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Quick Overview of Free Agents Signed by Giants

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/6/2021 9:56 am
Of the 20 players signed or re-signed by the Giants this offseason, "only" three really received huge deals:

DE Leonard Williams (Re-Signed by Giants; 3-Years, $63 million)
WR Kenny Golladay (Signed by Giants; 4-Years, $72 million)
CB Adoree’ Jackson (Signed by Giants; 3-Years, $39 million)

Four other players received contracts somewhere between minimum-type deals and "big" deals:

NT Austin Johnson (Re-Signed by Giants; 1-Year, $3 million)
RB Devontae Booker (Signed by Giants; 2-Years, $5.5 million)
DL/LB Ifeadi Odenigbo (Signed by Giants; 1-Year, $2.5 million)
TE Kyle Rudolph (Signed by Giants; 2-Years, $12 million)

The other 13 players received 1-year deals ranging from $660,000 to $1,843,750 (see details in link below).

Right or wrong, much of the "fuss" over the Giants spending spree really is about only THREE players. But those three players account for $174 million.


New York Giants 2021 Free Agency Scorecard - ( New Window )
Stars and scrubs  
US1 Giants : 4/6/2021 9:57 am : link
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Will cap hits of only what...  
Carl in CT : 4/6/2021 10:00 am : link
$11m, $6.1m and $4.4m ? Something like that. Good job there if the CAP bounces back up next year.
Been reading many things  
Harvest Blend : 4/6/2021 10:00 am : link
where the Giants are being outright trashed for the Jackson signing.

Probably just people piggybacking on the original story by the "unnamed exec", but still....
RE: Stars and scrubs  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/6/2021 10:00 am : link
In comment 15211006 US1 Giants said:
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I wouldn't go quite that far, John Ross, Reggie Ragland, Ryan Anderson, Zach Fulton, and Danny Shelton may be much more than a "scrub"... some of those guys very well could be starters.
Next year we might have a  
Carl in CT : 4/6/2021 10:05 am : link
Tough CAP year. In 2023 I think we only have 15 players under contract.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/6/2021 10:07 am : link
I think Rudolph is going to help DJ out a lot.
I think Rudolph is going to show  
Carl in CT : 4/6/2021 10:10 am : link
Engram what it means to be a professional and what work is needed. For those in the know that’s been Engrams problem. Not working on his craft enough. Not always running the right pattern and lack of concentration.
I  
AcidTest : 4/6/2021 10:11 am : link
would have preferred not to sign Golladay, Jackson, Booker, or Rudolph. It is better to build through the draft that sign big name free agents. Signing big name free agents is usually proof that a team is not drafting well.

Gettleman has blown a bazillion draft picks on CBs, which is why both our starting CBs are FAs. He has also drafted just two skill position players (Barkley and Slayton) in three drafts, so it is no surprise that Jones does not have many weapons. He traded a fourth and a sixth for Ogletree, and used another fourth on Lauletta, who had zero chance of ever succeeding Eli. He constantly trades up, never down.

His FA acquisitions include grossly overpaying for Solder and Stewart. He also signed and then quickly cut Omameh.
RE: RE: Stars and scrubs  
Rjanyg : 4/6/2021 10:11 am : link
In comment 15211009 Eric from BBI said:
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I wouldn't go quite that far, John Ross, Reggie Ragland, Ryan Anderson, Zach Fulton, and Danny Shelton may be much more than a "scrub"... some of those guys very well could be starters.


I have been a Gettlemen apologist in the past so seeing this haul of free agents makes me happy. I am sure Judge had something to do with it all but there are a few of those one year deal guys that will be a part of the success of this team in 2021. Its like having a bunch of Kavika Mitchell signings IMO.
And of those 3...only Adoree’ Jackson might be questioned  
George from PA : 4/6/2021 10:14 am : link
Williams was a no brainer...as the best player on the defense.

Golladay was best WR in FA....a true #1 and exactly what they needed.

Now....one can argue being in this position to needing to sign both...but that is really a different argument
RE: I think Rudolph is going to show  
Tuckrule : 4/6/2021 10:19 am : link
In comment 15211017 Carl in CT said:
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Engram what it means to be a professional and what work is needed. For those in the know that’s been Engrams problem. Not working on his craft enough. Not always running the right pattern and lack of concentration.


Is this for real. It’s the exact opposite. He’s one of the first guys in last guys out. He’s an extremely hard worker. Unfortunately hard work needs to be combined with natural talent and that’s where he falls short. As far as work ethic, he’s right up there among the best on the team. This has been documented by Pat Traina among others
Engram's issue looks like confidence to me  
JonC : 4/6/2021 10:23 am : link
The physical gifts are apparent, but the drops (and tips) are killers, and you can see his confidence waver in his body language.
RE: Engram's issue looks like confidence to me  
McNally's_Nuts : 4/6/2021 10:34 am : link
In comment 15211039 JonC said:
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The physical gifts are apparent, but the drops (and tips) are killers, and you can see his confidence waver in his body language.


That and it seems like if he isn't involved early, he gets lost in the shuffle.
Throttled back Optimism  
SgtDog : 4/6/2021 10:50 am : link
Big money for several free agents who could not play the end of last season because of injuries now we are getting ready to pick the 11th player in the draft and there is a good chance he did not play last year. On the bright side they should be well rested.
RE: Engram's issue looks like confidence to me  
Big Blue '56 : 4/6/2021 11:04 am : link
In comment 15211039 JonC said:
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The physical gifts are apparent, but the drops (and tips) are killers, and you can see his confidence waver in his body language.


Yeah, hope it doesn’t turn into a full blown Chuck Knoblach syndrome
You can't disagree with the critics  
rasbutant : 4/6/2021 11:12 am : link
Adoree’ Jackson was probably an overpay. But they got the guy they wanted. Just have to now hope he stays healthy and proves them right.

I can say its an overpay and still love the deal. A lot of times in FA you have to overpay, and then the next year it looks like a steal of deal....or it looks like Nate Solder contract.
Giants are paying almost as much for Jackson and they paid for  
Ivan15 : 4/6/2021 11:13 am : link
Bradberry (disregarding cap, just average pay) but Jackson isn’t close to being the shutdown corner Bradberry is. From what I saw, Jackson isn’t a press coverage guy so Giants will have to be careful how they use him.

They probably overpaid for the 5 top guys (Rudolph and Booker included among the 5) and tied up an extra $10-15 million by doing that. All okay if it gets them to the playoffs for the next few years with a shot at the Super Bowl.

I really like the next tier of guys as contributors who fit in - not JAGs.
Yeah, I'd say Engrams issue isn't being a Professional  
Dinger : 4/6/2021 12:17 pm : link
I think he's been quite professional. He works hard, says the right things in the interviews and would have to be a decent locker room presence or he's have been gone. He has NOT hang dogged it when he makes a blunder and he doesn't overly showboat (peeing on a goalpost anyone). He does seem to LACK concentration with his pass catching abilities. Maybe Rudolph can teach him a few 'tricks' around that?

And for the 3 big players signed you can argue ALL are critical for success, all were positions in need (if we had not signed LW we'd have been sorely in need) and all are positions that are important in JJ scheme. The one signing I will be most interested in is our RB Booker. Can he be the backup/blocking & Catching RB we've been missing for a few years?
RE: Giants are paying almost as much for Jackson and they paid for  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/6/2021 12:29 pm : link
In comment 15211125 Ivan15 said:
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Bradberry (disregarding cap, just average pay) but Jackson isn’t close to being the shutdown corner Bradberry is. From what I saw, Jackson isn’t a press coverage guy so Giants will have to be careful how they use him.

They probably overpaid for the 5 top guys (Rudolph and Booker included among the 5) and tied up an extra $10-15 million by doing that. All okay if it gets them to the playoffs for the next few years with a shot at the Super Bowl.

I really like the next tier of guys as contributors who fit in - not JAGs.


I don't recall people calling Bradberry a "shutdown" corner until AFTER the 2020 season.

In fact, one of the most common "worry" threads during training camp last year was, "Why is Bradberry getting burned so much in practice?"
RE: I think Rudolph is going to show  
Dr. D : 4/6/2021 12:30 pm : link
In comment 15211017 Carl in CT said:
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Engram what it means to be a professional and what work is needed. For those in the know that’s been Engrams problem. Not working on his craft enough. Not always running the right pattern and lack of concentration.

This doesn't really jive with JJ's positive comments about Engram. I don't think JJ would tolerate, nevermind comment positively about Engram if he wasn't "working on his craft enough", especially with the horrendous results we saw.
RE: RE: RE: Stars and scrubs  
eric2425ny : 4/6/2021 2:49 pm : link
In comment 15211021 Rjanyg said:
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I wouldn't go quite that far, John Ross, Reggie Ragland, Ryan Anderson, Zach Fulton, and Danny Shelton may be much more than a "scrub"... some of those guys very well could be starters.



I have been a Gettlemen apologist in the past so seeing this haul of free agents makes me happy. I am sure Judge had something to do with it all but there are a few of those one year deal guys that will be a part of the success of this team in 2021. Its like having a bunch of Kavika Mitchell signings IMO.


This. I can easily see a few of these one year players getting re-signed on a 2-3 year deal if they play well in 2021. There’s a reason 4 of those 5 players referenced were former 1st and 2nd round picks. Sometimes a change of scenery makes a big difference for a player.
RE: RE: Giants are paying almost as much for Jackson and they paid for  
JoeyBigBlue : 4/6/2021 2:53 pm : link
In comment 15211249 Eric from BBI said:
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Bradberry (disregarding cap, just average pay) but Jackson isn’t close to being the shutdown corner Bradberry is. From what I saw, Jackson isn’t a press coverage guy so Giants will have to be careful how they use him.

They probably overpaid for the 5 top guys (Rudolph and Booker included among the 5) and tied up an extra $10-15 million by doing that. All okay if it gets them to the playoffs for the next few years with a shot at the Super Bowl.

I really like the next tier of guys as contributors who fit in - not JAGs.



I don't recall people calling Bradberry a "shutdown" corner until AFTER the 2020 season.

In fact, one of the most common "worry" threads during training camp last year was, "Why is Bradberry getting burned so much in practice?"



Bradberry was the undisputed Number 1 corner on the Panthers in 2019 and he matched up favorably against Julio Jones, Michael Thomas, and Mike Evans. He held his own in those matchups. Does Jackson have that type of highlight reel? Absolutely not. An overpay for sure.
It was an awesome FA for the Giants  
BillT : 4/6/2021 9:37 pm : link
Tremendous acquisitions that accomplished almost everything we could have wanted. And out of the blue for a team that was supposedly in “cap hell”. DJ, Abrams schooled them all.
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