So I'm flipping around the radio recently and a song comes on. Instrumental section .....sounds pretty good.
And then, I hear the caterwauling of Vince Neil. Ugh, Motley Crue - I hate Motley Crue! It started to dawn on me,however, that I actually don't hate Motley Crue. I just hate Vince Neil.
Anyone else have that realization about a band?
Guns n Roses
but like scotch, I think his voice is an acquired taste.
Fits the band. Is he great talent ,no. But crue was pretty cool .
No I realize musically they aren’t really any good
Actually like some sixx AM stuff
Not big into y&t, didn’t like singers voice
Saxon. Biff byford Ok
Deftones. Not big into singer
Dokken. George lynch kills. Don dokken, not so much
Greta van fleet. Like some of their music quiet a lot. At times singer sounds like someone stepping on a cat’s tail
After awhile, Klaus meine from scorpions can annoy me
Tool. Only so much
Love Eric adams of manowar in 80s. Vicious set of pipes
Can still listen to halford, dip, Dickinson, Geoff Tate in primes, all day
Dio never left his prime. Sounded great till he died.
Todd latorre of queesryche can sing. New solo album quite heavy and quiet good
I agree with Greg on Vince Neil, although I didn't hate him on Livewire.
And Mr. Nargi... Pearl Jam? WTF dude Eddie Vedder on those first two albums is unreal... lol
I think Bono is another one I'm not a fan of, I don't love U2, but I think Bono is the worst of the bunch.
Not that I love them....Fred Durst really screwed Limp Bizkit.
I would like a lot of Death Metal bands if they could find real singers; not a big fan of the growling.
I think Bono is another one I'm not a fan of, I don't love U2, but I think Bono is the worst of the bunch.
I've been a U2 fan for 30+ years and think Bono is one of the great front man, singers and lyricists in the history of music.
And you think the absolute opposite. Musical tastes are a very personal and interesting thing... ;)
I think Bono is another one I'm not a fan of, I don't love U2, but I think Bono is the worst of the bunch.
Agree completely with this one.
Van Halen works better as an instrumental for me. Most of their lyrics and singing is just annoying to me.
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I think Bono is another one I'm not a fan of, I don't love U2, but I think Bono is the worst of the bunch.
I've been a U2 fan for 30+ years and think Bono is one of the great front man, singers and lyricists in the history of music.
And you think the absolute opposite. Musical tastes are a very personal and interesting thing... ;)
But the correct answer for me is Paul Di'Anno from Iron Maiden.
Ha I hear ya... and it's subjective so you sure aren't wrong... but man I wore those first 2 albums out, and Vedder was a huge part of that for me. I think I covered in bands every single tune on those first two albums (and a lot of Vitalogy).
but like scotch, I think his voice is an acquired taste.
His voice changed dramatically over the years. In the early era of the band (mid to late 70s) he was very high and screechy...the Geddy Lee voice people who don't like the band often refer to... but starting in the 80s and onward his delivery got lower and more restrained each album on. He was singing as opposed to screaming. If someone listens to something off, say, Hold Your Fire or Roll The Bones , it sounds like an entirely different band than the one who recorded 2112
So the statement that his voice has evolved makes a TON of sense and is spot on. Great call. I think his voice evolved to the point that it fit the band perfectly.
In fact, I just watched a cover of Subdivisions with members from Suicidal Tendencies, Testament, Anthrax, and Crobot. It was good. But there's no way to duplicate Geddy's voice within the context of the music and the fact that it takes five musicians to replicate a three-piece is pretty unreal. Speaks to the brilliance and originality of the band.
And I lost count how many times I saw Rush live. Hell I think I saw them 5x just at Radio City Music Hall
Glens Falls Civic Center and RPI Fieldhouse in Troy, NY.
Rush at RCMH has to date back to the early 80's. That's crazy.
You happen to save your ticket stubs? A friend of mine has every ticket from the early 80's. It's an unbelievable collection.
I saw Maiden in Mexico, PR (happened to be there on vacation with my wife), Canada and Brazil - totally different fan experience from the US/NA tours. Even the Bell Centre was just batshit though. They're back touring next year, apparently. Bart Scott voice.
I'll second this.
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I cannot stand his warbly voice. At all.
Ha I hear ya... and it's subjective so you sure aren't wrong... but man I wore those first 2 albums out, and Vedder was a huge part of that for me. I think I covered in bands every single tune on those first two albums (and a lot of Vitalogy).
I get the Vedder dislike. I liked him on the first few albums but not so much post Vitalogy. That song from a few years back, “Just Breathe” is brutal to listen to. He’s almost unintelligible. It’s like a mumbly whine. My friend at work can’t stand Vedder or the dude from The Offspring so I rotated ringtones on my phone of Yellow Ledbetter and the Keep em Separated one by The Offspring as a joke for like a month lol.
Guns n Roses
100% with you on G&R. Disagree with regards to Pearl Jam since I always liked them better than Nirvana!
Absolutely, his schtick was more performance than any actual talent
Seriously Dave just riffing and Eddie coming up with his incredibly cool innovative stuff worked for me all the time
Big disappointment that Eddie barely released anything last 20 yrs
A different kind of truth did have some real excellent guitar work for half the album
Hopefully Eddie put a ton of stuff down in his archives that we will hear some day
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Pearl Jam
Guns n Roses
100% with you on G&R. Disagree with regards to Pearl Jam since I always liked them better than Nirvana!
Pearl Jam is another band that was amazing live and Vedder was a fucking lunatic on stage. One of the best shows I've seen is PJ at Lollapalooza in 1992 at SPAC in NY. They played "Alive" towards the end of their set and the entire lawn crowd rushed the stage, overpowered security and went fucking mental. One of the best live musical moments of my life. And the reason they never had another Lollapalooza at SPAC.
Absolute utter choas. Pure love and emotion though. Wasn't violent or ugly. It was amazing. Love the band and the lead man.
Then Ministry came on and started with Psalm 69 and N.W.O. HO-LY shit - what a personal awakening for me. Never heard anything like that in my life. Sick. Al was singing into a bone-covered mic stand going absolutely insane.
Next set was Soundgarden - made it to the front row eventually and slapped hands with Chris Cornell.
Topped it all off with RHCP who did 19 fucking songs ending with Crosstown Traffic. I was absolutely exhausted. That festival was one of the best days of my life.
I got to hang out with them backstage once many years ago. My friend grew up with one of the band members.
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100% with you on G&R. Disagree with regards to Pearl Jam since I always liked them better than Nirvana!
Pearl Jam is another band that was amazing live and Vedder was a fucking lunatic on stage. One of the best shows I've seen is PJ at Lollapalooza in 1992 at SPAC in NY. They played "Alive" towards the end of their set and the entire lawn crowd rushed the stage, overpowered security and went fucking mental. One of the best live musical moments of my life. And the reason they never had another Lollapalooza at SPAC.
Absolute utter choas. Pure love and emotion though. Wasn't violent or ugly. It was amazing. Love the band and the lead man.
Then Ministry came on and started with Psalm 69 and N.W.O. HO-LY shit - what a personal awakening for me. Never heard anything like that in my life. Sick. Al was singing into a bone-covered mic stand going absolutely insane.
Next set was Soundgarden - made it to the front row eventually and slapped hands with Chris Cornell.
Topped it all off with RHCP who did 19 fucking songs ending with Crosstown Traffic. I was absolutely exhausted. That festival was one of the best days of my life.
I was at the Reston Virginia stop. Indeed an amazing show
You're not alone. With FM, she was mostly ok. Solo, she sounded like an Oompa Loompa
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But I’m not a terrific fan of Stevie Nicks’ voice. It’s weird because I can’t picture the band in my head without her but on its own, I just don’t care for it.
You're not alone. With FM, she was mostly ok. Solo, she sounded like an Oompa Loompa
Ha, as someone stated above, musical tastes differ. Love Stevie Nicks and it is a different one.
What I do not like are the very high pitched screechy voices.
Anthony Keidis cant sing for shit, but he works great for RHCP.
I love Pearl Jam, and generally like Eddie Vedder, but there are a number of songs where his voice just doesn't work for me.
The Doors. I wouldn't say I hate Morrison's voice, but he was a pretty shitty singer.
The Beatles (sort of), Anything they let Ringo sing is an automatic pass for me (with the exception of "With a Little Help", but FU Paul for letting Ringo sing such a great song).
I guess Dream Theater comes close for me, LaBrie cheese aside, the band is great, and they seem to overcome the vox live, I have seen them twice.
But I never even bother with Guns and Roses or AC/DC, instant skip song, change station....
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I love Pearl Jam, and generally like Eddie Vedder, but there are a number of songs where his voice just doesn't work for me.
The Doors. I wouldn't say I hate Morrison's voice, but he was a pretty shitty singer.
The Beatles (sort of), Anything they let Ringo sing is an automatic pass for me (with the exception of "With a Little Help", but FU Paul for letting Ringo sing such a great song).
Lol, that song was a throwaway. It was put together quickly just for Ringo. They purposely wrote it with little vocal range. Funny fact, the line would you stand up and walk out on me was supposed to be something like would you throw ripe tomatoes at me but Ringo made them change it because he thought he'd be pelted with tomatoes if they played it live.
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Love the band and the music, but Shannon Hoon's (RIP) voice goes right through me.
I love Pearl Jam, and generally like Eddie Vedder, but there are a number of songs where his voice just doesn't work for me.
The Doors. I wouldn't say I hate Morrison's voice, but he was a pretty shitty singer.
The Beatles (sort of), Anything they let Ringo sing is an automatic pass for me (with the exception of "With a Little Help", but FU Paul for letting Ringo sing such a great song).
Lol, that song was a throwaway. It was put together quickly just for Ringo. They purposely wrote it with little vocal range. Funny fact, the line would you stand up and walk out on me was supposed to be something like would you throw ripe tomatoes at me but Ringo made them change it because he thought he'd be pelted with tomatoes if they played it live.
(If I didn't lose all credibility with Stevie Nicks, I surely will now...) I actually like Octopus' Garden (although it makes no sense to me) and I like his voice doing it.
Rush - Geddy Lee
GnR - I really f*cking hate Axl Roses's voice. The band is a quick station turner for me bc of Axl.
no voice at all
Love both bands but can't stand Phil.
I guess Dream Theater comes close for me, LaBrie cheese aside, the band is great, and they seem to overcome the vox live, I have seen them twice.
But I never even bother with Guns and Roses or AC/DC, instant skip song, change station....
You're playing a semantic game. I'm talking about bands where you like the music but don't listen to the band because you can't stand the singer.
I guess Dream Theater comes close for me, LaBrie cheese aside, the band is great, and they seem to overcome the vox live, I have seen them twice.
But I never even bother with Guns and Roses or AC/DC, instant skip song, change station....
Yeah Petrucci makes Dream Theater. Although the whole band is great but he is a fantastic guitar player.
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an oxymoron to me. If I hate the singer the band does not matter to me, I don't bother. Why should I, there are so many bands with great singers and great music, why waste any time with crappy vocals?
I guess Dream Theater comes close for me, LaBrie cheese aside, the band is great, and they seem to overcome the vox live, I have seen them twice.
But I never even bother with Guns and Roses or AC/DC, instant skip song, change station....
You're playing a semantic game. I'm talking about bands where you like the music but don't listen to the band because you can't stand the singer.
Not really, since in my case a bad singer wrecks the band's music, it really doesn't matter to me if their music is played well.
BTW, not trying to play any games with your thread or idea, it is a good idea for a discussion. I did come up with Dream Theater as one possible exception in my case.
One more, I hate Rod Stewart, but love the Jeff Beck Group. My solution is to listen to Jeff Beck without Rod Stewart. ;-)
I almost went with U2 with Bono being somewhat of a dick, but I can love the music without letting my opinion of him interfere.
And whoever said they love Van Halen, but hate DLR, WHAAAATTT?!?! How the heck do you pull that one off? To me, DLR is what made VH so cool. If they came on the scene with Sammy as their front man, they never sniff the success they had in the 70's & 80's. No way.
Anthony Keidis cant sing for shit, but he works great for RHCP.
Yeah, Courtney Love (who also sucks) said that without Autotune Keidis would not be able to sing
Between he and Vedder, I wanted to go deaf everytime I heard it.
And back to Vedder...his version of Last Kiss should have forced him to be shunned from singing ever again.
Just my .02
Stevie Nicks has a little bit of the goat singer effect in her too on some songs.
Between he and Vedder, I wanted to go deaf everytime I heard it.
And back to Vedder...his version of Last Kiss should have forced him to be shunned from singing ever again.
Just my .02
Ha ha, that Last Kiss song is awful. If you want one that’s worse to listen to “Just Breathe.” It makes Last Kiss look like the greatest song ever.
I can respect the musicianship of a band with a terrible singer, just like I can respect the singing ability of someone who uses it to terrible ends. But I can never be in a position where I'm saying to myself, "I'm in a certain mood right now and you know what would hit the spot, despite how much I hate that singer?? ______ by Rush!"
Wha???
Oh NO you didn't!
So even if the song was the greatest song every written, I'd always picture Jame Gumb with his twigs and berries stuffed between his legs looking into a camera singing it. Which was not desirable to me (nttawwt if people like that).
So even if the song was the greatest song every written, I'd always picture Jame Gumb with his twigs and berries stuffed between his legs looking into a camera singing it. Which was not desirable to me (nttawwt if people like that).
That's Brad Roberts.
CTDs are actually a very talented band if you can get past his baritone voice. God Shuffled His Feet is their best album and it's one of my all time favorites. They deserved to be more than one hit wonders in America. They have a cult status following in Canada where they are from (Winnipeg)
Wish Rod Stewart could have reunited with beck.
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but the guy from Crash Test Dummies reminded me of Jame Gumb from Silence of the Lambs AKA Buffalo Bill.
So even if the song was the greatest song every written, I'd always picture Jame Gumb with his twigs and berries stuffed between his legs looking into a camera singing it. Which was not desirable to me (nttawwt if people like that).
That's Brad Roberts.
CTDs are actually a very talented band if you can get past his baritone voice. God Shuffled His Feet is their best album and it's one of my all time favorites. They deserved to be more than one hit wonders in America. They have a cult status following in Canada where they are from (Winnipeg)
IMO the CTD's 1st album is their best. Much more county/folksy than their later releases. It's not for everyone but one of my all-time favorite alt-county albums
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"voice" but Lane Staley was one of the reasons I couldn't get into Alice in Chains. I just didn't like the combo of his voice and the music.
Wha???
Oh NO you didn't!
Yeah this take is insane.
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but the guy from Crash Test Dummies reminded me of Jame Gumb from Silence of the Lambs AKA Buffalo Bill.
So even if the song was the greatest song every written, I'd always picture Jame Gumb with his twigs and berries stuffed between his legs looking into a camera singing it. Which was not desirable to me (nttawwt if people like that).
That's Brad Roberts.
CTDs are actually a very talented band if you can get past his baritone voice. God Shuffled His Feet is their best album and it's one of my all time favorites. They deserved to be more than one hit wonders in America. They have a cult status following in Canada where they are from (Winnipeg)
IMO the CTD's 1st album is their best. Much more county/folksy than their later releases. It's not for everyone but one of my all-time favorite alt-county albums
Even if you love them, if you close your eyes and listen to that song "Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm" you have to hear Jame Gumb from Silence of the Lambs. I had to look it up at one point and make sure that actor wasn't their lead singer.
the rest of it - I respect everyone's musical preferences.
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"voice" but Lane Staley was one of the reasons I couldn't get into Alice in Chains. I just didn't like the combo of his voice and the music.
Wha???
Oh NO you didn't!
Yeah this take is insane.
Yeah, I thought he was the best of the grunge band singers.
No way man, Staley was arguably the most talented singer of all the grunge bands.
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"voice" but Lane Staley was one of the reasons I couldn't get into Alice in Chains. I just didn't like the combo of his voice and the music.
No way man, Staley was arguably the most talented singer of all the grunge bands.
I put him and Cornell 1 & 2. It's cliché but you could feel Lane's singing. Him and Jerry harmonizing was special.
The link I've added is a real treat, isolated vocals of top grunge bands. Scott Weiland was also amazing.
Kurt Cobain VS Chris Cornell VS Eddie Vedder VS Layne Staley VS Scott Weiland - ( New Window )
Guns n Roses
I'm going to throw you the beating of your life...
Motley Crue was their generation's KiSS .... and both bands were contrived cartoons.
Motley Crue was their generation's KiSS .... and both bands were contrived cartoons.
I don't disagree. There are a few songs I like, but for the most part I'm not a Crue fan. And I can't stand Vince Neil.