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Cruz on DeVonta Smith: “You have to catch him first.”

Big Blue '56 : 4/8/2021 10:32 am
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"It depends on what you're asking him to do," Cruz said of Smith, whom NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah mocked Tuesday to the Giants as a No. 11 overall pick . "Are you asking him to line up as a slot receiver and block outside linebackers and be in the trenches? Probably not. You want him to be outside and using that athleticism and using that separation speed to run his routes and be what you saw him be at Alabama. It's something to be said about what you're asking him to do. You have to catch him first. You can say all of that about taking hits, but you have to be able to catch him first.

"… Yes, (size) matters. But does it matter in the grand scheme of things? Probably not. You've got guys like Desean Jackson playing a lengthy career. It's all about what you're asking him to do and what team he goes to and how he fits within that scheme."

"It's crazy to think the receivers that they've had on their (Alabama) roster, going all the away back to (the Atlanta Falcons') Julio Jones and (Dallas Cowboys') Amari Cooper and (Falcons') Calvin Ridley, and we saw (Denver Broncos' Jerry) Jeudy, and Henry Ruggs go to the Raiders — and yet, here's maybe the best of 'em all," ESPN college football analyst Kirk Herbstreit said Jan. 10 on Postseason NFL Countdown. "If you look at him in his outfit, he's so slight, right? You think, you know, he doesn't have the physicality to make it in the NFL. But he's wiry strong.

"And I'm going to tell you something — Randy (Moss) can really appreciate this — he's a superstar, but he's the hardest-working guy on their team. He's the most humble superstar you're ever going to see.

"He's long-strider, he's got long arms, he's a tough 1-on-1 matchup and I just love how he attacks. I went to practice — this kid doesn't take a rep off. He's a gunner on the punt team. He returns punts. He returns kickoffs. He's just going to be a guy that, wherever he goes, he'll be a breath of fresh air for that organization. They will love his approach to the game — very similar to Julio, just as far as hardest-working guy on the team."







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Smith's nickname should be Silk.  
Thegratefulhead : 4/8/2021 3:46 pm : link
His routes are that smooth.
RE: Smith  
Eman11 : 4/8/2021 4:20 pm : link
In comment 15213715 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Isn’t a one year wonder. He led Alabama in receiving in 2019 with Jeudy and Ruggs on the team as well. The guy is a really really player.


He was also the guy who as a freshman caught the National Championship winning OT TD from Tua.
RE: Jaylen Waddle was the fastest WR in the draft  
Trainmaster : 4/8/2021 5:32 pm : link
The key on the GPS data is WAS. How about the post injury National Championship game?

At the end of the National Championship game Waddle was not 100% and Smith was on the sidelines. That is my concern about both of these guys. It's not what they can do when they're healthy, it's how healthy are they now (Waddle) and how healthy can they stay (applies to both D Smith and Waddle IMHO).

I'm not enamored with the high ceiling both of these guys have. I'm worried about how low a floor they may have.

Surtain has a very high floor IMHO. He's the cleanest / safest pick.

IF the rumor of Dallas wanting to trade up for Pitts is true, that makes Surtain dropping to the Giants more likely.

I'd be fine with our 6 DB look being Bradberry, Jackson, Surtain, Peppers, McKinney and Ryan.

sounds like a Joe Judge guy  
Paulie Walnuts : 4/8/2021 5:41 pm : link
take him and go Edge or OL in 2nd round
RE: First half National championship game  
Del Shofner : 4/8/2021 5:55 pm : link
In comment 15213700 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Runs every route. Shows contested-catch radius, shows short-area quickness, shows long speed. Shows ability to take a hit. All completely effortless. National Championship game - ( New Window )


That's some nice tape, for sure, but watching it again I'm most impressed by Bama's different ways of using him, and how Ohio State's D seemed baffled in coverages. There are a number of blown coverages in there.
RE: RE: Jaylen Waddle was the fastest WR in the draft  
PwndPapi : 4/8/2021 7:42 pm : link
In comment 15214132 Trainmaster said:
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The key on the GPS data is WAS. How about the post injury National Championship game?

At the end of the National Championship game Waddle was not 100% and Smith was on the sidelines. That is my concern about both of these guys. It's not what they can do when they're healthy, it's how healthy are they now (Waddle) and how healthy can they stay (applies to both D Smith and Waddle IMHO).

I'm not enamored with the high ceiling both of these guys have. I'm worried about how low a floor they may have.

Surtain has a very high floor IMHO. He's the cleanest / safest pick.

IF the rumor of Dallas wanting to trade up for Pitts is true, that makes Surtain dropping to the Giants more likely.

I'd be fine with our 6 DB look being Bradberry, Jackson, Surtain, Peppers, McKinney and Ryan.


I hear what you're saying. But there are DBs from big programs who do bust out of the league. And there are DBs who miss significant time with injuries each year too.

Maybe your comment was specific to Surtain, but I wouldn't say high floor is higher than Smith or Waddle.
Has anyone heard anything  
Big Blue '56 : 4/8/2021 8:26 pm : link
on Waddle’s ankle at present?
Two different questions of  
NoGainDayne : 4/8/2021 8:37 pm : link
can he get open in the NFL and can he stay healthy.

I don't think Cruz's point is a particularly good one. All it takes is one hit to change his career.

I think we have to separate that from is he going to be good which I think is a much safer bet obviously.

RE: Two different questions of  
Big Blue '56 : 4/8/2021 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15214314 NoGainDayne said:
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can he get open in the NFL and can he stay healthy.

I don't think Cruz's point is a particularly good one. All it takes is one hit to change his career.

I think we have to separate that from is he going to be good which I think is a much safer bet obviously.


That was my fear with Eli when he was drafted. I think he was around 218 pounds at 6’ 5”..I thought he was ripe for injury, repeatedly so..LOL
RE: RE: RE: Never mind the weight for a second  
Reale01 : 4/8/2021 9:42 pm : link
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You watched him and Waddle play and need a 40 time to know they're fast? lol.



You go through the draft and find a receiver taken that high,with no data available.

Have fun


Field speed is THE most important thing and you do not need a stopwatch to see that Smith and Waddle are VERY fast on the field against top opposition. Let it go.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Never mind the weight for a second  
ghost718 : 4/8/2021 11:21 pm : link
In comment 15214364 Reale01 said:
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Field speed is THE most important thing and you do not need a stopwatch to see that Smith and Waddle are VERY fast on the field against top opposition. Let it go.


The argument was about the data being available.Since you guys want to spin it,you should know that Smith is not as easy a case and he's being made out to be.In terms of how fast he is.He could run 4.4,he could run 4.5 as well.Nothing would shock me,and that's based on watching these guys for years.
RE: RE: RE: Smith doesn't remind me of Nicks or Cruz at all  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/9/2021 6:52 am : link
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Nicks was a prototypical outside guy who played with great physicality, positioning, IQ and had fantastic jump ball skills. Cruz was smaller lengthwise, but stocky and exceptionally nimble. He ran great routes.

If I had to compare D. Smith to any former NYG, I'd say his makeup reminds me more of Mario Manningham. He's far better of course.



Yeah, but does Smith make that play against the Pats? 😎😎



I'm convinced that if Eli and MM ran that play 100 times, they would connect in bounds probably less than 20% of the time. Fantastic throw and catch.


And under incredible pressure at both ends of the play!
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