So at 30 seconds we have the play where Barkley takes it 7ish yards to the house against the Jaguars, off a great juke move. We've seen that play like a million times.
But the next play shown at 50 seconds, Barkley takes a little flare out pass, makes one move (an absurdly effective side step), then goes north-south and emphatically runs over a guy for the first down! I hope Barkley 2.0 will do this too! I love the break it outside 70 yard TD run but I also love tough inside punishing runs.
I really hope for everyone’s sake that he gets healthy and stays healthy, even if he’s only 90% of what he used to be.
Also, Eric posted a video the other day of his favorite run in Giant history, Hampton off of the right. It inspired me to go back and watch Bradshaw’s. highlights. As much as I love Barkley I don’t think there was ever a pound for pound tougher runner back than 44. He was so much fun to watch.
that tap dances or shies away from contact in this reel.
Thats because it's a highlight film. You can make another 10 minute video of his TFL's.
Barkley is exciting to watch but needs to get the dirty yards too. That is how you win games. Hope he can do it.
He averaged 5.0 yards per carry. Give me that. Let's understand what an average is. That highlight film is about 4 years of highlights for most "good" running backs. This is a cross between Gayle Sayers and Eric Dickerson and some ppl still don't respect his game. You're watching one of the best ever to do it.
Watch this man's comeback this year. It's a privilege we get to witness him. May the football gods keep him healthy this year, bc he's going to do special things.
And if this team adds Waddle, and has to command two deep safeties, watch tf out. It's going to be sick.
Seriously, I'm on board for this. If this draft goes the way I think it will go, this is going to be a fun ride.
but that said, there were a shitload of highlights. I had forgotten how fast he is. Let's see what he's got left and hope he stays healthy and that his head is screwed on ok after a serious injury
that tap dances or shies away from contact in this reel.
That’s because he doesn’t do that.
BB I seems to think but if you lower your shoulder you will get dirty yards.
If there’s no crease there’s no dirty yards.
Barkley needs to work on picking up pass blocks outside of that he just needs to be healthy.
that tap dances or shies away from contact in this reel.
That’s because he doesn’t do that.
BB I seems to think but if you lower your shoulder you will get dirty yards.
If there’s no crease there’s no dirty yards.
Barkley needs to work on picking up pass blocks outside of that he just needs to be healthy.
Did you notice when Gallman took over the TFL's stopped ? Barkley's first move is to STOP RUNNING when he gets ball. That needs to end and he needs to block too. Great talent but why is 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 an automatic pass play for Giants now ? Do Giants need to add another RB for short yardage and blocking ? I believe they do. Barkley is a HR threat but not the complete RB we thought we were getting.
that tap dances or shies away from contact in this reel.
That’s because he doesn’t do that.
BB I seems to think but if you lower your shoulder you will get dirty yards.
If there’s no crease there’s no dirty yards.
Barkley needs to work on picking up pass blocks outside of that he just needs to be healthy.
Did you notice when Gallman took over the TFL's stopped ? Barkley's first move is to STOP RUNNING when he gets ball. That needs to end and he needs to block too. Great talent but why is 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 an automatic pass play for Giants now ? Do Giants need to add another RB for short yardage and blocking ? I believe they do. Barkley is a HR threat but not the complete RB we thought we were getting.
Come on, the OL gelling had something to do with that as well. Its not like the run game suddenly came to life when Barkley went down.
that tap dances or shies away from contact in this reel.
That’s because he doesn’t do that.
BB I seems to think but if you lower your shoulder you will get dirty yards.
If there’s no crease there’s no dirty yards.
Barkley needs to work on picking up pass blocks outside of that he just needs to be healthy.
Did you notice when Gallman took over the TFL's stopped ? Barkley's first move is to STOP RUNNING when he gets ball. That needs to end and he needs to block too. Great talent but why is 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 an automatic pass play for Giants now ? Do Giants need to add another RB for short yardage and blocking ? I believe they do. Barkley is a HR threat but not the complete RB we thought we were getting.
Coincidentally, the OLine was re-shuffled and improved (and developed) at the same time.
We all love his homerun/big play ability, nobody questions that.
How about this quote by Tiki Barber last September, before Barkley got hurt?
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There is no denying Barkley struggled in pass protection. Pro Football Focus gave him a pass blocking grade of 25.5, which ranked him 69th of 76 eligible running backs in Week One.
“He might not be an every-down back,” Barber said on his CBS Sports Radio show. “He cannot pass protect, and it is starting to become glaring. It was probably the only issue he had to deal with coming into the NFL. He wasn’t asked to do it at Penn State. And you see him diving on the ground, not sticking his head in people’s chests. It’s gonna be a liability, because people see it now, it’s on tape, and it’s gonna come out.”
This is the problem. It's some of the same reason Gallman is unemployed right now. You MUST pass block in the NFL or its Not For Long. I'm not trying to be a d#ck about Barkley but that's the reality playing pro football.
I'm OK with him being a finesse back - he's an elite finesse back.
But I think it's a huge hurdle he must overcome - he wasn't a good pass blocker when he was healthy, and now he has to be good at it coming off a major knee injury.
We'll see. If he can figure it out, he's an elite RB.
...I would say that while it is highly preferred, Barkley does not have to be a good pass blocker in order to keep his job as RB1.
If there is something that an OC can scheme around, it is who the extra blocker might be on pass plays with a RB in the game.
The RB can chip to the flat, keep a TE in and slant the OL responsibilities away, roll out, play action.
I would love for Barkley to block like Clinton Portis, but he doesn't have to.
might have a huge impact. For Barkley, I think it's overstating it to say his putative inability to block will hinder his overall success as a feature back. Yeah, I get that it's important, but on balance....
Besides, I think you'll find that an improving, developing OLine plus a blocking TE will compensate for much of any shortfall Barkley wold have in blocking.
At this point, I'm not sure that people aren't just looking for something to piss about.
people want Gallman back despite his pass blocking
just because of "hard yards"? Give me a break. You can not like the Barkley pick and still be somewhat honest in this discussion.
Barkley hasn't yet ran behind even a marginal OL - its always been bad or awful. He's lined up with a TE who isn't a plus blocker. He's lined up with a statue at QB and then a rookie. Its been a constant uphill battle, and he's juggling being the HR threat on offense with staying honest and doing the dirty work too - it isn't simple.
I think its reasonable to assume his pass blocking will grade out better if the team also improves. Rudolph should help, along with the growth of the OL.
people want Gallman back despite his pass blocking
just because of "hard yards"? Give me a break. You can not like the Barkley pick and still be somewhat honest in this discussion.
Barkley hasn't yet ran behind even a marginal OL - its always been bad or awful. He's lined up with a TE who isn't a plus blocker. He's lined up with a statue at QB and then a rookie. Its been a constant uphill battle, and he's juggling being the HR threat on offense with staying honest and doing the dirty work too - it isn't simple.
I think its reasonable to assume his pass blocking will grade out better if the team also improves. Rudolph should help, along with the growth of the OL.
You seem him do things in that video that, highlight or not, very few if any others can do.
As far as hard yards, I see him get at least an extra three or four yards after seemingly being tackled on a lot of plays. You also see him near the goal line lower his shoulder and fire straight ahead like a missile. He's a smart player. He knows when to go down and when to go extra.
Note how Shurmur was regularly reducing SB’s touches in the second halves of tight contested games.
SB does not do what winning RBs do. He is not the best HB in the NFL - anyone posting that is just being a homer. Watch real top level HBs play, like Elliott and Derrick Henry, and see how they are invariably producing positive yardage. The real argument is whether SB is a Top 5 HB in the league. My opinion is probably but he is a young player who, despite the magic he sporadically produces, really needs to work on aspects of his game.
and always going against the grain doesn't make your points interesting. Barkley needs to block better but other than that he's a plus in every category.
You mention Elliott - well, can you name the OL and TE's he's played with? Ever wonder what the 2 RB's would do if they switched teams?
RE: I don’t believe SB helps the Giants win football games.
Let’s hope he can still be that good
But the next play shown at 50 seconds, Barkley takes a little flare out pass, makes one move (an absurdly effective side step), then goes north-south and emphatically runs over a guy for the first down! I hope Barkley 2.0 will do this too! I love the break it outside 70 yard TD run but I also love tough inside punishing runs.
Also, Eric posted a video the other day of his favorite run in Giant history, Hampton off of the right. It inspired me to go back and watch Bradshaw’s. highlights. As much as I love Barkley I don’t think there was ever a pound for pound tougher runner back than 44. He was so much fun to watch.
Thats because it's a highlight film. You can make another 10 minute video of his TFL's.
Barkley is exciting to watch but needs to get the dirty yards too. That is how you win games. Hope he can do it.
Thats because it's a highlight film. You can make another 10 minute video of his TFL's.
Barkley is exciting to watch but needs to get the dirty yards too. That is how you win games. Hope he can do it.
Maybe someone will superimpose the scoreboard or current record on each clip!
Get well Barkley.
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that tap dances or shies away from contact in this reel.
Thats because it's a highlight film. You can make another 10 minute video of his TFL's.
Barkley is exciting to watch but needs to get the dirty yards too. That is how you win games. Hope he can do it.
He averaged 5.0 yards per carry. Give me that. Let's understand what an average is. That highlight film is about 4 years of highlights for most "good" running backs. This is a cross between Gayle Sayers and Eric Dickerson and some ppl still don't respect his game. You're watching one of the best ever to do it.
Watch this man's comeback this year. It's a privilege we get to witness him. May the football gods keep him healthy this year, bc he's going to do special things.
And if this team adds Waddle, and has to command two deep safeties, watch tf out. It's going to be sick.
Seriously, I'm on board for this. If this draft goes the way I think it will go, this is going to be a fun ride.
Rehab workout - ( New Window )
That’s because he doesn’t do that.
BB I seems to think but if you lower your shoulder you will get dirty yards.
If there’s no crease there’s no dirty yards.
Barkley needs to work on picking up pass blocks outside of that he just needs to be healthy.
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that tap dances or shies away from contact in this reel.
That’s because he doesn’t do that.
BB I seems to think but if you lower your shoulder you will get dirty yards.
If there’s no crease there’s no dirty yards.
Barkley needs to work on picking up pass blocks outside of that he just needs to be healthy.
Did you notice when Gallman took over the TFL's stopped ? Barkley's first move is to STOP RUNNING when he gets ball. That needs to end and he needs to block too. Great talent but why is 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 an automatic pass play for Giants now ? Do Giants need to add another RB for short yardage and blocking ? I believe they do. Barkley is a HR threat but not the complete RB we thought we were getting.
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In comment 15212147 Britt in VA said:
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that tap dances or shies away from contact in this reel.
That’s because he doesn’t do that.
BB I seems to think but if you lower your shoulder you will get dirty yards.
If there’s no crease there’s no dirty yards.
Barkley needs to work on picking up pass blocks outside of that he just needs to be healthy.
Did you notice when Gallman took over the TFL's stopped ? Barkley's first move is to STOP RUNNING when he gets ball. That needs to end and he needs to block too. Great talent but why is 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 an automatic pass play for Giants now ? Do Giants need to add another RB for short yardage and blocking ? I believe they do. Barkley is a HR threat but not the complete RB we thought we were getting.
Come on, the OL gelling had something to do with that as well. Its not like the run game suddenly came to life when Barkley went down.
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In comment 15212147 Britt in VA said:
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that tap dances or shies away from contact in this reel.
That’s because he doesn’t do that.
BB I seems to think but if you lower your shoulder you will get dirty yards.
If there’s no crease there’s no dirty yards.
Barkley needs to work on picking up pass blocks outside of that he just needs to be healthy.
Did you notice when Gallman took over the TFL's stopped ? Barkley's first move is to STOP RUNNING when he gets ball. That needs to end and he needs to block too. Great talent but why is 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 an automatic pass play for Giants now ? Do Giants need to add another RB for short yardage and blocking ? I believe they do. Barkley is a HR threat but not the complete RB we thought we were getting.
Coincidentally, the OLine was re-shuffled and improved (and developed) at the same time.
ok
He stops when there's nowhere to run....
... Gallman doesn't fix that in any way.
We disagree in our assessment.
How about this quote by Tiki Barber last September, before Barkley got hurt?
“He might not be an every-down back,” Barber said on his CBS Sports Radio show. “He cannot pass protect, and it is starting to become glaring. It was probably the only issue he had to deal with coming into the NFL. He wasn’t asked to do it at Penn State. And you see him diving on the ground, not sticking his head in people’s chests. It’s gonna be a liability, because people see it now, it’s on tape, and it’s gonna come out.”
This is the problem. It's some of the same reason Gallman is unemployed right now. You MUST pass block in the NFL or its Not For Long. I'm not trying to be a d#ck about Barkley but that's the reality playing pro football.
The only thing making "not for long" the most ridiculous statement re: Barkley is injury.
Keep a TE in to block and allow Barkley to run routes.
Not for long...
...GTFOuttaher
Good thing for you is Gallman is still out there so someone will eventually get those hard yards for sure.
But I think it's a huge hurdle he must overcome - he wasn't a good pass blocker when he was healthy, and now he has to be good at it coming off a major knee injury.
We'll see. If he can figure it out, he's an elite RB.
If there is something that an OC can scheme around, it is who the extra blocker might be on pass plays with a RB in the game.
The RB can chip to the flat, keep a TE in and slant the OL responsibilities away, roll out, play action.
I would love for Barkley to block like Clinton Portis, but he doesn't have to.
Besides, I think you'll find that an improving, developing OLine plus a blocking TE will compensate for much of any shortfall Barkley wold have in blocking.
At this point, I'm not sure that people aren't just looking for something to piss about.
Barkley hasn't yet ran behind even a marginal OL - its always been bad or awful. He's lined up with a TE who isn't a plus blocker. He's lined up with a statue at QB and then a rookie. Its been a constant uphill battle, and he's juggling being the HR threat on offense with staying honest and doing the dirty work too - it isn't simple.
I think its reasonable to assume his pass blocking will grade out better if the team also improves. Rudolph should help, along with the growth of the OL.
Barkley hasn't yet ran behind even a marginal OL - its always been bad or awful. He's lined up with a TE who isn't a plus blocker. He's lined up with a statue at QB and then a rookie. Its been a constant uphill battle, and he's juggling being the HR threat on offense with staying honest and doing the dirty work too - it isn't simple.
I think its reasonable to assume his pass blocking will grade out better if the team also improves. Rudolph should help, along with the growth of the OL.
As far as hard yards, I see him get at least an extra three or four yards after seemingly being tackled on a lot of plays. You also see him near the goal line lower his shoulder and fire straight ahead like a missile. He's a smart player. He knows when to go down and when to go extra.
Are these hard yards? - ( New Window )
SB does not do what winning RBs do. He is not the best HB in the NFL - anyone posting that is just being a homer. Watch real top level HBs play, like Elliott and Derrick Henry, and see how they are invariably producing positive yardage. The real argument is whether SB is a Top 5 HB in the league. My opinion is probably but he is a young player who, despite the magic he sporadically produces, really needs to work on aspects of his game.
You mention Elliott - well, can you name the OL and TE's he's played with? Ever wonder what the 2 RB's would do if they switched teams?
you and Terps should start a new website