as gospel and they shouldn’t.
Maybe he doesn’t want to do this as a pro and its just a hobby, in which case who cares. I enjoy his stuff, just take it with a grain of salt that’s all.
He does a lot of videos with excellent analysis, terminology or not. I mean, YouTube/podcasting is a hellish commitment. He's essentially flying solo and creates a lot of content, it's always interesting. He also has a good voice, not everyone does. I'm sure he gets sponsored by people, he has a growing audience, and that makes him a professional. I get that you probably get this - but he's juggling a lot.
That with such an unproven OL, that picking Slater at 11 would be even remotely controversial. This is not #1 overall and you have a top 20 player at a position that matches one of your highest needs.
But via a report put together by Brad Spielberger (PFF), the Giants have spent more draft capital on the OT position than the entire NFL over the last decade at 12.8%.
Strange stat. 5 starting OLs among 22 starting players is more than 20% of the roster. Even if you were to count special teams the OL constitutes more than 12.8% of the team. One could argue that more than 1 in 5 of your picks should be OL, as much as WR and TE combined.
But via a report put together by Brad Spielberger (PFF), the Giants have spent more draft capital on the OT position than the entire NFL over the last decade at 12.8%.
Strange stat. 5 starting OLs among 22 starting players is more than 20% of the roster. Even if you were to count special teams the OL constitutes more than 12.8% of the team. One could argue that more than 1 in 5 of your picks should be OL, as much as WR and TE combined.
If Waddle and or Smith are left on the board and we take Slater while a big WR goes to Philly the next pick we will be haunted for years. I actually think the Eagles trading to the pick right behind us puts way more pressure on us not to let a big time play maker go behind us for yet another OL.
Even if Peart does pan out, having a starting guard who can move to
If Waddle and or Smith are left on the board and we take Slater while a big WR goes to Philly the next pick we will be haunted for years. I actually think the Eagles trading to the pick right behind us puts way more pressure on us not to let a big time play maker go behind us for yet another OL.
That's what I'm afraid of too. If the NYG pass on Waddle if he's there at 11, then I can see the Eagles snapping him up at 12 and him turning into DeSean Jackson 2.0 against us.
If Waddle and or Smith are left on the board and we take Slater while a big WR goes to Philly the next pick we will be haunted for years. I actually think the Eagles trading to the pick right behind us puts way more pressure on us not to let a big time play maker go behind us for yet another OL.
So your taking a WR just to prevent the eagles from taking one?
As a die hard fan I’m surprised you have this take. The giants have not had a good offensive line since 2010. We have question marks across the board. If you can take a pro bowl tackle/guard at 11 overall after we just signed Kenny G you do that. You can’t maximize the weapons we have with this offensive line as it’s currently constructed. Hernandez has one year to prove something. Lemieux to me is nothing more than a backup guard. If you draft slater you now have 3 cost controlled players, 4 if you include Peart, along the offensive line for at least the next 3 seasons. That is a massive move. All the talk about getting DJ help and fans keep thinking it means a skill guy at 11. We can draft a WR in round 3 for depth. Look at the chiefs this season. Their line fell apart and they just went on a spending spree to resolve it. Slater at 11 to me is the pick. I love waddle and smith (smith slightly more) but I worry about longevity. At 11 I don’t want to swing for a potential home run. Give me the guy who is a sure fire lock snd that is slater. If Peart fails at right tackle in steps slater. He will be amazing in the screen game with saquon. Well have an athletic offensive line with movement skills. That’s how you win. Not to mention he can play all 5 positions
the last thing I want is a guy that we want to plug in as a guard but who is unhappy about it.
I think from some of the subtle comments on the board neither he nor Parsons are Giant choices (no matter how talented). I think Judge would prefer players that love football and didn't opt out (without a great reason).
I find in interesting that for years we hoped to get O-line help
at Tackle and at WR but everyone wants to waste what we have there by bringing in more players. I don't get it. Slater is a Tackle. We need interior O-linemen. Vera-Tucker is another guy who played OT for the most part. IMHO a guy who gets moved inside because he is short, with short arms is not going to work out unless the guy is able to stop a bull rush from a 330 pound DT.
I would look at converting a guy like Teven Jenkins to RG because he lacks the foot speed at T in pass pro but has all the size & strength needed to play inside plus he is as tenacious as Nick Gates. In my mock I traded down and chose Jenkins and G/C-Quinn Meinerz who plays the same way.
I think the guard vs tackle discussion is valid but very over blown. I am not worried at all by taking a guard that high. I’d happily spend #11 on a Martin or Nelson type player.
If Waddle and or Smith are left on the board and we take Slater while a big WR goes to Philly the next pick we will be haunted for years. I actually think the Eagles trading to the pick right behind us puts way more pressure on us not to let a big time play maker go behind us for yet another OL.
So your taking a WR just to prevent the eagles from taking one?
As a die hard fan I’m surprised you have this take. The giants have not had a good offensive line since 2010. We have question marks across the board. If you can take a pro bowl tackle/guard at 11 overall after we just signed Kenny G you do that. You can’t maximize the weapons we have with this offensive line as it’s currently constructed. Hernandez has one year to prove something. Lemieux to me is nothing more than a backup guard. If you draft slater you now have 3 cost controlled players, 4 if you include Peart, along the offensive line for at least the next 3 seasons. That is a massive move. All the talk about getting DJ help and fans keep thinking it means a skill guy at 11. We can draft a WR in round 3 for depth. Look at the chiefs this season. Their line fell apart and they just went on a spending spree to resolve it. Slater at 11 to me is the pick. I love waddle and smith (smith slightly more) but I worry about longevity. At 11 I don’t want to swing for a potential home run. Give me the guy who is a sure fire lock snd that is slater. If Peart fails at right tackle in steps slater. He will be amazing in the screen game with saquon. Well have an athletic offensive line with movement skills. That’s how you win. Not to mention he can play all 5 positions
Desaun Jackson comes to mind when I think of Waddle going tot he Eagles, so we can take a guard? Nope, can't do it. There will be very good guards available when pick in the 2nd round. Really good ones.
How do you know he will be a Pro Bowl guard?
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At worst he’s in Pro Bowl Guard. He can guard for us next year, and if Peart sucks than he can shift to RT next season.
How do you know he will be a Pro Bowl guard?
He’s a better prospect than Justin Pugh and Pugh at his peak was a Pro Bowl caliber guard.
I agree with this thinking as well.
Slater or Sewell if he slips past the Bengals. If not OL, then they could go WR to give him some more weapons.
Also, has anyone else noticed that he swallows his words a lot? I know he’s not a polished professional with training, but it makes it harder to follow/distracting for me.
Not trying to be a negative Nancy here, I like him a lot, I just thought those two things were overly apparent in that breakdown.
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At worst he’s in Pro Bowl Guard. He can guard for us next year, and if Peart sucks than he can shift to RT next season.
How do you know he will be a Pro Bowl guard?
Lol I like Slater alot myself but "At worst he's a Pro Bowl Guard." Is on a different level. No way he makes it to 11 if thats the case.
If you can identify young guys that can play Tackle in the NFL at a plus level, you are ahead of the pack in the NFL. This is arguably the most important position on the field sans QB.
If the grade on Slater is that much higher than what they had on Peart, then he’s worth it. He may not be the pick, but he should be highly considered.
There is an argument to be made that the single biggest downfall of the Giants in the past decade is because they have sucked at Offensive Tackle...
I think Coughlin is going to make a huge leap this year. Him and Tae Crowder are super underrated.
Are you suggesting there is a lot more here...what level can they reach?
Ideally Peart shows out at RT and if they take Slater he can be our Zack Martin. If Peart doesn't pan out, put Slater out there.
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But via a report put together by Brad Spielberger (PFF), the Giants have spent more draft capital on the OT position than the entire NFL over the last decade at 12.8%.
Dg drafted Peart , Hernandez, Thomas, Lemiux and George A, Reese drafted Flowers, Hart less, Pugh Richburg, Brewer, Herman, Mccants, Petrus and Mosely. Can I say the drafting has improved.
What...half of those guys weren’t OTs? And most of them didn’t need to be drafted anyway...
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in about four different plays in that review....
I think Coughlin is going to make a huge leap this year. Him and Tae Crowder are super underrated.
Couldn’t agree more, those guys contributed a lot when they got their opportunities last year. I think the draft class last year has been underrated in general, especially the late picks.
If he is the high man on the board - you take him.
I actually prefer it because I think Lemieux and Hernandez are weak. And many on here think Fulton is weak. If the guards are weak and more than likely the RT spot for this year is at best "ok" - imo there is no way Jones or Barkley will be effective even if they get "Smith."
**The Giants got their number 1 receiver.
**The Giants got Barkley back.
**The Giants have improved at Tight End.
** The defense was already okay without any of these current Edges and we have several OLB's coming back and picked up some better players and have a legit 2nd corner.
******For one of the worst offenses in all of football why RISK not giving your QB who seems to be a good enough accuracy thrower and game manager- and a RB who desperately needs limited defensive penetration?
If a WR is so desperate take one in rd 2 and then you potentially have a legit number 2 to help DG.
I understand if Slater is not high on their boards. But if he winds up good and the Giants offense remains anemic without team success- then someone high in the Front Office needs to pay.
Also, has anyone else noticed that he swallows his words a lot? I know he’s not a polished professional with training, but it makes it harder to follow/distracting for me.
Not trying to be a negative Nancy here, I like him a lot, I just thought those two things were overly apparent in that breakdown.
jesus dude, it's a quick yt video not some work of art.
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I like what he does a lot, but he uses a lot of the wrong terminology when trying to explain what he’s looking at. Again, I think he does a nice job overall just can be confusing at times. Like for example he says Slater does a nice job “sealing it off” when he isn’t sealing anything on one of the plays, he is the kick out blocker.
Also, has anyone else noticed that he swallows his words a lot? I know he’s not a polished professional with training, but it makes it harder to follow/distracting for me.
Not trying to be a negative Nancy here, I like him a lot, I just thought those two things were overly apparent in that breakdown.
jesus dude, it's a quick yt video not some work of art.
You’re right, I’m being an overly critical dick, I just caught myself being distracted by it the entire time.
I’d have to imagine he’d like to do this stuff full time and make a living out of it, and if that’s the case he needs to clean it up a bit. You can’t go through tape praising someone for making a seal block when its not a seal block and expect to be taken seriously, it just reveals his ignorance. I think he does a nice job overall but some people here take his word as gospel and they shouldn’t.
Maybe he doesn’t want to do this as a pro and its just a hobby, in which case who cares. I enjoy his stuff, just take it with a grain of salt that’s all.
If he is the high man on the board - you take him.
I actually prefer it because I think Lemieux and Hernandez are weak. And many on here think Fulton is weak. If the guards are weak and more than likely the RT spot for this year is at best "ok" - imo there is no way Jones or Barkley will be effective even if they get "Smith."
**The Giants got their number 1 receiver.
**The Giants got Barkley back.
**The Giants have improved at Tight End.
** The defense was already okay without any of these current Edges and we have several OLB's coming back and picked up some better players and have a legit 2nd corner.
******For one of the worst offenses in all of football why RISK not giving your QB who seems to be a good enough accuracy thrower and game manager- and a RB who desperately needs limited defensive penetration?
If a WR is so desperate take one in rd 2 and then you potentially have a legit number 2 to help DG.
I understand if Slater is not high on their boards. But if he winds up good and the Giants offense remains anemic without team success- then someone high in the Front Office needs to pay.
I'm with you 100% here across the board. Because I don't know how anybody can feel good about the state of this OL going into next year unless you are rubbing a rabbit's foot and crawling around the backyard hunting four leaf clovers.
For all of the so called "potential" the current OLs on the roster apparently have, I didn't see enough of it to sell me that we should feel good going forward...
If there is one thing that's becoming clearer and clearer as this modern football evolves it's you can NEVER have enough good OLs. It's becoming the hardest position to solve for...
But let's invest in another WR - after buying one for a gazillion dollars - when the WR position is becoming one of the easier positions to find solutions.
Unfortunately, according to all of the BBI insiders, Slater isn't a target.
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At worst he’s in Pro Bowl Guard. He can guard for us next year, and if Peart sucks than he can shift to RT next season.
How do you know he will be a Pro Bowl guard?
Lol I like Slater alot myself but "At worst he's a Pro Bowl Guard." Is on a different level. No way he makes it to 11 if thats the case.
It’s all projection, but Slater is a guy that many people have as their No. 1 O-Line prospect in the draft. He’s a worst the 3rd best OL a prospect behind Sewell and Vera-Tucker.
Actually, to build an actually successful NFL franchise, you absolutely take the Pro-Bowl level OG with the 11th overall pick and worry about shiny hood ornaments later.
Are you suggesting there is a lot more here...what level can they reach?
The crowd on here that has been calling for Parsons at ILB or Edge at 11, including Phillips who is a concussion away from retirement.
The LB’s they drafted last year have some promise. I don’t care what round they were drafted in. I still feel this defense revolves around a strong secondary, strong D Line, a Mike QB’ing the D (Martinez) and a rotation of young, athletic OLB’s. This isn’t the 4-3 D Spagnuolo ran that required amazing pass rushing DE’s. The signings of Odenigbo and Anderson make me think Edge is not as high on the wish list as the smokescreens convey as we head into the draft. We’ll see what happens.
No, just a fan
The guy just pumped up 33 reps at his Pro day. How is he not strong enough for Guard?
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I like what he does a lot, but he uses a lot of the wrong terminology when trying to explain what he’s looking at. Again, I think he does a nice job overall just can be confusing at times. Like for example he says Slater does a nice job “sealing it off” when he isn’t sealing anything on one of the plays, he is the kick out blocker.
Also, has anyone else noticed that he swallows his words a lot? I know he’s not a polished professional with training, but it makes it harder to follow/distracting for me.
Not trying to be a negative Nancy here, I like him a lot, I just thought those two things were overly apparent in that breakdown.
jesus dude, it's a quick yt video not some work of art.
You’re right, I’m being an overly critical dick, I just caught myself being distracted by it the entire time.
I’d have to imagine he’d like to do this stuff full time and make a living out of it, and if that’s the case he needs to clean it up a bit. You can’t go through tape praising someone for making a seal block when its not a seal block and expect to be taken seriously, it just reveals his ignorance. I think he does a nice job overall but some people here take his word as gospel and they shouldn’t.
Maybe he doesn’t want to do this as a pro and its just a hobby, in which case who cares. I enjoy his stuff, just take it with a grain of salt that’s all.
He does a lot of videos with excellent analysis, terminology or not. I mean, YouTube/podcasting is a hellish commitment. He's essentially flying solo and creates a lot of content, it's always interesting. He also has a good voice, not everyone does. I'm sure he gets sponsored by people, he has a growing audience, and that makes him a professional. I get that you probably get this - but he's juggling a lot.
Strange stat. 5 starting OLs among 22 starting players is more than 20% of the roster. Even if you were to count special teams the OL constitutes more than 12.8% of the team. One could argue that more than 1 in 5 of your picks should be OL, as much as WR and TE combined.
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But via a report put together by Brad Spielberger (PFF), the Giants have spent more draft capital on the OT position than the entire NFL over the last decade at 12.8%.
Strange stat. 5 starting OLs among 22 starting players is more than 20% of the roster. Even if you were to count special teams the OL constitutes more than 12.8% of the team. One could argue that more than 1 in 5 of your picks should be OL, as much as WR and TE combined.
Nm, I see it was OT, not OL
That's what I'm afraid of too. If the NYG pass on Waddle if he's there at 11, then I can see the Eagles snapping him up at 12 and him turning into DeSean Jackson 2.0 against us.
So your taking a WR just to prevent the eagles from taking one?
As a die hard fan I’m surprised you have this take. The giants have not had a good offensive line since 2010. We have question marks across the board. If you can take a pro bowl tackle/guard at 11 overall after we just signed Kenny G you do that. You can’t maximize the weapons we have with this offensive line as it’s currently constructed. Hernandez has one year to prove something. Lemieux to me is nothing more than a backup guard. If you draft slater you now have 3 cost controlled players, 4 if you include Peart, along the offensive line for at least the next 3 seasons. That is a massive move. All the talk about getting DJ help and fans keep thinking it means a skill guy at 11. We can draft a WR in round 3 for depth. Look at the chiefs this season. Their line fell apart and they just went on a spending spree to resolve it. Slater at 11 to me is the pick. I love waddle and smith (smith slightly more) but I worry about longevity. At 11 I don’t want to swing for a potential home run. Give me the guy who is a sure fire lock snd that is slater. If Peart fails at right tackle in steps slater. He will be amazing in the screen game with saquon. Well have an athletic offensive line with movement skills. That’s how you win. Not to mention he can play all 5 positions
I think from some of the subtle comments on the board neither he nor Parsons are Giant choices (no matter how talented). I think Judge would prefer players that love football and didn't opt out (without a great reason).
I would look at converting a guy like Teven Jenkins to RG because he lacks the foot speed at T in pass pro but has all the size & strength needed to play inside plus he is as tenacious as Nick Gates. In my mock I traded down and chose Jenkins and G/C-Quinn Meinerz who plays the same way.
Thomas-Meinerz-Gates-Jenkins-Peart
This line would be a dream come true IMHO
You're not betting your mortgage that what you saw out of Peart last season means he's the guy for the next 5 years.
I don't see why we're in the business of just handing people jobs with no competition. He didn't exactly finish the season strong.
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If Waddle and or Smith are left on the board and we take Slater while a big WR goes to Philly the next pick we will be haunted for years. I actually think the Eagles trading to the pick right behind us puts way more pressure on us not to let a big time play maker go behind us for yet another OL.
So your taking a WR just to prevent the eagles from taking one?
As a die hard fan I’m surprised you have this take. The giants have not had a good offensive line since 2010. We have question marks across the board. If you can take a pro bowl tackle/guard at 11 overall after we just signed Kenny G you do that. You can’t maximize the weapons we have with this offensive line as it’s currently constructed. Hernandez has one year to prove something. Lemieux to me is nothing more than a backup guard. If you draft slater you now have 3 cost controlled players, 4 if you include Peart, along the offensive line for at least the next 3 seasons. That is a massive move. All the talk about getting DJ help and fans keep thinking it means a skill guy at 11. We can draft a WR in round 3 for depth. Look at the chiefs this season. Their line fell apart and they just went on a spending spree to resolve it. Slater at 11 to me is the pick. I love waddle and smith (smith slightly more) but I worry about longevity. At 11 I don’t want to swing for a potential home run. Give me the guy who is a sure fire lock snd that is slater. If Peart fails at right tackle in steps slater. He will be amazing in the screen game with saquon. Well have an athletic offensive line with movement skills. That’s how you win. Not to mention he can play all 5 positions