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NFT: Ernest Hemingway PBS Series

Big Al : 4/9/2021 12:59 pm
The thread we had seems to have been deleted?

He was a nasty bastard. After finishing watching, I realized that unlike many of his contemporaries, Steinbeck who I like far more than Hemingway was never mentioned. He was upcoming in Hemingway’s later years. I googled it and found they met once. As to be expected, things did not go well. Link might be of interest to those who watched the series.
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Watched it.  
TC : 4/9/2021 1:17 pm : link
Never could warm up to his writing, and also found Fitzgerald over praised. Didn't care for Hemingway's chest thumping, but didn't realize he was such a psycho dick. (My apologies in advance to any psycho dicks.)
RE: Watched it.  
Big Al : 4/9/2021 1:25 pm : link
In comment 15214823 TC said:
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Never could warm up to his writing, and also found Fitzgerald over praised. Didn't care for Hemingway's chest thumping, but didn't realize he was such a psycho dick. (My apologies in advance to any psycho dicks.)
i was not that big of a fan of Fitzgerald either but you have to admit that guy could write. The last page of The Great Gatsby is some of the best writing I have ever read. Didn’t warm up to Tender is the Night and his crazy wife.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/9/2021 1:27 pm : link
Gatsby believed in the green light, the orgastic future that year by year recedes before us. It eluded us then, but that’s no matter — tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms farther.... And one fine morning —
So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.

Mic drop.
one of my fav authors  
Dave : 4/9/2021 1:32 pm : link
strange life, but I don't think the burns doc did a good job, it seemed to only focus on the negative parts of his life
I deleted it Al ....  
short lease : 4/9/2021 2:09 pm : link

Sorry about that. I just thought people were done with it.

Yeah - I never realized what a petty competitive dick he could be. That could have been the alcohol talking though? And, for sure he was suffering from different forms of mental illness. Alcohol + psychosis usually doesn't end well.

I am not making excuses for him but, I know some people who are the nicest people when sober. Then they drink and they become "Mr. Hyde".


Dave - I was also a little disappointed with the final product. It wasn't horrible but, it didn't live up to what I thought it would be. That could have been part of the problem. I was waiting for that documentary for about a month. Maybe I expected to much?
RE: I deleted it Al ....  
Big Al : 4/9/2021 2:37 pm : link
In comment 15214887 short lease said:
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Sorry about that. I just thought people were done with it.

Yeah - I never realized what a petty competitive dick he could be. That could have been the alcohol talking though? And, for sure he was suffering from different forms of mental illness. Alcohol + psychosis usually doesn't end well.

I am not making excuses for him but, I know some people who are the nicest people when sober. Then they drink and they become "Mr. Hyde".


Dave - I was also a little disappointed with the final product. It wasn't horrible but, it didn't live up to what I thought it would be. That could have been part of the problem. I was waiting for that documentary for about a month. Maybe I expected to much?
This guy had more serious concussions through his life (in a variety of ways) than most football players. That did not help,
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Named Later : 4/9/2021 3:24 pm : link
His later years did not end well. But I'll give him a pass because of the concussions. He had three major head traumas that we know about, maybe some other bumps that went undiagnosed.

His writing, when it was good, redefined the art form. Towards the end, he had trouble stringing 4 good sentences together.

One line from Burns' Film sticks with me. He writes to his first wife Hadley, about For Whom the Bell Tolls -- "It's Selling like Frozen Daiquiris in Hell".

What I'd do for a nice cool Papa Doble right about now...
RE: RE: I deleted it Al ....  
short lease : 4/10/2021 12:57 am : link
In comment 15214941 Big Al said:
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In comment 15214887 short lease said:


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Sorry about that. I just thought people were done with it.

Yeah - I never realized what a petty competitive dick he could be. That could have been the alcohol talking though? And, for sure he was suffering from different forms of mental illness. Alcohol + psychosis usually doesn't end well.

I am not making excuses for him but, I know some people who are the nicest people when sober. Then they drink and they become "Mr. Hyde".


Dave - I was also a little disappointed with the final product. It wasn't horrible but, it didn't live up to what I thought it would be. That could have been part of the problem. I was waiting for that documentary for about a month. Maybe I expected to much?

This guy had more serious concussions through his life (in a variety of ways) than most football players. That did not help,


+1
Ken Burns if the Hemmingway piece we are talking about is his,  
plato : 4/10/2021 1:53 pm : link
than I am deleting my recorded copy. Burns is an over prideful, unabashed narcissist. His work since the "Civil War" (also questionable) has gone downhill. So, so much for my watching "Hemingway", I'll Just reread some good books about Pomplona and the bulls. By the way I ran with the bulls there in July 1961 and saw some great matadors.
RE: Ken Burns if the Hemmingway piece we are talking about is his,  
short lease : 4/12/2021 12:47 am : link
In comment 15215771 plato said:
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than I am deleting my recorded copy. Burns is an over prideful, unabashed narcissist. His work since the "Civil War" (also questionable) has gone downhill. So, so much for my watching "Hemingway", I'll Just reread some good books about Pomplona and the bulls. By the way I ran with the bulls there in July 1961 and saw some great matadors.


Plato - it was not a terrible documentary. It just showed a side of Hemingway that I never new existed. I have seen other Docs on him and they focused more on his adventures which I enjoyed. It might be worth checking out - I am glad I did.
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