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NFT: Knicks @ Celtics 7:30 pm

Del Shofner : 4/7/2021 11:10 am
The two teams are tied in the standings and have pretty similar stats. Celts coming off a loss last night to the Sixers. Not ready to use "Knicks" and "big game" in the same sentence yet, but if the hope is to make the playoffs...
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RE: Fuck this team  
chopperhatch : 4/7/2021 10:12 pm : link
In comment 15213294 nygiants16 said:
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stupid bullshit constantly, why the fuck are you doubling? for what fucking reason?, tatum was going nowhere..

Team is still fricken stupid


Lots of stupid play. We dont just need a talented PG and another scorer, we need smarter players.

Several times Bullock was running around the middle of the floor covering nobody.
RE: Missed the last couple of games  
nygiants16 : 4/7/2021 10:15 pm : link
In comment 15213332 bceagle05 said:
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and it sounds like I didn’t miss much. At least RJ is continuing to ascend.


Rj was awesome tonight, ball should of been in his hands a lot more
29 points on 14 shots for RJ  
adamg : 4/7/2021 10:15 pm : link
#FreeRJ #20Shots
Rose is so much better at finding rj  
nygiants16 : 4/7/2021 10:19 pm : link
than anyone else on the team..
RE: RE: Missed the last couple of games  
Stu11 : 4/7/2021 10:19 pm : link
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and it sounds like I didn’t miss much. At least RJ is continuing to ascend.



Rj was awesome tonight, ball should of been in his hands a lot more

Not gonna argue that the strides RJ has made this year are sooo heartening, but these awful fucking turnovers with no one near him in the last 2 minutes of games just has to stop.
RE: RE: RE: Missed the last couple of games  
nygiants16 : 4/7/2021 10:23 pm : link
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and it sounds like I didn’t miss much. At least RJ is continuing to ascend.



Rj was awesome tonight, ball should of been in his hands a lot more


Not gonna argue that the strides RJ has made this year are sooo heartening, but these awful fucking turnovers with no one near him in the last 2 minutes of games just has to stop.


Oh that turnover killed me, i screamed so loud my wife almost killed me
RE: Rose is so much better at finding rj  
robbieballs2003 : 4/7/2021 10:27 pm : link
In comment 15213345 nygiants16 said:
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than anyone else on the team..


He still hasn't played well of late. Quickley hasn't either although he showing signs of breaking out. The backcourt is just a shitshow right now. I don't care who is there it is just the same bullshit. Payton is uselss. I mean that backcourt violation says it all. How dumb was that? Rose just dribbles way too much, doesn't move the ball enough, and puts up these horrible bricks. The ball movement isn't 100% their fault. The other 4 guys just stand still most of the time. And these shitty offensive possessions lead to bad defensive possessions.

And, yes, the stupid on this team is starting to show. Way too much standing around on D and not knowing where guys are. And that Bullock double on Tatum was the epitome of this team post all star break.

This went from a fun and enjoyable team to watch and root for to one that is extremely frustrating every night now. I HATE this offensive system if you can even call it a system.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Missed the last couple of games  
Stu11 : 4/7/2021 10:32 pm : link
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and it sounds like I didn’t miss much. At least RJ is continuing to ascend.



Rj was awesome tonight, ball should of been in his hands a lot more


Not gonna argue that the strides RJ has made this year are sooo heartening, but these awful fucking turnovers with no one near him in the last 2 minutes of games just has to stop.



Oh that turnover killed me, i screamed so loud my wife almost killed me

After these past 10 days of Knicks games my wife is filing divorce by 8am tomorrow lol
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Missed the last couple of games  
nygiants16 : 4/7/2021 10:33 pm : link
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and it sounds like I didn’t miss much. At least RJ is continuing to ascend.



Rj was awesome tonight, ball should of been in his hands a lot more


Not gonna argue that the strides RJ has made this year are sooo heartening, but these awful fucking turnovers with no one near him in the last 2 minutes of games just has to stop.



Oh that turnover killed me, i screamed so loud my wife almost killed me


After these past 10 days of Knicks games my wife is filing divorce by 8am tomorrow lol


haha same, my wife hates basketball season
72 games instead of 82  
bceagle05 : 4/7/2021 10:48 pm : link
is looking like a huge plus for us right now.
Elfrid Payton  
Bricktop : 4/7/2021 10:55 pm : link
needs to play more. He's eventually going to be a stud. More minutes.
RE: 72 games instead of 82  
nygiants16 : 4/7/2021 11:00 pm : link
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is looking like a huge plus for us right now.


Yup, big 3 game homestand coming uo
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/8/2021 6:31 am : link
RJ continues to improve. Tomorrow will be tough vs. Grizz.
Lots of games at home coming up  
nygiants16 : 4/8/2021 8:58 am : link
tough games but not unbeatable teams, teams you habe to beat if you want to go to the playoffs, games against toronto twice, Lakers, Pelicans twice, hornets, Memphis, Chicago..
This team needs a pure point guard  
Jan in DC : 4/8/2021 9:15 am : link
in the worst way. Every offensive possession seems so difficult.

Rose is great, but he's a combo guard. Same with IQ.

Also, I know Thibs wants to win and make it to the playoffs (that doesn't feel all that important to me at this point) but can we stop playing Taj Gibson and Derrick Rose in crunch time? I know that developing young players is a process, but how do we know if they're gamers if we don't let them ball with the game on the line?

I'm talking mostly about Quickley. I love Taj and Rose, but they're not going to be playing meaningful minutes for this team when we're competitive.
RE: This team needs a pure point guard  
nygiants16 : 4/8/2021 9:17 am : link
In comment 15213499 Jan in DC said:
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in the worst way. Every offensive possession seems so difficult.

Rose is great, but he's a combo guard. Same with IQ.

Also, I know Thibs wants to win and make it to the playoffs (that doesn't feel all that important to me at this point) but can we stop playing Taj Gibson and Derrick Rose in crunch time? I know that developing young players is a process, but how do we know if they're gamers if we don't let them ball with the game on the line?

I'm talking mostly about Quickley. I love Taj and Rose, but they're not going to be playing meaningful minutes for this team when we're competitive.


what young player do you want in instead of Taj?

I get people want Quickley to play more, i do too, but he is clearly hitting the rookie wall, has not been good for a long stretch, Playing big minutes is not thebonly way to develop players...
I this this team has maxed out it's potential  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/8/2021 9:19 am : link
at it's current state.

They are terribly limited by lack of a PG. Everyone would be improved by it, even Obi.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/8/2021 9:26 am : link
We need to make a real run @ Lonzo this summer.
They have been giving teams far too many second chances  
steve in ky : 4/8/2021 9:29 am : link
Giving up too many offensive rebounds been killing them and the biggest reason for coming up short.

Look at the last couple close losses

Boston 20 second chance points to the Knicks 7
Nets 26 to the Knicks 2
RE: I this this team has maxed out it's potential  
Heisenberg : 4/8/2021 9:33 am : link
In comment 15213502 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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at it's current state.

They are terribly limited by lack of a PG. Everyone would be improved by it, even Obi.


Especially Obi. A guy that can hit him for open 3s and help him crash the rim would unlock Obi.
RE: They have been giving teams far too many second chances  
Semipro Lineman : 4/8/2021 9:37 am : link
In comment 15213514 steve in ky said:
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Giving up too many offensive rebounds been killing them and the biggest reason for coming up short.

Look at the last couple close losses

Boston 20 second chance points to the Knicks 7
Nets 26 to the Knicks 2


Direct evidence of how Mitch's injury is hurting the Knicks on defense
RE: RE: This team needs a pure point guard  
Jan in DC : 4/8/2021 9:41 am : link
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in the worst way. Every offensive possession seems so difficult.

Rose is great, but he's a combo guard. Same with IQ.

Also, I know Thibs wants to win and make it to the playoffs (that doesn't feel all that important to me at this point) but can we stop playing Taj Gibson and Derrick Rose in crunch time? I know that developing young players is a process, but how do we know if they're gamers if we don't let them ball with the game on the line?

I'm talking mostly about Quickley. I love Taj and Rose, but they're not going to be playing meaningful minutes for this team when we're competitive.



what young player do you want in instead of Taj?

I get people want Quickley to play more, i do too, but he is clearly hitting the rookie wall, has not been good for a long stretch, Playing big minutes is not thebonly way to develop players...


Like I said, the comment was more about Quickley than anyone else. Ideally you'd want Obi or Robinson playing those minutes but Obi hasn't earned them and Robinson is injured.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/8/2021 9:53 am : link
Feels like all these recent losses have been really close games where we fall just short. That's bound to happen with a team learning to win. Making the playoffs is still possible obviously, but this year really is about growth & we've seen that from Randle to RJ to the emergence of IQ. Obi is frustrating; he's been a disappointment & really doesn't have a future here long term if we keep Randle.
RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 4/8/2021 9:56 am : link
In comment 15213535 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Feels like all these recent losses have been really close games where we fall just short. That's bound to happen with a team learning to win. Making the playoffs is still possible obviously, but this year really is about growth & we've seen that from Randle to RJ to the emergence of IQ. Obi is frustrating; he's been a disappointment & really doesn't have a future here long term if we keep Randle.


I think you have 3 starters in Randle, Rj and Mitch..

You have your bench in Rose, Bullock, Burks and Noel or Gibson..

I have a feeling IQ and Toppin will be traded in offseason for a star shooting guard..

If Not Iq right now is another scorer off the bench
RJ  
Jon in NYC : 4/8/2021 9:58 am : link
is shooting 45% from 3 the last 40 games. 40 games is quite a sample size. That's half a season. Wild.
RE: RJ  
Heisenberg : 4/8/2021 10:23 am : link
In comment 15213540 Jon in NYC said:
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is shooting 45% from 3 the last 40 games. 40 games is quite a sample size. That's half a season. Wild.


If he continues to be one of those guys who adds to his game each year, the sky is the limit.
nygiants16.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/8/2021 10:26 am : link
Who are you thinking? Beal? I gotta imagine LaVine is off table with the Bulls dealing for Vuc.
They'd better  
Jon in NYC : 4/8/2021 10:28 am : link
not trade IQ. I just bought his jersey. Need to work on my farmer's tan now that the weather's nice.
RE: They'd better  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/8/2021 10:31 am : link
In comment 15213579 Jon in NYC said:
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not trade IQ. I just bought his jersey. Need to work on my farmer's tan now that the weather's nice.


Getting close to Halter Top Day no in the Northeast?
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Giantology : 4/8/2021 10:32 am : link
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Feels like all these recent losses have been really close games where we fall just short. That's bound to happen with a team learning to win. Making the playoffs is still possible obviously, but this year really is about growth & we've seen that from Randle to RJ to the emergence of IQ. Obi is frustrating; he's been a disappointment & really doesn't have a future here long term if we keep Randle.



I think you have 3 starters in Randle, Rj and Mitch..

You have your bench in Rose, Bullock, Burks and Noel or Gibson..

I have a feeling IQ and Toppin will be traded in offseason for a star shooting guard..

If Not Iq right now is another scorer off the bench


IQ is not going anywhere.
RE: nygiants16.  
nygiants16 : 4/8/2021 10:43 am : link
In comment 15213576 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Who are you thinking? Beal? I gotta imagine LaVine is off table with the Bulls dealing for Vuc.


I think its Beal, I also wouldnt rule out Lavine
I'd be shocked..  
Jan in DC : 4/8/2021 10:48 am : link
if the Bulls didn't invest in Lavine long term. They basically decided to not blow it all up, and went all in with the team that they had. I can't imagine they'll blow it up after a half a season.

Beal is a possibility, but I think it'll have to be a player that forces his way to NYC.
RE: I'd be shocked..  
nygiants16 : 4/8/2021 11:13 am : link
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if the Bulls didn't invest in Lavine long term. They basically decided to not blow it all up, and went all in with the team that they had. I can't imagine they'll blow it up after a half a season.

Beal is a possibility, but I think it'll have to be a player that forces his way to NYC.


He is a free agebt after next year, they can offer him a max extension but if he wants to leave he will
RE: nygiants16.  
TyreeHelmet : 4/8/2021 11:41 am : link
In comment 15213576 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Who are you thinking? Beal? I gotta imagine LaVine is off table with the Bulls dealing for Vuc.


Chicago can’t trade Lavine after the Vooch deal. They gave up their own unprotected picks. He also has an outside chance at All NBA and become eligible for a supermax this summer.

Lonzo has to be their top priority. It’s beyond the point that need to use that cap space.

Beal would be great but it’s going to be costly and a ton of teams in on him. I’m all for it but he will be tough to get.
RE: RE: nygiants16.  
nygiants16 : 4/8/2021 11:51 am : link
In comment 15213672 TyreeHelmet said:
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Who are you thinking? Beal? I gotta imagine LaVine is off table with the Bulls dealing for Vuc.



Chicago can’t trade Lavine after the Vooch deal. They gave up their own unprotected picks. He also has an outside chance at All NBA and become eligible for a supermax this summer.

Lonzo has to be their top priority. It’s beyond the point that need to use that cap space.

Beal would be great but it’s going to be costly and a ton of teams in on him. I’m all for it but he will be tough to get.


Not a lot of teams have the draft picks or the cap space needed to get it done..it will take a lot though
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/8/2021 12:04 pm : link
Yes, I don't see Chicago dealing Lavine. As for Beal, I'm all in on him, but he really sounds like he wants to stay in Washington. Does that change? Perhaps, but this isn't a dude-at the moment-looking to flee the DMV.

Yes, yes, yes on Lonzo this summer.
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nygiants16 : 4/8/2021 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15213705 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Yes, I don't see Chicago dealing Lavine. As for Beal, I'm all in on him, but he really sounds like he wants to stay in Washington. Does that change? Perhaps, but this isn't a dude-at the moment-looking to flee the DMV.

Yes, yes, yes on Lonzo this summer.


I dont see hoe Beal could be happy coming back next year with Washington, but who knows..

Lonzo is a must
It's funny...  
Jan in DC : 4/8/2021 1:01 pm : link
a player like Chris Paul or Fred Van Vleet would be great for this team now.

If they can't land a big player via trade, I wouldn't mind them giving Kyle Lowery or Mike Conley big 1 year deals while they try to find the third star.
RE: It's funny...  
TyreeHelmet : 4/8/2021 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15213783 Jan in DC said:
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a player like Chris Paul or Fred Van Vleet would be great for this team now.

If they can't land a big player via trade, I wouldn't mind them giving Kyle Lowery or Mike Conley big 1 year deals while they try to find the third star.


Outside of the true superstars, I think Van Vleet would be the perfect fit for what the current Knicks weaknesses are. But at least they have cap space....
Randle needs to play point  
adamg : 4/8/2021 5:48 pm : link
But he needs to shoot less too. He should be feeding RJ the ball. RJ should be given some time at point to develop. He's not great handling, but he's getting better at driving and dishing. He's making smart plays. I'd like to see Randle and RJ taking similar amounts of baskets: 20 each.
RE: Randle needs to play point  
nygiants16 : 4/8/2021 5:58 pm : link
In comment 15214150 adamg said:
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But he needs to shoot less too. He should be feeding RJ the ball. RJ should be given some time at point to develop. He's not great handling, but he's getting better at driving and dishing. He's making smart plays. I'd like to see Randle and RJ taking similar amounts of baskets: 20 each.


I wouldnt mind starting Burks, ball in Randle and Rjs hands
RE: RE: Randle needs to play point  
adamg : 4/8/2021 6:01 pm : link
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But he needs to shoot less too. He should be feeding RJ the ball. RJ should be given some time at point to develop. He's not great handling, but he's getting better at driving and dishing. He's making smart plays. I'd like to see Randle and RJ taking similar amounts of baskets: 20 each.



I wouldnt mind starting Burks, ball in Randle and Rjs hands


I think Burks is our best 1 on the team, Rose included. Burks just needs to be better about not taking every shot he can.

I like Rose and IQ coming off the bench. Burks starting at the 1. And Elfrid Payton on a spaceship to Mars.

Burks-Bullock-RJ-Randle-Mitch is probably our best starting lineup with the personnel we have. Obviously, Noel is in there for now.
IOW I agree 16  
adamg : 4/8/2021 6:01 pm : link
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nygiants16 : 4/8/2021 6:05 pm : link
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But he needs to shoot less too. He should be feeding RJ the ball. RJ should be given some time at point to develop. He's not great handling, but he's getting better at driving and dishing. He's making smart plays. I'd like to see Randle and RJ taking similar amounts of baskets: 20 each.



I wouldnt mind starting Burks, ball in Randle and Rjs hands



I think Burks is our best 1 on the team, Rose included. Burks just needs to be better about not taking every shot he can.

I like Rose and IQ coming off the bench. Burks starting at the 1. And Elfrid Payton on a spaceship to Mars.

Burks-Bullock-RJ-Randle-Mitch is probably our best starting lineup with the personnel we have. Obviously, Noel is in there for now.


Rj drives me nuts sometimes but right now hr is best with the ball in his hands and spacing on the floor
RE: RE: It's funny...  
BigBlueShock : 4/8/2021 6:49 pm : link
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a player like Chris Paul or Fred Van Vleet would be great for this team now.

If they can't land a big player via trade, I wouldn't mind them giving Kyle Lowery or Mike Conley big 1 year deals while they try to find the third star.



Outside of the true superstars, I think Van Vleet would be the perfect fit for what the current Knicks weaknesses are. But at least they have cap space....

Didn’t Van Vleet make clear that he was not interested in leaving Toronto? How is that situation the Knicks fault? And Paul also said he wasn’t interested in the East coast because his family is on the West Coast. So, yeah.....cap space.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/8/2021 7:17 pm : link
Non Knicks related, but this is the upcoming LAL schedule...@ Heat, @ Nets, @ Knicks, @ Charlotte, vs. Boston, vs. Utah, vs. Utah, @ Dallas, @ Dallas...

I'd love a 2-7, 1-8 stretch...all which is entirely possibly with no LBJ/AD.

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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/8/2021 7:18 pm : link
I would love-LOVE-for somehow the Lakers to fall into the play in tourney.
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nygiants16 : 4/8/2021 7:18 pm : link
In comment 15214249 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Non Knicks related, but this is the upcoming LAL schedule...@ Heat, @ Nets, @ Knicks, @ Charlotte, vs. Boston, vs. Utah, vs. Utah, @ Dallas, @ Dallas...

I'd love a 2-7, 1-8 stretch...all which is entirely possibly with no LBJ/AD.


and it looks like Kuzma out for a little bjt
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/8/2021 7:23 pm : link
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Non Knicks related, but this is the upcoming LAL schedule...@ Heat, @ Nets, @ Knicks, @ Charlotte, vs. Boston, vs. Utah, vs. Utah, @ Dallas, @ Dallas...

I'd love a 2-7, 1-8 stretch...all which is entirely possibly with no LBJ/AD.




and it looks like Kuzma out for a little bjt


That's a shame...
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TyreeHelmet : 4/8/2021 8:49 pm : link
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a player like Chris Paul or Fred Van Vleet would be great for this team now.

If they can't land a big player via trade, I wouldn't mind them giving Kyle Lowery or Mike Conley big 1 year deals while they try to find the third star.



Outside of the true superstars, I think Van Vleet would be the perfect fit for what the current Knicks weaknesses are. But at least they have cap space....


Didn’t Van Vleet make clear that he was not interested in leaving Toronto? How is that situation the Knicks fault? And Paul also said he wasn’t interested in the East coast because his family is on the West Coast. So, yeah.....cap space.


If he was offered more money you don’t think he would of have left? Those are the reports but he also stated himself on a podcast that he was looking for the biggest pay day. We’ll never know because the Knicks never offered him.

I just didn’t understand why the Knicks never even took a run at him. I know I’m beating a dead horse but I just would have loved him on the Knicks. And he would be fix many of the Knicks current weaknesses.

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